This topic will be a home for all the recent news about Bill Gates, what his agenda is and what he wants to do, after he announced that he will
force vaccinate the whole world population...
Also in his recent TED talk he said openly that his vaccinations will reduce world population by 10 to 15 %...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaF-fq2Zn7I&t=280s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaF-fq2Zn7I&t=280sHear)
Hear it at Minute: 4:40:Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, healthcare, reproductive health services,
We could lower that by perhaps 10% or 15%." 4:40 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaF-fq2Zn7I&t=280s)
So he wants to "murder" practically a few million people with his vaccinations...
I will post here all the evidences about this.
I also said in this TED talk:
Wanted: Energy miracles...
https://youtu.be/JaF-fq2Zn7I?t=429
But why didn´t he never supported Free Energy Research or donated money to our community ??
Please join and add your views about it.
Many thanks !
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/how-bill-gates-controls-global-messaging-and-censorship/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=da9cc9ad-15a6-4841-b12f-6e2d310fe7ce
https://www.newsbreak.com/news/0OiY3WLX/robert-f-kennedy-jr-bill-gates-obsession-with-vaccines-fueled-by-messianic-conviction-to-save-the-world-with-technology-god-like-willingness-to-experiment-with-lives-of-lesser-humans
https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-04-29-bill-gates-paralyzed-children-polio-vaccines-coronavirus.html
Watch this video !
https://bittube.video/videos/watch/d237b619-fe87-4f8d-9dcb-ea9313bacab3
Video from JFKennedy Junior about Bill Gates. German Lang. With English Subtitles
https://www.wakingtimes.com/2020/04/29/bill-gates-phase-2-is-a-bio-terror-attack/
https://www.wakingtimes.com/2020/04/09/robert-f-kennedy-jr-responds-to-bill-gates-statements-on-a-mandatory-coronavirus-vaccine/
https://youtu.be/U_Gi6cf-jiI?t=25
He said at 0:25"Reducing the population growth..."
So he wants to kill newborn babies...
Are virusses just a fake ??
https://avoidthemark.com/feat_videos/corona-debunked-by-biochemisty/?fbclid=IwAR3zsYQdzQ3yqwoKd-fkKyJCfAcOStZPaGYWEz10hYWrt-J97mVX1sW1cxc
https://www.wakingtimes.com/2020/04/29/bill-gates-phase-2-is-a-bio-terror-attack/
Will Trump also support forced vaccination ??
https://bittube.video/videos/watch/18bb8483-6e05-4304-9fad-4fdc44f25100
So sad: 4 month old baby after menigitis vaccination poisoned by mercury salts...
https://bittube.video/videos/watch/cf5dfa8c-debe-44fb-a698-a51a4539de37
One should really throw these doctors into jail, that vaccinated this child ! And Bill Gates too, as he has caused so many victims with his
vaccines all over the world...
Vaxxed -1 German version:
https://bittube.video/videos/watch/2603c07a-2121-46b4-a14b-4668f405a0c5
Vaxxed - 2 German version:
https://bittube.video/videos/watch/22e66257-10df-44c4-81f2-fe6eabd11a2a
https://www.web24.news/u/2020/05/world-medical-president-for-mandatory-vaccination-to-protect-against-coronavirus.html
Montgomery is probably also paid by Bill Gates as were the WHO, Robert Koch Institute , Mr. Drosten, the German Newspaper Der Spiegel and many more...
https://bittube.video/videos/watch/276de95c-2767-44c1-8ff5-855d4f82bee3
Queensland politician fakes vaccination !!
2000 percent ROI for Bill Gates from his vaccines ! Hillarius !
https://bittube.video/videos/watch/336cc90c-53d6-4dd7-97df-90b6c4afdaa2
Bill-Gates-on-forcefull-vaccination-of-little-kids
It seems this scumbag has the fetish to "injecting them in little kids arms" and "shoot them right into their venes..."Disgusting Guy !
https://bittube.video/videos/watch/9f366006-ce1f-4c9a-85ff-cba2c10e2199 (https://bittube.video/videos/watch/9f366006-ce1f-4c9a-85ff-cba2c10e2199)
Quote from: hartiberlin on May 20, 2020, 02:53:04 PM
Hear it at Minute: 4:40:Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, healthcare, reproductive health services,
We could lower that by perhaps 10% or 15%." 4:40 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaF-fq2Zn7I&t=280s)
So he wants to "murder" practically a few million people with his vaccinations...
If he was planning to kill well over 630million people, do you think he would be talking about it at an open forum?
For crying out aloud, Stefan - listen to the video. In that sentance, he speaks of healthcare issues - contraception etc. The percentage of unplanned pregnancies is what he is talking about.
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Quote from: Paul-R on May 20, 2020, 05:44:59 PM
If he was planning to kill well over 630million people, do you think he would be talking about it at an open forum?
For crying out aloud, Stefan - listen to the video. In that sentence, he speaks of healthcare issues - contraception etc. The percentage of unplanned pregnancies is what he is talking about.
A lot of people in a lot of countries are said to have financed the Lab that is at the centre of the Corona Covid 19 out break.
Why don't you find out who they all were?
S if some crazed mad psycho persuades some bent politician to create a law to injects myself with an obnoxious substance legally I should be entitled to use deadly force To stop them.
But in saying that, some equally evil mad scientist has found a way of doing away with the syringe !
Quote from: Paul_R
For crying out aloud, Stefan - listen to the video. In that sentance, he speaks of healthcare issues -
contraception etc. The percentage of unplanned pregnancies is what he is talking about.
Of course, he isn't stupid. Obsessed or possessed perhaps but like all bloviators, he must create
the impression of being a do-gooder. The vaccines that he's managed to have utilized in Africa
and certain Asian countries have proven to be deadly. What he says in public sounds like he
may be a concerned philanthropist but his vaccines speak louder.
There are many strings to this bow I'm afraid - This young lady gives a pretty fair indication quite quickly.
This is -long planned ,well rehearsed,and needs careful study
https://youtu.be/DMm2XkbWfKg (https://youtu.be/DMm2XkbWfKg)
Stefan, So this new Bit tube video format cannot be removed By Google ...
I see here Gene therapy is truly quite different mindset towards immunity or a cure..[altering DNA ?]
one of your posted Vids again
https://bittube.video/videos/watch/d237b619-fe87-4f8d-9dcb-ea9313bacab3 (https://bittube.video/videos/watch/d237b619-fe87-4f8d-9dcb-ea9313bacab3)
and yes you would think the FE community would have more "benevolence" from the Gates foundation.
I had written to you of a Tesla Tech that I was excited the open source community might "Now"acquire [was originally toldthe inventor wanted to Open source [I always tell persons I speak with my agenda first [open source]
The man who knew the inventor did not want me contacting the inventor as "they" [he and his group] are Money people and were going to make a presentation to the Gates foundation...[ he kept the inventors info private from me]
he called me last week all shocked...they were rejected by the foundation...the tech is said to be remarkable...
since I was told the inventors dream was to open source .. I will be pursuing this for certain... if this is true [a real FE technology] than Gates must have other agendas ...
or something much better...[where is it ??]
hopefully I can get this inventors name and contact ..people who want to change the world for the better and have discovered technology to do this and want to share their lifes work...should be cherished and supported by the Global open source FE community
every second counts...and open source is the only way there will ever be an FE device for the world..
I'll be calling that investor guy back today...been a ruff week here.
This is such a disgusting hoax Its difficult to decide where to start to enlighten readers here.
Most I guess are researchers engineers scientists and not used to predictive mapping or the foundations of maths designed to predict future events.
I regard this as a useful starting point because it forms the basis of, If a vaccine might be appropriate at all – forced or otherwise .
The current situation is extraordinary in the History of the the world , Global shutdown is absolutely Novel unlike Basic epidemiology The patterns of which are well known and have been studied for hundreds of years .
As an example of this here is a live webcam broadcasting from central Stockholm .
http://www.webbkameror.se/webbkameror/stureplan/index.php (http://www.webbkameror.se/webbkameror/stureplan/index.php)
There is nor ever has been any lock down in Stockholm not a Mask, in sight , no 'social spacing' you'll see all the cafes ,shops and pubs open , as they always have been , You might be very surprised to see there are no coffins piled up in the streets ! - No carts going up and down with a town crier 'shouting bring out your dead ' however can this possibly be ? Do They have a different world wide disease ? I suggest that would be errant nonsense!
I don't suggest there is no virus, I don't suggest it doesn't need caution and common sense viruses always have needed care , and I guess always will ! Has the world been sold an absolute Pup by Bill and Melinda 'Hells gates' ?
Sweden's minister of health Johan Carlson Informs that it is rather we in lock down awaiting a Hells gates vaccine that are 'The lab rats' Sweden is running to mapping that has been tried and tested for centuries.
Is that true ? It has been pointed out that that surrounding Nordic countries (like Norway and Denmark) which have applied partial lock downs have better death rates – It sounds reasonable but is it? Lets cast our eye's over some figures shall we ? The same figures used by our trusted health services.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries)
I suggest here it is the ratio of deaths / per million of population that's of interest . Notice for interest that Sweden with no lock down or social distancing and/or absolute destruction of social amenities schools pubs clubs and café's is doing far better than my own country the UK (for example)
Added to that as more people have been exposed to, caught ,over come the virus in Sweden than other countries that death ratio can only Improve in Sweden when compared to her neighbours
In other words Sweden already has a much higher ' herd immunity'
I guess what we really need to understand is the basis of the lock down mathematics. Just how the so called health advisors have ' cooked up this Grime fairy tale. More importantly how they have managed to get most of the world to believe this fabric of destructive nonsense.
Predictive maths isn't usually the domain of OU researchers but I'm sure we can bend our usual maths base with a little caution so we see –
a/ The base of how its supposed to be done .
b/ how its been corrupted and used to hold the whole world to ransom.
A epidemiological virus curve is initially based on R naught which basically reflects how contagious each of us might be who has the disease, and how many others we will infect .
In short whilst we infect more than one other person the disease spreads . When the 'herd' has enough immunity each infects 'less than one' the disease declines and dies out. Here is a typical example of the patter used to scare us
https://youtu.be/wZabMDS0CeA (https://youtu.be/wZabMDS0CeA)
you notice the guys uses the term 'exponential' and so it might be for some part of the curve. However our trusted 'advisors sent that exponential to the moon.
However it must and does curl over every virus must! The medical regime has taken the oppotunity to ignor any real life figures !
In short the pox goes up – spends some time spreading amongst the population – then comes down . It is then pretty much guaranteed that over time Sweden's neighbours will reflect the same figures. just slower getting there.
The Idea as I'm sure you have heard time and time again was to – 'flatten the curve' ergo not alter the area of it! (which reflects the number of infected) Have we been sold the pup ? – help the health services survive is a fine idea if it can't cope! . ( not don't get infected – that's pretty much inevitable eventually)
So the next step is a mathematical graph that reflects the up and down and where variables might be introduced,and accurate future predictions made. A 'Bell curve' is a very good example. Even though the virus spread isn't a perfect 'bell' the cap can be made to fit. So I suggest a little time reflecting on the curve before this post continues.
For those who haven't messed with predictive bell curves the basics can be used for many things from predicting dough weight in a bakery machine to testing the reliability of satellites gambling odds or the reliability of a humble transistor. and it is the basis of epidemiological plotting.
Now I want to keep this really simple and so I introduce you a example study of a couple of washing machine types – tested to destruction
https://www.thesimpledollar.com/financial-wellness/the-reliability-bell-curve-what-does-more-reliability-actually-mean/ (https://www.thesimpledollar.com/financial-wellness/the-reliability-bell-curve-what-does-more-reliability-actually-mean/)
There are variables – mean distributions and so on but regardless it has this in common with a virus it will rise as the population becomes infected – It will then fall If it did not humanity would long ago have ceased to exist.
The area of that curve in the case of a virus reflects the number of people infected at any moment in time.
We in the west were it seems provided with pretty good figures from China and its clear that as the disease spreads the information and data improves . It might seem obvious as you look at this simple graph but its really in the case of a virus that rapid change of direction that's most important .
The majority of the herd have become infected.
The infected number of folks are in decline. The disease will do what viruses have done for ever and ever AMEN – become insignificant – die out if you like. Just like the washing machines .
So it may not be a perfect Bell curve however as sure as god made little apples it will rise and fall in some semblance of a bell curve . There might be a few bumps and spikes on the way but the general course is inevitable – I hope you can can see that ?
There are another group of mathematicians I have little to do with – financiers , futures assets and the stock market .
They are very interested in that change of direction – they sell and buy in millions on the base of that turning point . They don't need to know the area of only that there is a change and – 'the curve has curled over' In the case of a virus – Its in decline! Beaten ! Although it will continue infecting but at ever lower and lower rates.
Let me introduce you to the murky world of finance planners this Guy is called Andrew Mather . I have I confess cut his bit of audio for brevity – I'm sure he won't mind I just want to introduce his basic back ground before presenting his video
http://dnp.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/a/Andrew Mather1.wav (http://dnp.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/a/Andrew%20Mather1.wav)
OK for the moment please keep in mind it is that rate of change one of these analysts is seeking and so should any of so for experts should be seeking exactly the same thing
https://youtu.be/OuqPRK58R4A (https://youtu.be/OuqPRK58R4A)
These so called experts have tried very hard to sell this virus as 'an exponential' but I'm sure you know very well an exponential goes on ad infinitum .
Its a mathematical progression – one thing we know for certain a virus isn't an exponential – if it were humanity would be long ago extinct.
Whilst it may broadly follow the line of an exponential – it can't be . It also might just as well be said to follow the trajectory of a circle (briefly)
The virus and forced injections ? Lets say your kids what to go to school ? Or you might wish to fly somewhere – vaccine then required.
Kind regards Doh
Wow, I am amazed, 14 love letters from Stefan to Bill Gates in this thread.
Stefan (hartiberlin) must really like the Bill. And the Gates will wipe out the City of Berlin really soon now. Am I glad I live elsewhere. Vienna is protected by Putin and Bill Gates will therefore not be able to vaccinate people in Vienna. We also will get Russian G5-towers in Vienna which will not have the Bill Gates software installed.
Greetings, Conrad
Bill Gates is a hero only because so many people want a hero.
But really all men are just men, including Bill Gates.
Hero worship is first chakra / territorial / prestige based behavior.
When men cease to value that which is rare more than they value that which is common, great armys
will be laid to rest. - Lao Tzu
Gates is a Eugenicist. His father was director of the World Eugenics Society. Pure evil. While this petition already has enough signatures to get a response from the Whitehouse I think the more signatures it gets the better. Petition at the Whitehouse to investigate Bill Gates for medical malpractice and crimes against humanity:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/we-call-investigations-bill-melinda-gates-foundation-medical-malpractice-crimes-against-humanity
Of course Bill Gates is the worst kind of person because...
1) He is a self made tech billionaire among the richest in the world.
2) He is well educated, very intelligent and very well spoken.
3) He is down to Earth and common sense basing his decisions on scientific facts not conspiracy theories.
So of course all the populists hate him because Bill Gates represents everything they will never be. He represents the future of mankind based on science and facts while the populists want to drag us back into the dark ages ruled by banana republic dictators like putin and donny trump. My theory is simple, do your worst and revel in the lying, corruption and false beliefs today but know all of it will soon end and all this nonsense will be undone. I think it's comical, because soon our children are going change everything and there is nothing anyone can do about it because they will be in an old folks home or six feet under.
It's also comical that Gates is talking about universal education and health care for all mankind meanwhile donny trump is slashing education and telling people to inject themselves with household cleaners, lmao. What a joke.
Regards
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_Human_Duties_and_Responsibilities (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_Human_Duties_and_Responsibilities)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Development_Goals (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Development_Goals)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Millennium_Declaration (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Millennium_Declaration)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_planning (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_planning)
I am not here as Mister William Gates his "advocatus angeliis",but there are some points to explain,independent a-/or theistic :
Old Testament,"The Flood" : not an eugenical or Triage act by the ancient Godness ?!
More saekular/profan : https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FWeltbev%25C3%25B6lkerungskonferenz (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FWeltbev%25C3%25B6lkerungskonferenz) included NGO´s
extraction : Reproductive Health and Reproductive Rights
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_and_reproductive_health_and_rights (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_and_reproductive_health_and_rights)
extraction : Change in values
From 8 billions actual to 1,5 billions as first future target : more than less 15-10% from actual planetary inhabitant density and numbers ! > - 75% !
Sincerely
OCWL
Let me be radical : Mr. Gates dies in the next time,but the millenial Goals are independent from him,a country,an organisation or a computer model(l) !
"Menschenproduktionsfarm" : https://www.zeit.de/2014/07/szenario-schrumpfende-weltbevoelkerung/seite-3 (https://www.zeit.de/2014/07/szenario-schrumpfende-weltbevoelkerung/seite-3)
Negative exponential growth works the same way, just the other way around: an initially gradual decline in population turns into a self-reinforcing shrinking process. Where few children are born, only a few potential parents grow up. These in turn have just as few children as their parents, and so the decline continues.
The descendants would have to have three or four children to stop this process.
But that is highly unlikely in developed countries. At the end of the 1960s, women had five children on a global average. Today there are only 2.5. Since then, the growth rate of mankind has almost halved from 2.1 to below 1.2 percent. This does not automatically mean an end to population growth: on the one hand, people are getting older, so they remain part of the world population for longer. On the other hand, today's "low" growth assumes a base of 7.2 billion people and thus more than twice as many individuals as in the 1960s. The large steamer world population, which was traveling at full speed for a long time, has a very, very long braking distance. It will take a few more decades before it comes to a standstill. But it is certain that he will do it.
The best known estimates of the future number of people come from the United Nations Population Department. They usually contain three variants to record development options. In the latest estimates, the UN's mid-range version assumes that around 9.6 billion people will share the globe in 2050 - 2.4 billion more than in 2014. At some point in the second half of the 21st century, population growth is likely to end . Many of the people on earth who are living today can therefore see population growth reaching its peak.
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Alternatively, the UN researchers have calculated a high and a low scenario: The high variant assumes that after 2100 the number of children in all countries will settle at a value of 2.35 per woman (today's value of Argentina) low variant assumes 1.85 (the value of Denmark). In the first case, 2,300 around 36 billion people live on Earth - five times as many as today. In the second case, the global population shrinks to 2.3 billion by 2300 - less than a third of today's value. After that, mankind would halve again until 2550, falling to the level of 1850.
a. PHYSICAL ENTROPHIE https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropie#Entropie_als_%E2%80%9EMa%C3%9F_der_Unordnung%E2%80%9C (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropie#Entropie_als_%E2%80%9EMa%C3%9F_der_Unordnung%E2%80%9C)
b. NUMERICAL HUMAN NUMBER ENTROPHY by not /"conditionized fertility right"
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FInwohner (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FInwohner)
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPolitischer_Ehekonsens (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPolitischer_Ehekonsens)
+- Balance of ideal number : 300 millions human habitants on earth
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAllgemeines_Gleichgewichtsmodell (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAllgemeines_Gleichgewichtsmodell)
Who Controls the Gates Family?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX9O3Yi-Nn0
Paul-R
QuoteIf he was planning to kill well over 630million people, do you think he would be talking about it at an open forum?
For crying out aloud, Stefan - listen to the video. In that sentance, he speaks of healthcare issues - contraception etc. The percentage of unplanned pregnancies is what he is talking about.
That's exactly what I heard as well and a person has to wonder how someone can jump from population reduction through birth control to murder through vaccinations. Bill gates was clearly referring to increasing access to birth control so women have a choice which generally leads to less children and a decreasing population.
In my opinion this is more of the same old anti-science/war of facts rhetoric from the populists. It really irritates a lot of people that Bill Gates is the second wealthiest man on the planet, educated, intelligent and a very well spoken person. Versus the populist hero, the groper and chief, three time draft dodger and narcissistic abusive compulsive liar donny trump. It triggers them to no end that Bill Gates makes more on the interest from his wealth in a year than donny trump is worth because Bill is a genius and donny is a con man who got lucky.
I respect Bill Gates because of what he has accomplished and because he calls it as he see's it based on the facts and science. While donny trump tries to blow imaginary sunshine up everyone's arse to serve his own personal interests.
The unavoidable truth is that 50 years from now Bill Gates will be remembered as the guy who revolutionized the computer industry right next to Steve Jobs. However donny trump is going to be remembered as the compulsive lying clown gaslighting everyone on twitter, who couldn't keep his mouth shut about anything and basically turned the U.S. economy and values into a dumpster fire. Anyway you look at it it's like putting lipstick on a pig.
Regards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2Mdf_1LuZI
less than 1 min. Clearly states we must reduce population, and first on the list is better vaccines.
Mags
Quote from: Magluvin on May 21, 2020, 11:37:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2Mdf_1LuZI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2Mdf_1LuZI)
less than 1 min. Clearly states we must reduce population, and first on the list is better vaccines.
Mags
... and then he said "health care and reproductive health services". What do you think he meant by that?
Why did you leave that out of your message above?
Quote from: Magluvin on May 21, 2020, 11:37:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2Mdf_1LuZI
less than 1 min. Clearly states we must reduce population, and first on the list is better vaccines.
Mags
What are you saying a vaccine for killing selectivly?
Quote from: Paul-R on May 22, 2020, 06:14:34 PM
... and then he said "health care and reproductive health services". What do you think he meant by that?
Why did you leave that out of your message above?
Lol, well those are just as bad... "health care and reproductive health services" Push abortion and contraceptives...Infirtility vaccines... All of it is headlined by "health care and reproductive health services". Any time Planned Parenthood talks about themselves it is always stressed that is what they are about. Most if any PP service centers dont even have a mammogram machine to check for breast cancer of which is near the top of the list when women consider womens healthcare. PP wants and pushes abortions. I believe there is some legislation to first let the patient see a sonogram of the baby before hand so the if they see that tiny, moving, living being inside their body, that then they may have a change of heart and not just aborting for immature conveniences. Otherwise PP tells them that at 3rd trimester, 12weeks, the fetus cant feel anything so its not viable. lol. Heartless devils. Watch the movie 'Unplanned' True story. Then you will get the drift.
There is plenty and more to back up everything in the movie including winning her fight against PP. Abby Johnson
Anyway, ole Billybob wants what he wants. Whichever fits the need for his goals. ;) He has no right to decide what you nor I 'have' to do with our bodies, according to billybob. I think it was 700,000 he admits will be harmed if everyone took the mandatory vaccine. And he knows this how? It just goes on and on, if you do diligent research, just like anything else. Are you willing to be one of the 700,000? Or your child or any other loved one, or anybody, because Billybob says this is what we need to do??? billybob needs to be shunted. Then get him a daily ration of french fried putaters with musterd on em. Mmmhh hmmm.
Mags
Mags
Mags
Quote from: Raycathode on May 22, 2020, 07:08:33 PM
What are you saying a vaccine for killing selectivly?
Vaccine to de-fertilize. He has no right to impress that on anyone let alone everyone. Vaccine to reduce longevity of life. Whatever it is, he is counting on 700,000 to be shaved off the top. let alone, if he was involved with the wuhan lab in order to scare tactic up everyone to 'want' a vaccine, he shaved of over a mil already. And counting. Throughout the past 10 years this agenda has been coming to a head. And here we are.
Mags
Mags,
Gates will get his Karma soon enough...
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/controlled-demolition-all-over-again
Best wishes, stay safe and well,
Chris
Its a short vid, but the second half gets to it. Birth rates around the world are down.
Back when the HPV thing was big, there were girls that were severely damaged. Look it up. Being I was looking at these things back then, an article came out that teen birth rates were down 3 years straight, in ALL 50 states. Seems abnormal, no?
Now, in this vid, they are trying to find a relationship with the low birthrate numbers. Im under the suspicion that it is not just what they are trying to say in the vid that is a major factor in this great malfunction...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBvoagwT3k4
Mags
Quote from: onepower on May 21, 2020, 04:49:18 PM
Of course Bill Gates is the worst kind of person because...
1) He is a self made tech billionaire among the richest in the world.
2) He is well educated, very intelligent and very well spoken.
3) He is down to Earth and common sense basing his decisions on scientific facts not conspiracy theories.
So of course all the populists hate him because Bill Gates represents everything they will never be. He represents the future of mankind based on science and facts while the populists want to drag us back into the dark ages ruled by banana republic dictators like putin and donny trump. My theory is simple, do your worst and revel in the lying, corruption and false beliefs today but know all of it will soon end and all this nonsense will be undone. I think it's comical, because soon our children are going change everything and there is nothing anyone can do about it because they will be in an old folks home or six feet under.
It's also comical that Gates is talking about universal education and health care for all mankind meanwhile donny trump is slashing education and telling people to inject themselves with household cleaners, lmao. What a joke.
Regards
I suppose you think pedophile Jeffrey Epstein is also a good person? I've seen pictures of Bill Gates standing next to Epstein and they have apparently worked on some projects together involving children.
The thread is arrowed at Hells Gates – The subject is far far deeper than that , but its a start.
If it hasn't registered yet going on around you is the worst calamity in the history of humanity.
Its made even worse because its rehearsed and practised.
I am quite surprised Hells Gates has been chosen as a thread starter, and here's why - I'm sure the leader of this forum is hansom, affluent ,friendly and rich But rich compared to Hells Gates?
Perhaps (I don't know) however I doubt my little piggy bank would measure up.
Lets say I mentioned something hells Gates didn't like on this forum like – I've heard hells Gates has got an ingrowing toenail (for instance)
So hells gates stops one of those lawyers in the USA chasing ambulances about and throws a few coppers at him with the instruction – go sue . Not sure who they would sue – good luck with doh-boy btw the square root of F'all isn't much I imagine.
Still it could be the end of a forum! Anyway Its not all about hells Gates he is I suggest simply a cog attached to a huge wheel .
I wonder might I invite you to watch a young lady expand the spokes of that wheel w.r.t hells Gates ? It is a mistaken avenue as I have explained however its the threads topic! (it's much deeper and darker than hells gates)
Amazing Polly connects a few dots for you I hope
https://www.bitchute.com/video/1Z5VYqJqrtI/
My kindest regards Duncan
Quote from: e2matrix on May 23, 2020, 01:50:23 PM
I suppose you think pedophile Jeffrey Epstein is also a good person? I've seen pictures of Bill Gates standing next to Epstein and they have apparently worked on some projects together involving children.
here's James on the Epstein/ hells gates subject for your interest https://www.corbettreport.com/ (https://www.corbettreport.com/)
I don't think he's really a jolly good egg do you?
So being for the most part researchers into alternate energy I doubt many of us venture to much into the world of epidemiology or finance mapping . Why then do I mention them ?
Its because for hundreds of years they have been used to reliably plot and predict the development of viruses in communities.
What is being done at the moment is absolutely unheard of and I suggest in human . Humans don't live like this! They never have . Here for you to contemplate is a busy street on live webcam in the centre of Stockholm . You will see no masks. No lock down there never has been , depending on the time of day you'll see the cafe fill up and folks moving about with no so called 'social distancing'
have a good look and see if you notice any piles of coffins in the street.
http://www.webbkameror.se/webbkameror/stureplan/index.php (http://www.webbkameror.se/webbkameror/stureplan/index.php)
your government might be inclined to tell you Sweden has a much higher and intolerable death rate because she imposed no 'lock down' that seems to be a lie also at least as far as the UK is concerned
I guess these figures are more cooked than fried chicken anyway but here's a world ticker for your inspection
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries)
If deaths by ratio are to be the yard stick Sweden is doing considerably better than my own country (The UK)
It is also I suggest much further along the path of gaining what the epidemiological guys refer to as 'herd immunity' .
I hear some conjecture that there is no virus at all – I really don't know if there is or isn't either way It seems pretty obvious that compared to Sweden we are treating it the wrong way.
I wonder isn't it becoming very quickly apparent to you that this is nothing to do with a virus (be it there or not) at all ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPzfY34JyD4
Mags
Thats Awful Mags - so the WHO is basically Bill hells gates , He now being the biggest contributer . The plan is forced vaccinations with no safety net or legal remedy, and certainly no proper testing - sue the DOJ - good luck with that.
This whole festering heap needs sweeping up - world wide
Kind regards Doh
So is this -
https://unnwo.org/ (https://unnwo.org/) Be scared folks very scared ! all these things are founded in and on evil reflect on this now aged docu by Alex Jones -- how much is being attempted in one move. even though this is from some time ago I'm sure you'll see plenty of the same players -- ask yourself do I want this future for my Kids? organised by a group that seems to consist of Kiddie fiddlers amyway .This is playing out exactly as Alex predicted IMHO a new world order ? utopia ?
https://youtu.be/x-CrNlilZho (https://youtu.be/x-CrNlilZho)
Kind regards Doh
This needs fighting at every turn -- concider signing this please https://mailchi.mp/lifesite/update-petition-500k-5-22-20?e=7b87a3eeca (https://mailchi.mp/lifesite/update-petition-500k-5-22-20?e=7b87a3eeca)
Kind regards Duncan
Strange that this conspiracy only effects elderly white billionaire democrats, lmao.
Not the republicans and there Nazi like laws against clean and renewable energy, not donny trump the abusive compulsive liar and want to be dictator or those championing overpopulation and fossil fuels. Strange don't you think?.
What a joke...
AC/onepower,
Can you name even one law against renewable fuel? And when has President Trump said he favored overpopulation? You seem to favor those that believe in murder of the elderly and infants. And you still haven't answered the question about what good guidelines the U.S. didn't follow that caused the infection rate in the U.S. according to YOU to be higher than Canada's. You love to spout off a bunch of nonsense with nothing to back it up. You certainly seem to believe all of the lies put out by the lying main stream media. Maybe you should try following your own advice you have posted in your signature at OUR. The one that says to be careful following the masses because sometime the M is silent.
And I don't try to hide behind some user name and then change it to hide who I am.
Carroll
Exclusive: Coronavirus outbreak may have started in September, say British scientists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZWgdFdSb5Q
Mags
Copper And The Coronavirus - Making An Anti-Viral Facemask
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1DK_1DthyM
Mags
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fmediathek%2Faudio%2FFrauen-U50-Weg-mit-der-alten-Schachtel-article21803768.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fmediathek%2Faudio%2FFrauen-U50-Weg-mit-der-alten-Schachtel-article21803768.html)
There are some women over 50,I mean and partially think so,whose would applaude for "forever young"-vaccination !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1TcDHrkQYg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1TcDHrkQYg) younger,provoking !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkIDKVRw8zc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkIDKVRw8zc) 2020 older,wiser ?
Men would also appreciate to become vaccinated,I do not think so,I know it !
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungbrunnen#/media/Datei:Lucas_Cranach_-_Der_Jungbrunnen_(Gem%C3%A4ldegalerie_Berlin).jpg (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungbrunnen#/media/Datei:Lucas_Cranach_-_Der_Jungbrunnen_(Gem%C3%A4ldegalerie_Berlin).jpg)
some do not find it outside,but inside ! ;)
Population-limitation ? OMG,no !
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.srf.ch%2Fkultur%2Fgesellschaft-religion%2Fzwangsverheiratung-ein-aktuelles-thema-nicht-nur-im-kino (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.srf.ch%2Fkultur%2Fgesellschaft-religion%2Fzwangsverheiratung-ein-aktuelles-thema-nicht-nur-im-kino)
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.unicef.de%2Finformieren%2Faktuelles%2Fblog%2Fkinderehen-weltweit-fragen-und-antworten%2F199066 (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.unicef.de%2Finformieren%2Faktuelles%2Fblog%2Fkinderehen-weltweit-fragen-und-antworten%2F199066)
"3.rd World " problem and elsewhere : https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/heute/kinderehen-in-den-usa-100.html (https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/heute/kinderehen-in-den-usa-100.html)
also E.U. : https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FKinderheirat (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FKinderheirat)
Baby--tourism world-wide et cetera .....
Brave World,in Future with more transparency !
:o https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.welt.de%2Fpolitik%2Farticle1904570%2FAchtjaehriges-Maedchen-reicht-seine-Scheidung-ein.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.welt.de%2Fpolitik%2Farticle1904570%2FAchtjaehriges-Maedchen-reicht-seine-Scheidung-ein.html) ;D
Den alten Sack loswerden,zusaetzlich noch hohe Ali-Mentierung ! Asymetrical curriculum vitae with 8 years ! ;)
319 Square Miles
It will take you approximately 39 seconds to read this. Please read and pass it on.
Last month the newly convened, Democratic-controlled House of Representatives introduced a bill to eliminate the electoral college. It seems that, since they couldn't win the last presidential election under the rules that have existed for almost 250 years, they want to change the rules. Below is an excellent explanation of why this is a very bad idea
In their infinite wisdom, the United States ' Founders created the Electoral College to ensure the States were fairly represented. Why should one or two densely populated areas speak for the whole of the nation?
The following list of statistics has been making the rounds on the Internet It should finally put an end to the argument as to why the Electoral College makes sense. Do share this. It needs to be widely known and understood.
There are 3,141 counties in the United States .
- Trump won 3,084 of them.
- Clinton won 57.
There are 62 counties in New York State
- Trump won 46 of them.
- Clinton won 16
Clinton won the popular vote by approximately 1.5 million votes.
- In the 5 counties that encompass NYC, (Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan , Richmond & Queens) Clinton received well over 2 million more votes than Trump ( Clinton only won 4 of these counties; Trump won Richmond )
- Therefore these 5 counties alone, more than accounted for Clinton winning the popular vote of the entire country.
These 5 counties comprise 319 square miles.
The United States is comprised of 3,797,000 square miles.
When you have a country that encompasses almost 4 million square miles of territory, it would be ludicrous to even suggest that the vote of those who inhabit a mere 319 square miles should dictate the outcome of a national election.
Large, densely populated Democrat cities (NYC, Chicago , LA , etc.) DO NOT and SHOULD NOT speak for the rest of our country!
And It's been verified and documented that those 319 square miles are where the majority of our nation's problems foment.
Well worth the 39 seconds to read? Now please pass it on please.
The Demorats are determined to destroy this country and all it stands for. And Bill Gates is one of the primary ringleaders.
Speaking The Righteous Truth!!!!!This Doctor Exposed Bill Gates Wicked Agenda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMTNaFluT24
Mags
Quote from: Magluvin on May 26, 2020, 02:01:57 PM
Speaking The Righteous Truth!!!!!This Doctor Exposed Bill Gates Wicked Agenda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMTNaFluT24
Mags
suggest watch https://bittube.tv/post/32589922-ea4a-4082-8718-d855c81bac91 (https://bittube.tv/post/32589922-ea4a-4082-8718-d855c81bac91) I see some right and alas , some wrong Jenner ? I grew up a few miles from his birth place, went to school with relations --- regardless I don't think he had an evil plan . there is nothing wrong with vaccination still there is much wrong I suggest with this proposed Nazi killing horror! kindest regards Duncan
suggest - start here
https://www.bitchute.com/video/aNjeT1G6iGTh/
then move on - be quick its Blitzkrieg well rehearsed and well planned . It very nearly won once - well a few of times actually , but it's still like knot weedl has to be aggesiveley beaten back. Fuchi ? a senile 80 year old horror in the need of arrest and a -- understanding rest home,or treatment - certainly difficult to bring the bastard to account! what the bloody hell is America doing with that fossil anyway ? what the hells the retirement age of civil servants in the USA? Octogenarian senile prick driving the bus? Be scared!Can't really get the bastards here either - keep resigning or being fired , or deny any knowledge
wake up please ( there's a joke and a punch line here , - excuse I'll get to it in due course )
Kindest regards D
New world order ? How nice I seem to recall it was well predicted if not a bit over egged by Alex Jones, Don't you see it unfolding as per plan ?
Here is sneaky peak peak for you at the bright new future promised for our Children and grandchildren by Hells Gates and his Kiddie fiddler pals -super new web site :'(
https://unnwo.org/
(https://unnwo.org/)
Think its a great sounding utopia? Look at the happy smiling faces on the little brown cherubs !
I wonder if you feel inclined to take a harder look ? But first Before we take a look at what hells gates and this paedophile gang of conspiracy and corruption have planned
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/10/08/business/00epgates1/00epgates1-jumbo-v3.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp
(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/10/08/business/00epgates1/00epgates1-jumbo-v3.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp)
First I suggest a very recent view of events but first at look at central Stockholm for with a live webcam simply so you know undeniably – It's all Bollix !! you'll see all the shops ,cafe's and pubs fill up. not a mask in sight and most importantly NO STUPID SPACING , not a coffin in sight -- odd isn't it?
http://www.webbkameror.se/webbkameror/stureplan/index.php (http://www.webbkameror.se/webbkameror/stureplan/index.php)
Anyway I remind this is international filth but I'd like you to here show you another's view of this freak by award winning Canadian documenary maker James Corbett -
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZsOfcTh2nls/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZsOfcTh2nls/)
What I try to show here is the plan and the bits do fit – including 5G .The elite group do have a plan and they are employing it well . It might help if your aware of that plan and where it's aimed.
Here f.y.i is a pretty old docu on this group of elites and there direction and plan for us
https://youtu.be/x-CrNlilZho (https://youtu.be/x-CrNlilZho)
How about we bring that up to date with an Irishman's take on things right now
https://www.bitchute.com/video/9aorvYZW56ml/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/9aorvYZW56ml/)
just before I sign off this post you wanna see a real bell end ? In fact a guy who puts the end on 'bell end' ? He seems to have a lady with him too --- think they might breed?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/xVQGG9ptPC3W/
(https://www.bitchute.com/video/xVQGG9ptPC3W/)
If hells gates allowed them to procreate then perhaps the children could do the Lolita express thing of the future? Its probably fair treatment for a cretin bell end but certainly not for the Children yours or his ! are folks waking up ? I think so !
Kind regards Duncan
"Lolita" ? :-* Kissing she softly,hey man you 're bringing us to DREAMLAND ;) ;D !
Becoming ( a little more) serious :
5G and the use in closed "Faraday cage"-chamber like cars : wonderfull effect for non/elitaery user !
30 years back : electro-smoker/smog 8) !Microwaves ambient and the acceptance from consequences as illness : german Bundeswehr and Radar-waves !Blood-/cancer et cetera .... ! :P :'(
EMW : Elektro-Magnetische Wechselfelder und physiologische Vertraeglichkeit
( positive and negative field ,H.A.A.R.P.,thermotexx-heater : Dr.phy. Helmut Reichelt)
We are all - without exclusing- inside the technological development,younger : fetal up to oldest : before morte !
Each action has his consequeces,as positive and /or negative re-action ! The question when and how ?!
But is the re-acton not also an action which gets re-action ? Snowball to lawine principle
Sincerely
OCWL
p.s.: it should be for all global male humans clear tat related biomaterial/genom and genom-refreshing up to 99% of all male units can be easily and by number elminated,having as alternative seemen-banks and in-vitro technology !And by female boone marrow from the male side synthetical same is produceable !
Designing a New World by reached targets : cave-te ! RU486 for adults !
Covid 19 - why so much worse in New York ex Mayor and Dr Stephen Greer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOl3pVtVOBE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOl3pVtVOBE)
Dr foul cheese and hells gates -- heads need to roll!
Bill Gates in private meeting with CIA - he wants to vaccinate religious people to eliminate their genes for religious beliefs ! WTF?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ETLqIJH3z8&feature=youtu.be
Sounds to me like it would eliminate your ability to 'believe' in most anything spiritual or otherwise - in other words totally dumbed down to be good obedient slaves.
I would respectfully suggest its very important folks become familiar with Just who Hells Gates is and nowhere better right now than award winning documentary maker James Corbett . He along with his production editor have managed a Herculean task of making a four part documentary on the freak . The fact finding and research are such that I defy anyone to debunk this work in anyway .I urge you at least to listen to the taster, Press for truth -You'll find it here,
https://www.corbettreport.com/ (https://www.corbettreport.com/)
.Its becoming apparent that what could not be done by master race eugenists in WW2 by force of arms, is being attempted by stealth, trickery, lies and corruption - wake up folks!
my kindest regards Duncan
now move it up one or two gears please
https://www.corbettreport.com/ (https://www.corbettreport.com/)
Its a pisser - its confusing - organiized- designed - planned, we have to grasp and make a plan . against what exactly ? and how to mount it
here it is I think and the people pulling the strings
http://www.stopthecrime.net/docs/SILENT%20WEAPONS%20for%20QUIET%20WARS.pdf (http://www.stopthecrime.net/docs/SILENT%20WEAPONS%20for%20QUIET%20WARS.pdf)
mass none complance ? rebellion ? well please make others aware - Blessings Duncan
Dohboy
QuoteI would respectfully suggest its very important folks become familiar with Just who Hells Gates is and nowhere better right now than award winning documentary maker James Corbett . He along with his production editor have managed a Herculean task of making a four part documentary on the freak . The fact finding and research are such that I defy anyone to debunk this work in anyway .I urge you at least to listen to the taster, Press for truth -You'll find it here,
https://www.corbettreport.com/
.Its becoming apparent that what could not be done by master race eugenists in WW2 by force of arms, is being attempted by stealth, trickery, lies and corruption - wake up folks!
Of course your right and Bill Gates is a freak... super intelligent, the 2nd richest man on the planet and very well spoken. So of course all the stupid people hate him because he represents everything they will never be. He is a constant reminder that intelligent people almost always finish first and accomplish the most while dipshit donny trump and friends talk in tongues and word salads, lol.
I get what your doing, trying to normalize stupid by trying to make the smartest people look bad but at the end of the day it will never work my friend. You see your future has already been written in my opinion...
1) This is the year climate change brings on the record temperatures again, droughts, fire storms, floods and extreme weather events.
2) This is the year the ignorance and disregard for the pandemic brings on a killer second wave which basically wipes out what was left of most economies.
3) This is the year when donny trump and his followers try to gerry rig the election but still lose then try to illegally seize power creating the equivalent of a civil war.
The perfect storm...
So you can mock intelligence and science all you want but understand reality doesn't give a shit what you believe. There are intelligent people who can do real things which matter and there is everyone else who cannot. So when your power goes out, all the systems start failing or you have no water, food or shelter people like you always call people like me... understand bitch?.
So if you had a cancerous tumor would you contact donny trump, a priest to bless you or a real doctor who actually knew what the fuck he was doing who could probably save your life?. You see when push comes to shove your BS just doesn't work in the real world, it's just more of the same old self-righteous I believe and want to sell you a vacuum cleaner kind of BS.
Regards
Dont know if this was posted here yet, but billybob wants french fried potaters. Slingblade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muKf0S7fQbQ
Mags
What seems to be said in that video is that the 'subdue religious thoughts' vaccine would be dispersed through a respiratory vaccine, like flu, etc. Seems to want to disperse it secretively. This guy is just the worst.
Please listen to all that is said in the vid very carefully
Mags
On a planet far far away - lost-bro posted this. I find it very very sobering
http://www.stopthecrime.net/docs/SILENT%20WEAPONS%20for%20QUIET%20WARS.pdf (http://www.stopthecrime.net/docs/SILENT%20WEAPONS%20for%20QUIET%20WARS.pdf)
for your consideration
kind regards D
This is pointless
AWW!! :'(
AC/onepower you're just mad because President Donald J. Trump is stopping the socialist agenda of your buddies drunken Hillary and her senile buddy Biden. >:( All your ranting is just making you look silly because YOU don't even live in this country. What goes on here is actually none of YOUR business. :-\ And if you would stop watching all the fake news media propaganda you might even realize that America is nothing like what you think it is. :)
And you still haven't answered either of my questions. What good guidelines didn't we follow in the U.S. that is responsible according to YOU for the infection rate being higher in the U.S. than the infection rate in Canada. YOU made that claim, now back it up with some facts.
And you haven't yet named one law that YOU claim President Donald J. Trump has passed that is against green energy. Another false claim you have made with no evidence to back it up. Which goes to show that all you know how to do is repeat the false lies being told by the propaganda machines of the lying media.
So, since you can't answer those questions it appears you are just a know nothing crybaby. :'( :'(
I have heard that Bill Gates is in fact working together with Donald Trump. And all people who are against Bill Gates and Donald Trump will be inoculated and brought to FEMA camps.
Of course all Socialists, Communists and no good journalists will also be dealt with.
The G5 towers with Windows software will find all good for nothing people to be treated as they deserve.
The corona restrictions are to immobilise the population in order to more easily inforce the new world order. Flat Earth will be the new dogma.
Tesla Coils will be distributed for free and every home will get a overunity machine, a permanent magnet motor and an anti gravity chair for each person in the household (for a monthly fee collected by Microsoft).
Greetings, Conrad
Quote from: conradelektro on May 30, 2020, 09:59:31 AM
I have heard that Bill Gates is in fact working together with Donald Trump...
That almost make sense: ;) when Donald declared withdrawing funds, Bill immediately declared additional funds to the UN.
https://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/spiegelspecial/index-1995-2.html (https://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/spiegelspecial/index-1995-2.html)
https://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/spiegelspecial/d-9157717.html (https://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/spiegelspecial/d-9157717.html)
They are among the most powerful and versatile control substances in every human and animal organism: they give the first signal that determines the development of sexual characteristics, with all the consequences for body type and nature; they affect physical health and well-being for life, generate or dampen lust, prevent or trigger diseases such as cancer.
Article as PDF
UNWANTED FEMALE
But now the hormones - once synonymous with reproduction - are suspected of being counterproductive in their very own domain and "threatening the reproductive ability of humans", as the US science magazine Science wrote.
"Falling sperm counts? Atrophied penises? It's not feminists' fault, chemical pollutants in water and food could be the cause," the US magazine Newsweek summed up the scientific knowledge about an environmental problem, the importance of which is only beginning to emerge.
Over the past few years, biologists have discovered a progressive feminization of the male in numerous wild animals, but sometimes the opposite - a progressive masculinization in female fish, for example.
The cause of these profound changes is partly hormones from pharmaceutical products such as birth control pills that get into the wastewater. In addition, there are apparently a large number of industrially produced chemical substances and their degradation substances, whose molecular structure is similar to that of hormones. They are absorbed by human and animal organisms and have the same effect there as, for example, estrogens.
In Germany alone, the resident doctors prescribe 20 million packs of birth control pills and four million packs of the estrogen-containing remedies for the symptoms of menopause every year. Whether the medication is swallowed or thrown away in the garbage - it ultimately ends up in nature's cycle again, be it through the sewer or with the rain that sweeps it out of the dump.
Johannes Huber, hormone specialist at the Vienna University Clinic, analyzed the wastewater from the central sewage treatment plant in Vienna-Meidling last year. Huber was "horrified", the news magazine Profil reported when the numbers from the analyzer ticked. "In Vienna's wastewater there is an estrogenic activity like in the blood of a fertile woman," said Huber.
The scientist measured values in the wastewater broth that corresponded to 90 picograms of the female hormone estrogen per milliliter. Huber: "A hormonal time bomb may be ticking here." If such estrogen concentrations entered the body via the food chain, fertility could be impaired, at least in men.
British scientists discovered trout and carp men who had become transsexuals near sewage treatment plants whose drainage pipes flowed into rivers or streams. Tiny traces of the highly effective pill hormone ethinylestradiol had turned the male animals into pseudo-females unable to produce.
There is still no clear evidence that so-called environmental hormones - insecticides, herbicides, plastics, bleaches or degradation products from cleaning agents - also affect human health and reproductive capacity. But there are numerous indications for this.
At the international conference "Estrogens in the Environment", which was held in Washington last year, the Danish endocrinologist Niels Skakkebaek and his Scottish colleague Richard Sharpe led the most serious:
- The incidence of testicular cancer has risen sharply in numerous industrialized countries. In Denmark, for example, where a national cancer registry has been kept since 1943, the disease has tripled in the past 50 years. A similar increase has been observed in other Scandinavian countries, but also in Scotland and the USA.
- An international study involving nearly 15,000 men showed that the average number of sperm per milliliter of ejaculate has dropped from 113 million in 1940 to 66 million in 1990. The amount of semen produced during ejaculation decreased by about 30 percent over the same period.
Cases of undescended testicles and hypospadias (split urethra) in male newborns have almost doubled in the past four decades. The doctors also registered all these symptoms in the male offspring of women who were treated with the - now banned - synthetic estrogen DES in the 1950s and 1960s.
On the other hand, animal experiments at a US institute, the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences in North Carolina, have shown that a number of environmental pollutants affect male offspring
ARE SO SMALL KIDNEYS
By Christiane Kohl
02/01/1995
The blockers came with gas masks and white protective suits. On January 16, 1994, early in the morning at 7.45 a.m., they occupied an important traffic junction in downtown Stuttgart. Your slogan: "Caution, benzene!"
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ARE SO SMALL KIDNEYS
Nothing went anymore in the Swabian capital, the cars jammed in all directions. However, instead of complaints or statements of protest, the demonstrators only received approval from the responsible state authorities.
The environment minister announced that the anti-car action was "a right step". The transport minister said he had asked the Bonn government to finally take action against the high benzene pollution caused by car traffic.
Benzene is a horror word for environmentalists and health politicians. The aromatic-smelling chemical, an extremely poisonous combination of hydrocarbons, has recently become particularly widespread, especially in cities, as a result of the auto-invasion. Around 92 percent of the benzene emissions, a total of 52,000 tons per year, come from the exhaust pipes.
Benzene is known to be a clearly carcinogenic substance. According to medical doctrine, even the smallest concentrations can cause blood cancer in sensitive people.
Young children are particularly at risk, their noses just reaching over the hoods of the cars. According to measurements by Greenpeace, the exhaust gases are concentrated there about three times as much as at those altitudes (three to five meters) at which government officials usually track down the pollutants.
The benzene exhaust is by no means the only pollutant that disproportionately affects children. For years, there has been increasing evidence that dangerous environmental toxins in the air, in food, and even in clothing are so difficult for young people to develop that immune deficiencies, rashes and allergies, neurological disorders and cancer can be consequential damages:
- Pediatricians in metropolitan areas observe a significant increase in asthma even in very small patients - almost one in ten fourth graders, according to series tests by doctors at Hauner's Children's Hospital in Munich, suffers from the (in extreme cases, life-threatening) allergy. Another 11 percent of the 6500 children examined had to struggle with hay fever at this age.
- Parents are close to despair because even babies scratch their skin and can hardly sleep from itching - according to the Munich study and surveys by the Hamburg health authority, between 11 (Munich) and 20 percent (Hamburg) of school beginners are now suffering, probably 1 nationwide. 5 million children with chronic skin irritation (neurodermatitis).
- Teachers are increasingly observing behavioral problems in their students; many children are nervous and hyperactive, can hardly concentrate and have learning difficulties - symptoms that experts also associate with stress and noise-related stress factors.
The pressure on those responsible is growing: The Academy for Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine, an association of all pediatric associations in Germany, already asked the German government in 1992 to finally establish an all-German research program "Children and the Environment". Analogous to waste laws and waste water regulations, general guidelines for the protection of children against environmental damage should be issued.
"We leave mortgages for future generations," says Heidelberg environmental scientist Dieter Eis: "Ultimately, it's an experiment with people."
The worst air pollutants are considered to be cars: in the Old Federal Republic alone, the number of cars has tripled in the past 20 years. What they blow out of the exhaust pipes, nitrogen oxides and carbon monoxide, dioxins, lead and benzene, could be the cause of the rapid increase in asthma and hay fever.
When it comes to pollution, there is an imaginary border through reunified Germany. On the river Elbe, along the former death strip, the health researchers can still recognize the old demarcation line from their findings:
- In the West, allergies are in the foreground - when the pediatricians at Hauner's Hospital in Munich tested their subjects with irritants for allergic reactions, almost every second child reacted. The researchers' conclusion: 42 percent of the test children are classified as latent allergy sufferers.
- In the east, on the other hand, respiratory diseases are the main problem - of a few thousand offspring, which were examined by various research groups in Halle, Leipzig and Magdeburg, about a third, twice as many children as in western Germany, suffered from bronchitis and other chronic respiratory infections; only every 30th child had hay fever.
Like fingerprints, the environmental toxins have left special traces in human organisms in both East and West. Breast milk samples, for example, reports the head of environmental hygiene at the Lower Saxony Ministry of Social Affairs, Michael Csicsaky, had the testers label them almost blindly according to the finding: "West milk contains more dioxins, east milk more DDT."
Breast milk analysis characterizes the different levels of economic development in the two parts of Germany: The pesticide DDT, an ancient model from the early days of chlorine chemistry, has been banned in western Germany since 1972. In the GDR, however, it was still widely sprayed on the fields in 1986.
The high-tech chemicals from the chlorinated hydrocarbon family, which are now being developed in the West, have long been added to all sorts of everyday products. They can be found in carpets and household cleaners, inflatable baby paddling pools and even in some types of petrol - in car engines and in household waste incineration plants, these compounds exude dioxins, and stuff is blown across the country from chimneys and exhaust pipes.
In the case of another chemical, on the other hand, findings point to similar pollution in East and West Germans: the so-called polychlorinated biphenyls (PCB), compounds that are found in transformers and fluorescent tubes, coolants and mineral oils and are classified as similarly dangerous as dioxins, were found in East Germany. and western children in almost the same dose. The much-discussed harmonization of living conditions - it seems to work for pollutant transfer.
What children take in poisons is hardly manageable. According to the "Maximum Pollutant Quantity Ordinance" for food, breast milk should already be banned due to the exposure to chlorinated hydrocarbons. And then it goes on: nitrate in children's tea, pesticides in break fruit, the new sweater that emits chemicals, the toy that contains plasticizers, toxic dyes or other additives. Nobody currently knows what the different substances do in combination with one another, and it is controversial whether the officially stipulated pollutant limits also fit for children. The threshold values mostly come from the occupational health and safety area and are based on a fictitious, 70 kg average man.
The fact that children are much more susceptible to environmental toxins than adults can be explained by the size difference. In relation to the surface of the skin, they weigh a lot less body weight than an adult: The outer skin of an infant is about nine times smaller than that of its father, but the volume of the baby is just a 27th of the body volume of an adult.
Because of the different geometry alone, the child's metabolism must be three times as active as that of his father - it is therefore three times as sensitive.
And because, for example, the blood-brain barrier, a chemical entrance check in front of the brain, has not yet been properly developed, toxins that would be rejected in adults reach the brain in children via the bloodstream. In addition, the substances in the small organ can do more damage.
Also in the liver, the body's central metabolic factory, various branches of production only exist in the shell. The detoxification department is still suffering from start-up problems, and the enzymes lack certain tools to rework the incoming substances for further transport in the bloodstream.
In sensitive babies, the liver has copper problems. Chlorine compounds such as PCB, DDT and dioxins can stimulate enzyme formation - one of the reasons why the scientists classify such chemicals as possibly carcinogenic.
With the kidneys, the body's drainage system, it is hardly any different during the first half of life, they are also not yet fully developed. Therefore certain substances are not excreted correctly. In addition to the lungs, the kidneys are the main target organ of the highly toxic heavy metal cadmium; at extremely high loads, even functional disorders of the detoxification organ are possible.
The child's gut, recycling yard and garbage disposal in one, sorts substances into the production cycle that do not belong there. This way, the children take in more lead and other heavy metals than adults as well.
In addition, nitrate, which bubbles with the drinking water in many households, is converted into nitrite in the intestine and stomach. In the blood, this nitrogen compound reacts with the hemoglobin and thus interferes with the oxygen transport. In extreme cases, infants may experience deadly blue addiction.
The oxygen supply to the cells can also be significantly impeded by carbon monoxide (CO). The poison gas from the car exhaust binds to the ha instead of the oxygen.
1995 study results : 2020 ?
Quote from: trewq on May 30, 2020, 12:32:45 PM
That almost make sense: ;) when Donald declared withdrawing funds, Bill immediately declared additional funds to the UN.
i wouldnt bank on that about Don and Bill. Trump doesnt like the UN as he believes in nationalism. Im pretty sure Trump know that vacs need to be what we all think they should be by definition and not used 'against' the people for selfish reasonings without their knowledge.
Mags
Regarding the vaccine -- as I'm not American and the polotics of the individual quite rightly don't affect me to much . apart from as an important allied partner in certain area's - Anyway It strikes me that this is an international assault on humanity . I would suggest the Bilderberger's are key and Hells Gates just another spoke in that carefully crafted wheel .
I present here from another non censored platform a 1000 doctor round table discussion on the plandemic vaccine. its sources , finance , and perhaps much more importantly - the probable reasoning and effects.
https://londonreal.tv/dr-rashid-buttar-hosts-a-doctors-covid-19-roundtable-1000-voices-strong/ (https://londonreal.tv/dr-rashid-buttar-hosts-a-doctors-covid-19-roundtable-100s%20of%20voices-strong/)
Seem those taking part in vaccination tests - must not/can't, breed mutants it seems would be the result.This is I suspect is part of this agenda being enacted -- If I'm wrong IMHO we need to be aware and then make good and bloody sure I'm wrong.
http://www.stopthecrime.net/docs/SILENT%20WEAPONS%20for%20QUIET%20WARS.pdf (http://www.stopthecrime.net/docs/SILENT%20WEAPONS%20for%20QUIET%20WARS.pdf)
I hope I am wrong - but the 2nd spring test and Integration is very possible! - either way the vaccine doesn't look very yummy to me even though I dont see if its put into law A'la typhoid Mary how most of us could avoid it -- how about you guys? some folks are waking up its true. but as the battle plan - makes clear - not enough - and they are in planned confusion, because the media is tightly controlled as planned .
Kind regards Duncan
Hi Danny – I'd like to for a couple of posts swing off on a slightly different track . The question I ask folks to consider is – Is there any rhyme or reason vaccinations should be required for coronavirus ? However before going there lets take the camera back a few paces and see if the larger picture can answer that . So perhaps the question should be – Is there really any logical reason to lock the planet down and destroy lives.
OK we are I guess for the most part researchers , engineers , scientist ,hobbyists perhaps not so many epidemiologists, Doctors and medico's. Regardless most of us know a little maths and I suggest we can see how a epidemiological should be mapped – we have the figures that were used to draw that map, The governments own figures.
This isn't an area many are familiar with , what effect can any particular virus have on any particular population group is important . For instance I sure folks recall the effect of small pox introduced to native Indians in the USA ? The had no natural immunity and so it was devastating.
There is a base called Rnaught which really relates to the number of people infected by any particular carrier.
Please don't imagine the object of lock down is to stop the spread of this virus, It is essential that most of us catch this virus and develop antibodies. The excuse was /is – to slow the spread down – so called flatten the curve – not alter the area of it!
I suggest we need a little help to look at this Mathematics . I have opted for a mathematics Prof called Andrew Mather to try and help us . I have taken the liberty of editing his own introduction a little for brevity lol – I know I'm smart had to leave that in!
http://dnp.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/a/Andrew%20Mather1.wav (http://dnp.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/a/Andrew%20Mather1.wav)
These guys use predictive mapping they use for millions and millions – day in , day out. In his earlier videos you'll see covid 19 was assumed to be 'exponential' for ever and ever Amen – It was designed to scare the shit out of us! - The death rates boosted away from all reality. Even using the governments own cooked and butchered figures the mathematical map – won't fit!
Here for instance is a street scene in central Stockholm on live webcam you'll see not a mask in sight ! The cafes and pubs fill up (look at that cafe today – jam packed ) folks chatting – In short normal humans doing human things.
http://www.webbkameror.se/webbkameror/stureplan/index.php (http://www.webbkameror.se/webbkameror/stureplan/index.php)
Look very hard – do you see coffins piled up? Think they have a huge death rate – what with all the schools and theatres open ? If deaths per million is your yard stick – they are doing better than the UK for sure .
Here's an international ticker – look yourself
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries)
I would suggest a lot more what's called 'herd immunity ' as well
I guess we need to understand a little about what Andrew means when he tells us this Virus Is never has been ' an exponential ' – That's because no virus ever has been (or ever will be ) no infection rate is a – straight line – an exponential mathematical operation is .
It was this intensional trickery that allowed this world wide deception to be applied. These Finance guys use predictive mapping all the time – Its there bread and butter . I guess we also need to grasp distribution curves too , meanwhile Andrew tells and shows us this -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvTFCGJcFVI&t=245s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvTFCGJcFVI&t=245s)
Kind regards Duncan
SARS-CoVid19 : ASARS-CoVid19 : BSARS-CoVid19 : C
Will there be a vaccination for the these three - different- virus stams ? All-in-one ? One-for-three ?
How fast do they mutate ?
I accept virologists and epidemiologists their solely virus/virion/... measurement and calculation,but no one virologist and epidemiologist has the physical and psychological ability to assume in numbers the pandemia/epidemia potential,
because there is not known ( and not the wish to really know cause legal penal concerns by physiants and hospitals)by very low autopsy numbers world-wide ,Germany ≤4%,Schweden 37%(the global maximum !)
the different autopsy search targets ,
and as geographical map comparison : flu per 100000 citizen in Austria by geo-political zones :
"relatively" extreme differences in numbers even in low distance ,cluster/chests
Vaccination is "ordered infection",by such low risc for healthy people without one/more pre-illness/es the death rate cause this global vaccination program can/will be as same high/ higher than without vaccination !
Actually we do not know the real Corona-virus risc , independent from virologists or epidemiologists there no/ existence !? They are actually " media artists",far away to be taken serious !
Probably like the HIV only in a " bouncer" function,not deadly,but the "party guests" in unlimited growth are !
Corona-viriae are in human bodies common,probably since the humans their evolution,to define their existence only since the high optical resolution by electro-micro-/nano-scopy possible
but not these special partial -mutated - SARS-CoVid19 A,B,C(,..... ?) ,the SARS-CoVid mutation risc known and published 2015,~ HIV meets Corona virus and assimilate specific potentials !
Duncan Doh-Boy what do you smoke and who is your dealer? Or is it the medication administered in a too high dose?
Greetings, Conrad
Hi Conrad I find myself wondering what your erroneous comments allude to . I haven't smoked anything for over 30 years and am delighted to report I have no need of medication for anything as yet.
When I ask you to view and comment on the projection of hundreds of Doctors and mathematical professors along with live webcam evidence I'm not really inviting any comment on me personally (I have no idea where you have got that ridiculous idea from) but rather these very concerned professionals who are concerned regarding the novel renegade action being played out world wide.
The Fact that a college drop out with no medical training of any sort in the shape of Hells Gates is also involved causes concern to to the vast majority – in fact 100% of the medico's. Kindly make some effort to stay on topic and not concern yourself with which members might smoke (or not)
My kind regards Duncan
Quote from: lancaIV on May 31, 2020, 07:52:45 AM
SARS-CoVid19 : ASARS-CoVid19 : BSARS-CoVid19 : C
Will there be a vaccination for the these three - different- virus stams ? All-in-one ? One-for-three ?
How fast do they mutate ?
I accept virologists and epidemiologists their solely virus/virion/... measurement and calculation,but no one virologist and epidemiologist has the physical and psychological ability to assume in numbers the pandemia/epidemia potential,
because there is not known ( and not the wish to really know cause legal penal concerns by physiants and hospitals)by very low autopsy numbers world-wide ,Germany ≤4%,Schweden 37%(the global maximum !)
the different autopsy search targets ,
and as geographical map comparison : flu per 100000 citizen in Austria by geo-political zones :
"relatively" extreme differences in numbers even in low distance ,cluster/chests
Vaccination is "ordered infection",by such low risc for healthy people without one/more pre-illness/es the death rate cause this global vaccination program can/will be as same high/ higher than without vaccination !
Actually we do not know the real Corona-virus risc , independent from virologists or epidemiologists there no/ existence !? They are actually " media artists",far away to be taken serious !
Probably like the HIV only in a " bouncer" function,not deadly,but the "party guests" in unlimited growth are !
Corona-viriae are in human bodies common,probably since the humans their evolution,to define their existence only since the high optical resolution by electro-micro-/nano-scopy possible
but not these special partial -mutated - SARS-CoVid19 A,B,C(,..... ?) ,the SARS-CoVid mutation risc known and published 2015,~ HIV meets Corona virus and assimilate specific potentials !
Please note - I think most know the figures are bein more cooked than fried chicken - also note Prof Andrew Mather is using the very figures used by the various goverments - which is exacly the point! These guys should be in jail
kind regards Duncan
As Stefan pointed out when opening this thread Bill hells Gates plays a large role in this many headed evil hydra . This prick Hells Gates (as award winning Canadian documentary maker James Corbett points out again and again) has absolutely no medical' fingers to put in any of these pies.
One of those pies is the centre for infectious disease control and the provider for the figures all this ridiculous bollix is based on – That would be Imperial College London, although it makes not a jot of difference where in the world it might be the approach of the UK altered from the eternal map of herd immunity into a the very first time the World has been treated like lab rats – immediately after the Gates foundation injected 148 million dollars to the mapping system which suddenly became 'exponential'.
A virus isn't .never has been and hopefully never will be 'exponential' had one even been the human race would have ceased to exist long ago.
It was the case made by Nick Ferguson (what's the chances of getting that disgraced civil servant in court now as a Government rep b.t.w?)
And it was parroted by this senile 80 year old American cretin Fauchi , what's the chances of him lasting long enough to stand trial ? IMHO there should be some sort of retirement age, so folks have half a chance of getting these criminals in the dock!
Anyway guys any virus is – never a exponential (an exponential is always – always – a dead straight line . Its a mathematical progression . This is the best corrupt figures the Hells Gates prostituted institute could come up with – as a graph I suggest you have a hard look before the thread continues . This isn't the black death or even Spanish flu ! There are no coffins in the street
even the cooked hashed up figures demanded by rich tricksters cant make it seem so! Lock down and 'social distancing' it is clear could make not an iota of difference as quite clearly seen in the Swedish meme
http://www.webbkameror.se/webbkameror/stureplan/index.php (http://www.webbkameror.se/webbkameror/stureplan/index.php)
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3885.0;attach=35063 (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3885.0;attach=35063)
A virus neither follows an exponential straight line , and so neither is it strictly correct to assume it a bell curve – It has in reality aspects of both . It is far more related to a bell curve however and that's where the mapping comes in. The bell curve is used in many situations from reliability to gambling . A simple example might be comparing the reliability and service cycles of a cheap and rather more expensive washing machine. This page then gives a quick and dirty idea of how the reliability curve works
https://www.thesimpledollar.com/financial-wellness/the-reliability-bell-curve-what-does-more-reliability-actually-mean/ (https://www.thesimpledollar.com/financial-wellness/the-reliability-bell-curve-what-does-more-reliability-actually-mean/)
What all virus's have in common with a bell curve is they curve over, An exponential never does – its a straight line for ever and ever Amen.
In common with analytical professors like Andrew Mather that point of change and the extent of it is uber important .
It is the double differential and directly relates to rate of change at an instant . For a finance analyst then it indicates a new 'Trend' What is common then is a rapid definite fold over indicates in the case of a virus – lock down becomes pretty irrelevant because – The curve is --- FLAT hence this mantra the sheeple were taught - flatten the curve ,aways has been BS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjyhGboI4C0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjyhGboI4C0)
kind regards Duncan
Our world is under a psychological attack via a divide and conquer strategy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Analytica
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/mar/17/the-cambridge-analytica-scandal-changed-the-world-but-it-didnt-change-facebook
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpbeOCKZFfQ
https://www.netflix.com/Title/80117542
floor
Whilst I whole heartedly agree with Floors post above and welcome his astute investigation and he is right its part of the parcel . we are as a collective as blind mice right now.
I suggest as I have pointed out its part of a wheel with many spokes . Here is Hells Gates for instance explaining just why Cambridge Analytica (and by extension the Hells Gates huge investment) could be such a 'spiffing thing' and many people want it :'( -you can have my share of Epstein,Gates, and any of these snooping bastard Eugenisist master race and welcome! I suggest don't let your little girls or grand daughters in range.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=10156276359373895 (https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=10156276359373895)
facebook will follow what the politico's come up with ? (Bill Hells Gates) That would be heavy suppression of the truth then?
This is in a sense political but certainly not in the sense of Democrat or Republic neither Labour or Conservative either party in either country would not make the slightest difference . neither where the bricks and mortar of these midden heaps are based. - It really is international
Its a well calculated many pronged assault on humanity itself . I really do mean the humanity of the world – Not the USA , Germany, China, Oregon. Cheltenham or even London .. All of us!
If you think for even one second your going to sit quietly in lock down and everything is going to – (at a controlled pace) return to 'normal' think again . There will be a second action and a third action its all been carefully worked out – and so have the reactions of the sheeple.
The data will be adjusted accordingly . The Bilderbergers are undoubtedly hauling on the strings and their puppets are dancing just as they have internationally before. (The international oil crisis for instance) If you have no Idea who these horrible bastards are let me introduce you to this Alex Jones docu – Just accept that it's 'over egged' in respect of America . (The Bilderberg group is a Clandestine Nazi based international organization initiated by Martin Bormann at the end of WW2) by Nazi high command. They didn't suddenly morf into exsistance in Holland in the early 1950s the Nazi instructions were clear particularly w.r.t to big pharma and the 'medical industry' and so its playing out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-CrNlilZho&t=2450s
I think you'll easily see that most of what is planned is unfolding . They understand of course it can't stay in place (this time) and understand the data has to be analysed and the treatment given again.The vaccinations are very much a part of this . So is 5G
Prof Andrew Mather who I quote earlier wrote a book on these events in march months ago now of course and I know its easy in hindsight . It is but eight pages long and absolutely free to read on kinder I suggest you spare it a tiny little bit of your time .
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kings-Coronavirus-Cautionary-Tale-ebook/dp/B086J9R8PB
There is clearly a plan behind this world wide high jacking of political rights and so called 'unassailable civil rights' – That's a belly chuckle isn't it ? The right of assembly won't be back any time soon (if ever) and if it is the second sample test and rebound is on its way!
It is following this world wide Bilderberg plan right now.
http://www.stopthecrime.net/docs/SILENT WEAPONS for QUIET WARS.pdf (http://www.stopthecrime.net/docs/SILENT%20WEAPONS%20for%20QUIET%20WARS.pdf)
Integrate the results (in the mathematical sense) adjust and deliver and the treatment given again – The progress is mathematically mapped
In the well known fashion of this regime opposition with knowledge is 'dissapeared'
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=208129 (http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=208129)
false figures , false scare. Control of media – et al . The object ? Exactly the same as the so called 'Master race' always has been.
hand over freedom for the promise of utopia -- get something very different. sure its slow and careful , Its the future of the children and grandchildren (you might have had) that is being plotted,not what happens next week.
Kind regards Duncan
As non-part from Bilderberg I like the basic - classical - "eugenic idea",going back to the Sparta life and existence philosophy,throwing away the military-strategical symptom/"mental complex"-part and assimilate this reste with Francis Galton his non-/conscious re-/search ,our influence related over our physical body ,something which others call it "Aura",with positive(attraction) or negative ( repulsion) influence !
It is clear that science research and solutions results can become misused,but at first we have to know and understand what this results,their influences can change and what hereby will/would be against common,written laws and their orders,in our life !
"Eugenics" by itself is part from the hirarchical human family/group/clan/ tribe structure,aristocraty and dynasty/dynaste makes part of it ,by will/power exposure or by herance/heredith !
In our single-child society without the possibility,with positive and negative arguments, to grow up with brothers/sisters individuals do not/can not learn to by equal familiar membership value by/of moderating grand-/mother/father position to become social and to act and react to best/good and bad/worst situations/moments with compensatoric handling !
The difference of " soft/hard" condition : from professional view ,
the butcher / animals,policeman/criminals,the teacher/ student
NWO for NEW WORLD ORDER has been in the last decades for some a "conspiracy"-expression,now since 2009 the United Nations Organisation use this expression also and gives to this Order-Organigram their several program-points :
openly to discuss worst/best case and the result later to execute !
This is democratic ! And transparent !
Nobody expect from us or from them total precastng wisdome !
But it is the U.N. their function to consult their member-estates,including the NGOs their precasts and concerns !
Neither the german 4.Deutsche Reich ( N.S.D.A.P - "Nazis" did it have,only Nietzsche and Henry Ford their life views as vision was as " political execution line" not enough ! )
Subtil question : when after jewish,deficientes,communists(political enemies) were liqudized,whch woud have been te next enemies : all lying Nazis ? An upper limit of liquidation ?
Are we not in the possibility to construct a question to somebody with the intention to get/receive a lie ?
Each one can become constructed as a friend,each one can become constructed ss an enemy !
This is our democratic freedom(e) !
For tax-based economies a must,to construct " enemies",with approved "Nazi"-selfdestruction risc and high fail probability !
One we can remark : this has been the FASTEST "1000jaehrige"Reich" (destruction in SHORTEST time ;D )
The expression ,the locaity/the time/subject-object knowedge,the use,the contexte,the intention
"democracy": Athen ,from Patrizier view or the official slaves(law-less people,things-like treat)
" Eugenic I" : Delphi,Apollo,Pytheischen Spiele/Games ;aristocratic games
"Eugenic II " : life treat and habits over the time
"EUGENIC III": Eigentlich,an und fuer sich, "Reden ist Silber,Schweigen ist Gold"
you have it in the first few words -- I like-- who else has been asked what they might like (or not) -- I'll draw a picture of these kiddie fiddling eugenicist's if you like , but pretty it isn't! and silence I don't think is golden in this instance very far from it!- IMHO these loons need stopping! pronto!If it isn't the truth - you can't build on it . Its as simple as that ! (excuse the rough translation germans OK latin not so much )
here's a happy smiling picture of the silence -- one or two it seems are a bit more silent than they wished now(Mort). and I dont think that was in the plan.- dirty bastards!not sure if Hells Gates has a hard on in this pic - or has he?
http://www.energeticforum.com/filedata/fetch?id=498699&d=1590566914 (http://www.energeticforum.com/filedata/fetch?id=498699&d=1590566914)
smiling happy people this isn't - b.t.w does the lead say lock down here about 1.40 ? doesnt really matter anyway - tis so - just like to be corrected if on occasion wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYOKMUTTDdA
true and honest - this coronavirus crap isn't going to be -the silence you intimate ? why should I exactly? . is it a request or demand? on an open platform ? I suggest you behave and very quickly - how much more powerful the filth you want to see ? its a stinking heap a absolute midden! - Golden indeed I think not!the back lash from this will be huge. Its true folks are stunned right now ,absolutly (that bit has worked) decent people are wakeing very quickly and taking stock . there is going to be an account to tally - I suggest --- get out of the way
kind regards Duncan
RAW FOOTAGE
WARNING This video contains a flat out brutal murder ! WARNING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4VM3WY24Q4
1. This cop / these cops KNEW THE WHOLE TIME that they were being video taped.
2. They were put up to this.
3. They are agent provocateurs.
4. I have been told that there is a video of the (Knee on neck) cop standing near by
Donald Trump (another time / place). Haven't see that footage my self... yet.
5. The murder and the video are intended to start riots.
Are you listening ?
It's divide and conquer.
There is only one side to take, it includes all human beings.
peace out
floor
Another video angle of the murder, shows that two more "officers" were kneeling on George's back bahind the police car.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/new-video-officers-on-george-floyd-back
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/new-video-shows-another-angle-of-george-floyd-being-restrained-by-police-84061253930
Look, people.
Bill Gates
Donald Trump
In the quiet of the night floor as I was thinking over events thats exactly the conclusion I came to 'agent provocateurs' -- I admit the possibility didn't strike me before -- logic I'm afraid means your probably quite right. Its disturbing that society ,the world if fact is being played like a bloody yo.yo . Its difficult to see anyway out of the strangle hold right now. Most of the media is controlled - including the clip you talk of. ergo they showed it as you suggest - because they wanted to. also now you show the number of 'officers' present its obvious there's no earthly reason for that deadly knee action at all. seems we are in a very odd limbo , many people realise things are far from right, can't quite put their finger on what or why and really don't know how to counter it (don't know myself ,but I'm sure trying to understand the deception is a start - nice research btw Floor
kindest regards Duncan
PS following your lead brought up this , should you log on to see the whole article , it pictures the killer cop at other scenes of horror
could be smoke and mirrors I guess but for your inspection
https://benjaminfulford.net/2020/06/01/zionist-pandemic-plus-riots-plan-blows-up-in-their-faces/ (https://benjaminfulford.net/2020/06/01/zionist-pandemic-plus-riots-plan-blows-up-in-their-faces/)
@Doh-Boy
What I found out about officer Derek Chauvin (killer of George Floyd) "standing near by to Donald Trump".
Nothing.
But....
There is what seems to me to be, an inordinate amount of directing of attention to a photo of
a Minnesota police officer at a Trump rally. That man isn't Chauvin.
Don't know if this is even the same Rally or film or video as MAY have shown Chauvin.
Also
Some one was able to quell / discredit / stop the "rumor" very rapidly and on a large scale.
They protest overly much, me thinks.
floor
Floor I find huge Censorship of society and the media right now. It seems manic to me most are watching what the media wants us to watch. . Specific to the vaccine which Stefen questions (for instance) I invite - take a look at this
http://londonreal.tv/bigtree (http://londonreal.tv/bigtree)
I suggest this vaccine is fundamental the the hidden agenda and is a good attack subject. No Hells gates vaccine world wide this time . Certainly not ever by force. We also IMHO need rid of this social distancing nonsense ASAP
Kind regards Duncan
I have seen the Documentary "Vaxed". I think every one should sees it.
It is obvious that vaccinations some times cause autism, some times causes severe autism. Also post-polio syndrome and other undesired consequences. Why doesn't this information come from the drug companies and governments their selves ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_for_Disease_Control_and_Prevention
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_vaccine
All U.S. states REQUIRE the wearing of seat belts. Most States in the U.S. REQUIRE the wearing of bicycle helmets. Some states only require this for children.
Both, the hippy liberals and the conservative fundamentalist Christians saw eye to eye / worked together on this one...............
The state of California, on the basis of either a religious or a philosophical reason, used to allow the choice of, to vax or not to vax. The people of California managed to fight off the big pharmaceutical pressure, for a couple of decades. But big money eventually won out, and now children cannot attend public schools without proof of vaccination. Adults cannot perform certain jobs without proof of vaccination.
I think now days, most Californians were not / are not even aware that they once had and lost that choice.
To Vaccinate or not to Vaccinate, is a tough one though..................
How many deaths and how much dire effects without vaccination, verses how many dire effects with vaccination.
Even food ingredients must be listed on the packaging, but where is the list of ingredients in vaccines to be found ? Where is the warning label ? Where is the unbiased scientific information, and who paid for the studies ?
As an aside.....
Califonia law makes it not leagal for the State itself, to require its people to make use of the services of private industries (like the insurance companies). The insurance industry got around this by lobying a legal option (loop hole for the industry), that a person could insted post a $50,000 dollar. Got 50 grand laying around ?
another very brave Doctor from Oldenberge speaks out. regarding vaccination pretty hard when you think their jobs are on the line.
hats off to her.
https://youtu.be/j8BD7Olk-YQ (https://youtu.be/j8BD7Olk-YQ)
BOOM - BOOM - BOOM The senile 80 year old cretin foul cheese , ties to Hells gates vaccine, married to even more filth !! just how big is this cess Midden do you think ?
https://youtu.be/jkYen0g4TRU (https://youtu.be/jkYen0g4TRU)
be careful guys kindest regards Duncan
Believe it, or not: vaccines are not required to go through some medication procedures, since they're not considered medications: medications cure (or, they are supposed to do so), vaccines prevent, not cure anything.
Anyway, even when Gates will enforce his ideas of systems enforcing vaccination, I guess some ingenious opposition guys can make it hack-able.
Quote from: Doh-Boy on June 05, 2020, 06:03:40 AM
Floor I find huge Censorship of society and the media right now. It seems manic to me most are watching what the media wants us to watch.
Yep, ALL of the major U.S. news, ABC NBC CNN CBS FAUX(fox), are presenting only half truths.
Quote from: Doh-Boy on June 05, 2020, 06:03:40 AM
"We also IMHO need rid of this social distancing nonsense ASAP "
I would agree that the social distancing has been a pain in the arse, but I wouldn't say that slowing down the spread via social distancing, or for that matter, washing hands, or wearing masks has been nonsense. I TRY to remain objective and not base my opinions simply upon what is convenient to my life style and / or the desires which I have for monetary gain. Otherwise yes.....
As Soon As Possible.
Apparently a large percentage of people go through covid fast and with out much struggle.
I fortunately, live in an area where the infection rate has been VERY LOW. personally I know, only1 person, who has gone through the covid 19 illness. She says "worse illness she has ever gone through". I don't want to catch it and I hope at least, that my immune system is up for it, if / when I do.
Be well
hate the evil that people do
but not them that do it
floor
PS
I did a little social experiment. It was kind of a jack ass thing to do, but then again, most social experiments are kind of jack ass.
I live in a politically conservative region of the U.S..
"Some of my best friends are conservatives" smile
Early on, when most people, LOCALLY, were still in their "faux news / pandemic is a hoax" phase.... ... One stood out / struggled to set an example by wearing a mask.
As I encountered people not wearing protection while grocery shopping, I would tell them that...
"I not wearing this mask to keep me from getting covid19. I already have it. I'm wearing it so that you don't get it."
Wow, bang, and what do you know ?
INSTANT turn around, from its a hoax, to who do you think you are to to go around exposing me and other people to the covid 19.
hmmm
floor
WTF and OMG
https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-04-29-bill-gates-paralyzed-children-polio-vaccines-
coronavirus.html
Uh huh
And monkeys might fly out of my ass to.
floor
Don't know why that link came up wrong.
Here it that link (but its B.S.).
https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-04-29-bill-gates-paralyzed-children-polio-vaccines-coronavirus.html
floor
With the greatest respect Floor wearing a mask to protect me (for instance) is not appropriate. You might remember the big selling point over and over again was 'flatten the curve' certainly not alter the area of the curve which represents the number of 'the herd' who have contacted and developed antibodies.
The propaganda told us the health services would be overwhelmed – it hasn't happened so as I point out - drop the fool bloody rubbish straight away!
I suggest instead of listening to senile 80 year old cretins like foul cheese in the pay of hells Gates rather listen to actual trained knowledgable experts in the field. . In that respect I present for your inspection Professor Dolores Cahill.
Londonreal.tv/cahill (http://londonreal.tv/cahill)
As the commentator tells you to present her CV a star wars type scroll had to be used !
f.y.i Were I an OAP or frail person I might (just might) appreciate your wearing of masks if you knew yourself to be infectious ect but in reality special care should be being taken in those area's anyway.
The reality is in practice, most of us need to catch and overcome this virus which is less harmful that last years seasonal flu anyway.
Quite simply humans are social creatures and so IMHO this falsified Bollix needs kicking into the long grass ASAP.
I also remind there is another very dirty agenda running here headed by these 'Master race' kiddie fiddlers. (5G and social distancing fit nicely into that 'target area') first things first I suggest get the threat of this Hells Gates virus dream absolutly crushed!
Make sure as the Prof says these perverted individuals are one by one brought to account! Just to remind everyone of the present lunatic reaction here is a live webcam on a busy street in Stolkholm , watch the cafe and pub fill up to capacity -- No lock down required! EVER
http://www.webbkameror.se/webbkameror/stureplan/index.php (http://www.webbkameror.se/webbkameror/stureplan/index.php)
Why on earth at this stage then does anyone need one? -- If anyone really wants BS eat it by themselves ! Its bollix it has been from the start and continues to be !
Kind regards Duncan
Quote from: Doh-Boy on June 08, 2020, 01:31:03 AM
The propaganda told us the health services would be overwhelmed – it hasn't happened...
...because social distancing damped the spread.
You and your ilk haven't got a clue. I doubt your daft ravings convince anyone other than those committed to your sect but if they have, they may be seriously harmed.
Quote from: Paul-R on June 08, 2020, 06:32:39 AM
...because social distancing damped the spread.
You and your ilk haven't got a clue. I doubt your daft ravings convince anyone other than those committed to your sect but if they have, they may be seriously harmed.
Demo in Amsterdam on 01-06-2020, the effect on ..................... proven ZERO!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK0xJDdDDGE
Why are you hunting Duncan, stay at OUR, payed??
Regards Johan
Here are some points to correct :
Bill Gates is not working as " physiant/virologist/epidemiologist",he over his " foundation"( constructed to not become condemned by the american department of justice and to save his "somewhat illegal fortune" from the later millions of against Microsoft processing clients) invests the " share market phantom gains" in political correctness projects,clearly from majority view : the correctness !
About medicine and vaccination,dis-/advantages,we have enough pre-/poste view studies from douzens international WHO-participated programs.
But the WHO is not a ministry/administration,this organisation existence idea is to work as " consultance for peace and human wealth",without profit !
And about Bill Gates: he is not stupid but also not "super-intelligent",seeing this "genie" helpless during a CES/Las Vegas promotion and estimating his possibilities !But in our word it is not important the IQ-value !
But he,like Donald Trump and his Wall Street-establishment members in the US-government use the advocate syndicate cooperation, tribunal internal, and often against written laws and orders !
we have only to wait that this anti-establishment -"genius" D.T. will destroy the Wall Street and "the Establishment" behind,ergo included to distroy his old government-members .
( and finally himself, he actually living as "Deutsche Bank"- Kredit-Vasall ! No US-american Bank does anymore lease him,by american finance restriction", credit ! " Junk property"- worth ! )
He and his government members has to pray to become re-eleited,or : by the next day "chapter 11"-declaration !
But also an eleited "democratic party"-president will have to find the way out from a possible US-FED-system illiquidity and U.S.A. bancrupcy case !
I think that Bloomberg and is " expensive and failed trial" showed the americans,that money investment only does not change the mayority their mind !
The U.S. have to find their ranking position in now 200 U.N.-nations,Top5 or Top10 ,at the beginning !
"Supermacht" is history !
Quote from: Johan_1955 on June 08, 2020, 08:01:04 AM
Why are you hunting Duncan?
I'm not. I merely answered his post. (I note that he has not responded).
Certain people with little and often no relevant medical experience are putting out opinions as facts and these could very easily result in deaths - possibly already have. You need to be aware of this.
Quote from: Paul-R on June 08, 2020, 06:32:39 AM
...because social distancing damped the spread.
You and your ilk haven't got a clue. I doubt your daft ravings convince anyone other than those committed to your sect but if they have, they may be seriously harmed.
Normally I would be happy to answer any comment on my observations however you and your so called Ilk have certain cretin characteristics that make it pretty pointless rushing to oblige.
The first is you decide to attack me personally as Johan points out . He makes that observation I presume because he has done me the courtesy of taking the time to digest the information offered in the post before being rude and puerile enough to start calling anyone's observations – 'daft ravings'. It is clear you haven't extended yourself that far.
Although I have had some medical training it certainly isn't in epidemiology and I wouldn't dare to make sweeping comments like that without good grounds. The words were not mine and b.t.w I'm part of 'no medical sect', - proven science is the phrase your struggling with, I think you'll find
The words you high light are a direct quote from Professor Dr Rose Cahill, Prof. Cahill has over 5940 Citations, attached to her work in immunology and micro-biology.
The pointless and ridiculous activity of 'social distancing' She makes very forcefully between 7mins and 9mins. (for those who actually want to know the basis quickly)
http://londonreal.tv/cahill (http://londonreal.tv/cahill)
I point out the obvious in saying as Sweden's minister of health Lena Hallengren like Prof Cahill does they are following proven science and Its we that are the caged lab Rats.
ye gods, no loons have ever attempted to shut the world down before with a medical Mafia!and no sound mathamatical base
https://youtu.be/1Z5VYqJqrtI (https://youtu.be/1Z5VYqJqrtI)
Even if what you suggest had a grain of truth Paul and wasn't based on total bollix then the idea was to 'flatten the curve' (to assist the health services to say) not alter the area of it. That was done long ago so again ---
lift the bloody silly social distancing immediately humans don't live like this!
As also pointed out by many sources the epidemiological mapping being used has been an outrage from day one!
It shouldn't be ! Its basics have been well known for over 200 years. I was taught them myself! I did the double differential on the UK figures presented in March and the error was enormous.
There is an important miss direct I should point out at this point. The maths of virus mapping was based on a bell curve . In recent times it has been badly corrupted (intensionally I suspect) The mathematics itself makes a mockery of so called 'social distancing' (AS WELL)
as with regard to viewing content of a post some it seems have an attention span of a 'crushed ant' and not the courtesy to regard the content I direct to 15min- 18min of this video produced by Mathematics Prof Andrew Mather. Who is preparing legal redress regarding this current farce.
https://youtu.be/UW29CGhpkWE (https://youtu.be/UW29CGhpkWE)
I would suggest to others going back over the good Professors work as he realised from the outset it was a corruption of reality using exponential growth as a basis when even a clown should know a virus is never ever exponential.
In the USA they seem equally susceptible to cretins broadcasting huge showers of shit - in the shape of this senile 80 year old cretin Foul cheese who along with Hells Gates also seems prepared to destroy countries with deluded insane mapping generated from corrupted maths .
The insanity is also pointed out and amplified by Prof Dr Judy Milkovich in this video
https://www.bitchute.com/video/aNjeT1G6iGTh/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/aNjeT1G6iGTh/)
This video was predictably attacked – however she has responded , I suggest censorship is another factor which needs consideration as you consider the coronavirus farce the attention span of a crushed ant won't hack it – a balanced view of various experts just might, That takes time and effort I'm afraid. not following a corrupted perverted organised agenda presented by main stream media.
Kind regards Duncan
@ Doh-Boy
Wowed again and just blown away by your powerful insights.
You certainly have an amazing heart, so full of love, and a veritable well spring of wisdom. But not only that, your words ! They so clearly demonstrate / embody and reveal for all to see, that which is obviously the driving force behind your presence on the internet.
You really care about people don't you, cause it just shows. Thank you for making the world a better place, and keeping us all safe.
Here are some of thosewords.... below
Doh-Boy quotes
"Fuchi ? a senile 80 year old horror in the need of arrest and a -- understanding rest home,or treatment - certainly difficult to bring the bastard to account
Octogenarian senile prick driving the bus
Hells Gates and his Kiddie fiddler pals
on the little brown cherubs
hells gates and this paedophile gang of conspiracy and corruption
international filth but I'd like you to here show you another's view of this freak
If hells gates allowed them to procreate then perhaps the children could do the Lolita express thing of the future?
Dr foul cheese and hells gates -- heads need to roll!
Sounds to me like it would eliminate your ability to 'believe' in most anything spiritual or otherwise - in other words totally dumbed down to be good obedient slaves.
hence this mantra the sheeple were taught - flatten the curve ,aways has been BS
'll draw a picture of these kiddie fiddling eugenicist's if you like
IMHO these loons need stopping!
this coronavirus crap
how much more powerful the filth you want to see ? its a stinking heap a absolute midden!
The senile 80 year old cretin foul cheese , ties to Hells gates vaccine, married to even more filth !! just how big is this cess Midden do you think ?
BUT.......
decent people are wakeing very quickly and taking stock
AND ALSO
Kind regards Duncan "
End of quotes
wake up indeed
floor
daft ravings
Quote from: Floor on June 09, 2020, 12:10:56 AM
@ Doh-Boy
Wowed again and just blown away by your powerful insights.
You certainly have an amazing heart, so full of love, and a veritable well spring of wisdom. But not only that, your words ! They so clearly demonstrate / embody and reveal for all to see, that which is obviously the driving force behind your presence on the internet.
You really care about people don't you, cause it just shows. Thank you for making the world a better place, and keeping us all safe.
Here are some of thosewords.... below
Doh-Boy quotes
"Fuchi ? a senile 80 year old horror in the need of arrest and a -- understanding rest home,or treatment - certainly difficult to bring the bastard to account
Octogenarian senile prick driving the bus
Hells Gates and his Kiddie fiddler pals
on the little brown cherubs
hells gates and this paedophile gang of conspiracy and corruption
international filth but I'd like you to here show you another's view of this freak
If hells gates allowed them to procreate then perhaps the children could do the Lolita express thing of the future?
Dr foul cheese and hells gates -- heads need to roll!
Sounds to me like it would eliminate your ability to 'believe' in most anything spiritual or otherwise - in other words totally dumbed down to be good obedient slaves.
hence this mantra the sheeple were taught - flatten the curve ,aways has been BS
'll draw a picture of these kiddie fiddling eugenicist's if you like
IMHO these loons need stopping!
this coronavirus crap
how much more powerful the filth you want to see ? its a stinking heap a absolute midden!
The senile 80 year old cretin foul cheese , ties to Hells gates vaccine, married to even more filth !! just how big is this cess Midden do you think ?
BUT.......
decent people are wakeing very quickly and taking stock
AND ALSO
Kind regards Duncan "
End of quotes
wake up indeed
floor
and have you? I somehow doubt it! you quote one post and as you say -I have asked the question ! I have answered it !
you might not like the taste of the sweet however that's no matter one way or t'other . as for being blown away by my powerful insights - Thanks ever so much for the complement however I should point out they are not my insights almost without exception the medical and predictive maths observations have been made by Professors Doctors and experts in their fields.
The link to paedophiles the master race and eugenists is clearly made ! - here are some of the 'master race' to feast you eyes on -
http://www.energeticforum.com/filedata/fetch?id=498699&d=1590566914 (http://www.energeticforum.com/filedata/fetch?id=498699&d=1590566914)
The time between your posting here and the run time of the video's presented means yet again you critique the book without reading it!That needs to stop as does quoting people out of context.
I at least have the courtesy of reading your paste and copy efforts , or the very few lines of insulting diatribe you actually write daft ravings ect . -
kind regards Duncan
Johan – I thank you for your comment questioning and support , however the truth is aye a very powerful unstoppable weapon and the hunter will very quickly become the hunted. There are none so blind as those who will not see as I'm sure you know and you see that simply because of the evasion of the presentation's and research being deflected to personal attack .
Kind regards Duncan
Quote from: Doh-Boy on June 09, 2020, 03:01:42 AM
Johan – I thank you for your comment questioning and support , however the truth is aye a very powerful unstoppable weapon and the hunter will very quickly become the hunted. There are none so blind as those who will not see as I'm sure you know and you see that simply because of the evasion of the presentation's and research being deflected to personal attack .
Kind regards Duncan
Thanks Man,
Fighting since years against purchased puppy's, you would surprised who are being to be exposed, tread will come!
Translate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOR91x-z8jM
Thanks and Regards, J
To all the good people who seem to know everything and specially the truth about Bill Gates, G5-towers and the Coronavirus:
What will you do with your superior knowledge? Write strong worded posts?
How do you organise your life knowing everything? Hide in the woods? Make a revolution? Shoot the perpetrators or yourself?
What is the essence of your fight? Words? Demonstrations? Riots?
My guess, it is words and only words!
Greetings, Conrad
Quote from: conradelektro on June 09, 2020, 05:59:53 AM
To all the good people who seem to know everything and specially the truth about Bill Gates, G5-towers and the Coronavirus:
What will you do with your superior knowledge? Write strong worded posts?
How do you organise your life knowing everything? Hide in the woods? Make a revolution? Shoot the perpetrators or yourself?
What is the essence of your fight? Words? Demonstrations? Riots?
My guess, it is words and only words!
Greetings, Conrad
Hear, look, understand your action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klcUY6CSr_g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klcUY6CSr_g)
Quote from: Johan_1955 on June 09, 2020, 06:09:37 AM
Hear, look, understand your action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klcUY6CSr_g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klcUY6CSr_g)
Oh, I see, you are listening to songs! What a strong way to live with all that knowledge you seem to have.
Greetings, Conrad
I take it you direct at me ? (love the track btw) still have it on vinyl I certainly don't profess to know much at all in this field, I do however direct folks to the consideration of those who clearly do.
Regarding strongly worded writing it is with respect only usually reserved for folks who decide to comment whilst making no attempt to digest the presented content and so attempt to project at me personally instead of the subject matter.
The genesis that started the stench that became the reek of the health service you now have that is usurping governments and civil liberties world wide I suggest demands attention.
A very few Doctors are bravely making a stand here is German Doctor, Katrin Korb telling you loud and clear that unknown genetic material may well be injected into you very soon.
https://youtu.be/j8BD7Olk-YQ (https://youtu.be/j8BD7Olk-YQ)
That worrying prospect aside I wish to draw attention with this particular post to the history and reasoning that presents us with Doctors and medical services that by enlarge are mere lick spittle's to the Hell's Gates and Rockefeller agenda. In short an explanation as to how and why our health service workers and Doctors are held tightly by the short and curlies whether they know it or not. Alas most really are unaware, I suggest most Doctors regard whats going on right now as akin to being Tasered.
In short we are specifically looking for the point where the medical industry became bridled by the medical Mafia as outlined in great detail by amazing Polly here I wish I could make this shorter. However the actions have always been covert and hidden.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/1Z5VYqJqrtI/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/1Z5VYqJqrtI/)
In order to try and show you a clear picture It's my intension to present actual practical and physical examples from history that have been well documented and/or filmed. It won't be a quick and easy post I'm afraid it will take some time to run through the video's. However each one connects the health Mafia to the suppression of very effective health treatments. A major player in the spokes of the Plandemic, Polly has already connected you to is the Rockefeller foundation and they play a huge part in trashing any honesty in health services by infiltrating medical training and controlling registering bodies world wide. John D Rockefeller started the evil by setting up the MA's world wide along with perverting any charitable efforts with the various charade 'societies' they set up – Here is a pretty typical example for you reported by alternative cancer healer Bill Henderson
http://dnp.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/a/BH1.mp3 (http://dnp.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/a/BH1.mp3)
Understand , these are no friends of humanity – exactly the opposite in fact. let me ask, are you happy to remain an uninformed boob ? is that really your master plan? Before going to much deeper into the Rockefeller /Gates /WHO nonsense I suggest a hard look at the horrendous damage done historically by these organisations. I introduce you first then to a genius . A microbiologist Dr Royal Raymond Rife . This man entered an end of life Hospice (The Ellen Scripps clinic) and in the space of one month returned every inmate to robust health --- suppressed as Bill Henderson has told you by the Rockefeller MA system in the guise of Morris Fishbein – As you watch this video imagine the untold world wide misery this suppression has caused! I'm afraid its some two hours long. However an important player and subject.
https://www.rifevideos.com/Video/mp4/The_royal_rife story.mp4 (https://www.rifevideos.com/Video/mp4/The_royal_rife%20story.mp4)
It transpired that the Rockefeller AMA medical stooge Fishbein couldn't even pass basic human anatomy and never practised a days medicine in his life! The AMA in the guise of Fishbein was taken to task in open court and and soundly defeated by a very unlikely subject, compared to Royal Rife I would suggest that Harry Hoxey is like chalk and cheese however IMHO just as legitimate.
https://youtu.be/B9CvND_UykQ (https://youtu.be/B9CvND_UykQ)
Please don't get the impression that this is just one or two cases it is just the tip of a medical nightmare , A springboard for the mafia world control your watching unfold. Here for example is another medico that dared to build yet another huge magnification microscope with at least the legs of Rife's machine. As you might imagine his astounding work was also soon stopped. There's no profit in making people well it seems. Eventually a book was written about this French researcher
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/787609.The_Persecution_and_Trial_of_Gaston_Naessens (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/787609.The_Persecution_and_Trial_of_Gaston_Naessens)
here is Gaston on you tube for your inspection
https://youtu.be/KGJW94ciq4c (https://youtu.be/KGJW94ciq4c)
Now I guess you have a pretty good grasp of how the Doctors and researchers have been suppressed
If you wish to take the next step back into history where the Rockefeller foundations took over the medical personnel and the medical institutions and turned it into an industry and what we struggle with now – medical global Mafia. Oddly the pharmaceutical / medical industry is joined at the hip with oil via the Rockefeller foundation . It then perhaps comes as no surprise that John D Rockefeller very early in his megalomania took a tight hold of the medical systems and all medical education a tight hold that has never been released. This award winning documentary by James Corbett shows that link and the corruption of health better than any other I know . How big oil conquered the world would probably be better named how big oil conquered the world and disgraced the health systems.
https://youtu.be/ySnk-f2ThpE (https://youtu.be/ySnk-f2ThpE)
sorry for the time I've asked you to invest but I'm pretty sure you now have a clearer picture of where this is being driven and some of the who is driving us where !
Kind regards Duncan
Quote from: conradelektro on June 09, 2020, 06:30:12 AM
Oh, I see, you are listening to songs! What a strong way to live with all that knowledge you seem to have.
Greetings, Conrad
Not mine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82BHyUsh9T4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82BHyUsh9T4)
Did have some ConradElektro products, waist of money stuff, bad service!
Hugz, J
Quote from: Doh-Boy on June 09, 2020, 06:36:13 AM
It's my intension to present actual practical and physical examples from history that have been well documented and/or filmed.
Now I guess you have a pretty good grasp of how the Doctors and researchers have been suppressed
O.k., so, you are presenting examples (again words) and you inform (words again).
Cosider, that I am now in full grasp of what you want to transmit with your many words.
What do you want me to do? (Besides reading and looking at videos)
What do you do to combat your grievances? (Besides writing to inform others.)
Greetings, Conrad
Quote from: conradelektro on June 09, 2020, 07:13:05 AM
O.k., so, you are presenting examples (again words) and you inform (words again).
Cosider, that I am now in full grasp of what you want to transmit with your many words.
What do you want me to do? (Besides reading and looking at videos)
What do you do to combat your grievances? (Besides writing to inform others.)
Greetings, Conrad
Hi Conrad depending on which country your based in - it is clear that a common legal and medical line needs to be drawn. I suggest one which not only the great unwashed can pressure but also the medico's themselves, What I have in the back of my mind is we (the population) can possibly help the health services help us and themselves.
Enshrined in law for many years has been the right of 'informed consent' That hangs by a gossamer thread in European law right now. Of course its still to play for in the UK now its exit the EU . I'm as open to suggestions as anyone else . However It seems a good place to draw a line in the sand that might prove defensible. what to do ? open debate - write to MPs make others aware its what I do with grievances but I point out they are not really mine - rather
everyones!, the attack on humanity is international ! everyone and I think you'll find the plan is - forever control
I might be wrong but it also seems to me that increasing numbers of Doctors are also starting to listen to other Doctors and are taking a very hard look at whats going on. do however try and watch some of those links it does join bits together and there is genius to be seen and thats always a pleasure you might like to just regard it as a lot of writing - it equates to a lot of effort on my side.
Perhaps you might understand why I get a bit pissed when the attention span of a crushed ant who can't /won't read or watch just take a swipe for no logical reason . - I guess I'm sorry really we should communicate not thratch. now and again steam just lifts the lid off the pot!
kind regards Duncan
Quote from: Doh-Boy on June 09, 2020, 07:36:30 AM
what to do ? open debate - write to MPs make others aware its what I do with grievances
you might like to just regard it as a lot of writing - it equates to a lot of effort on my side.
Perhaps you might understand why I get a bit pissed when the attention span of a crushed ant who can't /won't read or watch just take a swipe for no logical reason .
Reading, writing, making and watching videos, writing and reading investigative books and articles, all this "freedom of speech" is what the powers of this earth want you to do. It keeps the people busy and happy. It is part of the entertainment industry. After your great effort of writing you go happily to bed thinking you have done something or changed something. And I go happily to bed after reading and watching what you sent to me, also believing I have done something, and even more if I inform others.
Writing, talking, watching and reading (in many parts of the world) are the secure and easy part, that is why you and me are doing it.
Or do you hope that I will really do something decisive to Bill Gates, the inoculators or the "system in general", just because you informed me? Why should I take real risks and you doing only the non dangerous informing?
So, go on doing the useless writing and informing, if it makes you feel good. And I keep from doing something dangerous because I want to live. You do not want to take a real risk to be crashed and I want to be left in peace by the powers to be. Yes, I am sheeple and so are you.
Greetings, Conrad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPnsuaWT5dE
Mags
At first it may seem like something you have heard before, but I think its more as you watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-b5UL1Z3dI
Mags
In the U.S. , as I said, vaccinations are allready as good as required.
But hate is not the required responce.
@ George town university - Dr. Fauchi complete video.
https://ghss.georgetown.edu/pandemicprep2017/#
floor
Context is some times the most important thing.
Starting at 4 minutes and 58 seconds, is the context for the word surprise.
I recommend watching the entire video, then decideing for oneself, who is a cretin and who is not.
floor
Oh dear Floor that was a little below the belt! Of course because of what I had written earlier I was obliged to watch a whole hour of foul cheese. It took a sick bucket but I have achieved.
I'm sure even the most obtuse picked up – 'there most defiantly will be a pandemic in the next administration' – not even lip service to ' a might be'
Its particularly vomit worthy as the horrible old fart expands on aids very possibly another man made horror aided and abetted by foul cheese and his gang. (identified shown and connected by Theodore Strecker and his brother virologist Dr Robert Strecker M.D., Ph.D) just Prior to Teds murder.
Far from being anything of an assist regarding the control and suppression of aids foul cheese did exactly the opposite and was responsible for the spread of the disease to millions. That's explained very Clearly by Prof Dr. Judy Milkovich (5min – 8 min)
(I won't oblige you suffer the whole of something you are abhorrent to)
https://www.bitchute.com/video/aNjeT1G6iGTh/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/aNjeT1G6iGTh/)
Regarding the murder of Theodore Strecker
http://ourworldinbalance.blogspot.com/1990/08/story-of-robert-strecker.html (http://ourworldinbalance.blogspot.com/1990/08/story-of-robert-strecker.html)
In a previous post I humbly suggested you watched a few documentaries one of which was the life Story of Raymond Royal Rife and the stinking part the Rockefeller foundation – foul cheese – the medical ' master race' played in his down fall. Although I'm on a well known FE platform even so some of you reading might not be aware that one of those amazing microscopes survived , all be it in bits it came to the attention of a researcher I'm sure your all well aware of – John C Bedini with the help of the surviving brother Robert Strekker he set about rebuilding Rife's microscope and validating the theories
Again I'd love you to spare the time to watch and listen to the whole documentary particularly as it opens another chapter as 5G enters the arena with targeted murder. Regardless I specifically would like you to listen (6min – 10min)
https://youtu.be/5OYaYT0BuJs (https://youtu.be/5OYaYT0BuJs)
I remind you all a moratorium was applied to this research and foul cheese circumnavigated it by exporting the work and much public money to China – simply a traitor in my opinion along with hells Gates.
These evil sick people need stopping as Conrad points out that is easier said than done. As for me personally staying safe and cosy sure I like the idea too. However -
I'm rather more concerned about how my kids and Grand kids might be forced to live. (if they are allowed to live at all)
Either way I suggest being like an Ostrich with head in the sand isn't constructive . The more people who are aware of this filthy medical Mafia gang and how it interconnects the better
Kind regards Duncan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQcvuftqXFY
Quote from: Johan_1955 on June 10, 2020, 06:56:45 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQcvuftqXFY
Nice clip Johan - The truth is an unstoppable weapon .. got to broadcast this beaut !
kind regards Duncan
Its almost if they are waiting to be told what to do, give me orders, Trauma from School, Army?
If they would understand the verses about: Talents, we would have more FreeThinkers Queer!
CC & Translate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOootAgkWDw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOootAgkWDw)
The TRUTH is unstoppable and setting FREE!
Regards, J
Quote from: Doh-Boy on June 10, 2020, 03:14:01 AM
Oh dear Floor that was a little below the belt!
Lets call it like it is, really shall we, Doh- Boy
Every thing you have had to say in this topic has been defamatory, dishonest, misleading, inflammatory and below the belt.
Quote from: Doh-Boy on June 10, 2020, 03:14:01 AM
I'm sure even the most obtuse picked up – 'there most defiantly will be a pandemic in the next administration' – not even lip service to ' a might be'
Correction - Because your usage of the above Fauchi quote is, UNDENYABLY, Intentionally out of context, in precisely such a manner as to grossly distort the meaning of Fauchi's statements.
You have lost all credibility with me here.
Other viewers saw / can see for their self, that G T university presentation.
At George town university - Dr. Fauchi complete video 2017.
https://ghss.georgetown.edu/pandemicprep2017/#
Although to my mind he is very much representative of and the product of that flawed big pharma / AMA structure, Dr. Fauchi shows himself to be highly informed, impassioned and compassionate.
The video / talk is full of insights and very worth watching for any one engaged and concerned with the questions surrounding vaccination. I'm impressed.
floor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQcvuftqXFY
I don't much care for Bill Gates either. After all the CIA has its very own space at Microsoft.
Think about that.
Consider all of the potential that exists for U.S. security breaches via. internet and then.
Think about that again. Yes of course, CIA / Microsoft, two peas in a pod.
The cartoon is very professionally done.
Starts out with a little truth, but then it runs away to the point of making Bill Gates into an monstrous villein. Something like the devil himself.
Big problem though. In case some folks didn't notice, that's not really Bill Gates, it's just a cartoon !
Unfortunately, it probably also has an emotional impact (for many) nearly equivalent to, as if it were actually Bill Gates.
Strange times were livin in.
floor
Quote from: Floor on June 10, 2020, 01:19:19 PM
Lets call it like it is, really shall we, Doh- Boy
Every thing you have had to say in this topic has been defamatory, dishonest, misleading, inflammatory and below the belt.
Correction - Because your usage of the above Fauchi quote is, UNDENYABLY, Intentionally out of context, in precisely such a manner as to grossly distort the meaning of Fauchi's statements.
You have lost all credibility with me here.
Other viewers saw / can see for their self, that G T university presentation.
At George town university - Dr. Fauchi complete video 2017.
https://ghss.georgetown.edu/pandemicprep2017/#
Although to my mind he is very much representative of and the product of that flawed big pharma / AMA structure, Dr. Fauchi shows himself to be highly informed, impassioned and compassionate.
The video / talk is full of insights and very worth watching for any one engaged and concerned with the questions surrounding vaccination. I'm impressed.
floor
Hi Floor as soon as you demonstrated support for foul cheese you certainly ruined any credibility I might have had in for your scribblings. For the moment like Ken Adachi I'll assume your simply an uninformed boob helping the executioner nail your own coffin together.
The reason isn't based on the man's patter. Its based on his action and particularly his actions as a medical advisor and supposed guardian of the health of the. USA .
(quite apart from the traitorous action of circumnavigating the Governments moratorium on bio weapon virus development) As you might expect my writings are based on informed observation and given a little time I can usually go back to source. (regardless of if you watch it or not – other readers I'm sure do and that's important) Regarding the actions of this bastard Foul cheese I suggest you at least watch this video of Prof Dr. Rashid A. Buttar: (betwixt 5 min – 8min) . (Of course I'd rather you watched the whole thing )
https://www.bitchute.com/video/WGbYHJcMbz8/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/WGbYHJcMbz8/)
Do I think foul Cheese is a compassionate, well intentioned all round 'jolly good egg'?
I do not !!as you say others will make their own minds up. I think you'll find the thumbs up and down on the video say it all! The only sorrow I have is that at 80 years old this traitor won't see much of the deserved jail time. Watch the cafe's ,shops and bar fill up -simple as that --- It has been all along ! Never has been a lock down in Sweden . (which doesn't mean they haven't acted responsibly)
http://www.webbkameror.se/webbkameror/stureplan/index.php (http://www.webbkameror.se/webbkameror/stureplan/index.php)
Foul cheese and his dirty foul hellish Mafia gang ? hang Um high there are millions of dead an maimed on their filthy hands!
Kind regards Duncan
Polly takes a glance at the planned future , She also offers a few video's to watch
https://youtu.be/tGYx2-aYVHw (https://youtu.be/tGYx2-aYVHw)
again I suggest demand and stand on ' Informed consent' - the UK
https://youtu.be/MpmZSUwaM2I (https://youtu.be/MpmZSUwaM2I)
Canada -
https://youtu.be/Q30l-bIwsxs (https://youtu.be/Q30l-bIwsxs)
I also alert you to this 'day of action' regarding Hells Gates Conrad was asking what might be done - here's an answer
https://www.corbettreport.com/ (https://www.corbettreport.com/)
which also of course involves foul cheese as he depended on the false predictive virus mapping financed by Hells Gates ! Which as James tells you is collapsing before your eyes!
https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/covid-19-contact-tracker-training-telling-people-to-quarantine-may-be-mandated-and-enforced?utm_source=LifeSiteNews.com&utm_campaign=7ebc6f8618-UPDATE-FREEDOM-VAX%2BTRACING-UK-6-10-20&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_12387f0e3e-7ebc6f8618-407676754 (https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/covid-19-contact-tracker-training-telling-people-to-quarantine-may-be-mandated-and-enforced?utm_source=LifeSiteNews.com&utm_campaign=7ebc6f8618-UPDATE-FREEDOM-VAX%2BTRACING-UK-6-10-20&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_12387f0e3e-7ebc6f8618-407676754)
Kind regards Duncan
Hey Duncan
QuoteCanada -
https://youtu.be/Q30l-bIwsxs
https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/covid-19-contact-tracker-training-telling-people-to-quarantine-may-be-mandated-and-enforced?utm_source=LifeSiteNews.com&utm_campaign=7ebc6f8618-UPDATE-FREEDOM-VAX%2BTRACING-UK-6-10-20&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_12387f0e3e-7ebc6f8618-407676754
Kind regards Duncan
This seems a little premature considering that in Canada 1) we are civilized people and seem to have the virus under control unlike many other countries, 2) we have never had mandatory vaccinations because that shit don't fly here and 3) there is no vaccine yet.
In fact Canada is doing well and our politicians from all parties have a common consensus to work together in our best interests so please do not drag us into everyone else's misguided drama. Were not like that, never will be, end of story...
Regards
I recognise that hand . nice to hear from you AC . yes like wise in the UK 'informed consent' is the operative wording in law.
I understand that's all but been abandoned in EU law , Which as the UK is -exit now doesn't apply.
Taken to the wire I would guess the law in both our countries probably has a loop hole somewhere . I couldn't imagine a Typhoid Mary (for instance) being allowed to roam about long in either London or Toronto.
The idea I would imagine of presenting those petitions is to reinforce or re-establish the legal basis of 'informed consent' – My understanding being that the individual should have the right to know what's being injected and what the risks are.
I don't want to give the impression I'm anti vaccine , I'm not. I am however anti forced vaccination with untried,untested ,experimental gloop with no legal remedy possible.
As you might imagine I'm not au fait with Canadian law I know the system is based on British "common law" The Charter of Rights and Freedoms with only the Canadian government able to stipulate criminal law.
however I'm assuming there is something concerning the Canadian citizen calling for and presenting this petition .
Kind regards Duncan
How about this from the 60s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90WD_ats6eE&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR0VqnUrdlHDcIqdUxStOZzTuL7bBBscvkI2-AwUWnbGL3TYlgvTCnAGIwc
Polatics now and Covid nuna,nuna 19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aehwEu8SBSo&list=RDaehwEu8SBSo&start_radio=1
Quote from: AlienGrey on June 11, 2020, 06:41:08 AM
How about this from the 60s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90WD_ats6eE&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR0VqnUrdlHDcIqdUxStOZzTuL7bBBscvkI2-AwUWnbGL3TYlgvTCnAGIwc
Polatics now and Covid nuna,nuna 19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aehwEu8SBSo&list=RDaehwEu8SBSo&start_radio=1
No effort , no writing , no comms, I ponder Alien are you literate at all ? - Bob x 2 from the 60s ? --- and howzit with Bob right now? - enjoy -
https://youtu.be/3NbQkyvbw18 (https://youtu.be/3NbQkyvbw18)
humans hold domain over the beast - its god given and needs great care.(its thin ice) whoever your god may be world wide (that btw is a squabble not an issue we all know good from bad I think- right now its that basic)
It perhaps always will be so at some level , extreams then, so what? ? ! Not this time !!! you want a song from the the 60's ? here's what I suggest, I'm not sure how full the belly has to be of - crushed ants ! fooled ? hooked line and sinker comes to mind!but bless some do wake and we all try - it's a very steep hill a push help's. - I suggest most are not fooled this time 'informed consent' - enacted in law. -- then -- fooled again? (me'thinks not) but it is standing on the filth that is you tube -- judge and research yourself . and you Mr grey - want to draw a line in the sand here? oh pease amplify
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkWQEVFKr08 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkWQEVFKr08)
kind regards Duncan
Videos for Doh-Boy, the voice of his master. Many minutes of joy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie6lRKAdvuY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie6lRKAdvuY)
https://www.tagesschau.de/multimedia/video/video-687765.html (https://www.tagesschau.de/multimedia/video/video-687765.html)
Greetings, Conrad
Not Lucy in the skies, but "The MASTER" from GERMAN Parlement we just did learn, thanks VoltGrave?
Invest some time for You and our Germany?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf6vHY8FAr4
Quote from: conradelektro on June 11, 2020, 10:22:31 AM
Videos for Doh-Boy, the voice of his master. Many minutes of joy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie6lRKAdvuY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie6lRKAdvuY)
https://www.tagesschau.de/multimedia/video/video-687765.html (https://www.tagesschau.de/multimedia/video/video-687765.html)
Greetings, Conrad
Master ? I might bow to one but it certainly isn't Hells Gates ! still I did enjoy some of the nonsense of this renowned prick
https://youtu.be/XGnOEa2G7vI (https://youtu.be/XGnOEa2G7vI)
censor tube doesnt ban bty - because its copied and re-issued on many platforms - enjoy
kind regards Duncan
Johan - thank you again ( great pic btw) - you know as well as I -- The truth is the only thing that can stand . So we do fight on ! some I am sure would like the 'head in sand' option whatever anybody can do to stop this phish at any level is IMHO important right now.how about Hells Gates doesn't have anything to do with health medical training -- anything really ? not a single qualification . so in rapid order jack Boot , kick , cannon , fire -- exit stage left -be rid . a Dr of renown Dr. Josef Mengele, the notorious doctor who selected Jews for the gas ... his prey with those dead gimlet eyes, Death to the left, life to the right.- you look at far worse. If you are not scared you bloody should be . I am
kind regards Duncan
Ooh Duncan,
Its the same as 12 years ago with the SchweineGrippe in 2009 in DE, complete exposed, by very good HONEST doktors and they don't read or learn, having maybe on the toilet there Private Gehirn KristalNacht?
Memories, translate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr9OpH7ceYc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr9OpH7ceYc)
Take care, J
P.s. Germany is still not a Souverain state, its still under 1949 Liberator controls, makes it even more ............. so Merkel has to ask permission to?
A question for Doh-Boy, Johann_1855 and other CoVid19 deniers or hoax-accusers:
For a simple man like me, in simple words, what sort of action do you propose:
1. Do nothing, ignore the victims, it is normal that some old people die?
2. Do nothing, because one should not disturb the economy and the normal life of people?
3. Do not inoculate people?
4. Do not bring old dying folks from their home or from care homes to the hospital?
Spare me all the explanations, I just want to know what the government and the doctors should do or not do in your opinion, in simple words, without the accusations. Just like "do this" or "do not do that".
And then I want to know, what you personally are doing:
1. You are not worried, you do what you ever did?
2. You take precautions (like avoiding crowds in the open air, avoiding crowds in rooms, avoiding public transport, avoiding restaurants)?
Greetings, Conrad
Quote from: Doh-Boy on June 11, 2020, 11:15:38 AM
Johan - thank you again ( great pic btw) - you know as well as I -- The truth is the only thing that can stand . So we do fight on ! some I am sure would like the 'head in sand' option whatever anybody can do to stop this phish at any level is IMHO important right now.how about Hells Gates doesn't have anything to do with health medical training -- anything really ? not a single qualification . so in rapid order jack Boot , kick , cannon , fire -- exit stage left -be rid . a Dr of renown Dr. Josef Mengele, the notorious doctor who selected Jews for the gas ... his prey with those dead gimlet eyes, Death to the left, life to the right.- you look at far worse. If you are not scared you bloody should be . I am
kind regards Duncan
It was not Joseph Mengele responsible for that, and read Henry Ford his influence!
But read also what Prescott Bush did do to boost / start the shit.
But also how it did become inflammatory when Churchill did cheat Adolf!
USA and UK have a Big Finger in 1940-45, to boost there own economy after 1929!
Regards Johan
Quote from: conradelektro on June 12, 2020, 05:38:02 AM
A question for Doh-Boy, Johann_1855 and other CoVid19 deniers or hoax-accusers:
For a simple man like me, in simple words, what sort of action do you propose:
1. Do nothing, ignore the victims, it is normal that some old people die?
2. Do nothing, because one should not disturb the economy and the normal life of people?
3. Do not inoculate people?
4. Do not bring old dying folks from their home or from care homes to the hospital?
Spare me all the explanations, I just want to know what the government and the doctors should do or not do in your opinion, in simple words, without the accusations. Just like "do this" or "do not do that".
And then I want to know, what you personally are doing:
1. You are not worried, you do what you ever did?
2. You take precautions (like avoiding crowds in the open air, avoiding crowds in rooms, avoiding public transport, avoiding restaurants)?
Greetings, Conrad
Not so defensive out of fear, trust for a chance?
Corona is dangerous like many, when your fat and ..............., take care off YOU and Yours!
We are talking out of Love to you, your willing to vaccinate, OK so study below the efficiency of the long year Influenza Vaccine development?
WE DON"T WANT TO LOSE YOU, BELOW THE LINE or SOIL!!
Met vriendelijke groet, Johan
What does the patient,the physiant,the WHO,the health system expect from vaccination and their success quote ?
An example season 2018/2019 : influenza,not HIV,not SARS/MERS/CoVid
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pharmazeutische-zeitung.de%2Fwirksamkeit-des-grippeimpfstoffs-war-maessig%2F (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pharmazeutische-zeitung.de%2Fwirksamkeit-des-grippeimpfstoffs-war-maessig%2F)
average : 21% , with great efficiency amplitude
youth : 71% old : only 4-5%
review as meta study over longer periods :
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.der-arzneimittelbrief.de%2Fde%2FArtikel.aspx%3FJ%3D2012%26S%3D09 (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.der-arzneimittelbrief.de%2Fde%2FArtikel.aspx%3FJ%3D2012%26S%3D09)
What do the virologists/epidemiologists expect as CoVid19 vaccination efficiency success for old people ?
#132 : correction,2009 not "swine flu" by genetic view : H1N1 !
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPandemie_H1N1_2009%2F10 (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPandemie_H1N1_2009%2F10)
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tagesspiegel.de%2Fwissen%2Fcoronavirus-in-deutschland-und-der-welt-fast-100-corona-infizierte-auf-spargelhof-in-bayern%2F25560996.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tagesspiegel.de%2Fwissen%2Fcoronavirus-in-deutschland-und-der-welt-fast-100-corona-infizierte-auf-spargelhof-in-bayern%2F25560996.html)
According to UN researchers, the economic consequences of the coronavirus pandemic could plunge another 395 million people into extreme poverty . The total number of people living on less than $ 1.90 a day worldwide could thus rise to more than a billion, according to a study published on Friday by the United Nations University.
Economy with/-out "Lock-down" : 395 million people more to extreme poverty :
what is CoVid19 infection and probably death preserved "life" worth ?
how many dies through CoVid19 "politics" stress,demotivation and social aggressivity reaction more ?
Why not watch a good video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQdLDMLrYIA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQdLDMLrYIA) (yes, they also talk about the Gates foundation and mortality rates)
Greetings, Conrad (I receive millions from the Gates foundation to be a paid agent, and I also get money from some governments and the pharmaceutical industry to mess with your mind)
Two six guns - not just smoking , all twelve shots fired and smoking! - Hells Gates 666 directly tied to Rush .
https://youtu.be/h_waL-VmC_0 (https://youtu.be/h_waL-VmC_0)
as for the salled very good video -- very vomit worthy! Sweden and Japan (for instance) make a very visable lie of this tripe!
http://www.webbkameror.se/webbkameror/stureplan/index.php (http://www.webbkameror.se/webbkameror/stureplan/index.php)
understand I'm not anti vaccine . I am very much against Hells gates untested untried planned gloop with no legal remedy
Kind regards Duncan
people are locked down and so 'herd immunity is not developed' undo lock down what would you expect ? Its akin to a bust fire hitting dry straw.
Kind regards Duncan
Covis deniers or hoax-accusers ??
Its there all right . man manipulated I don't think you see either of us refute that .
A hoax in by the way of a light hearted joke it certainly isn't! either Its got an agenda and stages
https://youtu.be/EGA18p_XerE (https://youtu.be/EGA18p_XerE)
Kind regards Duncan
An article for all the "clever" people who think that face covering (masks, shields) does not help to reduce the spread of CoVid-19. Face masks protect!
https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/06/10/2009637117 (https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/06/10/2009637117)
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Our analysis reveals that the difference with and without mandated face covering represents the determinant in shaping the trends of the pandemic. This protective measure significantly reduces the number of infections. Other mitigation measures, such as social distancing implemented in the United States, are insufficient by themselves in protecting the public.
Our analysis reveals that the difference with and without mandated face covering represents the determinant in shaping the pandemic trends in the three epicenters. This protective measure alone significantly reduced the number of infections, that is, by over 78,000 in Italy from April 6 to May 9 and over 66,000 in New York City from April 17 to May 9.
We conclude that wearing of face masks in public corresponds to the most effective means to prevent interhuman transmission, and this inexpensive practice, in conjunction with extensive testing, quarantine, and contact tracking, poses the most probable fighting opportunity to stop the COVID-19 pandemic, prior to the development of a vaccine.
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There are a lot of false experts talking nonsense in this pandemic. Listen to the real science not to the loudly shouting attention seekers in this forum and on YouTube.
Greetings, Conrad
What to believe, WHO or ............?
Quote from: Johan_1955 on June 13, 2020, 11:32:23 AM
What to believe, WHO or ............?
You believe what reverberates in your echo chamber. You believe what reinforces your opinion. You believe what supports your preconceptions.
It is difficult to see that the world is not simple, fixed and ordered. A moving picture is scary, so you stick to what you think you know. Never learn, never progress, you have your believes.
Greetings, Conrad
Quote from: conradelektro on June 13, 2020, 09:28:50 AM
An article for all the "clever" people who think that face covering (masks, shields) does not help to reduce the spread of CoVid-19. Face masks protect!
https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/06/10/2009637117 (https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/06/10/2009637117)
------------------------------ Citation from the article: --------------------------------------------
Our analysis reveals that the difference with and without mandated face covering represents the determinant in shaping the trends of the pandemic. This protective measure significantly reduces the number of infections. Other mitigation measures, such as social distancing implemented in the United States, are insufficient by themselves in protecting the public.
Our analysis reveals that the difference with and without mandated face covering represents the determinant in shaping the pandemic trends in the three epicenters. This protective measure alone significantly reduced the number of infections, that is, by over 78,000 in Italy from April 6 to May 9 and over 66,000 in New York City from April 17 to May 9.
We conclude that wearing of face masks in public corresponds to the most effective means to prevent interhuman transmission, and this inexpensive practice, in conjunction with extensive testing, quarantine, and contact tracking, poses the most probable fighting opportunity to stop the COVID-19 pandemic, prior to the development of a vaccine.
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There are a lot of false experts talking nonsense in this pandemic. Listen to the real science not to the loudly shouting attention seekers in this forum and on YouTube.
Greetings, Conrad
If you are sick, the mask makes things worse for you. The first thing we should all notice is we are re breathing the last portion of our outward breath, all the heat and humidity in the mask shows this fact, and it will most likely affect the bottom of the lung which does not get much if any fresh air. The virus causes our blood cells to not carry oxygen depending on the proper zinc levels. So the mask makes that situation worse. Then there is the extra resistance causing 'unusual' pressures to the lung tissue that is already suffering if you are sick from the virus. The ventilators have little success rate for this virus because of the very unusual pressures on the lungs. Everyone was screaming "we dont have ventilators!" Then within weeks, everyone that got them found they didnt need as many as they had gotten and sent them elsewhere.
Also all the panic from those that, well you said it here in this post....https://overunity.com/18495/bill-gates-will-he-try-to-force-vaccinate-you-soon/msg546753/#msg546753 (https://overunity.com/18495/bill-gates-will-he-try-to-force-vaccinate-you-soon/msg546753/#msg546753)
"You believe what reverberates in your echo chamber. You believe what reinforces your opinion. You believe what supports your preconceptions." ???
Herd immunity is being suffocated. Our body defense system that enable herd immunity are being suffocated, literally.
The virus death rates are being blown out of proportion, and if what is said is true, these tests just suck. Those numbers are also inflated I believe. If there wasnt such an agenda like Billybob wants to vac everyone, along with track everyone, and also political agendas of the left, we would not have the numbers as scare tactics so they can get their way and take advantage and control of everyone.
I do not know anyone that has nor had this virus let alone anyone that has died. I live in Ft Lauderdale, where in Broward County, we supposedly had second highest rate next to Miami, which has the highest numbers in the state.
So take your quote above and really think on that just a bit.
Mags
The way we were designed to breath, whether it is from the nose or mouth, when we exhale, that air is blown away from the face. When we breath in, we take in the air surrounding our face. The mask impairs that 'design' feature of how we are suppose to breath. And I say design with no pun intended. Rashid Buttar said it best, ABC, Air, Breath and Cardio. Take away any, some or all of those and we dont survive.
Mags
Quote from: Johan_1955 on June 13, 2020, 11:32:23 AM
What to believe, WHO or ............?
Johan : Kontext !
The WHO did not revoke their mask effect and "mask wearing" recommendation,but this organisation did as new experience standart define what for safety as mask ( material use and layer-quantity) and mask washing ( for desinfection/ sterilizing) shall be done !
Mit freundlichem Grusze, an die oranischen Nassauer( ihr verkappten Rhein-Hessen) :D
OCWL
Coronaphobia. Why?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YudUqjWd97g
Mags
Wear Face Masks. Why?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_DLMc9Um1I
Mags
Quote from: Magluvin on June 13, 2020, 02:44:25 PM
Coronaphobia. Why?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YudUqjWd97g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YudUqjWd97g)
Mags
Let us go 3 months back :
Infection preview risc in numbers related strong illness/emergency cases related ventilator systems in quantity
Panic ! is seldom a good political advicer !
2009 :H1N1 WHO worst case death preview : 7,4 mio. cases
2020 review : different numbers
WHO lab-confirmed : 18449 death cases ~ 0,25% from the worst case scenario !
CDC : 284000 death cases world-wide average estimation ~ 3,8 % from the worst case scenario
CDC : 151,700 - 575,400 death cases world-wide estmation spread
The problem by such high numbers spread : has the treatment been effective ?
Have we had to spent 100 financial units for 1000 financial/economical worth saving ?Or did we have to spent 1000 financial units for 1000 financial/economical units to save ?Or more expenses than savings ?
Study: Coronavirus May Have Begun in August
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXhj-g6JNmE
Mags
Printing Propaganda—China Paid US Media Millions
https://overunity.com/18495/bill-gates-will-he-try-to-force-vaccinate-you-soon/135/post/last_msg/546773/
Mags
Hi Mags -- something a bit awry with your link - please check it I like reading your stuff - meanwhile back at the ranch
Accurate information – couldn't agree more ! Lets take a few professors instead of some non elected prick who has helped corrupted the international health systems out of all recognition as ' a public service'
https://youtu.be/XGnOEa2G7vI (https://youtu.be/XGnOEa2G7vI)
The first thing to notice is Gates 'donation ' to imperial collage London for the worthless cooked up figures that were essential to implement lock step.
Figures that an A level maths student can work out as wildly inaccurate never mind our health Mafia world rulers . Lets see what happens then if we do listen to some real experts I invite you to watch Professor Andrew Mather
https://youtu.be/nZ-7gIhZUJ0?t=522 (https://youtu.be/nZ-7gIhZUJ0?t=522)
Its becoming very apparent to anybody who cares to get there heads out of the sand that there is massive corruption and prostitution of public services being carried out.
There perhaps is a case to be made for health professionals wearing face masks. Anything associated with Hells Gates is of course Bollix.
The very real dangers of wearing masks is supported by a huge list of expert evidence listed under this documentary
https://www.bitchute.com/video/QIFVE2dADl7k/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/QIFVE2dADl7k/)
I see Conrad advocates the wearing of masks on the basis of 'we' and 'us' I wonder would he like to amplify that ? as people are waking up and its clear the ' we and us' are going to need a different uniform soon.
A bow tie that spins, a plastic rose that squirts water , different coloured shoes one red and one yellow ,one of them huge , and a car that falls to bits in the middle of the ring!
I guess the – 'us and we' are going to cling onto this BS presented by main stream lick spittle's at Kill Bill's behest and not believe professionals and professors in the field. The hells Gates and Foul cheese Vaccine kitchen --
https://youtu.be/7XjXt09XSr0 (https://youtu.be/7XjXt09XSr0)
Kind regards Duncan
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016817021000016X (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016817021000016X)
Abstract:
Anti-coronaviral activity of a mixture of oleoresins and essential oils from botanicals, designated QR448(a), was examined in vitro[/i] and in vivo[/i]. Treatment of avian infectious bronchitis virus (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/immunology-and-microbiology/avian-infectious-bronchitis-virus) (IBV) with QR448(a) reduced the virus titer (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/immunology-and-microbiology/viral-load)as measured in two laboratory host systems, Vero E6 cells and embryonating eggs. The effect of QR448(a) on IBV in chickens was also investigated. Administering QR448(a) to chickens at a 1:20 dilution by spray, 2 h before challenge with IBV was determined to be the most effective treatment. Treatment decreased the severity of clinical signs and lesions in the birds, and lowered the amount of viral RNA (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/virus-rna) in the trachea (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/trachea). Treatment with QR448(a) protected chickens for up to 4 days post-treatment from clinical signs of disease (but not from infection) and decreased transmission of IBV over a 14-day period. Anti-IBV activity of QR448(a) was greater prior to virus attachment and entry indicating that the effect is virucidal. In addition, QR448(a) had activity against both Massachusetts and Arkansas type IB viruses, indicating that it can be expected to be effective against IBV regardless of serotype (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/immunology-and-microbiology/serotype). To our knowledge, this is the first report on the in vivo[/i] use of a virucidal mixture of compounds effective against the coronavirus (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/immunology-and-microbiology/coronavirinae) IBV.
Do we or us watch FOX news? Are we some right-wing fringe groups and pundits?
In a survey in late May conducted by Yahoo News and YouGov
( https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2020/05/26/republicans-democrats-misinformation (https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2020/05/26/republicans-democrats-misinformation) ),
28% of Americans said they thought the conspiracy theory was true, while 44% of Republicans and 50% of people who primarily watch Fox News viewers said they thought it was true. (By contrast, 61% of people who primarily watch MSNBC said it was false.)
Let us see what Bill Gates has to say. Letting the accused speak is an old tradition amongst us and we should follow this tradition:
https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-vaccine-conspiracy-theories-are-stupid-2020-6?r=DE&IR=T (https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-vaccine-conspiracy-theories-are-stupid-2020-6?r=DE&IR=T)
And we must read this bit of information, Bill Gates in Australia, it proves everything to us:
https://factcheck.afp.com/hoax-circulates-australian-10-notes-feature-images-coronavirus-and-bill-gates (https://factcheck.afp.com/hoax-circulates-australian-10-notes-feature-images-coronavirus-and-bill-gates)
Greetings, Conrad
CoVid19 : emergency case : two months treatment , 18400 USD costs per day bill
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2FKrankenhaus-schickt-Millionenrechnung-article21844585.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2FKrankenhaus-schickt-Millionenrechnung-article21844585.html)
After about two months of treatment for his severe Covid-19 disease, a clinic near Seattle presented a bill to a 70-year-old US citizen of over a million dollars. His heart "almost stopped for the second time" when he received the 181-page bill of $ 1,122,501.04 (around € 997,000), Michael Flor said on Saturday of the "Seattle Times".
MICROSOFT headquarter ?
https://www.aerzteblatt.de/archiv/43690/Krankenhaus-Management-Kompetenzzentren-sind-zukunftstraechtig#:~:text=Dr.,92%20Prozent%20der%20%C3%BCbrigen%20Patienten. (https://www.aerzteblatt.de/archiv/43690/Krankenhaus-Management-Kompetenzzentren-sind-zukunftstraechtig#:~:text=Dr.,92%20Prozent%20der%20%C3%BCbrigen%20Patienten.)
A cost analysis at the university clinic and polyclinic for surgeons
of the Ludwig Maximilians University in Munich (responsible for DRG: Prof. Dr. med.Arend Billing) showed: The costs of the intensive care unit per day are on average 1,050 euros, 11,500 euros per case. In intensive care units in hospitals of the maximum care level, eight percent of the patients consume as much resources (costs) as the 92 percent of the other patients.
https://www.springermedizin.de/kosten-der-intensivmedizinischen-versorgung-in-einem-deutschen-k/8003720 (https://www.springermedizin.de/kosten-der-intensivmedizinischen-versorgung-in-einem-deutschen-k/8003720)
The data from 407 patients (217 male and 190 female) were included in the analysis. Of the examined, 159 patients (100 male, 59 female) were ventilated temporarily or continuously. The Simplified Acute Physiology Score (SAPS) II value at the beginning of the stay in the intensive care unit (ITS) was 28.2 on average. The average cost / ITS day was EUR 1265, for ITS days without mechanical ventilation EUR 1145 and EUR 1426 for ITS days with mechanical ventilation. Personnel costs (50%) are the largest cost factors before medical costs (18%) and infrastructure costs (16%).
1.050 for ITS - up to 1.426 EUR for ITS with mechanical ventilation per day
Seattle bill : $ 9736 per day in the intensive care unit
+ $ 100,000 for his care as an acutely endangered patient.
ITS room ventilator : model Draeger costs per "high tech"-unit : 50.000 Euros
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.welt.de%2Fwirtschaft%2Farticle206603525%2FBeatmungsgeraete-Draeger-soll-10-000-Stueck-in-kuerzester-Zeit-bauen.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.welt.de%2Fwirtschaft%2Farticle206603525%2FBeatmungsgeraete-Draeger-soll-10-000-Stueck-in-kuerzester-Zeit-bauen.html)
200 mio EUR listprice/10 000 units = 20 000 EUR listprice per ITS ventilator unit
Industry experts estimate the order to be up to 200 million euros. The devices are said to be sold to the federal government at list prices.
Dräger is the inventor of medical ventilation and, with its proprietary software, occupies an important position in these devices worldwide. But the devices last ten years and longer, the exchange or the new acquisition usually does not affect an annual production in this dimension.
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aerzteblatt.de%2Fblog%2F112179%2FBeatmungsgeraet-Marke-Eigenbau-fuer-COVID-19-fuer-67-Euro (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aerzteblatt.de%2Fblog%2F112179%2FBeatmungsgeraet-Marke-Eigenbau-fuer-COVID-19-fuer-67-Euro)
Okay,limited use for this low cost DIY-kit,but it shows that basic functions are easy and to low cost conditioning realizeable :
In practice, however, the device could only be used in patients with mild breathlessness. Most seriously ill COVID-19 patients require mechanical ventilation, in which the device takes over the breathing activity of the usually sedated, intubated patients. There is probably no hardware store solution for this situation.
But there are today,beside CoVid19 cases,many old people whose need breath help,so we see cheaper solutions,beside high margin(1000% and more) industrial ready-to-use offer !
50 000 EUR/20 000 EUR Draeger high tech ITS ventilator - 2500 EUR basic medical ventilator - 67 EUR DIY-kit
Without anymore utility model( 10 years validity)/technical patent(20 years validity) rights these 50 000/2500 EUR industrial machines are in minimum 80% cheaper to produce and offer !
80% less costs for the social health system ! By growing old people demography !
Seattle bill : $ 82,000 for the 29-day use of a ventilator
means : over 1 000 000 USD per year machine use payment ::)
from patent archiv technical standart machine prices view : 100 times too high !
Comparing today conventional medical lease (calculating without quantity discount ! = up to 50%),warranty time ! :
Draeger model (calculating with 50 000 EUR) lease : 56250 USD /12 months ( 1 year amortization) = 4687,5 USD per month + lease fee ::) / bill: 82 000 USD for 29 days use
2 years 2343,8 USD per month + lease fee
3 years 1562,5 USD per month + lease fee
10 years 468,8 USD per month + lease fee
with 20 000 EUR Draeger listprice costs and 10 years amortization 187,5 USD per month + lease fee / bill: 82 000 USD for 29 days use
Do we need .beside 24/365 policemen work observation, also 24/365 emergency room service observation camera and video recording ?
And medical care bills observation and controle,copying and archivation, associations ? This are all comercial service contracts !
Physiants and nurses are estatal or private "service sellers" ! And we ever "service buyers" ! With all rights and obligations,both sides !
With lawfull limitation periods over decades ! Service quality and operation legality related !
90% costs/prices decrease in the U.S.- health system is possible and a better expenses controlling
fast introduceable ! 181 pages bill to hide 2/3 not health related expenses ! System "Comfort" costs !
btw : Medicare-patient,in the U.S.A. we can assume actually 50 millions habitants without insurance protection !
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bote.ch%2Fnachrichten%2Finternational%2Fmassen-verlieren-krankenversicherung-in-usa%3Bart46446%2C1240841 (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bote.ch%2Fnachrichten%2Finternational%2Fmassen-verlieren-krankenversicherung-in-usa%3Bart46446%2C1240841)
Change propably only after 2022 :
have the multimillions (then many millions homeless !?) US american disemployed people the patience/the goods for this economical wait period ?
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwirtschaft%2FStaroekonom-Roubini-sagt-lange-Krise-voraus-article21845091.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwirtschaft%2FStaroekonom-Roubini-sagt-lange-Krise-voraus-article21845091.html)
Before CoVid19 ,4.th industrial Evolution : up to 1/2 or 50% worker -white and blue collar- overcapacity ,
during CoVid19: the empty cities and factories as future vision
here is a huge and accurate 'overview' for those in the slightest doubt of the direction of kill Bill Hells Gates Gates. Take your time and absorbe what you need to to see through the fakery .
https://www.bitchute.com/video/MYHTpUW9KAXQ/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/MYHTpUW9KAXQ/)
Kind regards Duncan
Quote from: Doh-Boy on June 15, 2020, 04:46:06 AM
here is a huge and accurate 'overview' for those in the slightest doubt of the direction of kill Bill Hells Gates Gates. Take your time and absorbe what you need to to see through the fakery .
https://www.bitchute.com/video/MYHTpUW9KAXQ/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/MYHTpUW9KAXQ/)
Kind regards Duncan
Duncan, Duncan, what a bummer! Janet Ossebaard is an entertainer who makes a living from strange theories.
You have to realise that the conspiracy scene is part of the entertainment industry, like the UFO sighters and publishers. Then there are the alternative healers, the fortune tellers, magicians, the whole esoteric scene and many more, not to forget the OU-machines.
If you do not get paid or do not make some money from your endeavours, you are doing something wrong. If it is worthwhile for you, keep up the work.
Greetings, Conrad
Quote from: conradelektro on June 15, 2020, 05:52:03 AM
Duncan, Duncan, what a bummer! Janet Ossebaard is an entertainer who makes a living from strange theories.
You have to realise that the conspiracy scene is part of the entertainment industry, like the UFO sighters and publishers. Then there are the alternative healers, the fortune tellers, magicians, the whole esoteric scene and many more, not to forget the OU-machines.
If you do not get paid or do not make some money from your endeavours, you are doing something wrong. If it is worthwhile for you, keep up the work.
Greetings, Conrad
Money making you write, did you read the Post from Lanca above: $1,100,000!
Just one example so Again: Look at YOURSELF?
Greetings Johan
Read a TESTED cure for Corona and no Mercury involved!!
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016817021000016X (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016817021000016X)
Abstract:
Anti-coronaviral activity of a mixture of oleoresins and essential oils from botanicals, designated QR448(a), was examined in vitro[/i] and in vivo[/i]. Treatment of avian infectious bronchitis virus (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/immunology-and-microbiology/avian-infectious-bronchitis-virus) (IBV) with QR448(a) reduced the virus titer (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/immunology-and-microbiology/viral-load)as measured in two laboratory host systems, Vero E6 cells and embryonating eggs. The effect of QR448(a) on IBV in chickens was also investigated. Administering QR448(a) to chickens at a 1:20 dilution by spray, 2 h before challenge with IBV was determined to be the most effective treatment. Treatment decreased the severity of clinical signs and lesions in the birds, and lowered the amount of viral RNA (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/virus-rna) in the trachea (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/trachea). Treatment with QR448(a) protected chickens for up to 4 days post-treatment from clinical signs of disease (but not from infection) and decreased transmission of IBV over a 14-day period. Anti-IBV activity of QR448(a) was greater prior to virus attachment and entry indicating that the effect is virucidal. In addition, QR448(a) had activity against both Massachusetts and Arkansas type IB viruses, indicating that it can be expected to be effective against IBV regardless of serotype (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/immunology-and-microbiology/serotype). To our knowledge, this is the first report on the in vivo[/i] use of a virucidal mixture of compounds effective against the coronavirus (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/immunology-and-microbiology/coronavirinae) IBV.
Quote from: Johan_1955 on June 15, 2020, 06:43:11 AM
Money making you write, did you read the Post from Lanca above: $1,100,000!
Just one example so Again: Look at YOURSELF?
Greetings Johan
Looking at myself I see a consumer of the entertainment industry, and specially a consumer of the fringe of this industry.
What is an industry without consumers? The consumers, thee entertained, are the target in the entertainment industry. Doh-Boy and Johan-1855 are even fans, not only silent consumers, they adore their stars in the industry. They might even be paying members of some fan club.
Consumerism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumerism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumerism) is the heart of the worldwide economy.
Greetings, Conrad
Quote from: conradelektro on June 15, 2020, 07:10:37 AM
Looking at myself I see a consumer of the entertainment industry, and specially a consumer of the fringe of this industry.
What is an industry without consumers? The consumers, thee entertained, are the target in the entertainment industry. Doh-Boy and Johan-1855 are even fans, not only silent consumers, they adore their stars in the industry. They might even be paying members of some fan club.
Consumerism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumerism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumerism) is the heart of the worldwide economy.
Greetings, Conrad
A 'Healty' Vaccine for your entertainment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkLM1hnVJZg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkLM1hnVJZg)
Quote from: conradelektro on June 15, 2020, 05:52:03 AMnot to forget the OU-machines.
So your angry on Ross for your not working Aquarium, try this: 10x10 ltr going up, connected with 10x2 ltr. going down.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU8Oid56xktO9aNmZAceZdw (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU8Oid56xktO9aNmZAceZdw)
Just trying to help, don't be so .........
Greetings Johan
#157 : Johan,but think : you are pro or contra these political treatment but not you but someone in your family,
without medical insurance,
becomes ill,emergency room treatment case,
are you willing to pay for him/her such a bill quantity/sum,
or is - by national law- this probably an obligation : family( grands/uncles/aunts/ parents ....) care and financial responsibility ?!
#154 : 5he US Congress 100 millions USD medicare help : will only be enough for 99 of 2 months intensive care such cases
99 x 2 months ~ 16,5 years intensive care for 1 patient,100 millions USD costs
remembering Jo Deckarm,KOMA :131 days ,bill sum ?
MfG
OCWL
A Beauty of a GUY: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgAQIdbWGR0
Why not RNA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlV_aR4995I
Great videos Johan – right on the button! A new word learnt too 'democide' I regard all of these Doctors Nurses and health care professionals who speak the truth loud and clear as hero's.
For over three months now I have been writing and protesting on every platform I can . The one hundred monkey experiment results indicate to me that at some point just one more Monkey might be needed to tip the balance and wake up billions of people.
I'm kinda hoping Conrad might be that Monkey . I'll let this alert Dutch girl Janet Ossenbaard explain that to you, If Conrad you understand how you might well be that 'critical monkey' that creates mental action at a distance (that Einstein once described as 'spooky') then light will be introduced into your darkness – Viva la Monkeys ! Conrad. What say you ? you could prove
"What one fool can do, another can." –
Ancient Simian Proverb.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/uLjNTb1znGjv/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/uLjNTb1znGjv/)
Kind regards Duncan
In writing for your information
https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/ (https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/)
in vision and and blatent obvious practice
http://www.webbkameror.se/webbkameror/stureplan/index.php (http://www.webbkameror.se/webbkameror/stureplan/index.php)
kind regards Duncan
Quote from: Doh-Boy on June 17, 2020, 02:51:31 AM
Viva la Monkeys ! Conrad. What say you ? you could prove
"What one fool can do, another can." –
Ancient Simian Proverb.
Kind regards Duncan
Duncan wins!
Not every fool or monkey can do what some others can.
I can not spend as much time as Duncan to spread my version of the truth. Therefore I quit, Duncan has won the contest of monkeys and fools.
I have nothing to prove, reality is unfolding by itself without me.
Greetings, Conrad
Quote from: conradelektro on June 17, 2020, 04:59:57 AM
Duncan wins!
seems as usual you haven't watched the information presented and also are unaware of the quotation from Mathematics professor and veteran alternative energy researcher Silvanus P Thompson .
There is no question of Duncan winning or losing – there quite simply is no competition.
All there is (as the monkeys demonstrate) is one of the most powerful weapons – The truth, and yes it really does taste better!
Kind regards Duncan
We bring the food, the eating and digesting is on them.
Like written in many Old books, search Truly and Humble you will find.
They have to invest in there selves, they will find when still open, to many closed minds. Alu?
Famous for only Holidays for the most where I live, and yes some are more awake!
Translate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZMTRxxbdB8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZMTRxxbdB8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wQx-BjmfJk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wQx-BjmfJk)
Must watch
Mags
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvf4eBK0wDg
Mags
Where it did go wrong and still:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQVWse9nZcM
Regards, Johan
See already in: March 2019, Barcelona, Spain
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-spain-science-idUSKBN23X2HQ (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-spain-science-idUSKBN23X2HQ)
And already in: 2013, Canada
https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/science/covid-19-may-have-been-infecting-humans-since-2013-study/article31932192.ece (https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/science/covid-19-may-have-been-infecting-humans-since-2013-study/article31932192.ece)
Regards, Johan
About margins :
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.manager-magazin.de%2Funternehmen%2Fartikel%2Fremdesivir-covid-heilmittel-von-gilead-staatlich-finanziert-a-1307403.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.manager-magazin.de%2Funternehmen%2Fartikel%2Fremdesivir-covid-heilmittel-von-gilead-staatlich-finanziert-a-1307403.html)
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/would-be-coronavirus-drugs-are-cheap-make (https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/would-be-coronavirus-drugs-are-cheap-make)
Manufacturing cost of potential coronavirus drugs Though most drugs currently in clinical trials to fight COVD-19 can be made cheaply, they can sell for hundreds of times the price.
Drug
Estimated cost price (course)
Estimated cost price (day) $0.93 Remdesivir (10 days) $9
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.heise.de%2Ftp%2Ffeatures%2FPharmakonzern-legt-Preis-fuer-Remdesivir-auf-390-US-Dollar-pro-Ampulle-fest-4799521.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.heise.de%2Ftp%2Ffeatures%2FPharmakonzern-legt-Preis-fuer-Remdesivir-auf-390-US-Dollar-pro-Ampulle-fest-4799521.html)
Due to the emergency approval, Gilead Sciences has now set the selling price for Remdesivir, (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&pto=aue&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://stories.gilead.com/articles/an-open-letter-from-daniel-oday-june-29&usg=ALkJrhj-5-wlaNkzaV-DIfSZRj1A2CFdnA) demonstrating that profit is most important. In the United States and other industrialized countries,
5-day treatment is expected to cost $ 2,340 per patient with health insurance from July ($ 390 per ampoule) and private patients are expected to pay $ 3,120.
$ 7,520 is due for 10-day treatment.
Here is some interesting stuff.. Ive wondered if Billybob was in bed with the CV outbreak. So I think we have some possible connections here.
First i just read this article on FoxNews...
https://www.foxnews.com/world/how-much-of-the-united-states-does-china-really-own (https://www.foxnews.com/world/how-much-of-the-united-states-does-china-really-own)
Half way down the page you can read this below list of companies here in the US that china either owns or has majority stake in...."These include: AMC Entertainment (entertainment), Cirrus Wind Energy (energy), Complete Genomics (health care), First International Oil (energy), G.E. Appliances (technology), IBM—P.C. division (technology), Legendary Entertainment Group (entertainment), Motorola Mobility (technology), Nexteer Automotive (automotive), Riot Games (entertainment), Smithfield Foods (food), Teledyne Continental Motors and Mattituck Services (aerospace), Terex Corp. (machinery), Triple H Coal (mining), Zonare Medical Systems (health care)."
So in that list is.... Complete Genomics (health care)
Immediately I searched "Complete Genomics Bill Gates" and I got this....https://globalprojects.ucsf.edu/sponsor/bill-melinda-gates-foundation (https://globalprojects.ucsf.edu/sponsor/bill-melinda-gates-foundation)
Complete Genomics is on the list.
Not saying Billy is in bed with setting off CV, but the more I dig, things seem likely. He wants the mandatory vacs soo bad, and considering some of the things we have found, I wouldnt put it past him to help cause the outbreak. I mean, if he is willing to destroy and/or reshape our lives with vacs, then why not delve into things like the pandemic even if it kills people. Like that is probably the big scheme to scare everyone into submission.
I dont think this thing is re surging all on its own. I think one of 2 things. In places that relaxed the lock downs, they either (1) send in people to purposely infect people in those areas, or (2) the more they test, the more numbers there are, as testing seems to be increasing in numbers as this all goes along. Just because people test positive doesnt mean they were physically sick and/or died/almost died.
Now China says there is another form of sars. Now if they are doing it all intentionally, hitting us with another version may overcome any resistance we had gained from CV. This is all a very scary situation the world is in. The ideas of what some powerful people have for us all becomes a very real thing. Something one would think from a movie, but in real life now. A second round of something different may render the populace to its knees when it comes to mandatory vac acceptance. Down right dirty.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/03/26/fact-check-bill-gates-backed-pandemic-exercise-didnt-predict-covid-19/5081854002/
Mags
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Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on July 01, 2020, 10:08:45 PM
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Nothing to say or share, like most, see the Hole of this one?
https://vimeo.com/235734339 (https://vimeo.com/235734339)
Quote from: Johan_1955 on July 02, 2020, 07:52:34 AM
Nothing to say or share, like most, see the Hole of this one?
https://vimeo.com/235734339 (https://vimeo.com/235734339)
Sorry, i have to delete it cause it might get bill gates to
Get mad, your not lucky to read it, just try next time ok. ;)
What they did prepare:
Oh, science a 360 turn!?
https://twitter.com/JohnBWellsCTM/status/1279036203451416576?fbclid=IwAR0Ki9k5RSLNgb9qEiU4IRdjjSw_UqtuA1oaxhQnnk7BZzVGlg4uejdaSTY (https://twitter.com/JohnBWellsCTM/status/1279036203451416576?fbclid=IwAR0Ki9k5RSLNgb9qEiU4IRdjjSw_UqtuA1oaxhQnnk7BZzVGlg4uejdaSTY)
Also GREAT video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRlPPzydSyM
Johan,
yes truly great info ...especially info on World health organization now saying Asymptomatic persons not
spreaders of virus.{would be nice to see supporting data they refer to from Singapore [we have some members there I want to call anyway.
thx again
Chet
ps,your Links again
https://twitter.com/JohnBWellsCTM/status/1279036203451416576?fbclid=IwAR0Ki9k5RSLNgb9qEiU4IRdjjSw_UqtuA1oaxhQnnk7BZzVGlg4uejdaSTY (https://twitter.com/JohnBWellsCTM/status/1279036203451416576?fbclid=IwAR0Ki9k5RSLNgb9qEiU4IRdjjSw_UqtuA1oaxhQnnk7BZzVGlg4uejdaSTY)
From USA, all the Panic seems because of a Bad chosen / not valid PCR test:
Read a comment on an article where a guy was told by his doctor that they sent out 4 'unused' test strips and they came up positive. :o
Right now I think its all about the election. Scaring everyone to do mail in ballots and also to have an excuse for Biden not to do rallies and not to have to debate Trump face to face, at least. If they had an at home debate, ole joe would be reading a teleprompter with someone else's words.
Mags
Making Up what they want, but not Science:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/06/200610094112.htm (https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/06/200610094112.htm) to be or not to be : negative ! ::) or : positive ???
Some are Brave, some are Purchasing Toilet Paper:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK7P6IbARzo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK7P6IbARzo)
Payed by us in the EU: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnwPpYY8kJ0
The Best website for the True figures: https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/ (https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/)
Regards, Johan
Quote from: Johan_1955 on July 15, 2020, 12:22:35 PM
The Best website for the True figures: https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/ (https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/)
Regards, Johan
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I do not believe these curves.
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But then, if one has a look at the root of your SWPRS site, where it says that the Western allies deliberately poison gassed the Syrians to give them an excuse to go in, that is not so surprising.
Quote from: Johan_1955 on July 07, 2020, 04:51:59 AM
Making Up what they want, but not Science:
That is just like the Dr. that decided to fake up 4 tests and gave a random name to see what happened. They all 4 came back positive. So this simply means that the test is flawed or contaminated already. No wonder the total cases is so damn high. All the lies.
Billy boy stands to lose a lot of money if no vax is used. Well, we do not need one anyhow. So many other readily available options that work but do not make money. Just like Royal Rife, the cancer cure that wasn't. No money in it so couldn't have that.
Quote from: Paul-R on July 15, 2020, 05:49:15 PM
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I do not believe these curves.
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But then, if one has a look at the root of your SWPRS site, where it says that the Western allies deliberately poison gassed the Syrians to give them an excuse to go in, that is not so surprising.
Dear Paul,
Feel free to think and do what you want!
Some proof out of India and more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbfOFIYLzvI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbfOFIYLzvI)
We have seen also some proof, that when you use a PCR test, you will have found mostly OU >1 found!
See: https://www.naturstoff-medizin.de/artikel/der-pcr-test-und-die-tricks-von-correctiv/ (https://www.naturstoff-medizin.de/artikel/der-pcr-test-und-die-tricks-von-correctiv/)
Beside: http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=210403 (http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=210403)
Best regards, Johan
The PCR-Pseudo tool used by World-Wide Science groupies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uana-QIQJaQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uana-QIQJaQ)
Regards, Johan
History is repeating:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gye6JDph4Ro
Regards, Johan
Thanks to Fake Science, with very BAD PCR tests!
Well ,they just lost in the Supreme Court that a vaccine cannot be mandatory. Cannot be ruled medically safe or effective. So there, take that one B Gates and Fouchi and the Drug companies. No proffits this time ass wipes.
JUST SAY NO! IT IS YOUR RIGHT.
Thaelin
QuoteWell ,they just lost in the Supreme Court that a vaccine cannot be mandatory. Cannot be ruled medically safe or effective. So there, take that one B Gates and Fouchi and the Drug companies. No proffits this time ass wipes.
JUST SAY NO! IT IS YOUR RIGHT.
I don't believe Gates said the vaccine should be mandatory and Fauci just said it shouldn't be mandatory on the news just a few days ago. It's just another bs conspiracy theory because if for any reason it was ever made mandatory it would open up a massive amount of liability. So if anyone claimed it was safe and it wasn't and did any damage to anyone people would sue them into oblivion.
People need to start thinking before they start peddling these nonsensical conspiracy theories in my opinion.
In fact mandatory or large scale vaccinations and herd immunity is kind of a joke. If 100% of people were vaccinated but it was only 60% effective which is high on the scale it still leaves 40% infected before it mutates. Obviously mandatory 100% vaccination rates still don't work because nature is infinitely smarter than people.
Another question is your claim, "Well ,they just lost in the Supreme Court that a vaccine cannot be mandatory."... who are they, specifically?.
Regards
Why the PCR-test is not valid for its job:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y1KzCKrZ3A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y1KzCKrZ3A)
Quote from: onepower on August 22, 2020, 07:31:58 PM
Thaelin
I don't believe Gates said the vaccine should be mandatory and Fauci just said it shouldn't be mandatory on the news just a few days ago. It's just another bs conspiracy theory because if for any reason it was ever made mandatory it would open up a massive amount of liability. So if anyone claimed it was safe and it wasn't and did any damage to anyone people would sue them into oblivion.
People need to start thinking before they start peddling these nonsensical conspiracy theories in my opinion.
In fact mandatory or large scale vaccinations and herd immunity is kind of a joke. If 100% of people were vaccinated but it was only 60% effective which is high on the scale it still leaves 40% infected before it mutates. Obviously mandatory 100% vaccination rates still don't work because nature is infinitely smarter than people.
Another question is your claim, "Well ,they just lost in the Supreme Court that a vaccine cannot be mandatory."... who are they, specifically?.
Regards
I guess you are not aware of the law passed years ago that gives vaccine manufacturers total immunity from lawsuits? Which is why vaccine makers have NO incentive to make them safe. They are totally protected. Another case of big Pharma money buying laws made to suit them.
The state of Virginia is making a mandate to force vaccinate every resident of the state. This is of course the state that is trying to kill their 2nd amendment rights to defend their selves.
Quote from: Thaelin on August 22, 2020, 08:51:34 AM
Well ,they just lost in the Supreme Court that a vaccine cannot be mandatory. Cannot be ruled medically safe or effective. So there, take that one B Gates and Fouchi and the Drug companies. No proffits this time ass wipes.
JUST SAY NO! IT IS YOUR RIGHT.
Could you point to where you found this good info? I'm not seeing a recent ruling in a Google search.
How the IMF did press /purchase the poor Countries in a National LockDown, and so even more Killing of there own people!
https://www.imf.org/en/Topics/imf-and-covid19/COVID-Lending-Tracker?fbclid=IwAR3nUiGnITPzW3RkPNchQ5_OvV8wbVzeMPHMpgvRxdQQoGUmzUco8s_lTNg#EUR (https://www.imf.org/en/Topics/imf-and-covid19/COVID-Lending-Tracker?fbclid=IwAR3nUiGnITPzW3RkPNchQ5_OvV8wbVzeMPHMpgvRxdQQoGUmzUco8s_lTNg#EUR)
This while in Wuhan / China is having BigParty times, no Distance or Masks!
E2matrix
Most civilized countries do allow lawsuits against vaccine manufacturers. Canada does and some provinces even have vaccine injury programs for compensation.
Regards
onepower, Dr. Fauci (pronounced Foul Cheese) got the immunity for vaccine makers back in 1986 in the U.S. They are pushing to get this immunity from liability worldwide - other countries may follow if they get prodded ($$) enough. Follow the money and you will start to see what's really going on.
BTW Gates is pushing to get $800 Billion for vaccines. That is more than our country's entire military defense budget.
E2matrix
Your peddling more bs again.
First Dr. Fauci has nothing to do with the legislation that I can find.
Second, it took me all of 5 minutes to find that while there are restrictions on direct law suits against vaccine makers they do have a vaccine injury compensation program just like Canada.
All the vaccine makers contribute to the injury program so in fact they do address liability claims indirectly. Apparently they have paid out over 4 billion since the program was started.
As well the vaccine makers also avoid liability by using warnings and disclaimers. Ergo, use at your own risk and use is not mandatory. Therefore large numbers of frivolous lawsuits are not warranted and do cause harm.
You however are liable for your gross misrepresentations of the facts and slander. I get it, your a trump flunky and whatever he says is gospel however its nonsense. I would like to see more lawsuits against people like you, holding you responsible for lying to the public which does do harm.
Regards
You obviously have Trump Derangement syndrome and probably just believe the mainstream media which is totally controlled by a few individuals and the C I A. You probably just use the highly censored Google search engine also which will eliminate a lot of the real truth. You sound like a typical stupid liberal - if you can't stand the truth then burn them down or sue them into oblivion. Pathetic. You don't have a clue. I assume you would like to get rid of the First Amendment to the Constitution - freedom of speech also. Probably want to eliminate the 2nd also?
Your words : " there are restrictions on direct law suits against vaccine makers" exactly - you have to play by their rules to get any compensation.
I didn't say you can't sue them but it is extremely difficult to win. They have protections in place. I'd show you the proof of what I say but I'm not going to waste more time on trying to change someone's beliefs as that rarely works unless they want to find the truth their self. So go ahead and believe what you want. [/size]
This country will get run into the ground by DemonCrats. Actually it is already there in much of the West coast. You and others like you will suffer the consequences if people like you don't wake up and start taking action against all the corruption and lies being peddled.
For those not afraid to take a peek down the rabbit hole:
https://www.brighteon.com/8c3dc6f5-dd0e-4e77-b6f1-309516ee2c87 (https://www.brighteon.com/8c3dc6f5-dd0e-4e77-b6f1-309516ee2c87)
And Tucker Carlson of Foxnews with some powerful facts - one of the few mainstream media persons not afraid to tell the truth:
https://www.brighteon.com/71ae2795-d731-444f-aa4c-5e7408fe26b0 (https://www.brighteon.com/71ae2795-d731-444f-aa4c-5e7408fe26b0)
e2matrix
QuoteYou obviously have Trump Derangement syndrome and probably just believe the mainstream media which is totally controlled by a few individuals and the C I A. You probably just use the highly censored Google search engine also which will eliminate a lot of the real truth. You sound like a typical stupid liberal - if you can't stand the truth then burn them down or sue them into oblivion. Pathetic. You don't have a clue. I assume you would like to get rid of the First Amendment to the Constitution - freedom of speech also. Probably want to eliminate the 2nd also?
Your words : " there are restrictions on direct law suits against vaccine makers" exactly - you have to play by their rules to get any compensation.
I didn't say you can't sue them but it is extremely difficult to win. They have protections in place. I'd show you the proof of what I say but I'm not going to waste more time on trying to change someone's beliefs as that rarely works unless they want to find the truth their self. So go ahead and believe what you want. [/size]
This country will get run into the ground by DemonCrats. Actually it is already there in much of the West coast. You and others like you will suffer the consequences if people like you don't wake up and start taking action against all the corruption and lies being peddled.
It's not Trump Derangement syndrome when trumps own relatives, his own sister Maryanne Trump, a well respected federal judge, is saying...
"He has no principles. None. None. And his base, I mean my God, if you were a religious person, you want to help people. Not do this.",
"His goddamned tweet and lying, oh my God,"
"I'm talking too freely, but you know. The change of stories. The lack of preparation. The lying. Holy shit."
"It's the phoniness of it all. It's the phoniness and this cruelty. Donald is cruel."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/maryanne-trump-barry-secret-recordings/2020/08/22/30d457f4-e334-11ea-ade1-28daf1a5e919_story.html
No worries, all this will get sorted out soon enough when donny loses the election. As well, once he can no longer interfere with the rule of law there's a very good chance he will be going to prison. He will be in good company because most of his friends are already in prison where they belong.
We also found out donny's supposedly religious main supporter Jerry Falwell Jr. isn't really who he claims to be, they seldom are.
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/jerry-falwell-jr-becki-tilley-giancarlo-granda-liberty-university
I wonder, how it is that yet another self-proclaimed man of god got caught with his pants down, on his yacht no less, drinking, with another woman with her pants also down who is not his wife. I suppose it's better than a threesome, lol.
Justice may be slow but it's not blind and it always comes full circle one way or another.
Regards
Canada is also finally getting awake:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVPFzcj_yfc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVPFzcj_yfc)
Johan_1955
QuoteIn response to the increasingly repressive COVID regulations and the threat of mandatory vaccinations, a citizens' Common Law Assembly on Canada's west coast has passed a Bylaw that outlaws and nullifies all COVID restrictions, masking, distancing, medical testing and vaccinations. Anyone forcing these measures on the people of Parksville and Qualicum Beach can now face fines and imprisonment in a local Common Law Court.
It's all well enough however if they have a major outbreak and people start dying the municipal counsel can be held liable for damage. It's no different than you getting Covid because you took no precautions infecting others who incurred damage or harm. In the eyes of the law intent matters and if they knew there was a danger and did nothing or worse aggravating the situation they are liable. It's a ticking time bomb in my opinion.
I would ask when ignorance become so fashionable and maybe they should legalize drinking and driving with loaded weapons and we can scrap seat belts as well. It's based on the same kind of flawed reasoning and ignorance to the facts so why not?. When did supposedly responsible adults turn into a bunch of god damn children is the question we should be asking in my opinion.
So really what were talking about is a relatively small segment of society who are too juvenile to take responsibility for there actions.
Regards
Quote from: onepower on August 28, 2020, 06:56:25 PM
Johan_1955
It's all well enough however if they have a major outbreak and people start dying the municipal counsel can be held liable for damage. It's no different than you getting Covid because you took no precautions infecting others who incurred damage or harm. In the eyes of the law intent matters and if they knew there was a danger and did nothing or worse aggravating the situation they are liable. It's a ticking time bomb in my opinion.
I would ask when ignorance become so fashionable and maybe they should legalize drinking and driving with loaded weapons and we can scrap seat belts as well. It's based on the same kind of flawed reasoning and ignorance to the facts so why not?. When did supposedly responsible adults turn into a bunch of god damn children is the question we should be asking in my opinion.
So really what were talking about is a relatively small segment of society who are too juvenile to take responsibility for there actions.
Regards
onepower is volunteering for the JAB! As we see his cognitive functions dwindle away, and his denial of the same, we can be assured he still holds his beliefs, strong and sturdy, until one day, he forgets to breath, as a result of his dwindling cognitive function! Just as they Plan!
Wuhan Virus Laboratory: Any chance of finding a smoking gun is now gone (https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/who-skips-wuhan-during-china-trip-sat-beijing-three-weeks)
Choose Life, say no! Reject the Deep State Satanists! Don't forget, God Wins!
https://qanon.pub/
Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
Chris Sykes
Quote from: onepower on August 28, 2020, 06:56:25 PM
Johan_1955
It's all well enough however if they have a major outbreak and people start dying the municipal counsel can be held liable for damage. It's no different than you getting Covid because you took no precautions infecting others who incurred damage or harm. In the eyes of the law intent matters and if they knew there was a danger and did nothing or worse aggravating the situation they are liable. It's a ticking time bomb in my opinion.
I would ask when ignorance become so fashionable and maybe they should legalize drinking and driving with loaded weapons and we can scrap seat belts as well. It's based on the same kind of flawed reasoning and ignorance to the facts so why not?. When did supposedly responsible adults turn into a bunch of god damn children is the question we should be asking in my opinion.
So really what were talking about is a relatively small segment of society who are too juvenile to take responsibility for there actions.
Regards
You should see what these idiots are saying on OUR. e2 says that ventilators cause deaths and Ronee says that no aircraft were involved over Manhattan on 9/11. I'm not sure what these prats' agenda is but whoever is behind them is not getting their moneysworth. They are such obvious fools.
Paul-R
QuoteYou should see what these idiots are saying on OUR. e2 says that ventilators cause deaths and Ronee says that no aircraft were involved over Manhattan on 9/11. I'm not sure what these prats' agenda is but whoever is behind them is not getting their moneysworth. They are such obvious fools.
It's kind of mind boggling however I think I'm starting to understand whats going on.
I think this fake news and conspiracy theories started to hide Russian interference and the blackmail of trump and all his lies, corruption and such. However I don't think they expected any rational person to believe there bs to this extent. I don't think they expected that this many people could be so gullible so they kept doing what works. I think the Russians just wanted to disrupt the U.S. economy to gain an advantage however now were actually talking about the Russians making trump into a tin pot dictator to gain control.
So why has it worked so well?, It's not the republican/democrat nonsense in my opinion it's religion driving the mob mentality. Trump and the Russians convinced the far right populists they are the superior race just like Adolf Hitler did. As such they think nothing of lying, dehumanizing and degrading others while always claiming to be the victim... pulled right out of the pages of Mein Kampf.
The mistake most are making is the same one the Germans made in thinking the facts and reason would prevail but it didn't because were dealing with a mob mentality. So we should understand that given the chance the populists will turn the U.S. into a dumpster fire and make trump there supreme ruler like Putin. They will betray their country and everything it stands for because there religious fervor knows no bounds. Were already seeing them gunning down people in the streets, a proverbial bible in one hand and an assault rifle in the other.
EMJ nailed it "Choose Life, say no! Reject the Deep State Satanists! Don't forget, God Wins!".
God wins, and they would betray there country, it's values, it's people and become Communists to win. So we should understand this was always a religious war and we all know how that turns out. So given the chance I expect them to burn there own country to the ground to get what they want. Putin would be proud and is probably laughing his ass off right now, lol.
Regards
Chris
Quoteonepower is volunteering for the JAB! As we see his cognitive functions dwindle away, and his denial of the same, we can be assured he still holds his beliefs, strong and sturdy, until one day, he forgets to breath, as a result of his dwindling cognitive function! Just as they Plan!
Choose Life, say no! Reject the Deep State Satanists! Don't forget, God Wins!
No, I have both feet firmly planted on the ground in reality and simply have no need to believe in imaginary things.
The problem with imaginary gods and all this other conspiracy stuff is that it's addictive like a drug. One false belief is never enough and it keeps demanding more and more to satisfy itself. Like that guy on crystal meth with no hair or teeth living in a dumpster who still thinks he's cool for using drugs. Then one day he wakes from his stupor and looks in the mirror and cannot even recognize what he has become. I never could understand the allure of drugs, why escape reality?, reality is pretty cool.
So I'm cool with not being a chosen one or superior because of what I believe. In fact I have taken a break from FE to get back to my roots, to know I can walk away if I choose. It turned out great and the moment I stepped away I got all these new idea's and now I'm starting up another technology company not related to FE. In my opinion, true freedom of choice is being able to walk way if we choose otherwise were just a slave to our beliefs.
Personally, I think all this populist religious fervor is going to burn out soon and then people are going to have to make some hard choices. So I would rather keep my boots on the ground and be ahead of the curve when this goes sideways and it will.
Regards
is this site dead?
https://www.overunity.de/ (https://www.overunity.de/)
For the Fake Science & Fauci-Fans:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cnlynJZLtM
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You talk such crap, Johan. Presumably this
Trump2020 promotion will stop in November
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Paul, a Movie from over 42 min, are you looking double Speed?
Talking before thinking: The true will set You also Free!
Any serious commentator or reseacher would link to the journal in question:
https://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1743-422X-2-69
but we are not dealing with SARS-COV; we are dealing with SARS-COV-2. It is not the same but may be similar.
HCQ has serious side effects, including for pregnant women. This is not a drug to be taken lightly.
Johan
QuoteFor the Fake Science & Fauci-Fans:
It begs the question, if we shouldn't believe the experts, science or the news media then who should we believe?.
That question is very telling isn't it?.
You seem to believe we should listen to a bunch of senile self-serving old men, mostly illiterate and known to be compulsive liar's like trump, bolsonaro and putin. Your joking aren't you?, so tell us who we should believe specifically?... I'm just dying to hear your response.
Regards
Paul-R
QuoteYou talk such crap, Johan. Presumably this
Trump2020 promotion will stop in November
You nailed it.
The populists are attacking everything and everyone on every level and are desperate to change the narrative.
So far as I can tell it works like this...
Trump and most populist leaders did nothing to prevent Covid and got caught with there pants down which made them look stupid. So now there is a massive disinformation campaign to change the narrative and move attention away from there incompetence.
So Bill Gates is a red herring and this is really about discrediting anyone on the left and trying to shift the blame to them for Covid. Oh yes, big bad bill gates is coming to get them and he did this to sell vaccines...BS. You know the far right populists are always talking about the big bad globalism however they are the one's waging the global disinformation campaign.
Gaslighting 101, they accuse everyone else of what they are doing.
Regards
Quote from: onepower on September 02, 2020, 02:42:29 PM
Paul-R
You nailed it.
The populists are attacking everything and everyone on every level and are desperate to change the narrative.
I'm wondering if Johan is a software bot. The apparent response could be a software decision which explains why he will shove in a somewhat disconnected reply but doesn't deal with me implying he's a complete fruitbat.
Have you checked out the thread on overunityresearch? There is enough crap in it to fertilise, duly rotted down, of course, a 100 acre field of cabbages.
Paul-R
QuoteI'm wondering if Johan is a software bot. The apparent response could be a software decision which explains why he will shove in a somewhat disconnected reply but doesn't deal with me implying he's a complete fruitbat.
Have you checked out the thread on overunityresearch? There is enough crap in it to fertilise, duly rotted down, of course, a 100 acre field of cabbages.
I don't think he is AI and based on the broken english and I would say there's a very good chance he is a Russian troll. Look at the last response "Paul, a Movie from over 42 min, are you looking double Speed? Talking before thinking: The true will set You also Free!". Specifically, "Are you looking double Speed" and "The true will set you free", typical Russian or Eastern Europe in my opinion and it's all about keywords and how they are used.
So yes, he is probably some poor soul stuck in a small apartment the size of my bathroom just trying to get by. It's easy to judge but I feel for these people who have been born into a hell on Earth because there leaders are god damn psychopaths. We are so lucky to be born in the right place at the right time and it's easy to take for granted. So in my opinion we should not be so quick to judge however we should also be vigilant. Given the right circumstances he could be us in the future if we are not proactive in protecting our common values.
Regards
They think and move on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB2NwXjHQFw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB2NwXjHQFw)
US is all (R or D) the same: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndafeJrHYGA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndafeJrHYGA)
Like in many countries just explain this:
Quote from: onepower on September 02, 2020, 08:56:52 PM
Paul-R
I don't think he is AI and based on the broken english and I would say there's a very good chance he is a Russian troll.
I think you're dead right. Look at his post immediately above. He doesn't actually know what our posts said about him because he can't speak English. His two video links are fatuous. You'd have thought Vlad could have found better quality people to employ.
Johan is a long time Friend to open source community and helper [or attempts to help] open source researchers.
To say that this covid is completely understood and 100% as we are being told by politicians [or politicians wearing Dr suits...is absurd.
Just paying attention here...and there are truly statistics that need more attention [total deaths from all years compared to "pandemic" years...one thing is certain ...ancillary deaths from lack of proper care [persons afraid to go to hospital [fear]
Deaths from lack of proper nutrition especially in poorer "Locked down" countries [Philippines 100 children dying daily from starvation now since Covid ...many such examples growing worse..
the trickle down deaths from this pandemics "lock downs" will make the actual "event" look like childs play if the world does not get opened soon ...
Chet
QuoteJohan is a long time Friend to open source community and helper [or attempts to help] open source researchers.
To say that this covid is completely understood and 100% as we are being told by politicians [or politicians wearing Dr suits...is absurd.
That's a false narrative, the politicians are basically brain dead and if you want expert advice then we should listen to an expert. Dr. Fauci said on national tv that we still don't understand that much about this virus yet, he said new data is coming in all the time and also said we need to be vigilant and not become complacent... because he is an expert. Only brain dead politicians like donny trump claim they understand when they obviously don't.
QuoteJust paying attention here...and there are truly statistics that need more attention [total deaths from all years compared to "pandemic" years...one thing is certain ...ancillary deaths from lack of proper care [persons afraid to go to hospital [fear]
Deaths from lack of proper nutrition especially in poorer "Locked down" countries [Philippines 100 children dying daily from starvation now since Covid ...many such examples growing worse..
In my opinion Covid is not unlike Polio, all the incompetent people who know nothing made up all kinds of bs excuses as people died. However it wasn't until a real expert, an American virologist Jonas Salk, who looked at the problem actually solved it. You think some backwoods populists with little education is going to find a vaccine?. How could they thus there not part of the solution but more so part of the problem if they don't support people smarter than they are.
Regards
Paul-R
QuoteI think you're dead right. Look at his post immediately above. He doesn't actually know what our posts said about him because he can't speak English. His two video links are fatuous. You'd have thought Vlad could have found better quality people to employ.
Exactly and he hasn't got a clue about anything, his brain is on cruise control and it reminds me of all these East Indian call centers hawking bs to the elderly. Oh, yes I'm a Ethiopian prince and if you send me $3000 worth of I phone cards you could get rich. The worst of it is that so many people actually fall for this bs which is telling in itself. I mean what kind of intelligence would we presume to have to fall for this bs... it's mind boggling.
Regards
Still waiting for your explanation about the German graph!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf0pYH-sqWk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf0pYH-sqWk)
Quote from: Johan_1955 on September 04, 2020, 04:38:41 AM
Still waiting for your explanation about the German graph!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf0pYH-sqWk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf0pYH-sqWk)
To be brutally honest, Johan, I don't give a flying f**k.
What is Science these days?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWCzEOsNeOI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWCzEOsNeOI)
QuoteWhat is Science these days?
The same thing it always was...
"Science is the pursuit and application of knowledge and understanding of the natural and social world following a systematic methodology based on evidence".
In fact the Amish are very scientific and there buggies, harness, hand tools, implements, housing, barns, clothes and social structure are based a methodical approach to what gets the job done and what does not. There also pretty smart in separating there communities from society to avoid all the pitfalls including pollution, chemicals, violence, corruption, substance abuse and...Covid.
In effect when one claims not to believe in science there basically saying they do not believe in knowledge and understanding of the natural world based on evidence and facts. So we should understand science is not a cult or belief but a methodology which should give the best answer but not always.
Regards
Quote from: onepower on September 08, 2020, 04:26:30 PM
So we should understand science is not a cult or belief but a methodology which should give the best answer but not always.
Yes, indeed.
All too often, people see science as a spanner to hit others with, often using confusion or ambiguity to get the point accepted. The problem with the covid debate on this thread and others is that people who believe that what is written is always accurate, or even in good faith, may pay a very high price.
Quote from: onepower on August 29, 2020, 12:55:09 PM
Paul-R
It's kind of mind boggling however I think I'm starting to understand whats going on.
I think this fake news and conspiracy theories started to hide Russian interference and the blackmail of trump and all his lies, corruption and such. However I don't think they expected any rational person to believe there bs to this extent. I don't think they expected that this many people could be so gullible so they kept doing what works. I think the Russians just wanted to disrupt the U.S. economy to gain an advantage however now were actually talking about the Russians making trump into a tin pot dictator to gain control.
So why has it worked so well?, It's not the republican/democrat nonsense in my opinion it's religion driving the mob mentality. Trump and the Russians convinced the far right populists they are the superior race just like Adolf Hitler did. As such they think nothing of lying, dehumanizing and degrading others while always claiming to be the victim... pulled right out of the pages of Mein Kampf.
The mistake most are making is the same one the Germans made in thinking the facts and reason would prevail but it didn't because were dealing with a mob mentality. So we should understand that given the chance the populists will turn the U.S. into a dumpster fire and make trump there supreme ruler like Putin. They will betray their country and everything it stands for because there religious fervor knows no bounds. Were already seeing them gunning down people in the streets, a proverbial bible in one hand and an assault rifle in the other.
EMJ nailed it "Choose Life, say no! Reject the Deep State Satanists! Don't forget, God Wins!".
God wins, and they would betray there country, it's values, it's people and become Communists to win. So we should understand this was always a religious war and we all know how that turns out. So given the chance I expect them to burn there own country to the ground to get what they want. Putin would be proud and is probably laughing his ass off right now, lol.
Regards
@ One Power
Well said...
but then were talking to those susceptible to manipulation by Cambridge Analytica type methods and Russian internet propaganda methods. Fear combined with some anger issues underlies their thinking.
@ All readers
Br exit makes no sense, electing Donald Rump made no sense !
That meme that Covid 19 pandemic is a fake also makes no sense.
Donald Rump or Donald Duck if you prefer, is Putin's bitch.
Considering the staggering number of lies and intentionally misleading garbage that has come out of that man's mouth, no one of both good reason and good conscience can support his continuing as president.
He is the U.S. president and has said that Covid 19 is, like unto the "liberal media" fake.
Well I say he is a lier. Dangerous and destructive. This alone disqualifies him for the office he holds.
He has been impeached, and most of us can hardly wait for his removal.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/17/politics/donald-trump-politifact-lie-of-the-year/index.html
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-lies-washington-post_n_5df898c3e4b03aed50f4725d
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/08/trumps-lies-about-coronavirus/608647/
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/factcheck/fact-checker-president-trump-made-19127-false-or-misleading-claims-in-1226-days/ar-BB14RCpH
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/31/politics/fact-check-donald-trump-top-lies-of-2019-daniel-dale/index.html
I witnessed / checked out very many of the above lies for myself. Didn't take the press at its word,
and didn't accept sound bites as proof, because things can be quoted out of context / misleading.
floor
covid 19
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/worldwide-graphs/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_the_United_States
influenza
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1124915/flu-deaths-number-us/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_influenza_statistics_by_flu_season
floor
PS
I think the Russian people are as great as any on Earth.
Their government kind of sucks though.
Floor
QuoteBrexit makes no sense, electing Donald Rump made no sense !
That meme that Covid 19 pandemic is a fake also makes no sense.
Donald Rump or Donald Duck if you prefer, is Putin's bitch.
Considering the staggering number of lies and intentionally misleading garbage that has come out of that man's mouth, no one of both good reason and good conscience can support his continuing as president.
Brexit was most likely a Russia op to destabilize the European Union through a "divide an conquer" mentality not unlike the Dem/Rep division in the U.S. While everyone is fighting each other and grows weaker the Communists grow stronger.
All the populist leaders who denied Covid following trumps lead caused unnecessary suffering and damage to the economy which again served the Communists interests. Russia and China seem to be doing well, I wonder why?.
I think you nailed it... "no one of both good reason and good conscience can support trump".
However this has nothing to do with reason or conscience and the greater majority of trumps base have bought into white nationalism and populism/theism. There version of law and order is...
-Reelecting trump at any cost, stacking the supreme court to criminalize abortion and forcing theism/Communism on our children.
-Closing the borders, stopping immigration and bringing back a new version of slavery or indentured servitude.
-Then a version of Communism with a dictator like trump who ensures there can be no free or fair elections and there power to corrupt can continue.
Now trump is denigrating and dehumanizing the military and the intelligence agencies illegally placing in term people in power as scapegoats. They place someone like Dejoy, the postmaster general, to rig the postal service rigging the election for trump. At best Dejoy will be fired but that doesn't change the fact the election was rigged. They place a turd like Barr, the attorney general to stop all legal action against trump and be his whipping boy. At best Barr is fired but all the damage has already been done. Look at Cohen, he did all trumps dirty work to cover up the pornogroping thing and collusion with Russia but only Cohen went to jail... there scapegoats.
Trump places brain washed scapegoats to do all the corrupt dirty work, throws them under the bus and he gains power. Trumps supporters are also scapegoats because if trump becomes a dictator and the U.S. becomes Communist they all lose there freedom. As you imply, trump and his supporters become Putin's bitches serving Russia's interests not there own.
I think all this stems from trump being caught on video doing some sadistic things with a couple Russian prostitutes. He is probably being blackmailed by the Russians to be a good little want to be dictator or lose everything. Obviously trump only cares about trump and it seems pretty obvious he would sell out his country to save face and become a supreme ruler like his new pal Putin.
If this happens were basically looking at WW3 and everybody loses so we should understand there are no winners here... we all lose.
Regards
Paul-R
QuoteYes, indeed.
All too often, people see science as a spanner to hit others with, often using confusion or ambiguity to get the point accepted. The problem with the covid debate on this thread and others is that people who believe that what is written is always accurate, or even in good faith, may pay a very high price.
It begs the question...who does all this anti-science anti-facts rhetoric serve?.
When facts are no longer facts the gullible and naive will believe almost anything in my opinion. They could believe any bullshit no matter how absurd if enough doubt and fear are spoon fed to them day after day. So I wouldn't consider all this anti-science/fact nonsense random opinions and I don't believe that many people could be that stupid.
I suspect the Communists may have set up massive call centers like in India with fake identities to saturate the internet with propaganda. Why wouldn't they?, it's cheap and efficient and one person on a high bandwidth connection with notifications could spam every FE site on the planet. A call center could hit millions of forums and news comment sections in a day so why wouldn't they?. Get every crackpot and gullible person all worked up and hooked on this shit then start brain washing them into believing whatever they want.
It's also interesting how all the anti science/fact responses are short and sound scripted. There all repetitive, short in length and never respond to any questions when prompted for more detailed facts or proof of there claims. It begs the question... are they just stupid or paid per response?.
I'm just not buying it and my intuition tells me there is much more to this than we know. Look at India, they have large numbers of call centers with hundreds of people spamming millions of people with telephone scams. So why not do the same with Communism/Populism to cast doubt on science, facts, democracy and freedom?.
Regards
Quote from: onepower on September 09, 2020, 12:55:39 PM
Paul-R
It begs the question...who does all this anti-science anti-facts rhetoric serve?.
The nutters are all discreetly pro Trump. I think he is trying to duck responsibilty for the covid crisis, despite the fact that he is president. ["Heavy hangs a head that wears a crown"]. He's hoping to pin it on phantom people controlling from above for reasons that aren't clear.
Paul-R
QuoteThe nutters are all discreetly pro Trump. I think he is trying to duck responsibilty for the covid crisis, despite the fact that he is president. ["Heavy hangs a head that wears a crown"]. He's hoping to pin it on phantom people controlling from above for reasons that aren't clear.
I would agree trump completely dropped the ball on Covid and made it political to serve his interests.
With respect to the nutters being pro trump, there's obviously plenty of nutters on the left as well. The nutters seem to like the fringes of left/right while most normal rational people move to center in my opinion. I'm a Conservative but I like the Liberals platform on making big polluters pay because they made the pollution not me. Why would I subsidize the big polluters?, that's not conservatism or capitalism that's socialism in my opinion.
My philosophy is to take the best from both sides of right/left to make something better and work together for the common good.
As trump said..."I don't take responsibility at all". He takes credit for everything good but takes no responsibility for anything bad which is basically the mind of a child syndrome. So the fact that trump is now a republican has nothing to do with it. The real problem is that he has mental problems, he is irresponsible and unfit to hold any office serving the public.
Regards
Quote from: onepower on September 09, 2020, 02:11:52 PM
So the fact that trump is now a republican has nothing to do with it. The real problem is that he has mental problems, he is irresponsible and unfit to hold any office serving the public.
I wonder if he could do massive damage to the GOP. He has made them look pretty stupid whilst flying their flag.
I am a liberal, better believe it, and not at all willing to be shamed for it.
I believe in liberty for all. I value the personal freedom I have know in this time and place, where I was fortunate enough to have been born, America. However, I am most definitely, conservative on some issues. Anyone in their right mind, should be !
for the uninformed reader
In the U.S. and in the majority of the world's nations, we have free market / capitalistic economic systems (not communist).
And
we have various forms of democratic / self governance (not fascist).
In the U.S.
All federal, state, county and municipal police departments,
fire departments,
public schools,
public roads,
public hospitals,
municipal, county, state and national parks,
as well as
all branches of the military,
the veterans administration,
our social security system,
the "welfare system"
and
public side walks
are
SOCIALIST institutions, or benefits there of.
These are good things. They are Not communist, they are socialist !
There are many, many very good aspects of socialism in our U.S. system.
I am against fascism !
Read this below and you will be to.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
I am in no way a member of some B.S. "antifa" nor any other "antifascist" organization.
But if any here, oppose forced vaccinations, I strongly suggest that you
first dedicate your self to preventing the rise of fascism. Wake up in deed.
DUMP TRUMP
best wishes
floor
Floor
QuoteI am a liberal, better believe it, and not at all willing to be shamed for it.
I believe in liberty for all. I value the personal freedom I have know in this time and place, where I was fortunate enough to have been born, America. However, I am most definitely, conservative on some issues. Anyone in their right mind, should be !
It's okay to be a liberal however I think sometimes the left goes to far left with a the welfare state/guaranteed income thing. I think they should have mandatory re-training in something to teach skills like to become a trades person. There shouldn't be a free lunch where people get paid to do nothing, it's an unworkable solution.
QuoteIn the U.S. and in the majority of the world's nations, we have free market / capitalistic economic systems (not communist).
And
we have various forms of democratic / self governance (not fascist).
I would beg to differ and the U.S. like Canada has created a welfare state for big business giving billions of dollars to already wealthy corporations to create a few hundred permanent jobs while giving management and shareholders a bonus. That's not capitalism nor is it socialism but more like the communist oligarchy we see in Russia.
QuoteSOCIALIST institutions, or benefits there of.
These are good things. They are Not communist, they are socialist !
Socialism: a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
I don't agree with socialism as it is defined above and we also need much more private enterprise and small business. If everything was owned and operated by the community it would soon turn into a shit show where nothing gets done efficiently. It simply doesn't work in practice because too many people always disagree or have a vested interest ie. corruption at which point nothing gets done as planned.
Socialism simply doesn't work nor does communism and capitalism is still the best bet if it can be regulated to still serve the the public good. Let's face the facts, anytime we get large numbers of people to make any kind of competent decision it generally turns into a shit show. What we need are better, more competent leaders unlike the one's we have who can actually get something done and act in all our best interests.
Everyone has gone way too far left and right in my opinion. What ever happened to normal or middle of the road?.
Regards
The PCR test is not made for this Job, wrong tool, only to get High numbers, people in fear and the chickens obedient!
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html)
See below Germany's figures, Shake and Purchase toilet paper!!
Q - OnePower
"It's okay to be a liberal however I think sometimes the left goes to far left with a the welfare state/guaranteed income thing. I think they should have mandatory re-training in something to teach skills like to become a trades person. There shouldn't be a free lunch where people get paid to do nothing, it's an unworkable solution. "
End - Q
There are sometimes 3rd and 4th generation welfare people in the U.S.. Its how it is for them and its all they have know out side of school and a few brief periods of employment. Its not a healthy thing in some cases I think. Although its not a child's fault. Its like feeding starving children in some desolate part of the world. The children will simply grow up to give birth to more children who would starve unless some one out side gives them food. Or, unless they can be removed to a place where they can learn to grow their own food. But in the mean time, does one let those children starve or become so malnourished that they are literally brain damaged for life or die ?
But also it is a wrong and grossly misleading to characterize the vast majority of welfare recipients as being in that kind of generational cycle.
Q - OnePower
I would beg to differ and the U.S. like Canada has created a welfare state for big business giving billions of dollars to already wealthy corporations to create a few hundred permanent jobs while giving management and shareholders a bonus. That's not capitalism nor is it socialism but more like the communist oligarchy we see in Russia.
End - Q
Yes, it's my understanding that U.S. welfare to corporations (subsidies, tax breaks) far exceeds that which is extended in the public welfare system. The previous statement seem easily plausible to me give the 80 to 20 wealth distribution between rich and the rest of us in the U.S..
I could go on and on, but basically I find no real disagreement with your perspectives / statements, that would be any thing other than splitting hairs.
I saw this film last night. Wow.
https://www.netflix.com/title/81254224
regards
floor
I hope so
and
Good for Germany !
well done !
hoo rah !
floor
NOVA ran a special last night on "HUMAN NATURE"
https://www.kpbs.org/news/2020/sep/03/nova-human-nature/ (https://www.kpbs.org/news/2020/sep/03/nova-human-nature/)
another you should see...[I was unable to watch entire movie yet ...what I did see was remarkable ] we have truly turned a corner and can play as creators ....while also healing many illness.
floor,in the E.U. european countries we have a so called "social-democratic"- system,clearly to differ from the U.S.public system,here we pay higher income taxes and oblgated social security contributions ,in average 40% to the estatal wellfare system !
As endconsumer : +Value added tax ,what does not exist in the U.S.!
The difference : social financial riscs of individuals is spreaded over the total community !
But often it is only a number game ,in politics :
Thesis : the N.A.T.O. members should invest 2% from their GDP for their defense !
The U.S.ministry of Defense their numbers,brut/total or net/liquid : how much goes to the Wallstreet boys and how much really to the U.S. army service ?
Theme : "Americas Missing Money",up to 65000 US$/citizen ( beginning with Rumpsfeld,2001)
Pre-Trump(as President,not as Talk-Master) era
Pays Germany net/liquid more or less for the defense related the U.S. net budget/GDP ratio !?
There are some in mind that the actual political problem is Trump/Republican Party related,what is not !Also an eventual Joe Biden/Democratic Party has to change the economical and social degression from the U.S. !
What is today 'capitalism' or 'communism' ?
The people republic of China their KP government members,often multi-millionares and some 'billionaeres' !
KP constitution rules,laws and order ?
Putin : earned or raided 3,4 billions US$ equivalent ?
Russian constitution rules,laws and order ?
Agree with your observations / appreciate the info Lanka.
Liberal does not mean Democratic party member.
For me the Democratic party has always been just the lesser of two evils.
example.. Democratic party has not been led by a series of climate change deniers.
example.. virtually all the major and violent U.S. domestic terrists / mass shooters have been the extreme right of republican.
I don't mean by any means, to imply that all republicans are fools.
But it is a different kind of mind set than my own, to consider a Trump as the lesser of two evels / superior to Hillary Clinton.
Also, I feel that the democratic party has lost its way / is out of touch with reality, just as much so as the republicn party
RATIONAL response may appear to be as radical to some, but the times we are in are their self, radical.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/oct/30/humanity-wiped-out-animals-since-1970-major-report-finds
best wishes
floor
To live the life less emotional and without exaggeration :
PBR,price ( stock exchange) to book value ratio and BLR,book value to liquidation value ratio (= recovery percentage)
100 stock exchange units equates 1 liquid money unit by company assets liqidation
Cars becoming over the time scratch,houses becoming over the time scratch,companies becoming over the time scratch,estates and their economies becoming scratch !
For this we have linear or progressive amortization/depreciation percentage quotes for goods book value actualisation !
And for the banking sector : the actual book value is the base for financing
Prime (tax)rate : relatively 100% recovery safe ( " muendelsicher") maximal 48% for new products
Sub-Prime (tax) rate : up to 50% losts : maximal 16% additional to the 48% more for new products
Junk rate ~ up to 100% losts : zero credit from serious finance companies
Not the seller ( high/low) price is the base :
Finance system global base :
geral ( = international standart) minimum mass production standart costs = International book value
German macroeconomical PRIMAT : ALLGEMEINE NIEDRIGSTWERTPRINZIP
From classical macroeconomical view point we never invest in houses = Title ,but in industrial transformed material which gives people and goods shelter-/cover function !
From classical macroeconomical view we never invest in cars= Title ,but in industrial transformed material with people/goods transportation function !
When we see " a city",assuming the buildings construction average with 30 years,this let us by progressive amortization giving to this zone this value :
average 100 nominal units the construction investment value - to average 12,5 units book value actual
with maximal allowed 36% partial - used ware- "Prime(tax) rate"- financement ~ 12,5 units book value x 0,36 =
4,5 financial credit units the maximal 100% recovery investment credibility !
For the ground : zero credit ! The worth from 1 high people density sqm equates 1 sqm "desert" ,empty space !
Where this " city" stays is from macroeconomical view and their standartization unimportant ! Equalizing !
Sustainability = 100% recycling- and 100% relocation-ability !
Because this ,the limitations physically and economically,Europe colonized North -America and other global regions ! EXPANSION !
And the european empirial (silver-)Thaler became the world coin currency NR1 : U.S.A.,Canada,Hongkong,Singapore,Australia,Newzealand, now spelled : Dol(l)ar
China is now in a similar situation ! In search for expansion !
We can ever be in discuss about right/wrong assumptions/estimations/calculation results,but for our future project of industry virtualization and professonals scan and digitizing : target " academy in a microchip" we can develop a REPRAP production industry,where human costs price part will become ≤ 5%,management/capital tax and distribution included !
Actually more 95% human costs ( included called "win/profit/gain) price part and 5% material ratio !
In macroeconomy there is not an existence of U.S.A.,CA,AUS,AUT,FRG,FR,RU,PRC,NRC,........, this are ever sub- exemplary geophysical study cases !
Macroeconomy treats physical " units" as part from "totum".REPRAP has not ILO and not WTO restrictions/limitations !
Small 'Men-machine' ,productivity of 10 human workers,hour loan/Lohn less than 1 KWh ,≤ 1 Eurocent
Who can we trust: Science, Politics, ......
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/31/politics/ralph-northam-third-trimester-abortion/index.html (https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/31/politics/ralph-northam-third-trimester-abortion/index.html)
From physical and psychological-ethical view this is anymore cannibalism,when the body is death and the body did not become killed for the function " meat for alimentation" !
It is biomaterial-recycling !
But actually there is an another legal restriction/barrier : kadaver-/Leichenschaendung 'necrophilia/desecration of a corpse
But : from orthodox ethical view each ' organ removal' and/or organ donation would have to become declared : " criminal act " = desecration of a ( living/death) corpse !
13.Oktober,1972 : fly 571 from Montevideo to Santiago de Chile : plane crash in 4000 meters high
Cannibalism or ' legal surviving act' !?
Sincerely
Recycling by decomposition biologically, is the most perfected and harmonious form of recycling.
Returning human bodies and our excrement into the natural bio-cycle as fertilizers (rapidly) would "revolutionize" agriculture.
No need to get any closer to cannibalism than that.
Science
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJxSwxexZYo
and
https://overunity.com/17940/thinken/msg526196/#msg526196
jump up and dance a minute
floor
Johan1955
QuoteWho can we trust: Science, Politics, ......
Gaslight much?.
In fact science is the only reason your alive because if it didn't exist your family tree would have rotted at the roots long ago. Your parents, grand parents and great grandparents would still be living in caves and scavenging for food lucky to live until they were 40. I suspect plagues and disease would have wiped out 90% of the population we know without science. Even if by sheer luck, despite all the odds of a world without science, you would still be some dim wit, living in a cave scavenging for food.
As I like to say, it's people like myself who operate your power generation facilities who make your quality of life possible and if we walked away you would literally be back in the dark ages overnight. No power, no food, no water, no HVAC, no fuel to run your vehicles and your basically a caveman. So you may want to show a little more god damn respect to the people much smarter than yourself who understand science and make your life as you know it possible.
Regards
On vaccinations...
I was doing some research on how vaccines are made, tested and distributed as due diligence. How the vaccine must go through many trials in small groups, larger more diverse groups and long term testing to avoid harmful effects. They must also bias in all the trials with placebo's to ensure the beneficial effects are actually real and not imaginary.
So when some half-wit politician says it will only be a matter of months we can be sure there lying to serve there own political interests.
That's not how real science works and either it actually works as claimed and doesn't do harm and kill someone or it does not. So this fast tracking, we will have a safe and effective vaccine by fall is more bullshit in my opinion. Obviously long term testing cannot occur in a matter of months and there is no way in hell I or my family would get vaccinated for Covid as it stands.
Then we have the "let's just open everything up and prey" crowd who keep infecting other people due to there own ignorance to the facts. We can't have a couple drinks and drive or not wear a seat belt because that is irresponsible and may kill someone. However, apparently being stupid and possibly infecting hundreds of other people due to our own ignorance causing some deaths is acceptable. So how does that work exactly?, being irresponsible and harming others is okay in one instance but not the other even if the result is the same?.
So in my opinion everyone does have the inherent right to act irresponsibly and do stupid shit if they so choose however if it does do harm to others then they must be held responsible for there actions. Where it does get a little weird is when these populist types think they can do whatever the hell they want and not be held responsible which is obviously more bs on there part. Personally I think we should have contact tracking and if some dipshit infects us or our family and does harm we should sue there ass into oblivion just like any other action which does harm.
Regards
Not to mention the drug company that made it too. This garbage of no liability shit needs to be reversed and now. Let the so called miracle makers be responsible for all the damage they do. That for all drugs produced today. No bribing government with lobby monies to weasel out as they did.
onepower (just what does your name mean anyway - one power like a dictator?) Maybe you would like to explain some of these numbers?
Current population of United States about 331 Million
Population of United States predicted in 5 years (2025) 100 Million a reduction of 231 Million people.
Oh, these are not my predictions. This is from www.deagel.com which is a real intelligence organization for the United States. Ties to the N S A, used for briefing the President, the UN, NATO, The World Bank and so on.
See the numbers here:
https://www.deagel.com/country/United%20States%20of%20America
Info about deagel.com here:
https://steemit.com/news/@rebelskum/deagel-a-real-intelligence-organization-for-the-u-s-government-predicts-massive-global-depopulation-50-80
Sure sounds like someone knows about a depopulation agenda - Bill Gates style agenda to vaccinate the entire world. And those numbers are not just for the U.S. - you can see nearly all other countries on that site also with similar population reductions.
Quote from: e2matrix on September 16, 2020, 07:08:24 PM
onepower (just what does your name mean anyway - one power like a dictator?) Maybe you would like to explain some of these numbers?
Current population of United States about 331 Million
Population of United States predicted in 5 years (2025) 100 Million a reduction of 231 Million people.
Oh, these are not my predictions. This is from www.deagel.com (http://www.deagel.com) which is a real intelligence organization for the United States. Ties to the N S A, used for briefing the President, the UN, NATO, The World Bank and so on.
See the numbers here:
https://www.deagel.com/country/United%20States%20of%20America (https://www.deagel.com/country/United%20States%20of%20America)
Info about deagel.com here:
https://steemit.com/news/@rebelskum/deagel-a-real-intelligence-organization-for-the-u-s-government-predicts-massive-global-depopulation-50-80 (https://steemit.com/news/@rebelskum/deagel-a-real-intelligence-organization-for-the-u-s-government-predicts-massive-global-depopulation-50-80)
Sure sounds like someone knows about a depopulation agenda - Bill Gates style agenda to vaccinate the entire world. And those numbers are not just for the U.S. - you can see nearly all other countries on that site also with similar population reductions.
Without to dispute about their ' deagle' researchers qualification and competence some points to notice :
2013 to 2025 forecast of world population 7,1 to 6,9 billions habitants : ~ 2,8% less
This related to this "crazy" U.S.A. and Central-Europe prediction !
The GDP per capita or as purchase power parity 2013 : 2025 forecast world-wide compared f.e. U.S.A. !
World purchase power parity 2025 development : -20%
and U.S.A. purchase power parity development 2025 : - 83%
Forecasts are done with worst/best case scenarios,here we see not the explanation about change parameters and assumptions/estimations their base !
Only number changes !
Sincerely
He is not talking Spanish or Latin, some must have problems with Ears and Eyes, because still they don't understand it:
https://thebridgelifeinthemix.info/health/who-memos-1972-explains-how-to-turn-vaccines-into-a-means-of-killing/ (https://thebridgelifeinthemix.info/health/who-memos-1972-explains-how-to-turn-vaccines-into-a-means-of-killing/)
Johan,wir haben doch keine Sprach-Umgangs und -Verstaendnis-Probleme !?
Die Vogelspinne heisst Vogelspinne weil diese Voegel verzehrt !
Klaro ! ? Einfach und verstaendlich !
Fuer intellektuell Leichtfertige :
Deshalb ist an der Gattung-Art Wolfsspinne ersichtlich dass diese Woelfe verzehrt !
Und die Meeres-Spinne verzehrt Meere,die Koenigs-Krabbe Koenige,aber keine Koeniginnen !
Jackie Kennedy lief als ' Schwarze Witve' umher,hat diese Jack und Robert und Aristoteles verzehrt ?
In der Baumschule erhalten Baeume deren Schulabschlusz und im Kindergarten werden Kinder gezuechtet und groszgezogen !
Es wird hier immer mehr spassiger,umgeben zu sein von soviel Starksinnigen
OCWL
p.s. : "In Germany we can still drive over 300 Km/h !? "
! : A. sollte das Fahrzeug dieses konzeptionell zulassen
B. Soll nicht innerorts gefahren werden,keine Land-/Bundesstrasze
C. Handelt es sich nicht um geschwindigkeitsreduzierte Autobahnabschnitte ( 30% des Netzes und entsprechend Wetterverhaeltnisse)
D. Sollten nicht zuviele Beneluxer mit deren Caravans/Wohnmobilen die freie Fahrt beschraenken
E.Da die Richtgeschwindigkeit bei 130 Km/h liegt,insoweit nicht niedriger angegeben als Streckenlimit, dann bei Unfaellen rechtlich eine " Mitschuld" vorliegt
Vorausschauend fahren,dabei den Rueckspiegel nutzend !
With LOVE, but some at age can't stay on Topic:
How complex evolution is ,Johan,is it not ?
And the medicine only can respond with toxic cocktails !
- trial and error - but gain success for the pharmaceutical industry and labs assistance
Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome : similaries of HIV and Sars-Corona-Virion/Virus
Quote from: e2matrix on September 16, 2020, 07:08:24 PM
Current population of United States about 331 Million
Population of United States predicted in 5 years (2025) 100 Million a reduction of 231 Million people.
Oh, these are not my predictions. This is from www.deagel.com (http://www.deagel.com) which is a real intelligence organization for the United States. Ties to the N S A, used for briefing the President, the UN, NATO, The World Bank and so on.
https://www.deagel.com/country/United%20States%20of%20America (https://www.deagel.com/country/United%20States%20of%20America)
Info about deagel.com here:
https://steemit.com/news/@rebelskum/deagel-a-real-intelligence-organization-for-the-u-s-government-predicts-massive-global-depopulation-50-80 (https://steemit.com/news/@rebelskum/deagel-a-real-intelligence-organization-for-the-u-s-government-predicts-massive-global-depopulation-50-80)
You have linked to Deagel for an item which says that, within 5 years, 2 out of 3 Americans will kill themselves due to "suicide and dislocation".
This is "verified" by Steemit, which is is a blockchain-based blogging and social media website, which rewards its users with the cryptocurrency STEEM for publishing and curating content.
--- A site that nobody has ever heard of, verifed by bloggers?
Johan
Quote36 years and 565 billion dollars later there is no aids vaccine..
.
Yet hundreds of years have past and people like yourself still can't balance there check book... how does that work?.
In fact, real science and learning is hard, it's exponentially hard and the more you want to learn the harder it get's. So it's not for pussies like yourself and it's kind of like beating your head against an impenetrable wall for years on end until something gives. It's a man's game, not for pussies, hence the reason it takes so long and so many pussies like you fail. Key word, pussies ,people who don't have the determination or knowledge to endure a cause which could last a lifetime to find the answer to there questions.
It begs the question... what do you know that everyone does not?, fuck all I suppose, thus you are not a solution to anything more so the problem. However there are people very much unlike you who have dedicated there lives to science and pursue solutions even though there is a good chance they may never see it. Can you imagine that, devoting a large portion of your time, your life, to serve others?. There it is isn't it?, science isn't for pussies who cannot put in the work and dedication to succeed.
The lesson here is to not be pussies , suck it up, be a man not more pussies, we have more than enough of them.
About the Lockdown's also from Cambridge:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSK8pzoLBUI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSK8pzoLBUI)
https://www.nber.org/papers/w27719.pdf (https://www.nber.org/papers/w27719.pdf)
Onepower
Johan is top shelf experimenter ,when he writes of his FE efforts ...not a puttzer...I have spoken with very few that have done what he has and plus he suffered too...[trying to change things years and years ago]
plus he did share here wonderful info ...[Waterfuel info in this forum]
I personally am always Glad he is here.[or available]
in this quest for open source FE
IMO it is the key to all the change we need...energy autonomy will change everything...
Quote from: ramset on September 18, 2020, 01:42:57 PM
Onepower
Johan is top shelf experimenter ,when he writes
of his FE efforts ...not a puttzer.
This may be your opinion of him, Chet, but from where I stand, Johan is a complete prat. He posts a photoshopped image of Gates on top of a slogan without linking to the original source.
He can't even size an image properly.
In my view, his job is to shift blame for the appalling handling of the pandemic in the States away from the President who, ipso facto, is responsible.
Quote from: Paul-R on September 18, 2020, 01:59:37 PM
This may be your opinion of him, Chet, but from where I stand, Johan is a complete prat. He posts a photoshopped image of Gates on top of a slogan without linking to the original source.
He can't even size an image properly.
In my view, his job is to shift blame for the appalling handling of the pandemic in the States away from the President who, ipso facto, is responsible.
You must be a brainwashed CNN fan boy to make statements like that about Trump. You are too far gone to even have a discussion with IMO or as I'm beginning to suspect just an Anti-American troll. Trump wanted to ban flights into the U.S. from China but was up against Pelosi with her saying that's racist and her going to China town in San Francisco to mock Trump for suggesting such a ban. Trump early on suggested Hydroxychloroquine would be good in fighting the coronavirus but was blocked by the PTB in CDC, FDA and Dr. Foul Cheese. Yet Frontline doctors gave evidence of 100% cure rates with Hydroxychloroquine. Head shake ...
Quote from: e2matrix on September 18, 2020, 02:24:52 PM
Yet Frontline doctors gave evidence of 100% cure rates with Hydroxychloroquine.
This is interesting. Please provide a link to the research.
Having worked many years at R&D departments for some Medical Companies, one was a Johnson&Johnson, in those times lots of contact with FDA. Also still having after all these years contact with some: Prof's, Dr's, Nurses, because Great Working together, good people standing up for the True, one of those is a woman working in Oxford Uni, case AstraZeneca, would never expose Her this even because we now disagree.
This is on the way:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JPCGmZM44c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JPCGmZM44c)
Is BAAL peddling back?:
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/07/23/fact-check-uns-agenda-21-2030-agenda-wont-create-new-world-order/5474884002/
Or NOT?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rma2swsqGh8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rma2swsqGh8)
The talk about Essentials, for there NonLove system, choose wisely:
Quote from: e2matrix on September 18, 2020, 02:24:52 PM
You must be a brainwashed CNN fan boy to make statements like that about Trump.
...as I'm beginning to suspect just an Anti-American troll.
.and so, in your reality, anti Trump = anti American.
Does this mean that the 65.8million who voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 are all anti American?
I expect the the 62.9million who voted for Trump aren't, along with the 65.8m.
Quote from: Johan_1955 on September 19, 2020, 05:41:06 AM
Having worked many years at R&D departments for some Medical Companies, one was a Johnson&Johnson, in those times lots of contact with FDA. Also still having after all these years contact with some: Prof's, Dr's, Nurses, because Great Working together, good people standing up for the True, one of those is a woman working in Oxford Uni, case AstraZeneca, would never expose Her this even because we now disagree.
Don't know what your saying here (above) Johan_1955 but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JPCGmZM44c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JPCGmZM44c)
Good video
Thanks
floor
Quote from: e2matrix on September 18, 2020, 02:24:52 PM
You must be a brainwashed CNN fan boy to make statements like that about Trump. You are too far gone to even have a discussion with IMO or as I'm beginning to suspect just an Anti-American troll. Trump wanted to ban flights into the U.S. from China but was up against Pelosi with her saying that's racist and her going to China town in San Francisco to mock Trump for suggesting such a ban. Trump early on suggested Hydroxychloroquine would be good in fighting the coronavirus but was blocked by the PTB in CDC, FDA and Dr. Foul Cheese. Yet Frontline doctors gave evidence of 100% cure rates with Hydroxychloroquine. Head shake ...
I don't rely on sound bites.
No one has to rely on sound bites to know Donald Rump's character or rather lack there of.
Trump has little more than disgust and contempt for people of lower economic classes.
He is a_____ garbing pig with no remorse, oink.
A bully and I suspect he is a total coward if facing equal or better odds. I would bet he, himself,
knows this better than anyone.
He's squeamish about blood, and when a woman at one of his early rallies fell from the stage,
then lay there unconscious with a pool of blood flowing out from and around her head, Rump showed no empathy. His concern seemed only to be about the mess and the inconvenience
to him self. I saw his reactions, and this wasn't just some misleading sound bite.
He's an utter racist, unless personal gain is at stake.
He lies to such a degree as I have never seen except in individuals with serious mental / emotional problems.
It's unconscionable and very un-American to support his remaining in the white house.
Lock him up.
He doesn't give a S__t about any one but Donald, and would say any thing for more power.
He knows almost nothing about science, vacines, epidemics U.S. or world politics.
floor
Floor
QuoteHe's squeamish about blood, and when a woman at one of his early rallies fell from the stage,
then lay there unconscious with a pool of blood flowing out from and around her head, Rump showed no empathy. His concern seemed only to be about the mess and the inconvenience
to him self. I saw his reactions, and this wasn't just some misleading sound bite.
It's kind of strange how Johan1955 and others like trump so much but he thinks his supporters are "disgusting". Not just misguided or naïve for making him and his friends richer but "disgusting". As if they were subhuman or disgusting animals bred to serve them.
The problem with psychopath dictators is that they always turn on there supporters at some point. So Johan and friends better watch there mouth and tow the party line no matter what or they could end up in the gulag, lol. It's always the same old sad story deifying a mad man who then turns on them because it's in there nature to turn on everyone. Sad.
Regards
Quote from: Floor on September 20, 2020, 11:41:31 PM
I don't rely on sound bites.
No one has to rely on sound bites to know Donald Rump's character or rather lack there of.
Trump has little more than disgust and contempt for people of lower economic classes.
He is a_____ garbing pig with no remorse, oink.
A bully and I suspect he is a total coward if facing equal or better odds. I would bet he, himself,
knows this better than anyone.
He's squeamish about blood, and when a woman at one of his early rallies fell from the stage,
then lay there unconscious with a pool of blood flowing out from and around her head, Rump showed no empathy. His concern seemed only to be about the mess and the inconvenience
to him self. I saw his reactions, and this wasn't just some misleading sound bite.
He's an utter racist, unless personal gain is at stake.
He lies to such a degree as I have never seen except in individuals with serious mental / emotional problems.
It's unconscionable and very un-American to support his remaining in the white house.
Lock him up.
He doesn't give a S__t about any one but Donald, and would say any thing for more power.
He knows almost nothing about science, vacines, epidemics U.S. or world politics.
floor
Proof of above claimed situation? Sounds like a Communist lie. Nothing found in searching Google for such an event unless you are referring to this one where Trump paused his rally for 10 minutes and asked for any Doctor in the house to help when a woman collapsed:
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/415102-trump-pauses-missouri-campaign-rally-after-woman-collapses
Trump has made more personal phone calls to individuals who have experienced tragedy or difficult situations than any other president I've seen in the last 50 years. What you are claiming makes no sense at all.
Quote from: onepower on September 21, 2020, 10:34:02 AM
Floor
It's kind of strange how Johan1955 and others like trump so much but he thinks his supporters are "disgusting". Not just misguided or naïve for making him and his friends richer but "disgusting". As if they were subhuman or disgusting animals bred to serve them.
The problem with psychopath dictators is that they always turn on there supporters at some point. So Johan and friends better watch there mouth and tow the party line no matter what or they could end up in the gulag, lol. It's always the same old sad story deifying a mad man who then turns on them because it's in there nature to turn on everyone. Sad.
Regards
An obvious case of Trump Derangement Syndrome. Total lies or a Communist troll.
Quote from: e2matrix on September 21, 2020, 12:21:17 PM
An obvious case of Trump Derangement Syndrome. Total lies or a Communist troll.
I've always thought that it is all a "Get Trump off the hook" campaign.
Quote from: e2matrix on September 21, 2020, 12:20:14 PM
Trump paused his rally for 10 minutes and asked for any Doctor in the house to help when a woman collapsed:
Why was he having a rally in the first place?
A few of the worlds TV channels keeps showing a film called 'who killed Geffery Epstein' it doesn't do Trump an favors!
Most of it's on youtube
e2matrix
QuoteAn obvious case of Trump Derangement Syndrome.
https://www.businessinsider.com/video-aide-trump-didnt-want-to-shake-hands-disgusting-supporters-2020-9
Pence's former top aide says Trump called the coronavirus 'a good thing' because he didn't like shaking hands with 'disgusting' supporters.
So ya, unfortunately your hero donny trump thinks your disgusting, lol.
Question ?
Has Donald Rump changed his mind about Covid 19 is a "fake" ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvxfelkpa9k
Howard Stern interview excerpts...
https://bipartisanreport.com/2017/09/28/elderly-man-falls-at-mar-a-lago-trump-complains-about-blood-staining-marble-floor/
floor
Quote from: Floor on September 21, 2020, 11:11:29 PM
Question ?
Has Donald Rump changed his mind about Covid 19 is a "fake" ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvxfelkpa9k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvxfelkpa9k)
Howard Stern interview excerpts...
https://bipartisanreport.com/2017/09/28/elderly-man-falls-at-mar-a-lago-trump-complains-about-blood-staining-marble-floor/ (https://bipartisanreport.com/2017/09/28/elderly-man-falls-at-mar-a-lago-trump-complains-about-blood-staining-marble-floor/)
floor
The problem with Trump is that all he wants is to win the election. He will do and say everything and anything that gets him through.
Maybe Hypocrite:
https://overunity.com/12072/religeous-people-are-fanatics-plan-for-a-virus-to-remove-your-god-gene/msg313805/#msg313805 (https://overunity.com/12072/religeous-people-are-fanatics-plan-for-a-virus-to-remove-your-god-gene/msg313805/#msg313805)
@ Johan_1955:
Johan, the following will happen to you soon (a presage):
- the new world order will be at your door
- Bill Gates will personally vaccinate you
- the Shiva Cult has singled you out for special treatment
- the Bilderbergers will ignore you
- you are nominated for the Sars Covid 2 spammer of the year price
- you will detect more conspiracies next year than ever before
- you will be placed in Lockdown for three months really soon now
- you will soon believe in climate change
- you will fall in love with Greta
- Fauci will be your new father figure
- sorry, the Amish will not take you in
- you will be recruited to count the Corona deaths in your area
- you will be forced to learn about statistics https://elearningindustry.com/stats-101-need-know-statistics
Greetings, Conrad
Sorry for you, but that is happening when you follow blindly a leader:
https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article216113958/Mehr-Drogentote-Lauterbach-fordert-Legalisierung-von-Cannabis-und-Kokain.html (https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article216113958/Mehr-Drogentote-Lauterbach-fordert-Legalisierung-von-Cannabis-und-Kokain.html)
Did we learn from history or is it repeating: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIpA-MsSmLQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIpA-MsSmLQ)
QuoteDid we learn from history or is it repeating
It may be repeating, North America and most of Europe where enjoying a renaissance of technology, new found freedom and a functional democracies until the psychopath Adolf Hitler and friends crashed the party. The Americans, Canadians and there allies kicked Adolf's ass because we were fighting for freedom not a psychotic dictator peddling false ideals like Adolf, Putin or Trump. We won because the Nazi's were fighting for power and wealth which is fleeting because you can't enjoy it when your dead. So while the Nazi's turned into cowards and ran when things didn't go there way the real men just got pissed off and fought harder.
So it should be understood this populism and communism may be having it's day just like Adolf did however when our tolerance for it is gone there finished. Like the Nazi's there will be a reckoning and many of these people will be going to prison just like they always do. Hell, Donny trump Jr was even caught saying that if they lose the next election there all going to prison, lol. So this shit show is not going to end well for them, lol.
Regards
Quote from: onepower on September 23, 2020, 05:18:45 PM
We won because the Nazi's were fighting for power and wealth which is fleeting because you can't enjoy it when your dead. So while the Nazi's turned into cowards and ran when things didn't go there way the real men just got pissed off and fought harder.
I'm not sure you're right. We won because Hitler was an absolutely useless C in C. He made so many bad mistakes that it was ridiculous. If he had respected his generals, Europe would have lost and after 5-10 years, he would have come for the States.
Talking is Cheap, his:
Grandma always said "whats for Yah Naer go by yah"
And now this one week numbers in " age classes" divided !
Sincerely
Quote from: Johan_1955 on September 24, 2020, 05:41:18 AM
Talking is Cheap, his:
Grandma always said "whats for Yah Naer go by yah"
The standard of debate here is rock bottom.
Nothing is learned from one week. You need
to see the graph of deaths against time.
So before we run off into more Johan-1955 posted sound bite / misleading quotations / gas lighting / slandering Bill Gates, Shall we examine this video in detail
He posted it !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JPCGmZM44c
I think SHE is sincere, has a little bit of real knowledge about the subject, and is genuinely afraid and concerned. There is some valid information here.
next
Perhaps the first 1/3 to 1/2 of the video has the most real information.
Nothing in depth. MAYBE ? 80% accurate ?
Her reactions to the (what I consider ) the real information in her video are not very different from my own (example... the potential for harm / misuse here is enormous).
Later on it becomes apparent than she has a great deal of confusion / lack of understanding of the
difference between nano tech and perhaps nano bots ? and other aspects of her topic. Also she has been infected to a degree, by the lets hate and fear Bill Gates meme.
So whats to do ? not do ?
Lets not promote any fanciest agendas which while promising to protect us from the evil child eating satanists, are actually (the fascists) the kind of leadership most likely of any, to bring
great destruction upon us all.
As she recommends, several times during the video DO your own RESEARCH.
floor
Quote from: Johan_1955 on September 17, 2020, 02:35:27 AM
He is not talking Spanish or Latin, some must have problems with Ears and Eyes, because still they don't understand it:
https://thebridgelifeinthemix.info/health/who-memos-1972-explains-how-to-turn-vaccines-into-a-means-of-killing/ (https://thebridgelifeinthemix.info/health/who-memos-1972-explains-how-to-turn-vaccines-into-a-means-of-killing/)
@ johan-1955
Here we go again. I click on your provided link and get a rabbit hole of opinion and mis / disinformation.
Give the link to that Bill Gates Ted talk directly. This way every reader can see for their self.
THIS IS JUST ANOTHER OF YOUR
quoting of some sound bite out of context, from someone quoting that sound bite out of context form someone quoting that sound bite out of context form someone quoting that sound bite out of context form someone quoting that sound bite out of context form someone quoting that sound bite out of again.
"We can wipe out a lot of humanity if we can just get vaccines into more people. "
No I don't think so, no.
floor
@Johan-1955
This is all very problematic for me / all of us.
I'm not a hero / icon worshipper. I'm not into celebrities. sports superstars and so on. Lots of people are. Fine.
Athletic activities are some thing I enjoy by doing, not watching.
I don't hate Bill Gates.
I don't admire him either.
I know a little about his ries to power, and I personally don't consider him as at all qualified, to make "the big decisions" for humanity.
Obcene wealth isn't a qualifer in this respect, for me.
It's a disqualifier.
Idolizeing dead heros is bad enough, but the practice of giving credence to people's opinions
simply based upon their celebrity status is folly, of the greatest magnitude.
Anyone (except those hideing under a rock) is upset in these times, by very many things.
This I understand.
BUT
Black and white thinking will only get us into deeper trouble.
floor
https://elemental.medium.com/a-supercomputer-analyzed-covid-19-and-an-interesting-new-theory-has-emerged-31cb8eba9d63 (https://elemental.medium.com/a-supercomputer-analyzed-covid-19-and-an-interesting-new-theory-has-emerged-31cb8eba9d63)
Oak Ridge national lab in US
listed 10 possible remedies or treatments already approved By US Gov't
link was shared By Citfta
Quote from: Floor on September 24, 2020, 01:28:09 PM
So before we run off into more Johan-1955 posted sound bite / misleading quotations / gas lighting / slandering Bill Gates, Shall we examine this video in detail
He posted it !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JPCGmZM44c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JPCGmZM44c)
I think SHE is sincere, has a little bit of real knowledge about the subject, and is genuinely afraid and concerned. There is some valid information here.
<snip
Floor, do you have any other links to that video? Must have been too close to the truth since it is no longer available and even the Account is terminated.
Quote from: e2matrix on September 25, 2020, 02:33:30 PM
Floor, do you have any other links to that video? Must have been too close to the truth since it is no longer available and even the Account is terminated.
As we all know, this is what they do to basket cases who advise members of the public to do damned stupid things.
Paul-R
QuoteAs we all know, this is what they do to basket cases who advise members of the public to do damned stupid things.
Not all basket cases, because donny trump was theorizing about the virtues of injecting bleach or sunlight into our bodies on the national news, rofl.
This is obviously a special kind of stupid the likes of which few of us have ever seen and I expect a barrage of lawsuits the moment he loses the next election. As donny trump jr said, if they lose the election there all going to prison, lol.
Regards
Quote from: onepower on September 25, 2020, 07:01:14 PM
Paul-R
Not all basket cases, because donny trump was theorizing about the virtues of injecting bleach or sunlight into our bodies on the national news, rofl.
You're quite right. They miss a lot of idiots.
Quote from: e2matrix on September 25, 2020, 02:33:30 PM
Floor, do you have any other links to that video? Must have been too close to the truth since it is no longer available and even the Account is terminated.
@ e2matrix
Search Dr Carrie Madej there are several links to her.
Search also luciferase enzyme / luciferase vaccine
Search also RNA vaccine
Search also https://news.mit.edu/2019/storing-vaccine-history-skin-1218
Let me reiterate
The video brings forward several things which I was not aware of ... good
but I think also there is a good deal of misinformation there as well.
floor
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/26/health/coronavirus-myths-science-gupta/index.html (https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/26/health/coronavirus-myths-science-gupta/index.html)
This article might help covidiots to learn the truth. But some will never learn.
Greetings, Conrad
Quote from: conradelektro on September 26, 2020, 05:08:43 PM
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/26/health/coronavirus-myths-science-gupta/index.html (https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/26/health/coronavirus-myths-science-gupta/index.html)
This article might help covidiots to learn the truth. But some will never learn.
Greetings, Conrad
These guys don't think. If an item conforms to their world view, they applaud. If it doesn't, they dismiss it as "Fake News" from the MSM.
The truth is we have a virus circulating called covid similar to the flu but much more deadly. It's a virus, not the first one nor the last. Deal with it.
I get really tired of all these snowflakes turning everything into some kind of conspiracy to serve there political beliefs. Nature doesn't care what you believe only what you do.
Regards
Anyone who even listens to CNN is brainwashed beyond all help.
e2matrix
QuoteAnyone who even listens to CNN is brainwashed beyond all help.
No, the brainwashed refuse to listen to any perspective different from there own hence the reason they are brainwashed. I listen to many different perspectives then decide which reflect reality better than the rest. However if we never listened to others then how would we know?, we would always be biased thus just listening is as important as what we listen too in my opinion.
I find CNN just as bias as FOX, which is just as bias as CBC, which is just as bias as BBC. They all have some bias but a bias is not brainwashing which is a refusal to listen or understand other perspectives.
So by attempting to pigeonhole others you have all but proven your own bias more so by a complete lack of justification to support your claim. You can always spot the brainwashed as they never justify there claim because they cannot.
Dr. Mike Yeadon (https://www.crunchbase.com/person/michael-yeadon), a former Vice President and Chief Science Officer for Pfizer for 16 years, says that half or even "almost all" of tests for COVID are false positives. Dr. Yeadon also argues that the threshold for herd immunity may be much lower than previously thought, and may have been reached in many countries already.
https://hubpages.com/politics/Pfizer-Chief-Science-Officer-Second-Wave-Based-on-Fake-Data-of-False-Positives-for-New-Cases-Pandemic-is-Over (https://hubpages.com/politics/Pfizer-Chief-Science-Officer-Second-Wave-Based-on-Fake-Data-of-False-Positives-for-New-Cases-Pandemic-is-Over)
100% ' point of view logical' right l
" positive tests and probably strong symptoms / emergency room beds capacity " - ratio ?
It is about each estatal medical system emergency case and reaction potential !
Pandemy is not an economical declaration but a status by the WHO ,for localities/regions/nation/-s/...... !
Some feels stressed,some feels bored by this politics and partidary re-/actions !
Sincerely
Johan
QuoteDr. Mike Yeadon, a former Vice President and Chief Science Officer for Pfizer for 16 years, says that half or even "almost all" of tests for COVID are false positives. Dr. Yeadon also argues that the threshold for herd immunity may be much lower than previously thought, and may have been reached in many countries already.
Of course, that's why the death rate is 4% and many hospitals were overrun with sick people in ICU, it's because the tests are faulty, rofl.
Obviously if the tests were false then that would be reflected in the 200,000 plus body count wouldn't it?.
Clueless you obviously are, no reasoning or logic skills to be found in that vast expanse of vacuum between your tiny little ears they say.
Regards
Is that what you think ;D ;D
Hmmm better not quit your day time job , well not just yet
The fact remains that if trump wasn't president and the government wasn't turned into some bs reality show we wouldn't be having this conversation.
In Canada and many other countries all the parties came together and worked together to address the pandemic. No conservatives were stupid enough to contradict the experts for political reasons because we don't tolerate that bs.
Strange how only the few countries with populist leaders are spreading fake news and bs conspiracy theories. Wonder why that is?, everyone else is taking the pandemic seriously because it's not a reality show.
Meanwhile the whole world is wondering if the U.S. is going to be the next banana republic dictator state. Get your shit together.
Belgium Health Experts Demand Investigation Of WHO For Faking Coronavirus Pandemic
https://greatgameindia.com/belgium-who-investigation-coronavirus/amp/ (https://greatgameindia.com/belgium-who-investigation-coronavirus/amp/)
Quote from: Johan_1955 on September 29, 2020, 04:31:15 AM
Belgium Health Experts Demand Investigation Of WHO For Faking Coronavirus Pandemic
Then link to these Belgian experts and not some bizarre site that
nobody knows and runs weird stories about sharks and vaccines.
QuoteBelgium Health Experts Demand Investigation Of WHO For Faking Coronavirus Pandemic
Comrade why do you continue attacking every world organization and the facts when no intelligent person honestly believes your bs?.
It's obvious that together we are strong while separate we are weak which is your goal isn't it... to divide us.
Maybe it's best to stick to your own shit hole country, mother Russia because the West just isn't buying your bs any more. Can you feel it slipping?, the tides are turning and when they do there will be hell to pay comrade.
Regards
An interesting analysis: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.23.20160895v5.full.pdf (https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.23.20160895v5.full.pdf)
From the article: Discussion: These results indicate that COVID-19 is hazardous not only for the elderly but also for middle-aged adults, for whom the infection fatality rate is two orders of magnitude greater than the annualized risk of a fatal automobile accident and far more dangerous than seasonal influenza. Moreover, the overall IFR for COVID-19 should not be viewed as a fixed parameter but as intrinsically linked to the age-specific pattern of infections. Consequently, public health measures to mitigate infections in older adults could substantially decrease total deaths.
This should be of interest for older covidiots.
Greetings, Conrad
Shall we understand this comparison as justification for an in average 3 times higher mortality rate for the U.S.A.,compared with England's fatality/mortality rate ?
Are in the U.S. the cars so bad,the drivers,the emergency service after accident,in hospital the medical treatment,their lifestyle related riscs ?
For the age class 0-34 years in the U.S. this Table 3 IFR relations gives the reazon about "fake danger " talking !
Scientifical " composed" numbers !
Covid19 age-class IFR / geral age-class IFR ,this is the only neutral comparison base !
And like by the influenza A,B,... ,HIV 1,2,3,..... also by the Covid19 we have to risc classify the several different stams in their aggressivity and IFR
Sincerely
It is an interesting table but co-morbidity
issues may be more important. People withobesity, diabetes, lung problems etc areespecially vulnerable.
https://www.medrxiv.org (https://www.medrxiv.org) = https://chanzuckerberg.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGssbaktT1I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGssbaktT1I)
Australian state law empowers officials to forcibly remove underwear to administer vaccine
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/australian-state-law-empowers-officials-to-forcibly-remove-underwear-to-administer-vaccine (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/australian-state-law-empowers-officials-to-forcibly-remove-underwear-to-administer-vaccine)
Quote from: Johan_1955 on September 30, 2020, 09:43:15 AM
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/australian-state-law-empowers-officials-to-forcibly-remove-underwear-to-administer-vaccine (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/australian-state-law-empowers-officials-to-forcibly-remove-underwear-to-administer-vaccine)
If you want to be taken seriously, link to the Australian
legislators' site and not some weird site which conceals
their obvious pro Trump pro Catholic position.
Quote from: Paul-R on September 30, 2020, 09:58:32 AM
If you want to be taken seriously, link to the Australian
legislators' site and not some weird site which conceals
their obvious pro Trump pro Catholic position.
Ups,there can be a misinterpretation worldwide about " catholic" and " communism" :
Jerusalem, Ur-Christentum = kommunistische Sekte
Referenz : Lexikon,katholische Herder-Verlag
strictly to differ
from 19.century " Das kommunistische Manifest" - as written idea-catalog from and for the "Pariser Kommune" by Karl Marx and after his early death finalized by Friedrich Engels !
Lenin : " Kirche ist Opium fuer das Volk !"
Kommunismus ohne Bildung ist pure Volksidiotie,mit und/oder ohne Religion !
Demokratie = Kommunismus alias Sozialismus
::) Deutsche Demokratische Republik,Sozialistische Einheitspartei (Ost-) Deutschlands
und es erklang Blockfloeten-Geduddel aus dem " Palast der Republik"
Palatina/Palastina/Palaestina : Burg/Borough/Palast/Palais/Pfalz
Bourgeois versus ...... Plebs und Proletarier
plebejer,singular and plebs ,plural in the old Rome the classless workers
Today to find : Poebel,peuple,people
to differ from populus
proles,singular and proletes the numerous high filius and filias by asocial number
But : Karl Marx was also Nationaloekonom ~ Volkswirtschaftler :
basics 18./19. century macro-economy : Walras + Pareto
Economical entrophy ,over the time,undefined
The price for acting like the covidiots want to act (doing nothing):
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.09.16.20194787v1 (https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.09.16.20194787v1) The city Manaus in Brazil seems to have reached herd immunity. According to the authors, the infection fatality rate in Manaus was about 0.28%, or one death in every 350 people infected by the virus. https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/09/22/1008709/brazil-manaus-covid-coronavirus-herd-immunity-pandemic/ (https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/09/22/1008709/brazil-manaus-covid-coronavirus-herd-immunity-pandemic/)
So, the covidiots who are against all measures and restrictions during the corona pandemic would have to accept a mortality rate of 0.28 %.
A trivial calculation for the USofA: population 330 Million, 66% infected is about 220 Million, follows about 616.000 corona victims (if compared with the city of Manaus in Brazil).
Official count of today in the US is about 200.00 corona victims.
This is a very crude estimate, it just gives an order of magnitude of the number of victims to expect in case one simply ignores Covid 19.
The covidiots and self proclaimed freedom lovers and liberty defenders would have to accept a lot of victims, mainly from the elderly and poor. Is 0.28 % of 66% of the population an acceptable price?
Greetings, Conrad
www.scielo.br (http://www.scielo.br) study with prediction of up to 2% CoVid19 related extra-death rate from 100% infection cases !
1000 deaths per 50.000 infection cases ( in Brazil )
The last question " Is 0,28% ... acceptable price ?" has many 'point of view'- response liberties,
ecological-economical-social-philosophical !
To Covidiots and none-Covidiots !
Depends also from individual his law & order understanding ( il/-logical) = hirarchy
counter individuals anarchy ,by politics view or just for momentary fun : party-time and spreading
Institute for Health Metrics,at the University of Washington School of medicine, prediction for the end of the year and U.S.A. : 410.000 death victims
Sincerely
p.s. : ' catholic' has much to do with prediction : over-population against 'Primogenitur'-hirarchy
O primeiro recebe tudo,os proximos nada :
sem terra/casa,sem direito de fertilidade legal,sem nome familiar
No and never social equality !
Dagegen nuetzt keine ' Befreiungstheologie' ! Proleten-Ueberproduktion
Erstgeborene : Gesamtgut
Zweitgeborene : Sozialberuf, Neuname "Bruder/Frater/Frey ..... " Kondition :zoelibataer= ehe-/kinderlos
Drittgeborene : Militaer, Kondition : zoelibataer = ehe-/kinderlos ; frueher Tod in Erwartung
'we were ,we are and we will ever be a social-class membership differing society !
there is much tradition ,included hirachy pyramid,in our social system with centuries in yesrs prospection
Quote from: Floor on October 01, 2020, 11:45:47 AM
Personal message from e2matrix
"Communist trolls" you say ? I think you might be just a little bit stuck in McCarthyism.
see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism)
Alex Jones is an Idiot, and if Donny Rump / Donald Duck ever "drained the swamp" all he would find at the bottom is a mirror, with his own face reflected in it.
floor
Useful post, floor. From your PM from e2matrix, you quote him as saying:
"As for user onepower and Paul-R I don't think there is much use in arguing ... I actually am beginning to suspect they are just Communist trolls or they want to see America and other free countries destroyed".
How?
What is being said is:
1. people who state something is true should be ready with objective evidence.
2. people who don't take the disease seriously may become part of "excess deaths".
3. people who link to websites that make statements with no proof will be judged by them.
Quote removed at requeat of e2matrix... by floor
Quote from: e2matrix on October 01, 2020, 12:30:20 PM
@ all readers
I could use a little clarification / information here.
Is it actually against forum rules, for me to post someone's PM to me, with out first receiving
that persons permission ?
floor
PS to e2matrix
By communist agenda, do you mean socialism ?
Yes, please don´t post personal mails without permission...
P.S. it is sad to see, that this Fake PCR test from Dr. Drosten is still be used,that can not say, if someone is really ill...
It has almost 90 percent flase positives and the governments use this PCR test to rampup the infected cases and plan and force a second lockdown,while noone is really anymore ill...
The hospitals are empty and the agenda Bill Gates want to get you force vaccinated with his RDNA
vaccine which changes your DNA and makes you heavily ill in about 2 years..
His Agenda is printed in the Geogia Guidestones, to reduce the world population to 500 Millions.In Australia, where they already have the 2nd lockdown they just released a new law, where the millitary can
fetch you, remove your clothes and will force vaccinate you...
In Germany already 3 small children died by having to wear the masks because oxygen was lacking...What a shame...
Here is a Bittube.video channel, where the Youtube censors have deleted these videos about it....
https://bittube.video/accounts/trendsvideos/videos
Regards, Stefan.
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@e2matrix
I can understand your point of view. How ever, I have not revealed your
real name, email, medical information, financial information,
other PRIVATE information or so on.
I assume that YOU consider my posting of these personal messages sent to me, by you,
as invasive of your privacy.
If my interpretation is correct, then I have a solution for you,
don't PERSONAL message me again.
While I will agree that it is discourteous of me to post those messages
openly.....
I do not consider this as any more of a discourtesy, than it was for you to
try to include me, in some kind of behind the scenes click.
Don't invite me on the sly, into your secret anti communist world.
My postings of your PM to me have been removed.
floor
Very well Stephan. No problem.
Best wishes
floor
Quote from: hartiberlin on October 01, 2020, 10:27:18 PM
Yes, please don´t post personal mails without permission...
P.S. it is sad to see, that this Fake PCR test from Dr. Drosten is still be used,that can not say, if someone is really ill...
It has almost 90 percent flase positives and the governments use this PCR test to rampup the infected cases and plan and force a second lockdown,while noone is really anymore ill...
The hospitals are empty and the agenda Bill Gates want to get you force vaccinated with his RDNA
vaccine which changes your DNA and makes you heavily ill in about 2 years..
His Agenda is printed in the Geogia Guidestones, to reduce the world population to 500 Millions.In Australia, where they already have the 2nd lockdown they just released a new law, where the millitary can
fetch you, remove your clothes and will force vaccinate you...
In Germany already 3 small children died by having to wear the masks because oxygen was lacking...What a shame...
Here is a Bittube.video channel, where the Youtube censors have deleted these videos about it....
https://bittube.video/accounts/trendsvideos/videos (https://bittube.video/accounts/trendsvideos/videos)
Regards, Stefan.
Thanks, a spark of true between so much programmed ..............
Johan,Sie sind Niederlaender,oder ?!
Sind eure Experten a-sozial ?
mch,microcompacthouse, ein niederlaendischer Architekt,nebenbei Professor gewesen ( verstorben)
Hausgroesse : 7,5 qm
Spacebox,Wohnmodule mit 18 qm Grundriss,aus den Niederlanden,besonders in Studentenhochburgen installiert
Vergleich : internationaler sozialer Wohnungsbau/-Kultur, erfasste Werte
CIAM,Expertenkonferenz 1929 ( Resultat noch fuer viele Sozialstaaten und deren Buerger gueltig) :
Einzelpersonminimum,Sozialstandart : 32 qm Wohnflaeche/38 qm Grundflaeche
Sozialfoerderungsmaximum fuer Familien:
60 qm Wohnflaeche[ es besteht also fuer diese Staaten ein numerisch fixierter " allgemeiner (Grundbeduerfnis) Niedrigstwert ", ( wer viel voegelt lebt beengter)
ueber diesen Wert kein Mietfoerderungs-/Kredit-Anteilswert-Anspruch besteht !]
Groesse 4d empfinden : youtube video Ikea 35 qm Smallhome-Prototyp,fuer bis zu 2 Erwachsene + 2 Kinder
Wie aber Wohnflaechenanspruch kalkulieren bei ehelicher Scheidung,Tod eines Partners ?
Sozialer Lastenausgleich !
Sind Wohnmobile/Caravans als Wohnheime in dere9n beschraenkter Groesse sozial " menschenunwuerdig" ? 8)
Muessen diese nicht sofort abgeschafft werden ? :o ( Zahlenspiel-Provokation !)
" angemessen",Konfigurierung : Die soziale Wuerde als Buerde ist un-/antastbar !?
CIAM und "BAUHAUS"
Scheinbar vergessen :
Kredit = Beduerftigen-/ Sozialschwache -Hilfe ,eines der bedingen/konditionierten Sozialstaatinstrumente
Schwache Staaten,schwache Zentralbanken,schwache Unternehmen,schwache leistungsarme Arbeitnehmer
Bezueglich "Angemessenheit": ein deutscher Richter nahm zum Sozialstandart den Standart in Justizvollzugsanstalten zum Vergleich : 9 qm pro Insasse (12 qm inkl. Sanitaerbreich)
Wie ist der Standart in Polzei-/Soldaten-Kasernen, je nach Dienstgrad !?
Gerechtigkeit hat eine grosse Bandbreite ! Jeder kann sich dabei taeuschen !
Here big story
US president and wife
Have Covid
Will he take Hydroxychlouroquine and Zinc ?
I hope so !!
(I personally believe it works if taken before
The viral bloom
Quote from: ramset on October 02, 2020, 10:29:46 AM
Here big story
US president and wife
Have Covid
Will he take Hydroxychlouroquine and Zinc ?
I hope so !!
He has already taken a fortnight's course with zinc and vitamin D.
Quote from: ramset on October 02, 2020, 10:29:46 AM
Here big story
US president and wife
Have Covid
He has coronavirus. The virus may or may not develop into
the disease Covid-19.
It's a bit like the difference between HIV and AIDS.
Quote from: hartiberlin on October 01, 2020, 10:27:18 PM
Yes, please don´t post personal mails without permission...
Regards, Stefan.
I would have hoped that you might have expressed concern that someone
who has been with you since the Free-energy Yahoogroup was accused of
being a Russian agent intent on the destruction of the free world.
I'm not convinced this site is an improvement.
Paul-R
With respect to us being labelled Communist trolls who want to see America and other free countries destroyed...
Everyone has a right to there own opinion however the problems arise when people assume a difference in opinion somehow makes them less human or have a malicious intent which is simply not true. As well, most don't want to argue because we demand credible proof to substantiate any claim we or others make. In this respect everyone is equal on common ground... if you make a claim then prove it.
It's a strange new world and up would seem to have become down and those demanding proof and defending truth and democracy have become communist trolls or terrorists. I would ask that everyone try to tone it down and justify there opinions versus posting repetitive propaganda and making accusations not based on facts.
It's kind of mind boggling that many trump supporters would speak of communism when trump basically said he won't accept the democratic election results if he loses and he will gerry rig the supreme court to effectively force a coup based on unsubstantiated claims. Trump also wants to do away with limited terms in office and asked foreign agents to interfere in the election. I mean, if that isn't a clear and present threat to democracy then I'm not sure what is... were in big trouble in my opinion.
Regards
Quote from: onepower on October 02, 2020, 12:50:21 PM
I would ask that everyone try to tone it down and justify there opinions versus posting repetitive propaganda and making accusations not based on facts.
This is the age old problem: how do you react to bullies and lies? Or even graver, how do you react to violence? There also is verbal violence!
And if the topic is politics, there will be contrary opinions expresses with verbal violence. Thank god, nobody can reach through to screen for physical violence.
The TV debate between Trump and Biden showed it clearly, the bully took over and lets the moderate person look weak. I would not go into a TV debate with a bully, one can not win unless the bully is thrown out, which is not possible.
The same here in this forum, the more radical and full of falseness a post is, the better it looks, because it pretends that the world is simple and can be governed with simple verbal and physical violence.
I do not have a solution. Not debating also means the bully will win. May be, therefor we always have war after some years of peace. To me the world, and particularly the US, look ripe for war. And of course it is always the fault of the enemy.
But even over technical topics people start to fight. What do you do with outrageous claims which are clearly false? And the people who make this far out claims are not easy going, they usually discredit you immediately. Of course far out claims are often ridiculed (also by me) which raises the blood pressure of the person making the outrageous claim. And so it goes on and on.
Greetings, Conrad
Quote from: hartiberlin on October 01, 2020, 10:27:18 PM
Yes, please don´t post personal mails without permission...
P.S. it is sad to see, that this Fake PCR test from Dr. Drosten is still be used,that can not say, if someone is really ill...
It has almost 90 percent flase positives and the governments use this PCR test to rampup the infected cases and plan and force a second lockdown,while noone is really anymore ill...
The hospitals are empty and the agenda Bill Gates want to get you force vaccinated with his RDNA
vaccine which changes your DNA and makes you heavily ill in about 2 years..
His Agenda is printed in the Geogia Guidestones, to reduce the world population to 500 Millions.In Australia, where they already have the 2nd lockdown they just released a new law, where the millitary can
fetch you, remove your clothes and will force vaccinate you...
In Germany already 3 small children died by having to wear the masks because oxygen was lacking...What a shame...
Here is a Bittube.video channel, where the Youtube censors have deleted these videos about it....
https://bittube.video/accounts/trendsvideos/videos (https://bittube.video/accounts/trendsvideos/videos)
Regards, Stefan.
Thanks Stefan and glad to see some intelligence back in this thread ;)
I don't know if some people posting here are actually oriented toward Communism but sometimes it seems that way. What I actually suspect is some people don't have nearly as much time as I do to research as much and as deeply as I have been doing. Either that or there are some very closed minded or low IQ individuals who are posting.
Now I don't even have to look around to back up what's going on all around us in regards to Communism although I could certainly provide a lot of links but this just popped up on Foxnews today: Fordham University in New York alleged ties to Chinese Communist party
https://www.foxnews.com/us/lawsuit-fordham-alleges-university-ties-chinese-communist-party (https://www.foxnews.com/us/lawsuit-fordham-alleges-university-ties-chinese-communist-party)
So McCarthyism - no it's the new way the CCP is trying to take over. Insert lots of Chinese Communists into a country - especially in teaching roles in Universities and in science labs to steal secrets and on forums and social media to influence people.
And then there was this recently from CNN: Chinese fugitive taken into custody as US claims Houston consulate was a part of espionage network.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/24/politics/us-china-consulate-accuse-espionage-network/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/24/politics/us-china-consulate-accuse-espionage-network/index.html)
And those are just two off the top - lots more if you look around. I do hope no one here actually thinks Communism is a good thing...
A few thoughts before I leave this message thread - for good.
Do you know what is the true source of all anger?
FEAR ...
Not all fear causes anger however the root cause of all anger IS FEAR. Think about it.
What has been happening all around us in 2020? Fear ... fear of getting Covid-19, fear of people not wearing masks, fear that wearing a mask is just a training for subjugation of worse things to come, fear of the police, fear of crime becoming out of control due to police defunding, fear of Trump winning, fear of Trump losing, fear of Communism and it's stepping stone socialism, fear of Capitalism, fear of white supremacy, fear of Black Lives Matter as it is a cover for Marxism, fear of black supremacy, fear of rioting, arson and looting and it just goes on and on.
Have you not noticed all these things being put out there this year in a way that causes fear?
What does a person or group do when they want to take control of a state, a country, the world? Divide and Conquer. They start by creating FEAR in many forms to eventually get everyone so angry they are fighting each other and at a certain point when things have really become total chaos they step in and take over since there is no unified group to fight against the conquering entity. People are so busy fighting each other they don't even see they are being conquered. A lot of people are saying things like 'the world has gone crazy'. Ask yourself what is behind all of this. It is very well hidden but the answers are there if you look hard enough.
Peace ....
"A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within.
Ariel Durant"
#334 : e2matrix,but you forget the " fake/synthetical fear", by organized "horror/terror"-movies for freetime overlapping !
Some needs for their boring,unproductive, life without real-world emotions artificial fear-moments !
Or artificial sexual emotions or artificial gladness !
There are some who probably forget : the internet is not the World ! And does not represent the World !
But it is a communication line from elsewhere !
For entertainment,for professional help sesrch,for search/find object satisfaction !
Beside Intranet and Darknet !
Specific foren are not political parl(i)aments where solutions becomes discussed and voted and decided !
I like to listen to people their open mind,specially when analphabets discuss between dis-/advantages from
a.philosophical b.political 'communism/socialism' and (f.e.Manchester-)'capitalism and take practical references from their own individual life in comparison to several historical trial/error/success examples up to the actually state !
Billionaers/multi-millionaers (in material Kg ownership,not in words) can be communists,but it is hard for a capitalist to become billionaer/(multi-)millionaer ;)
geographical language-dominion meaning and use :
"Es ist kommun(-al) = "in geral " : meaning ' it is standart/normal ,that ....."
Eine (Wohn-/Lebens-) Kommune ( many several meanings) = a County ,a "familia' /family(sagrada),....
SGB = Sozialgesetzbuch : Gesetz/law is singular,but it is a book with thousands of laws
so by grammar correctness we would have to write :Sozialgesetzebuch
Wem juckt es,orthographische Unkorrektheit ?
Is the sun fe-/male,the moon fe-/male ? Or each both ? By article in german die Sonne/ portuguese o sol,in german der Mond/in portuguese a lua !
Accepting/tolerating diversification !
E.U. nomen/object genus-standart/normation !? All 'neutrum' ?
Nomen et omen : docere to educate lehren
doctor/a or docent the educator the teacher der Lehrer
doctrin the knowledge/wisdom/science and credo
to know (ledge)= wissen(schafft Vieles) = scire/scientia/sciencia/science
Going to school and learning of others their "Weltbild" : DOCTRIN/ATION ,for the good/bad
To differ from Marylin Monroe and James Monroe Doctrin(e)
The last known for his continental-communistic slogan : America the Americans !
= Canada the Canadians
=U.S.A. the U.S.A.ians
=Mexiko the Mexicans
............
Happy weekend without real fear wishing
Sincerely
Quote from: e2matrix on October 03, 2020, 12:11:48 AM
A few thoughts before I leave this message thread - for good.
Do you know what is the true source of all anger?
FEAR ...
Here you go again - putting out a statement as if it were a fact.
It's your opinion and you're entitled to it. But you aren't entitled to call it a fact.In my view, it is wrong. There is plenty of anger around without fear - road rage, for instance.
In my view, what underlies anger is either an inability to handle an impeding crisis/situation or ignorance. Or both.
But it is only my opinion.
e2matrix
QuoteHave you not noticed all these things being put out there this year in a way that causes fear?
Not really and I look at the facts of any given matter.
Covid is a harmful virus which caused this pandemic so as a responsible adult I take basic precautions like washing my hands, social distancing and a mask in crowded places. That's not fear, it's common sense however I do find it strange that many are politicizing everything. A mask for example, if your a trump fan your not supposed to wear one to show your support which is bs. Also, not wearing a mask because it's supposedly some communist ploy when in fact even a child can understand it's to prevent the spread of the virus.
So in my opinion the real question is why supposedly responsible adults would throw common sense out the window for a political belief. I wouldn't and politics or fear has literally nothing to do with it... it's common sense.
Regards
Partial quote
Quote from: e2matrix on October 03, 2020, 12:11:48 AM
A few thoughts before I leave this message thread - for good.
Do you know what is the true source of all anger?
FEAR ...
Not all fear causes anger however the root cause of all anger IS FEAR. Think about it.
I agree, and so what if its a bit of an over simplification, but...
The fear of pain, fear of death, fear of loss of social stature, fear of being dominated, fear of ridicule, fear of being wrong, fear of being disrespected and so on seem to be what underlie anger.
floor
I going to post some opinion.
I can easily see the possibility of Bill Gates and other powers
that be, working to decrease world human population, by undisclosed means.
Some would even say that AIDS is a part of such a plan.
opinion
If the super powers (national, international or corporate) wanted to create, a lethal
and nearly unstoppable biologic / pathogen to rapidly decrease world population, this could be
done in short order, while also protecting some "special" portion of the population.
But it hasn't happened and Nature is just as likely to do this her self.
floor
Quote from: Floor on October 03, 2020, 04:38:23 PM
I can easily see the possibility of Bill Gates and other powers
that be, working to decrease world human population, by undisclosed means.
As far as I understood Bill Gates in the so called "proof videos", he really wants to decrease world population, but by giving the world good health care (including vaccines) and good education.
All industrialized countries experience population drop which is counter measured by migration. Without migration Vienna (Austria) would have 30% less inhabitants by now.
So, if you give people a fairly good life instead of poverty the population will drop. You see that clearly in the EU, Japan, Korea, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and the USA (and some I forgot).
One could scold Bill Gates that he does not want to stop migration. All industrialized nations make the grave error of trying to sustain so called "economic growth" by migration and Bill Gates seems to go along with that questionable wisdom.
In the US one can observe a strange contradiction: Donald Trump makes a strong anti migration point, but he supports industry and business in general who want to import as many people as possible to have cheap labour. The same happens in Austria where the ruling party also tries to impress people with a strong anti migration stance, but also supports migration to sustain economic growth.
Hardly anybody sees this contradiction voiced mainly by conservatives and the right wing.
Greetings, Conrad
Contradiction = Chaos = New order
"A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within"
Ariel Durant
A contradiction at the heart of the American system https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/473613-a-contradiction-at-the-heart-of-the-american-system (https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/473613-a-contradiction-at-the-heart-of-the-american-system)
The coronavirus butterfly effect: Six predictions for a new world order https://www.fastcompany.com/90488665/the-coronavirus-butterfly-effect-six-predictions-for-a-new-world-order (https://www.fastcompany.com/90488665/the-coronavirus-butterfly-effect-six-predictions-for-a-new-world-order)
Newest prediction of the worldwide humans number in 2100 : 8,8 billions instead the 11 billions expected by the last U.N. world habitants development study !
Some estates population will decrease up to 50%, Germany -after growing numbers up to 2035- loosing up to 20 millions habitants,down to 66 millions population !
And by increasing population statistical middle age : average 50 years
( from industrial view : pensionist-age)Probably by the beginning 2050 humans-free autonom factories and the old people society stay at home,their new life office !
There are often not logical reazons for pro-/anti-migration point of view,in the eastern german "Bundeslaender" ,with the lowest foreigner quote per habitants,is the greatest opposition against immigration ,but the government is calculating with 300 thousands per annum new foreign habitants,from other E.U-estates and elsewhere !
And the W.H.O/U.N.E.S.C.O./F.A.O. international conferences about people and world development are older than Bill Gates his age or the first Bilderberg-conference ( Prince Bernhard and Co. invitation !)
Reading the old historical textbooks we will find that the first nation with " morbide demography" was since 1900 FRANCE,more deaths and emmigration than births !
And before the Anti-Baby-pill society !
Many estates from the U.N.-organisation wrote education and school visit as an obligation/right in their constitution,educated females their fertility quote is lower than by analphabetes,fe-/male !
And a marriage minimum age !
Sincerely
Quote from: lancaIV on October 04, 2020, 08:57:01 AM
Newest prediction of the worldwide humans number in 2100 : 8,8 billions
Who predicted this?
Quote from: Paul-R on October 04, 2020, 09:36:58 AM
Who predicted this?
The club of Rome made this prediction (Jorgen Randers):
https://www.cisl.cam.ac.uk/resources/publication-pdfs/jorgen-randers-2052-a-global-forecast-for-the-next.pdf (https://www.cisl.cam.ac.uk/resources/publication-pdfs/jorgen-randers-2052-a-global-forecast-for-the-next.pdf)
Future population: When people think about the future, world population often comes first. My forecast, as you can see in Figure 1, is that the population will peak in 2040 at 8.1 billion people, and then start to decline and continue declining throughout the second half of this century. This is very low compared to the UN forecast, which talks about 9 billion people in 2050 and numbers rising from there. I have such a low forecast because I think fertility trends will continue downwards at the stupendous rate that has occurred over the past 40 years. (Jorgen Randers)
I (little unimportant me) also predict a falling world population. The reason will be global war because of climate change. Most resources (clean water, breathable air, land fit for agriculture, oil, gas, mineral resources) will soon become scarce and you and me will fight over it.
Greetings, Conrad
Quote from: Paul-R on October 04, 2020, 09:36:58 AM
Who predicted this?
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2FDeutschland-verliert-20-Millionen-Einwohner-article21990728.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2FDeutschland-verliert-20-Millionen-Einwohner-article21990728.html)
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30677-2/fulltext (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30677-2/fulltext)
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&pto=aue&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://www.n-tv.de/wissen/Studie-Weltbevoelkerung-schrumpft-ab-2064-article21911867.html&usg=ALkJrhh1Bwmg6TN8ykpG5TbdplNvDDgx3A (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&pto=aue&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://www.n-tv.de/wissen/Studie-Weltbevoelkerung-schrumpft-ab-2064-article21911867.html&usg=ALkJrhh1Bwmg6TN8ykpG5TbdplNvDDgx3A)
'Sponsored by the B.+ M. G. F.' let us assume that this did not influenced numbers and analytical calculations !
Quote from: lancaIV on October 04, 2020, 11:17:34 AM
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2FDeutschland-verliert-20-Millionen-Einwohner-article21990728.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2FDeutschland-verliert-20-Millionen-Einwohner-article21990728.html)
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30677-2/fulltext (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30677-2/fulltext)
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&pto=aue&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://www.n-tv.de/wissen/Studie-Weltbevoelkerung-schrumpft-ab-2064-article21911867.html&usg=ALkJrhh1Bwmg6TN8ykpG5TbdplNvDDgx3A (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&pto=aue&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://www.n-tv.de/wissen/Studie-Weltbevoelkerung-schrumpft-ab-2064-article21911867.html&usg=ALkJrhh1Bwmg6TN8ykpG5TbdplNvDDgx3A)
'Sponsored by the B.+ M. G. F.' let us assume that this did not influenced numbers and analytical calculations !
Thanks for that.
And so, world population is thought to increase for 44 years and then decrease.
What do you conclude from that?
Search machine entering with ' global population development 2100' shows as as result several predictions over the last ten years,"worst case(from ecological view) " up to 16 billions human habitants !
The first conclusion : less stress !
Dividing this 'world' in the actually 193 U.N.-Org. members show us different demographic situations and development,density/rural and urban/population middle age/peacefully society versus war-lords scene society, fertil ground versus desert et cetera .....
Development in progress ! Much to do ,for more than one generation !
Sincerely
Quote from: lancaIV on October 04, 2020, 04:31:32 PM
Search machine entering with ' global population development 2100' shows as as result several predictions over the last ten years,"worst case(from ecological view) " up to 16 billions human habitants.
I put that into Google and it said that the population in 2100 was "guestimated" to be somewhere between 6B and 16B.
But, of course, they are wrong because there may be none at all if the earth is hit by a large asteroid and split into 10,000 pieces to form a new asteriod belt.
i.e. this is not scientific research
Yes and the german S.P.D. helped Milosevic and his prosper visions to reach a political situation like the Balkan-war !
And the US army and allieds overthrowed Saddam Hussein and his Baath-party to reach the democratic life style from the I.S. and their Mekka-like philosopical centre ,by them called Rakka !
Scientific research ? U.N. and a general Powel with the written facts and images exposing ?
Clearly,predictions are based by humans their known habits and concerns,
there are not asteroids/black or white holes danger or intergalactical attack from unknown forces in the calculation included !
Ice melting and super-vulcano eruption I assume also not !
We ,as humanity, do give with studies and their results a help,to understand,how our behaviour from the past up to the actually moment will change the world living condition tomorrow
Included the (accelerated) extinction from flora & fauna
Sincerely
Quote from: lancaIV on October 04, 2020, 06:49:30 PM
Yes and the german S.P.D. helped Milosevic and his prosper visions to reach a political situation like the Balkan-war !
And the US army and allieds overthrowed Saddam Hussein and his Baath-party to reach the democratic life style from the I.S. and their Mekka-like philosopical centre ,by them called Rakka !
Scientific research ? U.N. and a general Powel with the written facts and images exposing ?
Clearly,predictions are based by humans their known habits and concerns,there are not asteroids/black or white holes danger or intergalactical attack from unknown forces in the calculation included !
Ice melting and super-vulcano eruption I assume also not !
Sincerely
Back in Roman times, they predicted the future based on cutting open a pigeon and examining its entrails. Probably equally dependable.
These estimates may be worth much to the estimators but nothing to anyone else.
Oh,Auguren - 'credo and wisdom' !? ::)
" Be carefull,the swallows fly low " like ? 8)
( what does this preview mean :o probably in the Auguren-handbook for beginners,page ? explained ;) )
Other take the rest(e) in the cup of cha( ironically the ' por ti = for you ! becamed denomination for ' tea' ~ drinking a cup of 'you' ; Boston ' you' party ; 5° clock ' you' time ;D )
Trust !?
Do we know who our grand-/parents are ,really ? Tested ?
In war-times(grandmothers age /WW2 ) often happened violations or the soldier-wife felt herself 'so alone'
Important ?
Do we know really our genetic line,specially Land-Lord-privileg 'Brautnacht/bridal night' related !?
Andere Zeiten,andere Sitten
Neue Zeiten,neue Sitten
Sincerely
Paul-R
QuoteI put that into Google and it said that the population in 2100 was "guestimated" to be somewhere between 6B and 16B.
But, of course, they are wrong because there may be none at all if the earth is hit by a large asteroid and split into 10,000 pieces to form a new asteriod belt.
i.e. this is not scientific research
In my opinion it is extremely unlikely the population could ever reach 16 billion because we cannot even mitigate the damage caused by 7 billion.
Even before the polar and mountain ice/snow is completely gone moderating temperature and water flow vast populated areas will be without water. No water means no life, no food and even now most groundwater is receding or polluted. As well most farmers are showing lower yields this year because the weather has become more extreme as either drought or flooding.
So while many seem to have no problem breeding like rabbits it doesn't matter because food, water, shelter and energy will be the mitigating factors. As it were, we are very close to being near peak population even with better technology because what were doing isn't sustainable. So this prediction of 16 billion people is pure fiction in my opinion.
Regards
Look at:
https://www.deagel.com/country/Germany
Current population: 81 million
Forecast 2025: only 28 Million left ! Uff... :o :o :o
What will happen in the next 5 years ?
Bill Gates winning giving and forcing upon us the Poison RDNA Vaxxine ??
hartiberlin
QuoteLook at:
https://www.deagel.com/country/Germany
From https://www.deagel.com/forecast
QuoteThe Great Reset; like the climate change, extinction rebellion, planetary crisis, green revolution, shale oil (...) hoaxes promoted by the system; is another attempt to slow down dramatically the consumption of natural resources and therefore extend the lifetime of the current system. It can be effective for awhile but finally won't address the bottom-line problem and will only delay the inevitable. The core ruling elites hope to stay in power which is in effect the only thing that really worries them.
So climate change, planetary crisis, green revolution ie. renewable/free energy and sustainability are a hoax because of the ruling elites?. You do understand Deagel believes Free Energy is a hoax don't you?.
Thankfully we know better and Free/renewable energy is obviously our future. I would suggest watching the documentary "The Social Dilemma" which explains how were all being duped by social media to believe in our worst fears so others can profit from it.
As well, it seems pretty obvious where this website is authored based on the false information it contains. From https://www.deagel.com/forecast...
QuoteThe Soviet system was less able to deliver goodies to the people than the Western one. Nevertheless Soviet society was more compact and resilient under an authoritarian regime.
They then go on to explain the virtues of how Russian communism is superior to Western and European civilizations. So it's basically a website trying to sell communism and fear in my opinion and we have to be careful because the language is very subtle. However the narrative is basically saying the western/european world is finished therefore we should join Russia-China and become Communists... I think I will pass.
Regards
QuoteI think I will pass.
Ditto👍
Quote from: hartiberlin on October 04, 2020, 11:34:40 PM
Look at:
https://www.deagel.com/country/Germany (https://www.deagel.com/country/Germany)
Current population: 81 million
Forecast 2025: only 28 Million left ! Uff... :o :o :o
What will happen in the next 5 years ?
Bill Gates winning giving and forcing upon us the Poison RDNA Vaxxine ??
Deagel purports to be a military technical site, a poor man's "Janes". It isn't. It is a load of crap. Look at it's run down of the USA armed forces. It is nonsense.
It's population forecasts amount to no more than an exercise in typing.
(p.s. Please stop people posting huge images, Stefan. https://ipiccy.com (https://ipiccy.com) will fix it. It messes up the presentation of posts, with a massive horizontal scroll bar).
...how do I delete this post?
Quote from: hartiberlin on October 04, 2020, 11:34:40 PM
Look at:
https://www.deagel.com/country/Germany (https://www.deagel.com/country/Germany)
Current population: 81 million
Forecast 2025: only 28 Million left ! Uff... :o :o :o
What will happen in the next 5 years ?
Bill Gates winning giving and forcing upon us the Poison RDNA Vaxxine ??
Assuming that this comparison numbers were from 2017 it would have been more interestant the reazon of/for this numerical change and the yearly prediction 2017-2018-2019-...2022-2023-2024-2025 !
It would give the authors more credibiliy and faster 'prognosis quality ' expertise !
So this is only a neutral number dropping,without parameters !
We have to wait for the year 2026, for the review ! ::)
Sincerely
Quote from: Paul-R on October 05, 2020, 05:37:16 AM
Deagel purports to be a military technical site, a poor man's "Janes". It isn't. It is a load of crap. Look at it's run down of the USA armed forces. It is nonsense.
It's population forecasts amount to no more than an exercise in typing.
(p.s. Please stop people posting huge images, Stefan. https://ipiccy.com (https://ipiccy.com) will fix it. It messes up the presentation of posts, with a massive horizontal scroll bar).
I mean in the year 2015 was an article in "Janes" about the program from a military war conflict between the U.S.A. and the PRC ! It was shortly theme in the news l
Beginning 2027 !
Conventional,nuclear,hypersonic !?
Pacific west coast 2026/2027 : is it good to have Boing,Alphabet,Tesla,Microsoft shares ?
Andre Kostolany : kaufen,wenn die Kanonen donnern ( und die Raketen fliegen)
Prediction/preview trustfull ? Article-information from which secret !?) source ?
Scire = to know credere = to believe
There are some whose believe that the past was better and there are some believing that the future will be better
Sincerely
#352 :
Thomas Robert Malthus,1798 theory about population development and " scientific law'- definition
Praemisse,Deduction,Prognose
Rezeption: acceptance and theory reference
Bodenertrag und Nahrungsmittelversorgungssicherheit und 'Burg-/Landfrieden
A.John Stuart Mill
+ B. Gold his standart : 1 ounze ~ bushel wheat (1 ounze silver ~ 1/? ounze gold)
+ C. national currency : 1 financial unit ~ ? Gr. a.silver b. gold
+ D. Gregory King's-(Davenant-) rule : wheat as instrument for psychological fear/losts/hunger/riots
But :
Since 1944,Bretton Woods- conference : no,anymore, goldstandart( ergo no equivalent silver-standart)
= no population barrier
Many ex-colonies becomed independent since 1944 !
More physiological and by consequence psychological ' stressed' societies :with higher inner-state civil war risk and bi-national/international war risk or war happening
When we change the parameters then we change theories their fixpoints !
Linear prognosis to ' open end dynamics' !
Sincerely
Quote from: hartiberlin on October 04, 2020, 11:34:40 PM
Look at:
https://www.deagel.com/country/Germany (https://www.deagel.com/country/Germany)
Current population: 81 million
Forecast 2025: only 28 Million left ! Uff... :o :o :o
What will happen in the next 5 years ?
Bill Gates winning giving and forcing upon us the Poison RDNA Vaxxine ??
Do not fear Bill Gates and the RNDNA vaccines in Germany! The EU ordered 300 million doses of "University of Oxford and AstraZeneca" monkey virus vaccine. So, you could turn into a monkey!
There will be 28 million germans left by 2025, the difference to 81 millions will have turned into monkeys by then. This is the hidden truth in "the planet of the apes" story. Not the apes become more human like, it is the humans turning into ape like creatures.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_of_the_Apes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_of_the_Apes) Of course, the mainstream depicts the "the planet of the apes story" as being merely some movies.
https://www.astrazeneca.com/media-centre/press-releases/2020/statement-on-astrazeneca-oxford-sars-cov-2-vaccine-azd1222-covid-19-vaccine-trials-temporary-pause.html (https://www.astrazeneca.com/media-centre/press-releases/2020/statement-on-astrazeneca-oxford-sars-cov-2-vaccine-azd1222-covid-19-vaccine-trials-temporary-pause.html)
AZD1222 was co-invented by the University of Oxford and its spin-out company, Vaccitech. It uses a replication-deficient chimpanzee viral vector based on a weakened version of a common cold virus (adenovirus) that causes infections in chimpanzees and contains the genetic material of the SARS-CoV-2 virus spike protein. After vaccination, the surface spike protein is produced, priming the immune system to attack the SARS-CoV-2 virus if it later infects the body.
Greetings, Conrad (I will take the Bill Gates vaccine, because I do not want to become a monkey or ape or chimp)
::) Conrad,could it be that you are vaccinated ? ;D
Not ' planet of the apes' but more ' planet of the Spassvoegel' ? ;)
Bei einigen piepts es hier aber ' jewaltisch' !
Sincerely
Some honest people with a mission: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5NsnjyWhqo
To catch: https://www.bertelsmann.comisions/arvato/#st-1 (https://www.bertelsmann.comisions/arvato/#st-1)
"Liebe" und "Hass" sind persoenliche Einstellungen = Meinung bezueglich Objekte (im-/materieller Art) !
Ob ein Kommentar gut oder schlecht ist,veraendert nicht den Zustand objektiv,stellt nur den Eindruck des Kommentierenden fest,aber es besteht die Unsicherheit,ob
a.persoenliche Meinungsfreiheit
b. gezielte und kommerziell bezahlte,meinungsveraendern wollende,Beitraege politischer Gruppen Zeck der Aeusserung darstellt
Naja,ist mit dem Briefkasten genauso : ungebetene Werbung Abhilfe : Robinson-Liste
Oder das stoerende Klingeln,am Besten wenn es gerade nicht passt,irgendwelcher Sektierer( Hierbei nicht Sekt-orientierte Alkoholiker sondern missionierende Sekten-Anhaenger gemeint)
Dass 'facebook' sich von 'mainstream'-professionals beraten/servieren laesst ist dementsprechend nicht verwunderlich,nur ob die Qualitaet der Dienste hoch ist moegen einige,insbesonders nach den demoskopischen Wahlprognosefehlgriffen in den letzten Jahren,bezweifeln !
Beide Beitraege verbinden : die Deutsche Bank und die Eigentuemerschaft der CLT,Bertelsmann ist ja eine Stiftung,nebst Genossenschaft
Quote from: lancaIV on October 05, 2020, 06:56:22 AM
I mean in the year 2015 was an article in "Janes" about the program from a military war conflict between the U.S.A. and the PRC
The point is that Janes has clout and substance. Deagel does not. It is just a shadow site to give an impression of importance.
Paul-R
QuoteThe point is that Janes has clout and substance. Deagel does not. It is just a shadow site to give an impression of importance.
Agreed, it begs the question why a supposed military arms website would be trying to peddle Communism and baseless conspiracy theories?...
QuoteThe Great Reset; like the climate change, extinction rebellion, planetary crisis, green revolution, shale oil (...) hoaxes promoted by the system; is another attempt to slow down dramatically the consumption of natural resources and therefore extend the lifetime of the current system. It can be effective for awhile but finally won't address the bottom-line problem and will only delay the inevitable. The core ruling elites hope to stay in power which is in effect the only thing that really worries them.
It's a joke and has zero credibility in my opinion.
Regards
Quote from: lancaIV on October 05, 2020, 07:47:39 AM
::) Conrad,could it be that you are vaccinated ? ;D
Not ' planet of the apes' but more ' planet of the Spassvoegel' ? ;)
Bei einigen piepts es hier aber ' jewaltisch' !
Sincerely
Some claims I read in this thread are very outlandish and stii the posters seem to take themselves seriously. It is hard to come up with something even crazier. But I try hard to beat them with even more outlandish claims.
I am not sure yet whether to believe my own claims.
The latest thing I heard: Merkel will retire to South America and Sebastian Kurz will become leading candidate of CSU/CDU in the next election in Germany in the fall of 2021. Till 2024 Kurtz will then be chancellor of Germany and Austria. There will be no unification, Kurz will spend alternating months in Germany and Austria.
There are already about 200.000 Germans living in Austria because they voted for Kurz with their feet (by moving to Austria). The other 80 million Germans do not have to move to Austria, they can have Kurz full time after 2024.
https://kurier.at/politik/inland/immer-mehr-deutsche-leben-in-oesterreich/400488910 (more and more Germans live in Austria)Greetings, Conrad
Conrad
QuoteThere will be 28 million germans left by 2025, the difference to 81 millions will have turned into monkeys by then. This is the hidden truth in "the planet of the apes" story. Not the apes become more human like, it is the humans turning into ape like creatures.
The biggest difference between an ape and man is that man not only believes in science and facts... they invented them.
On another very interesting note...
Recently a scientific study was done to determine if apes believed in fake news/conspiracy theories as many people seem to. So a researcher would open a box and get a banana and the ape would repeat what they learned and do the same. A child could also repeat the procedure doing the same thing by opening the box and getting the banana.
Then the researcher would make some hand motions over the box, tap it three times, say a word, open the box and get the banana. The child repeated the exact same procedure as the researcher doing the hand motions, tapped it three times, said the magic word and opened the box. However... only the ape was smart enough to know all the hocus pocus hand motions and magic words were bs so it just opened the box and took the banana.
You see apes don't buy into bs and only see the factual reality of any given situation like science does unlike gullible humans who will believe almost anything. There is a lesson here, don't believe the bs, look at the facts.
Regards
Quote from: onepower on October 05, 2020, 01:25:41 PM
Conrad
The biggest difference between an ape and man is that man not only believes in science and facts... they invented them.
On another very interesting note...
Recently a scientific study was done to determine if apes believed in fake news/conspiracy theories as many people seem to. So a researcher would open a box and get a banana and the ape would repeat what they learned and do the same. A child could also repeat the procedure doing the same thing by opening the box and getting the banana.
Then the researcher would make some hand motions over the box, tap it three times, say a word, open the box and get the banana. The child repeated the exact same procedure as the researcher doing the hand motions, tapped it three times, said the magic word and opened the box. However... only the ape was smart enough to know all the hocus pocus hand motions and magic words were bs so it just opened the box and took the banana.
You see apes don't buy into bs and only see the factual reality of any given situation like science does unlike gullible humans who will believe almost anything. There is a lesson here, don't believe the bs, look at the facts.
Regards
If your researcher make box activated by voice (magic word) then your ape is in lots of trouble,
and kid got the banana.
You think good, but you always think about only one solution, linear thinking.
Like that ape from your story.
Quote from: Gear on October 05, 2020, 02:15:09 PM
...make box activated by voice (magic word)....
Where does he say that the box was "activated" by voice?
EDIT: Ooops! Perhaps I misunderstood. My thinking must also be linear ;D
This is called ' Varianz' !
The evolution did not invent apes or humans for ' box experiment' ,each spezies has his dis-/advantage !
Sincerely
Quote from: NdaClouDzzz on October 05, 2020, 02:32:55 PM
Where does he say that the box was "activated" by voice?
EDIT: Ooops! Perhaps I misunderstood. My thinking must also be linear ;D
Quote from: onepower on October 05, 2020, 01:25:41 PM
, said the magic word and opened the box. However... only the ape was smart enough to know all the hocus pocus hand motions and magic words were bs so it just opened the box and took the banana.
You see apes don't buy into bs and only see the factual reality of any given situation like science does unlike gullible humans who will believe almost anything. There is a lesson here, don't believe the bs, look at the facts.
Regards
You are not thinking linear, just do not read whole post.
If box have electronics for activation by voice, ape will fail and kid will succeed.
And that is what makes difference between ape and human.
Little bit more complexity and for ape it is impossible.
Same difference is between aliens and humans. Same.
Gear
QuoteIf your researcher make box activated by voice (magic word) then your ape is in lots of trouble,
and kid got the banana.
True, however that was not the point.
The research was to study why humans fall for fake news and conspiracy theories by imitating others due to a perceived self-interest. As it were, the study showed many people will believe almost anything no matter how absurd without thinking about it. Not unlike the child waving his hands and saying supposedly magic words thinking it had something to do with getting a reward. Which may relate to the phrase... there's a sucker born every minute.
The ape was simply a control or bias in the experiment to see if other primates could be manipulated like humans. As it turns out the apes were not fooled and stuck to the facts they knew versus imaginary things. Thus it was theorized that most people do not learn by thinking about something more so imitating others with similar beliefs or goals.
I thought it was really interesting and explains why many intelligent people can be manipulated to believe things which are obviously not based on facts but hearsay.
Regards
Quote from: onepower on October 05, 2020, 07:16:25 PM
I thought it was really interesting and explains why many intelligent people can be manipulated to believe things which are obviously not based on facts but hearsay.
Regards
I understand your point!
It is matter of choice. Just like hypnosis.
If I choose not to be manipulated, it will be very hard to do it.
Question everything, remember?
You said that to me.
It takes effort, but you always know what is happening.
But your point is good.
Now, let me ask you simple question outside the box?
How many people here and in whole world thinks that in
past million years nobody in universe claimed Earth as his/it's property,
and that humans are owner of this planet?
If we do not learn how to open your box properly,
we could end up like civilization before us.
Why the aliens are so disturbed when we started to use nukes?
1. Because they are concerned about humans?
2. Because they are concerned about their property, planet (garden).
Dont forget, we are apes to them!
If we disappear, they will use genetics and overnight make more of us
or similar to us.
Do you believe that Earth is in our possesion?
And we can do what ever we want?
Whatisit
QuoteIt is matter of choice. Just like hypnosis.
If I choose not to be manipulated, it will be very hard to do it.
Question everything, remember?
You said that to me.
It takes effort, but you always know what is happening.
It's kind of a catch 22 in my opinion. I can make the conscious choice not to be manipulated and choose option A rather than B. However how do I know someone or algorithm didn't manipulate our thoughts towards B?. So we should question everything but also focus on our intent, beliefs as well as cause and effect.
QuoteDo you believe that Earth is in our possesion?
And we can do what ever we want?
The universe is infinite, this planet supposedly 4.5 billion years old but we would be lucky to live 80 years. We can't possess it when were dead so at best it's a rental in that respect. I'm biased as a farmer and believe we are caretakers for future generations. So we should leave this planet better than when we were born into it in my opinion.
A better question might be how would an advanced intelligence approach the subject of possessing material things. If we merged 3D printing with nano-technology/transmutation we could create almost anything from scratch for ourselves in the future. So what value do possessions have when we could possess almost anything we wanted?. As such I would think advanced and intelligent beings would have moved beyond the superficial nature of material possessions.
Regards
We are all PROGRAMED to be who we are. So just like the computer programmer knows how to manipulate the computer, our PROGRAMMERS know how to manipulate us! https://youtu.be/71Rv33F7ok0 (https://youtu.be/71Rv33F7ok0)
Quote from: NdaClouDzzz on October 07, 2020, 02:07:42 AM
We are all PROGRAMED to be who we are. So just like the computer programmer knows how to manipulate the computer, our PROGRAMMERS know how to manipulate us! https://youtu.be/71Rv33F7ok0 (https://youtu.be/71Rv33F7ok0)
You linked to David Icke?
Quote from: Paul-R on October 07, 2020, 06:31:38 AM
You linked to David icle?
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/miss%20the%20forest%20for%20the%20trees (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/miss%20the%20forest%20for%20the%20trees)
Quote from: NdaClouDzzz on October 07, 2020, 09:04:26 AM
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/miss%20the%20forest%20for%20the%20trees (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/miss%20the%20forest%20for%20the%20trees)
This has nothing to do with either wood or trees.
;D
Mass People have even more hunger in the World because:
Epidemie oder Pandemie ?
Die Hoehe der Krankenanzahl entscheidet !Unabhaengig der dafuer unbedeutenden Todesrate,welche selbst ja kaum erfassbar darstellt :
" mit oder an " SARS verstorben !
Es ist eine Gesundheitssystem(-Budget-) Belastungskrise,neben Schwersterkrankte/Intensivpflegebettenzahl ratio
natuerlich auch um die Pro Kopf-Behandlungskosten,welche sich ja international bis zu 1,1 Mio US$ Gesamtrechnung (Klinikaufenthaltskosten Seattle ,U.S.A.) belaufen koennen !
Johan,wuerden Sie an irgendein Wehwehchen erkranken und Ihnen dann nach erfolgter Genesung eine Behandlungsgegenrechnung ueber 100 TSD,200 TSD,.... US$/€ gegeben werden,bar zu bezahlen,ja dann wuerden Sie wohl " Insolvenz" anmelden duerfen !?
Besonderheit als Fallmoeglichkeit : monatelange Krankenhaus-Kurierung ,bei taeglich mindestens 1500 Euros Kosten,Patient stirbt,Angehoerige haben aber die angelaufenen Kosten ( aus dem Erbe ,+ X ?) zu tragen !
Zynisch "Operation gelungen- Patient tot " ergo " Auszer Spesen Nichts gewesen " !
Volles Individuum-Risiko versus Sozialsystemrisiko -Verteilung !
Idee : Superspreader zulassen,aber fuer Infektionen Anderer 100% Vollhaftung fuer Gesundheitssystemkosten,Areitgeberkosten des Arbeitsausfalls wegen vorsaetzlicher Gefaerdung mit zu uebernehmen !
Also jedes unverhuetete AHA-event als 100 TSD/200 TSD,300 .... Verlust-Lotterie-Spektakel,pro Infektionsfall !?
Parlamentarische Politiker miszbrauchen das Sozialsystem : Ja !Aber auch viele duemmliche "Verschwoerungstheoretiker" tuen dieses bei vorsaetzlicher Erkrankungsgefaehrdung !
Ein Toter ist fuer das Sozialsystem billiger als ein langfristig chronisch Erkrankter !
Wie hoch ist die tatsaechliche ( Test-Kit und Laborpersonal Qualitaet !) Infektionsrate,dieses entscheidet ueber Epidemie oder Pandemie Deklaration !
Wieviele Tote als Resultat, ob : maennlich/weiblich/transisch;jung/alt;gesund/vor-erkrankt;arm/reich ist dabei unerheblich
MfG
There is great confusion concerning numbers in some conspiracy circles.
In Austria there are 713 intensive care hospital beds. At the moment 97 Covid 19 patients occupy intensive care beds (and other intensive care patients may need such beds).
In Austria there are 9510 ordinary hospital beds. At the moment 464 Covid 19 patients occupy beds (and of cours other sick persons need these beds).
Once the number of Covid 19 patients (together with all other patients) exceeds the capacity of the Austria hospitals we have a problem which has to be avoided.
Austria has about 9 Million inhabitants and about 10.000 hospital beds. There are hospital beds for about 0.1 percent of the population (for all sorts of sicknesses not only Covid 19).
So, great conclusion, if more than 0.1 percent of the inhabitants of Austria need to be hospitalised the system collapses. And this has to be avoided and it is all about this.
We know from Italy, England, New York, Spain, France, and others that it has collapsed in the sense, that not all Covid 19 patients who would need hospital treatment can be treated.
Greetings, Conrad
Quote from: conradelektro on October 12, 2020, 09:00:46 AM
We know from Italy, England, New York, Spain, France, and others that it has collapsed in the sense, that not all Covid 19 patients who would need hospital treatment can be treated.
Where did this come from?
As far as England (I presume you mean Britain) is concerned,
this is nonsense. The NHS always had a large number of spare
ventilators. LOX was nver an issue and neither were bed spaces.
Quote from: Paul-R on October 12, 2020, 09:32:33 AM
Where did this come from?
As far as England (I presume you mean Britain) is concerned,
this is nonsense. The NHS always had a large number of spare
ventilators. LOX was nver an issue and neither were bed spaces.
It comes from here:
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2020/10/uk-older-people-in-care-homes-abandoned-to-die-amid-government-failures-during-covid-19-pandemic/ (https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2020/10/uk-older-people-in-care-homes-abandoned-to-die-amid-government-failures-during-covid-19-pandemic/)
https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/14798 (https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/14798)
But you might not believe it depending on your political hangups. Of course, Great Britain is the greatest country on earth run by the best politicians. No problem at all with Covid 19.
Greetings, Conrad
#381 :
Why " England ges. " and not "Vereinigte Koenigreich /United Kingdom" or "Great Britain / Gross-Britannien " ?
By given number about habitants : 66,65 Mio.
it is clearly meant : England + Wales + Schottland + Northern Ireland
But how fast it changes : 2019 66,65 Mio
2020 67,99 Mio October ,12 www.worldometers.info (http://www.worldometers.info)
OVER 1 MILLION NEW HABITANTS IN 1 YEAR ?! :o
This number hight is similar Germany 2015 "Angie,help !" 'forced' migration number !
1,3/67,99 Mio. ~ 1,9% GB 2019/2020 versus 1,5/83,5 Mio. ~ 1,8% DE 2015/2016
Johan,you assume that Germany habitants number 2020 is equal the (20)17/18 habitants ,no in-/de-crease !?
Quote from: conradelektro on October 12, 2020, 10:32:37 AM
It comes from here:
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2020/10/uk-older-people-in-care-homes-abandoned-to-die-amid-government-failures-during-covid-19-pandemic/ (https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2020/10/uk-older-people-in-care-homes-abandoned-to-die-amid-government-failures-during-covid-19-pandemic/)
https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/14798 (https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/14798)
But you might not believe it depending on your political hangups. Of course, Great Britain is the greatest country on earth run by the best politicians. No problem at all with Covid 19.
Greetings, Conrad
Good references. A nice change.
In the case of the first, there was a disgraceful policy breakdown re
care homes. There was appalling incometence, possibly culpable.There is to be a major inquiry and this will have a chapter to itself.
In the case of the second, it is dated April. Hopelessly out of date.
The reality is that the government took over a massive international
conference centre and converted it into a 4,000 bed hospital with all facilities. It was never used. (I believe it has since been used for non covid overspill, a handful of beds).
But a tribute for using good sources. The IFS deserves a good slapping for not keeping up to date. The UK has had and continues to have bad problems and have a massive upturn currently up in Liverpool. But it is
vital to try and understand the true issue which is that the problem is
new and nobody understands what the best solutions are.
The biggest fools are those who think they know.
In regards to the subject/topic question: "Bill Gates - will he try to force vaccinate you soon"?
My answer would be NO. Why would anyone need to "force vaccinate" when any sinister ingredient posited here could easily be put into those flu vaccines that millions jump in line for every year?
EDIT: The only reason any forcing would come into play is if THEY wanted to stir the pot for some greater/other agenda.
Bill Gates is the least of our worries watch this ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFRxcqNf114
WTF is Wrong with Trump Supporters Part 3
The whole video series is just mind boggling how messed up some people are. This isn't some unproven conspiracy but video of trump supporters arguing the virtues of pedophilia, wtf?.
Regards
Quote from: onepower on October 13, 2020, 01:07:04 AM
Bill Gates is the least of our worries watch this ...
I watched the entire series. Just WOW!
This guy is so spot-on:
"In my opinion, when a country becomes this stupid, it can not and will not survive".https://youtu.be/XLQe0D1Im0U?t=431 (https://youtu.be/XLQe0D1Im0U?t=431)
"A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within". Ariel Durant
The Egyptian research scientists have apparently done tests on vaccines and com to the conclusion that the Mercury in them is responsible for
denture in vaccine users and autism in children.
I don't necessarily agree with the findings my self but it stands a very good chance indeed!
Quote from: onepower on October 13, 2020, 01:07:04 AM
Bill Gates is the least of our worries watch this ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFRxcqNf114 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFRxcqNf114)
WTF is Wrong with Trump Supporters Part 3
The whole video series is just mind boggling how messed up some people are. This isn't some unproven conspiracy but video of trump supporters arguing the virtues of pedophilia, wtf?.
Regards
You really are brainwashed. This is obviously a vid put together by someone with TDS as an anti Trump tool to try to prevent his reelection. In truth it is the democrats (DemonicRATS) the likes of Hillary Clinton and far left liberal elites like you have in Hollywood and California who are pro-pedo types. California recently passed a law lessening such crimes. Hillary found in her own video with a book stacked under her laptop with Satanic sexual images of all sorts of vile.
Just why is it that someone who lives in Canada - you onepower - is so concerned in pushing an agenda to keep Trump out of office?
Quote from: e2matrix on October 13, 2020, 01:58:15 PM
Just why is it that someone who lives in Canada - you onepower - is so concerned in pushing an agenda to keep Trump out of office?
I think you'll find that AC's attitude is across the planet. Many of us are amazed that such an ignorant, insensitve oaf who is held in contempt worldwide was elected. We are encouraged that 65m voted Dem but are astounded that 62m voted for that goon and the electoral system put him in.
If the Cuban missile crisis had happened on his watch, then stuff would have occured.
Für solche Deppen opfern wir unsere Steuern!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV7U0qZy6zQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV7U0qZy6zQ)
e2matrix
QuoteQuote from: onepower on October 13, 2020, 07:07:04 AM
Bill Gates is the least of our worries watch this ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFRxcqNf114
WTF is Wrong with Trump Supporters Part 3
The whole video series is just mind boggling how messed up some people are. This isn't some unproven conspiracy but video of trump supporters arguing the virtues of pedophilia, wtf?.
Regards
QuoteJust why is it that someone who lives in Canada - you onepower - is so concerned in pushing an agenda to keep Trump out of office?
I care because we share a border, we are major trading partners and we are more alike than different. If the U.S. continues to degenerate under trump it will effect everyone and the planet. Trump has made it clear he is against clean energy and for fossil fuels and the status quo so a better question is why you support him?. Are you against clean free energy?.
The fact remains that no person or country is immune from what happens globally, everything effects everything else in some way. Which begs the question why everyone is not more concerned with what is happening in the U.S. and why there not speaking up. Understand, if your country continues to degenerate and breaks out in civil war that has major consequences for the rest of the free world. So yes I am very concerned because I value my freedom and independence.
Regards
Wow, the light ......... ?!
Die Grippe ( von der Pseudo-Grippe = Erkaeltung zu unterscheiden )ist eine infektioese Erkrankung !
Die durch die verschiedenen Corona-Virus/Virionen-Arten moegliche Erkrankung ist ebenso infektioes,ansteckbar !
Das - EINZIG- ist das Problem in unserer Arbeits-Welt,Johan !
Jeder Patient mit Symptomen faellt als Arbeitnehmer aus,jeder Patient als " potentieller Spreader", bei infektioeser Grippe oder Corona-SARS, hat sich in Quarantaene zu begeben !
Unsere Gesellschaft ist scheinbar nicht mehr Verhaltens-Haftung und dazu deren Durchfuehrung gewohnt !
Juristische Ahndung und materialistisch-monetaerer Schadensersatz !
Es steht dem gemeinen Buerger frei scheinbar "verantwortunglos" zu handeln,die buergerlichen sozialen Gesetzesbuecher geben Auskunft ueber den Verhaltens-Kodex eines jeden bei Epidemie/Pandemie -Situationen !
Lassen Eltern " bewuszt erkrankte Kinder "zum Spreaden" aus : Eltern haften fuer Ihre strafunmuendigen Kinder !
Bei einer 50 -koepfigen Belegschaft,welche eventuell sich in Quarantaene begeben muss,bedeutet dieses moeglicherweise Verlust von " Haus und Hof " !
Verdienstausfall,unternehmerische Umsatzausfall,Krankheitssystem-Kosten,Gerichtskosten :
250 000 Euros ,ohne Schmerzensgeld(-Anspruch), sind schnell erreicht !
Bei Wissen der Umstaende : vorsaetzliche Koerperverletzung ,bei Todesfolge : vorsatzlicher Totschlag !
Hier also ,neben hohen Entschaedigungskosten zusaetzlich Haftstrafe !
Gilt fuer alle infektioesen Potentiale,Seuchen-Gesetz !
Die aufgeklaerte Gesellschaft lebe : "Hoch,Hoch,Hoch !" ;) Nun : Prosit ! (In Maszen )
MfG
p.s.: Psalmen sind ganz nett,aber Paragraphen und Artikel,niedergeschrieben und zeitgueltig,sind wirksamer
Orthodoxe Anwendung und die Welt deren "Pyramide" wandelt sich schnell " flach"
insbesonders bezueglich Straf-Verjaehrungsfristen ,bei schwerem " organisiertem " Betrug 30 + 3 Jahre, bei Mord : NIE !
Dabei koennen Justizflucht-orientierte Stiftungsgruendungen rueckwirkend wieder aufgeloest werden
Das bedeutet rechtlich wirksam, dass bei heutigem Jahresdatum 2020 - nun bei schwerem Betrug bis auf das Jahr 1987 die seinerzeitig
geltenden Gesetze und Strafmasz anzuwenden ist,also Maastricht/Vertrag von Lissabon unwirksam !
Nehme man den BGB dieser Zeit zu Haenden : Zuchthaus + Arbeitslager-Dienst als moegliches Strafurteil
Ehemalige organisierte Politbuero-/Wirtschaftsgroessen beim Umschlagslecken oder Steineklopfen !
Welch heiteres Bild ! ;D
Paul-R
QuoteI think you'll find that AC's attitude is across the planet. Many of us are amazed that such an ignorant, insensitve oaf who is held in contempt worldwide was elected. We are encouraged that 65m voted Dem but are astounded that 62m voted for that goon and the electoral system put him in.
If the Cuban missile crisis had happened on his watch, then stuff would have occured.
It's kind of mind boggling that politics is the only occupation that requires no former experience or skills beyond convincing people to vote for them. However here we see a person completely unfit for the job with no leadership or diplomatic skills being elected to lead an entire country. I mean, why not just cherry pick some used car salesman off a lot somewhere to control the most powerful country?. Then we could just give away medical degrees to anyone who has a hankering to become a doctor. Why anyone who can use there words and count to 10 could become a lawyer or banker.
I think this nonsense was bound to happen and Socrates the Greek philosopher predicted it would.
QuoteSocrates- If you were heading out on a journey by sea, asks Socrates, who would you ideally want deciding who was in charge of the vessel? Just anyone or people educated in the rules and demands of seafaring? The latter of course, says Adeimantus, so why then, responds Socrates, do we keep thinking that any old person should be fit to judge who should be a ruler of a country? Socrates's point is that voting in an election is a skill, not a random intuition. And like any skill, it needs to be taught systematically to people. Letting the citizenry vote without an education is as irresponsible as putting them in charge of a trireme sailing to Samos in a storm.
Which may explain why all of the most dysfunctional countries erupting in chaos generally elect people unfit to lead based on there emotions not facts. Strange that Socrates knew this thousands of years ago yet many today still don't understand it. I think Socrates nailed it, if people want to elect someone unfit to chart the correct course based on facts there going to end up on the rocks.
Regards
From the World Doctors Alliance the statements of doctors, scientists, experts in epidemiology and others with knowledge of the situation say there is NO evidence of a medical pandemic. They say there is no reason for masks and lockdowns anymore. In Netherlands 87,000 nurses say the do not want the vaccine.
The World Doctors Alliance are starting a class action lawsuit and are planning a Nuremburg type trial of the perpetrators of this HOAX and PLANdemic. Watch, listen and learn the truth:
https://youtu.be/DZitDEI7EgM
https://acu2020.org/english-versions/
https://covileaks.co.uk
Peddling back:
https://www.n-tv.de/wissen/Covid-19-weniger-toedlich-als-vermutet-article22104272.html?fbclid=IwAR23JdombI9ObouuhfgbLPlkDixntIMU02tFxfvG79z5CS2m-sLNh6txTa0 (https://www.n-tv.de/wissen/Covid-19-weniger-toedlich-als-vermutet-article22104272.html?fbclid=IwAR23JdombI9ObouuhfgbLPlkDixntIMU02tFxfvG79z5CS2m-sLNh6txTa0)
For Our or His GOOD:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20200279585A1/en?oq=US20200279585A1 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20200279585A1/en?oq=US20200279585A1)
Quote from: Johan_1955 on October 16, 2020, 02:57:12 AM
For Our or His GOOD:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20200279585A1/en?oq=US20200279585A1 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20200279585A1/en?oq=US20200279585A1)
If your driving software had troubled to read this patent, Bot-Johan, your handlers would have discovered that it was about wirelessly transmitting biometric data from a patient with any ailment to a mobile phone and on to a medical hub.
Quote from: e2matrix on October 16, 2020, 02:10:58 AM
From the World Doctors Alliance the statements of doctors, scientists, experts in epidemiology and others with knowledge of the situation say there is NO evidence of a medical pandemic.
Tell that to Liverpool's mayor, Joe Anderson, mayor@liverpool.gov.uk , or that of Manchester, Andy Burnham, the.mayor@greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk .
Be sure to let us know what they say.
Quote from: Paul-R on October 16, 2020, 06:41:51 AM
If your driving software had troubled to read this patent, Bot-Johan, your handlers would have discovered that it was about wirelessly transmitting biometric data from a patient with any ailment to a mobile phone and on to a medical hub.
Yep, read it. Clearly you didn't or don't read well between the lines which is barely required to understand this is just the start of getting people on the wagon for constant tracking and methods to control peoples every move. You don't have the app? Sorry you can't leave home, you can't buy food, you can't go to work etc.
Quote from: e2matrix on October 16, 2020, 03:21:51 PM
...this is just the start of getting people on the wagon for constant tracking and methods to control peoples every move. You don't have the app? Sorry you can't leave home, you can't buy food, you can't go to work etc.
Agreed. Voluntariness is just a short-hand way of saying "voluntary until enough get on-board to make it compulsory".
The NWO is
TYRANNY, plain and simple!
.....🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃.....
Quote from: e2matrix on October 16, 2020, 03:21:51 PM
Yep, read it. Clearly you didn't or don't read well between the lines which is barely required to understand this is just the start of getting people on the wagon for constant tracking and methods to control peoples every move. You don't have the app? Sorry you can't leave home, you can't buy food, you can't go to work etc.
It could be used as you suggest just as a simple fletton can be used to build a home or kill somebody by bashing them over the head.
Anyway, I am fairly sure this tech is in use now, for getting help quickly to people liable to have an imminent heart attack. i.e. there is no inventive step, novelty, and hence it will be a relief to the pananoid that it probably won't proceed to grant.
The problem is that the pananoid will not be relieved because they need to fret and fuss over something and will simply find something else to get paranoid about.
It's what they need.
Who needs democracy when you have data? https://www.technologyreview.com/2018/08/20/240293/who-needs-democracy-when-you-have-data/ (https://www.technologyreview.com/2018/08/20/240293/who-needs-democracy-when-you-have-data/)
Globalized Authoritarianism: The Expansion of the Chinese Surveillance Apparatus
https://www.e-ir.info/2020/04/03/globalized-authoritarianism-the-expansion-of-the-chinese-surveillance-apparatus/ (https://www.e-ir.info/2020/04/03/globalized-authoritarianism-the-expansion-of-the-chinese-surveillance-apparatus/)
.....🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃.....
Without a Virus isolated, and so CLEAR a non valid PCR-tool:
People without empathy, should not have that kind of money, even with 100 times more money they suck always for more .........
They try to find it outside, not looking where it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqYEuY3YJxY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqYEuY3YJxY)
Johan,warum nehmen Sie Zahlen der BR deutschland und nicht zum Beispiel Tschechiens,wo gerade bei 10,7 Mio. Einwohnern die taegliche Neuinfektionsrate auf ueber 10.000 angestiegen ist ?
Eine Million und mehr Testanalysen in BR ,Kostenpunkt volkswirtschaftlich 140 Euros pro Fall,ausgehend von Arzt/-Praxiskosten ,wohl an die 100 Euros und die Labortestkosten,gerade vereinheitlicht auf 39,4 Euros als PCR-Test !
Arztkosten werden ueber die Krankenversicherung verrechnet, nicht sofort dem Versichertem ersichtlich !
Wenn Arztbesuch waehrend gewoehnlicher Arbeitszeit = Verdienstverlust fuer den zu Testendem !
Bei Rueckkehr aus offiziell deklarierten Risiko-Gebieten/-Laendern : Testpflicht !
Gelder,welche - woanders - sinnvollerer zu nutzen waeren !
Wirtschaftlichkeitsgebot,eine maximale Pflicht in jedem demokratischen Staat , zudem Verhaeltnismaeszigkeit !
Wirtschaftlichkeitgebot schlaegt niedere Gesetze : Instrument *Einstweilige Verfuegung ! *
Es gibt Menschen,welche an deren alten Eltern/-Teilen haengen,welche sich in Senioren-/Altenheimen aufhalten/befinden !
Bei vielen dieser Heime liegt die Erkrankungsrate ,Europa-weit,an die 50% und darueber,Risikogruppe !
Zudem haeufig auch ein Grossteil des Personals infiziert ist und deshalb ausfaellt !
Stellen sich AHA-Verweigerer sich freiwillig und zu Zivildienst-Entgelt ersatzmaessig zur Verfuegung ?
Die erwachsenen Kinder dieser Aelteren danken bestimmt fuer dieses freundliche Ansinnen !
MfG
p.s. : zu Wirtschaftlichkeitsgebot eine vorlaeufige *Lock-down*-Bilanz :
laut heutigem www.ntv.de Artikel belaufen stationaere Behandlungskosten in Deutschland :
bei AOK-Versichrrten : 10700 Euros,bei Beatmungsfall 38500 Euros
bei der Barmer Ersatzkasse : 6900 Euros
Frage :
von je 100000 Einwohnern wieviele Infektionsfaelle,daraus wieviele mit stationaerem Behandlungsbedarf ?
Bisher hat der parlamentarische Lock-down zu 100 Mrd. Euros Bundeshaushalt-Neuvrrschuldung gefuehrt .
100 000 000 000 Euros geteilt 8000 Euros mittlere stationaere Behandlungskosten :
entspricht 12 500 000 Intensiv-Patienten mit Krankenhauseinweisungsbedarf
Verhaeltnismaeszigkeit ?
Die Insolvenz-Situation von zirka 10% der Privathaushalte,u.a. Selbstaendige und Freiberufler und Teilzeitler, uebertrifft die 100 Mrd Euro an Schaden bei Weitem !
www.ntv.de (http://www.ntv.de) SO TEUER WIRD DIE CORONA-KRISE FUER DEUTSCHLAND
Anfrage des Linken-Fraktionsvorsitzenden an das Finanzministerium :
Antwort :bis zu 1,446 Billionen ( englisch :Trillion/-s) oder 1446 Milliarden (englisch :Billion/-s) Euros Belastung der oeffentlichen Kassen fuer das erste Jahr
1446 Mrd /8000 = 180 750 000 INFIZIERTE Krankenhaus-eingewiesene Intensiv-Patienten-Behandlungen,!aut Aerzteblatt zwischen 10 Tagen und 3 Wochen Aufenthalt
Es wird wohl gerade ueber 1/10,eher 2/10, des gesamten Netto-Volksvermoegens umgewandelt !
Also,so als kaufmaennischer Krankenhausdirektor,nehmend die Zahlen der AOK :
Intensivpflege 10700 Euros und unter *Ventilation/Beatmung* 38500 Euros verrechnend
ist es opportun eine Grosszahl der Infizierten zu *Beatmungs-Notwendigen* zu deklarieren,da bedarf es nur eines intensiven Gespraeches mit dem aerztlichen Direktor (Planstellenabbau,....)
laut Aerzteblatt 74 von 100 der Corona-Patienten in Krankenhaeusern !
Sind ja nur knappe 28000 Euros Differenz ! Halber Tesla ,so als materialistischer Marktwert !
Selbst Beatmung kann typischen Alters-Tod nicht ueberlisten !
https://www.aerzteblatt.de/archiv/215066/Beatmete-Patienten-Ursachen-der-COVID-19-Mortalitaet (https://www.aerzteblatt.de/archiv/215066/Beatmete-Patienten-Ursachen-der-COVID-19-Mortalitaet)
WHO-Bulletin: Forscher: Corona-Todesrate ist wahrscheinlich geringer als 0,2 Prozent!
https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/gesundheit-oekologie/forscher-corona-sterblichkeit-betraegt-023-prozent-li.111917?fbclid=IwAR2LGl81i5OoOjebQ4CpjLJgKt3j5cLCsNWXYfP254YDrRTrbsixn-fgSyg#Echobox=1602932930 (https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/gesundheit-oekologie/forscher-corona-sterblichkeit-betraegt-023-prozent-li.111917?fbclid=IwAR2LGl81i5OoOjebQ4CpjLJgKt3j5cLCsNWXYfP254YDrRTrbsixn-fgSyg#Echobox=1602932930)
Results: I included 61 studies (74 estimates) and eight preliminary national estimates. Seroprevalence estimates ranged from 0.02% to 53.40%. Infection fatality rates ranged from 0.00% to 1.63%, corrected values from 0.00% to 1.54%. Across 51 locations, the median COVID-19 infection fatality rate was 0.27% (corrected 0.23%): the rate was 0.09% in locations with COVID-19 population mortality rates less than the global average (< 118 deaths/million), 0.20% in locations with 118–500 COVID-19 deaths/million people and 0.57% in locations with > 500 COVID-19 deaths/million people. In people < 70 years, infection fatality rates ranged from 0.00% to 0.31% with crude and corrected medians of 0.05%.
https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_first/BLT.20.265892.pdf (https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_first/BLT.20.265892.pdf)
Conclusion: The infection fatality rate of COVID-19 can vary substantially across different locations and this may reflect differences in population age structure and case- mix of infected and deceased patients and other factors. The inferred infection fatality rates tended to be much lower than estimates made earlier in the pandemic.
I won't waste my time arguing with or responding to those who won't see the truth from doctors, scientists and data I present here. You can take it or leave it. Use it or not. Your choice.
This is from America's Frontline doctors. The one speaking the first 12 minutes is a certified physician and also a Stanford educated attorney. They are standing in front of America's Supreme court. The first 12 minutes or so gives a great deal of info about the great mask hoax and why it should not be mandated or even pushed on people.
In the first two minutes you get info about a doctor who is treating patients for Covid 19 for FREE in all 50 states by just going to his website. Out of 1900 positive cases ALL recovered using HCQ and a couple other items and only one out of the 1900 needed to be hospitalized. There was ZERO mortality rate with the patients they treated. Another doctor has a clinic in an area one of the highest risk populations. His clinic saw over 20,000 patients and they had ZERO deaths and only ONE hospitalization.
These are the genuinely good doctors. These doctors are being told NOT to treat the patients with HCQ. They are ignoring it and saving lives. The mainstream media is spreading LIES. The FDA, CDC and WHO are controlled by big money - not by concern for your health.
Banned on Youtube:
https://www.infowars.com/posts/banned-from-youtube-americas-frontline-doctors-hold-2nd-summit-in-dc/
Or if you want to get it from the source (you need to give an email here) :
https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com/stream/
And even more Lucifer out Genf-CH:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GMci7r0WVg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GMci7r0WVg)
Remember:
The useful idiots – their words, not ours – who are helping the process along know NOT what they do.
If they DID know, they would stop, because they would KNOW that they, too, will be either terminated
or become part of a GLOBAL SLAVE CAMP.
The New Order of the Barbarians:
http://www.sweetliberty.org/nobarbarians1.htm (http://www.sweetliberty.org/nobarbarians1.htm)
John Ioannidis, the Professor of Epidemiology and Population Health at Stanford University, said:
"If we had not known about a new virus out there and had not checked individuals with PCR tests,
the number of total deaths due to "influenza like illness" would not seem unusual this year.
Out of: https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6203093698001 (https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6203093698001)
And: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibgb5CTlLao (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibgb5CTlLao)
Oh yes,when a society is investing much in their military-industrial complex ,for war interests,this operations gives well economical numbers , "Konjunktur'-program and this society leader/-s good reputation about estate leadership !
Btw : in this era the Vaticano saw him,A.H.,not as FUEHRER,but as the new 'MESSIAS'
not unaware,such bewonder,like actually some US evangelicals in their view about
the EX-TV show-man Donald Trump,the incarnation of ' fake show-biz'
Quote from: Johan_1955 on October 23, 2020, 09:35:06 AM
John Ioannidis, the Professor of Epidemiology and Population Health at Stanford University, said:
"If we had not known about a new virus out there and had not checked individuals with PCR tests,
the number of total deaths due to "influenza like illness" would not seem unusual this year.
Out of: https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6203093698001 (https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6203093698001)
And: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibgb5CTlLao (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibgb5CTlLao)
Then please explain the "excess deaths" bulge in the
graph of deaths v. time, comparing 2017, 18, 19, & 20.
Bunch of ..........
deaths in CH 2015 - 2016 - 2017 lll
These given numbers are neither pro nor anti - Covid prophylaxe !
The death number,lethality/mortality quote from our societies is dynamic , was - is - will stay !
Bad example !
Sincerely
p.s.: a problem ( financial responsibility,social acceptance ) can become ' wrong positive'-PCR teste results
RKI did change his Impressum on forehand in Jan. 2020, hoping for the media they did do that also!?
Such a SAD person and from our Money in the"wef":
Quote from: Johan_1955 on November 10, 2020, 08:39:18 AM
Such a SAD person and from our Money in the"wef":
Apart from being pointless, this image NEEDS RE-SIZING.
Its ONE soup of self called VIP's, and WannaBey's,
with Non New Innovating Ideas, Old Power Suckers,
just Jealous on Free people, because they are tight bounded,
and so they go for: Total Global Fascisme, just and only for there FEAR compensating!
https://www.watergate.tv/wef-globalist-schwab-die-welt-wird-nie-zur-normalitaet-zurueckkehren/ (https://www.watergate.tv/wef-globalist-schwab-die-welt-wird-nie-zur-normalitaet-zurueckkehren/)
The last 70 years long, Germany was the BAD one, and now a almost Total SubMissive Sleeping World, Fear and Chickens?
Did I expected to much from: ELITE-MEMBERS here??
QuoteThe last 70 years long, Germany was the BAD one, and now a almost Total SubMissive Sleeping World, Fear and Chickens?
Actually no, Germany is a world leader in automated manufacturing, sustainability and renewable energy. They are doing things better and smarter than most countries which is why they are being attacked by the populists mobs. Sure Germany has problems, we all do and there is always a learning curve whenever there is great change. Germany is a model for what a sustainable future looks like in my opinion despite there temporary growing pains.
Meanwhile in the U.S. we see almost half the population, generally lacking in education jumping on the populist bandwagon out of desperation. Technology and automation have decimated many industries and left them behind. They are being replaced by machines and many have no real skills of value in the new high tech economy. They can try to go back to a dark age mentality however when the rest of the world continues to move forward they still lose. The further they drag themselves backwards the further ahead the rest of the world gets.
Soon Free Energy is going to come out leaving many countries with trillions of dollars of stranded assets in the fossil fuel industry. So when the U.S. and other countries went all in globally they basically cut there own throat. They can't move forward and they can't go backwards, there screwed. At which point it becomes obvious countries like Germany are in a much better position tolerating a little pain now for a great deal less in the future.
Regards
Quote from: Johan_1955 on November 12, 2020, 05:59:17 AM
Did I expected to much from: ELITE-MEMBERS here??
Your problem is that we are too smart
to believe the crap that you put out.
By the way, Johan_bot, RESIZE YOUR DAMNED STUPID PICS,
Quote from: Paul-R on November 12, 2020, 06:28:52 PM
Your problem is that we are too smart
to believe the crap that you put out.
By the way, Johan_bot, RESIZE YOUR DAMNED STUPID PICS,
@ Paul-R hero ALL BY HIMSELF.
That's a matter of opinion and open to debate.
You alone sure come across as quite the ignorant piece of work one on one towards me .
So far the only evidence I've personally seen from you is that you RUN AWAY when faced with facts germane to the subject matter.
Why is it you almost always refer to others as if you are part of them i.e.: "we" when you write?
Prove how "too smart" you are with logic, reason and on point argument rather than just running your insulting mouth/keyboard!
You can do it point by point and politely tear his wings off without being ignorant on any topic/subject, right?
BTW: Dorthy said it best: "I DON"T BELIEVE YOU!" (I myself agree.)
https://youtu.be/BMBil4FkLKc?t=70
Quote from: Temporal Visitor on November 12, 2020, 10:08:59 PM
So far the only evidence I've personally seen from you is that you RUN AWAY when faced with facts germane to the subject matter.
I don't run away; it is that some of your arguments are so damned stupid
that they don't merit attention. (e.g. asking me to explain how the oceans of
the spherical world don't fall off).
Kindly credit people on this site with a scintilla of knowledge in our speciality.
https://bpa-pathology.com/covid19-pcr-tests-are-scientifically-meaningless/ (https://bpa-pathology.com/covid19-pcr-tests-are-scientifically-meaningless/)
I challenge anyone here to watch this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcm8Sc8f66o (less than 20 minutes) and still keep your naysaying nonsense mindset that this in not a scam of epic proportions. So much verifiable facts and real science presented in this video that if you persist in claiming all your malarkey that will be proof your are nothing but trolls of big pharma or the global elite.
The man speaking in the video.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Woods
Read it.
floor
"Austrian school " of economy , liberalism = Free Trade : Joseph Alois Schumpeter,studies Kontradjef/Elliott !
Innovation ~ schoepferische Zerstoerung ~ creative destruction/ destructive creativity
Okay, + the estates budget finance system kind disput in the 70' :
a.Friedrich A.von Hayek versus b.Milton Keynes( 'controled deficit spending' by Goldstandart secured !)
decision : at first controled,later uncontroled 'deficit spending' by no save capital and credits/bonds coverage !
Edit: clearly John Maynard Keyes,at not the name from the british locality ! Sorry,for the unconcontration ! :-\
Clash and crash ready ! First blow up : 1987 , second : 2008 third : ?
Sincerely
Quote from: lancaIV on November 15, 2020, 06:22:19 PM
"Austrian school " of economy , liberalism = Free Trade : Joseph Alois Schumpeter,studies Kontradjef/Elliott !
Innovation ~ schoepferische Zerstoerung ~ creative destruction/ destructive creativity
Okay, + the estates budget finance system kind disput in the 70' :
a.Friedrich A.von Hayek versus b.Milton Keynes( 'controled deficit spending' by Goldstandart secured !)
decision : at first controled,later uncontroled 'deficit spending' by no save capital and credits/bonds coverage !
Edit: clearly John Maynard Keyes,at not the name from the british locality ! Sorry,for the unconcontration ! :-\
Clash and crash ready ! First blow up : 1987 , second : 2008 third : ?
Edit II ::) : related ' unconcentration' the right F.A.v. Hayek his economy-view-point oppositor name
: John Maynard KEYNES (Keynesianimus)
mea ( et sua, Tutor in holiday ::) ) culpa,nossa maxima culpa
pardon-moi !
Sincerely
Wieviel Vergangenheit wollen Wir,wieviel ( un-/gewisse) Zukunft brauchen Wir ?Wieviel Vergangenheit brauchen Wir,wiviel ( un-/gewisse) Zukunft wollen Wir ?
Die Grosseltern starben,die Elternteile ,Wir irgendwann auch :
Nicht 'ALLEIN '( unter 8 Bio. ??? ) sein wollen,GEBORGENHEIT~ ROMANTIK,
BOSS - gib mir Kost und Logis und Entgelt : sei mein VATER !
Behuete/Versorge mich,unkuendigbar,bis zu meiner Rentenzeit !
Sei mein (An-)Lehn(-s)-Herr !
Sei mein oekonomischer 'Heiland ' !
'Leibeigenschaft' zu verkaufen,preiset den Herrn und dessen Gefolgschaft(Hof,Gesinde(l),Kind + Kegel) !
Sehr geehrte Arbeitnehmerschaft,es waere nicht unpraktisch,Lebens-/und Arbeits-/Wohn-Konditionen zeitens eines Alt-Sozialisten Robert Bosch und die der Carl Zeiss Werke zu Jena ( + Ernst Abbe ! Otto Schott ) zu erarbeiten und mit
heutigem Konsum-Rausch-"Leitbild" zu vergleichen !
Demut zu sozialen Errungenschaften ! Es waren dafuer Kriege notwendig !
Kirche : Reformatoren Oekonomie : Sozial-Reformer
Man kann diese Errungenschaften schnell verprassen ! disruprive creativity
Kinderlaehmung ist grausam,Erwachsenenlaehmung ein Verbrechen !
Konsum-Helotentum non grata
Kredit-Konsum-Heloten serves Destruction and Poorness Lebens(-soziale Nutzwert-)Erwartung : 50 Jahre(ab Geburt )
Maybe some trauma's in his KOPF:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZUcaJKg47C7i/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZUcaJKg47C7i/)
Whoever wrote the software driving Johan_Bot didn't do much of a job.
Good people, losing every thing because of a FAKE pandemic!
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/japan-suicide-coronavirus-more-japanese-suicides-in-october-than-total-covid-deaths/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/japan-suicide-coronavirus-more-japanese-suicides-in-october-than-total-covid-deaths/)
Open T'ALK about 'Change',open question to independent Academies of Science members international
+ W.H.O. + Mediziner Ohne Grenzen ( geo-/psycho-/physio-frontier-politisch)
about 'Anti-'-Syndrom ( seldom,epidemic,pandemic)
independent the non for this questions and inter-/intra-facultativ work competent ( as sponsor : yes !) public William'Bill' Gates and Melinda G. Foundation
( + Ex-wife Mr. Bezos : from 30 Bill. how much in ' donation-chaisse' ?)
Genom /sequenz/Kette(chain) DNA,RNA " chromosomen ,se.xus,genus differing
Mono-/Bi-/Tri-Valence
Nature,mammals,humans : Gen-scissor,marker,'natural scanner and controler and adviser",
Re-/search level : Germany : Max-Planck-Institute: Medicine/Bioanalytics,
article/s not lancet but " Nature", but not only
Actio/Reactio : in-/direct, gen-manipulation 1./2./3.generation female or male change ",Bluter"(royals)-illness
Epilepsia( Imperator(s) illness ( inzest ?!) / Nintendo 'endless' gamer
Hiro-shima,Los Alamos,Tchernobyl ,after 'event' female and/or gen-map change
Contergan : conventional body map change,deficiency
PCB: cannibalism as effect by human injection ( oral,venal,...) ? Which barrier ?
Uni Vienna,Atom-Electrons-Microscope research about ' dotieren',Homoeopathy : right or wrong : Charlatans !?
Darwin ,'Evolution' /Galton ' Eugenik,natural',mind and conscience evolution
1 liter crude oil contaminates 1000 liters(1 cbm) water,or more ? Atom-Electron-Microscope analysis !
Amphiprion :
F.e. Clownfish borned by se.xus all as female or male . Amphiprion: F-Harem or M-Harem !?
When,why,how,in which time period the change ?
Neuronal system ,synapsen,Neuro-transmitter = f.e. Dopamin !? Similar as Dopamim. !?
Hormone,Vit-Amine,Spurenelemente : Liebig-sche Verteilung : Fortpflanzungsertrag
Sweet-soure : natural Aroma,synthetical Aroma/s/tes ,synthetic sugars
Anti- medical instrument,pharmacologic ,psychlogic ? psychedelic ?
Heroin,LSD,Crystal Meth,Purdue-drugs
Prionen,Proteine: BSE,Scrapie,Creutzfeld-Jakob interferone: cells from calws ?
Doping(Aufputsch,bring up),Barbiturate(bring down)LSD-consume- symptoms / Alzheimer ? Parkinson ? Similarity
Drug: tea refreshing ? calmant ? tea drinker meaning,water freshness dependent,tea freshness,air(oxygen,hydrogen,nitrogen,...?) 3 min. 5 min. 60°,80°,100° treatment
Teazeremony : north-afrika Nana,Peppermint tea,sugar
Coffee-zeremony : arabica world,the coffee nucleus( Bohne)or the coffee green fruit: value,effect wish ?!
Stress !? Impression,Expression,Depression,Repression ( actor ,victim ),brain I or brain II
(Zweite Gehirn : Bauch,Neural- Doppel-Gehirn,Solar plexus,para-/sympaticus)
Anti-/Pro-Stress : natural Bio-Rythm-watch, 28 days- period ( moon phases ) 9-month period( Maya year)
Light theraphy : anti-( winter) depression
Stress and Neuro-transmitter and Gen-marker/scissor and Gen-ignorance
Thesis: by mammals/Saeuger the se.xus/genus is up birth FIXED( during coitus-birth ?)
Hypothesis : No doubts in undoubt thesis ?
Psychological barrier over-bridge(treating a child,only daughter like an only son,decades long ,vice versa
Mind maping,over the time body maping
synthetical over-bridging ( LSGB pharmaceutical treatment ? Substances,syntheticals ?
Question: how fast , which internal/external transmuter dosis ? Meal,water,Air,drinks ?
'Anti-Ist'-Geschlecht-Wandler,Maximizer-IS-Geschlecht-Wandler ( konventional to Super- ....?!)
What are Iso-tonics ,based by substances: ? remembering Iso-Star by Hoechst (80')
and another,Made in Austria,do not know clearly : Red Horse or Flying Bull ? ::)
First Neuro-changer,later body-changer ?!
Dernier cry : blood cells ( source,core/nucleus ?) as anti-age therapy,eternal youth !
Our brain is not an organ,it is a body ! Body-in-a-human body ! The brain : theoretical biological imortal !
Brain I and Brain II : 2 bodies -in -an-human body ? brain/s se.xus ? ;D
Brains body alimentation ?Dextro Energen ? Fruchtzucker ? ;) PRANA ? LIGHT ?
So sweety
The Brains : fiat lux,fahr los !
Sincerely
They are coming, with Lawyers ..........
http://wissenschafftplus.de/uploads/article/wissenschafftplus-virologen.pdf (http://wissenschafftplus.de/uploads/article/wissenschafftplus-virologen.pdf)
At the End, true is ........
https://tkp.at/2020/11/17/portugiesisches-berufungsgericht-haelt-pcr-tests-fuer-unzuverlaessig-und-hebt-quarantaene-auf/ (https://tkp.at/2020/11/17/portugiesisches-berufungsgericht-haelt-pcr-tests-fuer-unzuverlaessig-und-hebt-quarantaene-auf/)
Wenn das 'wissenschaftliche Haus',die Faculta,das Fach mit Logis,Log,Logia,Lo(d)ge uebersetzt wird
die Drehung als Verb im Portugiesischem mit virar terminiert wird,
1.Person,Singular,Praesens,Indikativ
was ergibt sich aus : ich drehe das Haus (um),Wort-gebunden !
MfG
OCWL
p.s.: Haus,suaH oder auf den Kopf,oder ......Pan Tau - isch
Life is so MAGIC
X-factor : 1x,2x,3x,....... Y-/Z-/A-/B-/........ -factores,gleich die ganze Factorei : :o ,only a Scherz 8)
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
US population 331,790,984
331,790,984 / 100 = 3,317,909.84
3,317,909.84 = 1% of 331,790,984
269,692 total covid19 deaths out of 331,790,984 US people.
331,790,984 total US people / 269,692 covid19 deaths = 1,230
1 person out of 1,230 people in the total US population, died of covid19, as of 11/27/20
...........................................
Total US covid19 cases 13,266,933 to date
Total US covid19 deaths 269,692 to date
269,692 deaths out of 13,266,933 cases
13,266,933 US cases / 100 = 132,669.33
132,669.33 = 1% of 13,266,933
269,692 / (1% or) 132,669.33 = 2.0328 % mortality rate average among the infected.
2.0328 % mortality rate average.
as high as 4% mortality rate for seniors.
floor
mRNA - Vaccine : female and male and zwitts probandes ( humans : a must ! physiological reazons )
by different BLOOD TYPE VERSIONS testing ?
RNA/DNA mono-/bi-glucogen : Diabetes,conventional/mellitus profile,treatment marker,key
Wrong blood type ,not healthy EXTERNAL assimilation possible,Down Synfrom f.e.
RNA-classification by !?
DNA-classification by !?
Caution : "Brehms Tierleben" before/after Genom-Ent-Codification/Discovery
"Ruessel"- Tier/animal comparison Elefant and "Ruessel"-Maus/Mice SYMBIOS/E
Jojoba-Symbios with ?
2020 : human genom codification 99% human/rainworm sequence difference ?
80 Kg human body : 80 Kg rain worm mass bodies : 1% difference OF WHAT !?
RNA and DNA -string versus "string : rain worm"
1 KWh electricity weights 40 nano-gram ,1 KWh bio-energy ? 1 KWh neuronal magnetons ?
weight, SPECIFIC weight ? density,emission radius/radiation : AURA,CORONA
1 KWh anima : weight ? anima ( Aristoteles) /soul 1 KWh bestia/lis(Aristoteles) : weight ?
when ....,if .......,then ......... : Contergan ,Thaliodomid ,neuronal 'Thaliodomid'
Thaliodomid-wikipedia explains ' humans/mamals: Primats tests minimum obligation
Cloning,method,tools from the beginnings to status quo : Xth-generation : changes remark ?
green dog et cet.,deficiencies/mutations external Conscious : internal !?
Temperature,pressure,magnetic force field : RNA and DNA ,
physiological,cellular stress :
Dopamin-level similar nano bandgap !? Cell-death by cell-suicide ,T-cell ( killer)
Quantumtheorem : UR-intercommunication ,UR-assimilation
What IS deficiency ? Social/medical/ethical/psychological/rational/logical ?
Human morphose evolution stages during embryonal- foetal 'grow up ' !?
body,se.xus(?month,change in uterus ?) ,mind ,
Tests probands pre-/poste male and/or female MENOPAUSE ,
Bio-Time-Watch-Cycle ( average 40 x 9 months " grow up"-phase )
and cell-regeneration velocity/speed
Genom : C-Wet-Paradoxon / Ur-Alternativen ,
Alternative(count down/up with/-out stress/pressure ex-/and/or in-ternal , ternieren ? )
TERNAER : Nomenklatur NORM-Klatur ? DICTATUR/TYRANNEI -Klatur ?
Door-opener : human recombination with NATURE,unseen KOSMOS ,un-read/-listen
COSMOS UNVISIBLE LIMITS AND FREEDOM
CHANCE AND RISC ZONE : TERNAER 2020 TERNAER 2120 TERNAER 2220
https://www.n-tv.de/wissen/Veraendert-der-mRNA-Impfstoff-unser-Erbgut-article22211840.html (https://www.n-tv.de/wissen/Veraendert-der-mRNA-Impfstoff-unser-Erbgut-article22211840.html)
https://www.spektrum.de/news/deepmind-will-problem-der-proteinfaltung-geloest-haben/1802324 (https://www.spektrum.de/news/deepmind-will-problem-der-proteinfaltung-geloest-haben/1802324)
not mess against,but compareable human natural A.I.= Art-Intelligence and K.I.= Kind-Intelligence applying with +- similar result
like bodyfree DEEPMIND by human DEEPLEARNING and DEEP-A.+K.-APPLICATION
https://www.n-tv.de/panorama/In-Vivo-Baby-mit-zwei-Muettern-geboren-article21436517.html (https://www.n-tv.de/panorama/In-Vivo-Baby-mit-zwei-Muettern-geboren-article21436517.html)
next step : https://ze.tt/in-japan-koennen-frauen-sich-jetzt-selbst-heiraten/ (https://ze.tt/in-japan-koennen-frauen-sich-jetzt-selbst-heiraten/)
and : https://www.tagesspiegel.de/wissen/erfolg-bei-zeugung-mit-spermien-aus-der-retorte-werden-maenner-entbehrlich/13018186.html (https://www.tagesspiegel.de/wissen/erfolg-bei-zeugung-mit-spermien-aus-der-retorte-werden-maenner-entbehrlich/13018186.html)
Verfassungsgerichte-Entscheidungs-Hoheit-Countdown/-Moratorium/-Ultimatum global !
Wer Rechte-Kataloge fordert erhaelt immer Pflichten-Kataloge dazu !
Polen : orthodoxer Katholizismus : Abtreibungsverbot ! Welch Freude der Klaeger vor dem Verfassungsgericht nach Urteilsbeschluss !
orthodoxer Katholizismus : Frau,bedecke in der Oeffentlichkeit dein Haupt ,keine Haartracht zeigen zu duerfen ,Schleier !
Bulle,Acht : Bei Kapitalverbrechen Todesstrafe der gesamten Sippe ,
Beschlagnahme saemtlichen Vermoegens
orthodoxer Katolizismus: Erbfolgegesetz folgernd,sozial-gesellschaftlichen-oekologischen Anspruch
der Ungeborenen gerecht werdend :
auf die gesamte Lebenszeit einer Fau und eines Mannes nur 1 Kind ,
Katholikenpflicht, zeugbar = 0,5 per capita
Frauen mit mehr als 1 Kind haben gegen die Natur-Werte-(Ver)-Ordnung verstossen,
fahrlaessig oder vorsaetzlich oder/und
durch verbrecherischen Codex-Verstosses seitens Ehr-und Wuerde-loser und Intelligenz-begrenzter Ehe-Parts !
Soziale Umgangspflicht mit solchen "Staatsbuergern":
120 Arbeits-bei Leistungskontrolle- Stundenwoche mag fuer solche ein gerechtes Ziel sein !
Basis :
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://ordentliche-gerichtsbarkeit.hessen.de/pressemitteilungen/Umgangspflicht-des-Vaters (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://ordentliche-gerichtsbarkeit.hessen.de/pressemitteilungen/Umgangspflicht-des-Vaters)
Oberlandesgericht Hessen,Urteilsverkuendung und die Begruendung,falls EU-weit gueltig Folge-schwer :
Vater wollte,trotz Sorge-Rechts/Pflicht-Anspruch sich mit
dessem Brut nicht Kontakt halten,3 Kinder Sorgerechtsfall + 1 mehr neue Lebenspartnerschaft !
kinder-Reichtum ≥1 kind Ehe (Single oder Paar) = Indikator geistiger Unvollkommenheit ,Beschraenktheit
Die Kinds-Recht-Souveraenitat als Beguendung nicht vereinbar mit der 2.,3.,.....Geburtspositionierung
und sozial-gesellschaftlicher Entfaltungsfreiheit jedes Einzelnen
folgernd dem Erb-Folge- oder Fertilitaets-Konsequenz-Gesetz
Bin nicht orthodoxer Katholik,bin Ultra-orthodox = Ultra ! Orbs wichtiger als Urbs !
Logik und Rationalitaet ist das Mass ! Koerperneutral,transzendent !
A.I. handelt nach rational-logischen Grundsaetzen ~ war games "tic tac toe " Erstpositionierung
Roma,Vaticano nicht der Beginn und nicht das Ziel,bedeutungsarm,
Museeum der maskulinen Instinkt-Gelueste ,mit Freilicht-Buehne ,unter Kuppeldach !
Katholisch und Katholikat :
der Geist entscheidet ALS OBERHAUPT,ethischer caput capita CAPITALISMUS,Material-unabhaengig
Viel,wenig,fast nichts - Capitalismus ~ dialektischer Materialismus
Jetzt politisches Polen,bist du nun doch am Verlieren,im Pseudo-Katholizismus,dem selbst Carol Wojtyla sich abgewandt hatte ! Einst kurz mal ein Koenigreich,Wasa-schwedisch DAS HAUS !
1618-1648: DAS HAUS Wasa,auf wessen Kriegsparteien-Seite,Hueter welcher christlicher Confessionsphilosophy,bezueglich " reine Lehre" !?
HALTET EIN ! IM NAMEN ........ ! Immanuel Kant : Confessionszugehoerigkeit !? Spiritus Rector !?
IM NAME DES VOLKES VERKUENDIGUNG ....... = SYNTAKT/SYNTAX ERROR
IM NAME GOTTES VERKUENDIGUNG ....... = SYNTAKT/SYNTAX ERROR
IM NAME des "DES" ,des ......... SPRACHE ? = SYNTAKT /SYNTAX CORRECT
Ejo,EGO,ECHO,HeJo Hilfen zur gerechten Syntax Banana Boat Song ,Harry Belafonte (Freund : Hardy Krueger )
EGO ,Willy William
Cheap Thrills , SIA
Rechts nach Links,Links nach Rechts,Unten nach oOben,Oben nach Unten :
Der M im Leben ist das Ziel ,PADME ....
DES•SED
Corona-virion pandemie and science-fiction : The Omega Man (starring Charles Heston) ,New York relatively empty
Futurism : 1973 preview "" Soylent Green" about the year 2022
DeepMind-A.I. ,show us 2050 ! BY HighMind ,ALTER , ALTURA, UR , A O, ∆ O sans Scriptum
No Finger -/ No Foot- Print but : DETERMINATION, bi - and bio- nomical
'Krone,Crown,Coroa,Corona'
IN-
EX-
per-i-ment-e
IN-EX-
per-tinere/tinent
IN-EX-
pert/-e/s
Der Spiegel : "Die Arbeiterkinder werden zur neuen Generation ......."
Zitat,(Re-)Zitierung /Citation,Anwaeltin/Advocatia-Advogada/law-y-er Susana Prieto Terrazas :
" Ich hatte selbst Corona,hatte 27 Tage lang schreckliche Atembeschwerden,ABER KEIN FIEBER ! 8)
Hallo Superspreader global ! Kalter Infekt ! Und entzuendlicher ,erhoehte Temperierung,Infekt !
Thermographische und thermoakustische Bild-Kamera wohl empfehlenswert !? ;)
Sol/ar/is : solar plexus para-/ sym -/ pathicus em-phatic-us spinal/cerebral/neuronal/e-motion-al
Covid19,Sars,Mers : Motorik,Notorik
Sincerely
OCWL
Quote from: Floor on November 27, 2020, 02:51:33 PM
2.0328 % mortality rate average.
as high as 4% mortality rate for seniors.
If they all come over a short period of time, then the health system gets crushed and this has catastrophic knock on effects. This almost happened in NY.
Quote from: Paul-R on December 05, 2020, 07:50:08 AM
If they all come over a short period of time, then the health system gets crushed and this has catastrophic knock on effects. This almost happened in NY.
Exactly. Need to flatten the curve.
Numbers have spiked here (locally). Bad news.
Previously, here we had very low numbers.
also
It got in our largest senior home.
Big losses.
floor
I doubt bill gates wants to kill off people. After all it would be wiser and more ethical or moral to simply pass a law that said only one child allowed per couple. That would in effect slow population growth and be ethical or moral at the same time. So no need to be sneaky and go about just murdering people in unknown ways. Of course this is just my opinion of how it should be done when the need for such a time arises. Actually we dont have a population problem. We have a misuse of resources or a misuse of land problem right now. Meaning if we put into effect more laws to slow pollution, which is usually caused more so then not by big corporations. And if we used land resources more wisely there would be enough room for billions more people in fact. Not counting we could build underground cities and cities on the ocean floor and eventually build cities in the sky and around the planet even in space when the technology comes about. again just my personal view here but I find this more decent or moral of a way to go about it.
Quote from: stevensrd1 on December 06, 2020, 04:02:54 PM
I doubt bill gates wants to kill off people. After all it would be wiser and more ethical or moral to simply pass a law that said only one child allowed per couple...
If you watch the video at post 1 of this thread, it seemsa clear to me that he is talking about making birth control available worlwide to those who need it.
Quote from: stevensrd1 on December 06, 2020, 04:02:54 PM
I doubt bill gates wants to kill off people. After all it would be wiser and more ethical or moral to simply pass a law that said only one child allowed per couple. That would in effect slow population growth and be ethical or moral at the same time. So no need to be sneaky and go about just murdering people in unknown ways. Of course this is just my opinion of how it should be done when the need for such a time arises. Actually we dont have a population problem. We have a misuse of resources or a misuse of land problem right now. Meaning if we put into effect more laws to slow pollution, which is usually caused more so then not by big corporations. And if we used land resources more wisely there would be enough room for billions more people in fact. Not counting we could build underground cities and cities on the ocean floor and eventually build cities in the sky and around the planet even in space when the technology comes about. again just my personal view here but I find this more decent or moral of a way to go about it.
The individual human ,the incidence case,the spread,the superspread :
humans their number evolution historyCorona CoVid19 individuum 'cold/fevrous infect' ,spread ,superspread
1 child per life/couple = 0,5 childs per 1 human re/production WORLD habitants number regression
2 childs,f.+m., per life and couple = 1 child per 1 human re-/production World habitants number staying
Erbrecht ! Inheritance ! Erbpflicht ! Inheritance ! Recht= Pflicht The Right = The Duty ! No Waiver,bothinone
WHAT restes,as Life pro-Viant ? Chance/Risc
Inheritance law right=duty :
Domus,Dominium,DOM, Dom Pedro/Don Pedro
1. The Elders,Adel,Nobilitas
Der ERSTE STAND,STANDARTE,WAPPEN
the First/Fuerst/Duc/Patron from the Family/HausHerr/Dominus,1te Stand,the Physialists
gets ' as winner all,specfic : fertility right/duty" FAMILY NAME,FAMILY STAM HOUSE ( Borough/Burg: Buerger,Land = Wahlrecht)
The Second,2.te Stand,the Mentalists : Vice-/Vize,can adopt the First his rights/duties ,illness/death et cet. : All the Patrimony incl. Wife + evt.child
1-2-3 Stands-An-Arch-ists : follows as Artists&Kind-ists ::) 4.inofficial Stand-Art&Kind ;D ,by need living in a tent
Cum/Con T(I)ENTE ;) ' ma(i)s Cabecza' Self-Pro-/Con-Tect-ion
By hisself the Second ,WALKER,GESELLEN/GENOSSEN,his right/duty : no land, no house-home,no own body fertility spread,can adopt,social ' the ideal teaching' profession,no land,no vote
The Firsts Firstdom ethical congregation,citizen/Firstdom peacefull functionaries
A Third,like Second,representing 3.Stand = NoBody ,but martial profession : no own fertility,fighter for PATRIA-MATRIA,up to "wished" deat
The Firstdom and Seconddom their defender ,against foreign enemies or for foreign attack ,spread game
1648 : Westfaelische Friedens-Ordnung : war as game for the FIRST,to entleeren ,ungelehrte,3.Staendler
Up to Nuernberg,known for Nuernberger Trichter ~ the book containment infilling,the poste WW2 and NAZI-Regime Tribunal
1945,by NEW Friedens/Peace ORDER LAWs
Looking to Venezuela,96% low poverty ,from Venezuela statistical median average,quantitative/qualitative,U.N.statistical median average !?
Maduro,vinho maduro ~ vinho seco/dry/trocken Trappatoni : Flask empty ?The President his son : jet-set boy,each day spend in ' halli-galli-life /Venezuela average earning ,net
Water pray(s)ing,Wine(Maduro)drinking ? Signori Bolivar haett euch aufgeknuepft ! Ge-Lynch-ed !
Befreiungs-Theology =ORA ! + Befreiungs-Praxis : LAB'ORA !
Con'Dor,mas asas !
( media number: who declared this ? First= formal Second= informal economy society )Father + Mother ,legal + Tauf-Paten/Godparents = Vice,-/Vize-Vater/Mutter ,LEGAL
spiritual Parents ! You have not,anymore: deputy of Godparents their position,their next in rank ?!
Thronfolge,Successor,succession ! Karriere,Carrier ! letter,Leiter up or down
Yester-day-tradition in Today-tradition trahere,traho,trai,tractum transporting,translating
The Sinn),the Sen(s/ation ),the Zen(inner Hold,Ruhepunkt,Peace)
Elvis Presley,singer : Yes,I am the great pre-tender,....."Tender,Balancer,Equalizer,like In Rio de Janeiro and Almada/Lisbon the Statue,representing Statutes
"Besame,besame mucho " not "seemeing" much,but gloving/saving and 'carpe diem' in Kants 11.kategorie -Kind
TRAN-FORM
PARADIS ,Island,Garden,Eden :Original words denomination age ,Bible age ? Bible beginnings Timepoint humans number in BIBLE-World
Judisch/Jusisch Kalendar,Luni(Mond)Solar(Sun)Kalendar : 3761 ante Cristi nascimento/birth
3761 years + 2020 years = 5781 years back ! Humans in average in Judish(Juda,Iz-ra-el/Samaria)World ,Density,in aldeias,villages,Cities ?!Jerusalem was a undetrrminated locality,insignificant,at the beginning !
An 100% RATIONAL society World ?An 100% RATIONAL society World !
Ethical BENCHMARK,IDEAL !? Social,common,benchmark,Ideal ?
Knowing ancient IDEAL,based by ancient living science ,arts&kinds ?
Collector,Hunter,Farmer: Nature-Humans Evolution , "history" cradle of humans and their -ity
Why we have law/s and order/s ? Limitation !? 1 Planet, 70% water area,30% land-mass !
Before "today" : deserts : forests !? forests Ice-area ( 1000+ mtrs under ice : Groenland~ Greenland)
Seen continents ,less seen contnents 'Godwana',Antarctica
Wegener : Pangaae , Ur-continent ~ Eye ,shelf drift,known continents parts like puzzle peaches connect
Time Life : IDEAL number Nature-Humans " intensive humanity" number : 300 000 000 habitants
Earth habitants number popuation ,30 years~ 1 generation step
2020
1990
1960
1930
1900
1870,1840,........,Malthus !? 1500 'Discoveries Vasco da Gama,Magalhaes,Francis Drake,....
~1500 Mart(h)in Luther
1500 300 000 000 habitants on Planet Eath : Farmer - Hunter-Collector
METROPOLIT,PATRIARCA,KATHOLKAT : by-with Rules and Laws and Order and executive Power in Hands !?
Fair or Feudal ? Taker or Giver ? Fair ,compensatory: Taker and Giver,Tribe Tribute : 1/10
Metropolit,Patriarca,Katholikat : Splitting the Power : Spiritual World and Physical World
1500 KATHOLIKAT ' cuius regio,cuius religio' :
Splitt in EUROPE-CENTRAL ,NORT EVANGELISM SOUTH ROMANO-CATHOLIC
Splitt ,also in Tribe-Trubutation,but not 1/10 divided 2 "Worlds",know 2 x 1/10 =2/10
Maximal or minimal/no harvest/production yield in-/dependent !?
Agriculture failed,human culture overpopulation failed : education,information
Each in-divid-u+al human 'carpe diem' 23 h 58 min night/day use ? TARGET ?! X 366 Daies( y ! Singular)
Panta rei + carpe diem : New Age society 1960+ YOGA TAOism Re-search,GOING BACK TO THE ROOTS
GOING BACK : a scientifical dis-coveries,translation culture is /culture was : society reazon 'Peace !? War !? "
Safety Life Life Safety how much for Life is 'much enough ',no more !?
Up to MIDAS- legend ' all transforming to Gold' or better golden/precious in Worth ,Existence !?
Mono-Culture or Multi-/Poly-Culture !? Agri-/human culture diversity ! Nature diversity !
Nature un-/seked ? What,who is Nature !? Ever diverted ?! ZWie-tter-ig,2-ish ,maskulin and feminin or/and
NEUTER,NEUTRUM
Maskulin only used part from Neuter Standart !? Maskulin ments about/transforms mental ' position female'
Feminin only used part from Neuter Standart !? Femininum ments /transforms mental position 'male'
What You think that is You will become become I ~ will be become~ bekommen~ to get
Becoming~ will be a.good b.bad
EUGENIK,ARISTOKAT : Charles Darwin,Francis Galton Nature Society study,experiments
The Nature,their COMMUNICATION,their Genus and .us,the STRESS ( STRETCH : Amplitude,high-low)
William 'Bill' Gates,one from 21? MICROSOFT constituionalsists : +++ The HARD World in e-SOFT-WORLD
The art&kind of Software-Informatics lessons and Software itself distribution : i(l)-legal !?
The reazon,+ mono-/oligo-polism,that IBM becomes smaller ,Apple,Microsoft,Alphabet became GREAT ?
Our TRIBUTATION SYSTEM,our FINANCE SYSTEM ,our JUSTICE SYSTEM and EXECUTION SYSTEM
From SIMP-Lex tobCOMP-Lex and CORRUMPTION- STANDART
GERMANY reference,actual :
Business books only for idiots ,internal 2 ( 1 for investors,these idiots) external 1 more for ' Finance/Fiscus,')T.O.C.s = Tax Auditor and R.O.C.s,Books Auditors : for what ?!
The Law Execution System,Neuter Judgement : Deal-System ! Good arguments vails,' liquid' !Buy your Judgement,if need and not 'process avoidance' ( testemonials/pro reo ' : acts,documents,people : ---)
Making part : 'momentum amnesia : 'black out' ,Pseudo-Dementia ( mot lovely joke : Helmut Kohl)
and amnistia :Clinical case ,80% from all economical crimes : medical-psychological attest/approvement
' mental idiot/ manager illness/incompetents
ergo ' unlawfull' but 'crime-full' NO JUSTICE,
neither 'punished right' nor
'civil punished by law':
Or legal process prevention/deceleration : statute (justification)period of limitation,Verjaehrung
2 legal different systems ! 1x COMMON law JUSTICE + 1x INDIVIDUAL law JUSTICE
Becoming ' unlawfull'-judgement never means not LOSTS FROM VICTIMS COMPENSATION ATTRIBUTION !
Not by the Estate,at first PERPETRATOR PATRIMONY and MATRIMONY,the GRANDS-P. and PARENTS P.+M.,the COMPANY P.+M.,not in rates ( U.S.: Phillip Morris et cet. ,new smoker pays 'justice fine' for the past crimes
Organisierter Betrug,staatlich mitgetragen : BGB VERJAEHRUNGSFRIST ,Stichtag 30+3 JahreOpfer-/Zeugen-Selbstmord : = Mord ,Ohne VERJAEHRUNG
3-GEWALTEN-STAATS-DIENER-VERFASSUNGS-CONTRAORDER = PUTSCH,LANDFRIEDENSBRUCH im DIENST
FESTNAHME,einzige DELIKT zu FRIEDENSZEITEN mit TODESSTRAFE zu ahnden nach GG,zudem Notwehr- und Notstand-Paragraph -Exekutions-Selbstpflicht ,beizeiten Bayern,FJS ' finale Schuss',nach 2-maliger Vorwarnung des und bei Schusswaffengebrauchs ,polizeilich
The Monetary hard covrred System : 37 ' money-units' only more 1 from it ' hard,save' covered ! 1/37
The POLITICAL PARLAMENTARY 2 OPPOSITIONS SYTEM : opposite official,CO-OPPERATION AGAINST
CONSTITUTIONAL DEMANDS
CRASH-READY ! THE SYTEaM,not the CONSTITUTION
IT SILLS STAND,educates Your-Self in this STAND-LEVEL
NEUTER
NEUTER WORLD ORDER
Added doctors and nurses are making pandemic worse by staying silent, Money?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8998537/NHS-worker-resigned-claiming-Covid-hoax-films-going-London-E.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8998537/NHS-worker-resigned-claiming-Covid-hoax-films-going-London-E.html)
Everythng you say, johan_1955, is either a bit f**ked up or completely so.
There are hospitals, often in cut off rural locations, which have seen little or no virus. You can find one easily enough.
It's all abouot percentages.
Paul, we understand your care and Emotions for your 93 year old mother!
This is WHO:
What is this chart trying to say?
Media & Hospitals: Panic machen for Money and so: To many payed Slaves, for what ...........
https://www.rnd.de/gesundheit/coronavirus-sterberate-in-deutschland-niedriger-als-befurchtet-ubersterblichkeit-ist-ausgeblieben-L4F3KMQP5BGLNJNNMMVDRURP6M.html (https://www.rnd.de/gesundheit/coronavirus-sterberate-in-deutschland-niedriger-als-befurchtet-ubersterblichkeit-ist-ausgeblieben-L4F3KMQP5BGLNJNNMMVDRURP6M.html)
Logik : die numerische Sterberate steigt exponential an
Logische Begruendung : statistische Altersdurchschnitt
a. Buerger ,se.xus-neutral= Geschlechterdurchschnittb. Buerger maennlich weiblich
in kinematischer-kineastischer Relativistik zu durchschnitlichrr Lebenserwartung
durschnittlicher Lebenserwartung,
nur ab dem 10.Lebensjahr berechnend und dazu Verhaeltnisdiagrammentwicklung
DE,Bevoelkerungsalter +- 45 Jahre Deutscher*in
seit End-80,' : "45 Jahre" = Vorruhestandsalter = industriell-kommerzielle Rentenalter,ausgesiebt
Schon den Sarg oder Urne in Augenschein genommen ?
Alte Menschen ueberkommt schneller der ' psychologische-psychosomatische Freitod',keine Verwandschaft,keine Freunde,keine Lebensfreude : Demenz,Alzheimer
Krankheiten der ueberalterten Alleingelassenen,zumeist ,daneben : Drogensuechtigen : Medikamente,Alkohol und andere ! Harte Drogen auf Rezept ! Mediziner als Dealer der pharmazeutischen Barbiturate-Industrie !
Verticken ! Unter der Hand oder Krankenkassen-Verrechnung !
CoVid10-Impfung,geringere Begleiterscheinungen des Kranken,neben Nachwirkungen,kaum Einfluss auf steigende Todesraten !
Industrie,Handel,Service : 50% TIER4 Rationalisierung,spaeter um insgesamt 80% :
Lockdown,um Konsumenten gesaeuberte Staedte und Strassen als Vorbereitung zukuenftiger Alltagsperspektive !Home-office : staatlich angestellte Sozialhilfeempfaenger
Erste Phase : Umbauphase bis 2030 zu permanenter,periodisch Egionen wechselnder,Gesamt-Epidemie
Kinder verteilen natuerlich,ungeschuetzt,die Virionenmasse : ueber kalte Infektion ! Keine Symptome !
Interessantes Wesen-Spektrum,intelligent,erinnernd in den 80' dem HIV und deren Abbilder :
wie Kampfsterne aus Star Wars,Kampfstern Galaktika !
Das Imperium,nette Hollywood-SciFi-Fantasy-Schinken-Manier,hier wohl eher die Natur,schlaegt zurueck !
Als ob aus Drehbuechern sich die Natur die besten Instrumente aussucht !Deja-vu !
Platz schaffend,rueckerobernd,Reconquista Naturalis !
Als Naturmensch : wenn's huift !
Die maximale durchschnittliche Lebenserwartung ist im Unterschreiten,schon vor CoVid19 !
To many fake puppets around, Sold Soul, talking over Servants, playing the "Essentials", forgetting Karma:
https://snanews.de/20201211/impfstoff-hiv-122989.html?fbclid=IwAR1TTGUoIgC29t2d4G2jqDQfN5IgLAvToKX2oMPyDtCGspn1XsfZ-O-2XF8 (https://snanews.de/20201211/impfstoff-hiv-122989.html?fbclid=IwAR1TTGUoIgC29t2d4G2jqDQfN5IgLAvToKX2oMPyDtCGspn1XsfZ-O-2XF8)
https://www.n-tv.de/wissen/Corona-ist-nichts-gegen-das-was-noch-wartet-article22225449.html (https://www.n-tv.de/wissen/Corona-ist-nichts-gegen-das-was-noch-wartet-article22225449.html)
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.n-tv.de/wissen/Corona-ist-nichts-gegen-das-was-noch-wartet-article22225449.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.n-tv.de/wissen/Corona-ist-nichts-gegen-das-was-noch-wartet-article22225449.html)
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virion (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virion) https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virion (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virion)
Virus/Virion Im-/Export through fruits/vegetables/meat/fish/drinks : fruit/orange/cocos concentrate ?/water
Virius/virion is collaboration/coppulation with biotics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibiotic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibiotic)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protozoan_infection (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protozoan_infection)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_cold (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_cold) There is no vaccine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine) for the common cold
: super-virion
infection :
by acarus ( arachnids = micro spiders ) beside https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.allergie-freizeit.de/allergieformen/milbenallergie/ (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.allergie-freizeit.de/allergieformen/milbenallergie/)
,moscitos,spiders, https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zecken (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zecken)
How many vaccinations,how often ? Spectrum ?
Before/after vacation/holiday !?
PCR-Test : identification CoVid19 https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.quarks.de/gesundheit/medizin/corona-test-wie-funktioniert-der-test/ (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.quarks.de/gesundheit/medizin/corona-test-wie-funktioniert-der-test/)
The PCR is a system with which one specific DNA sequences outside of the living organism in vitro , proliferate or can copy
Petri-Schale,outside of the living organism compared inside the living organism ? Oxygene/hydrogen/ Temperature/density/pressure !
PASTEUR : with/out "wrong" ancient scientifical bacterium growth treatment ?
and not https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_cold (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_cold)
Well over 200 virus strains (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virus_strain) are implicated in causing the common cold, with rhinoviruses (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinovirus) being the most common.
Human rhinoviruses preferentially grow at 32 °C (89 °F), notably colder than the average human body temperature of 37 °C (98 °F); hence the virus's tendency to infect the upper respiratory tract (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_respiratory_tract), where respiratory airflow is in continual contact with the (colder) extrasomatic environment.
Rhinovirus C, unlike the A and B species, may be able to cause severe infections.[10] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinovirus#cite_note-Fuji2011-10) This association disappears after controlling for confounders (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confounding).[11] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinovirus#cite_note-11) Duly, amongst infants infected with symptomatic respiratory illness in low-resource areas, there appears to be no association between rhinovirus species and disease severity.[12] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinovirus#cite_note-Kuypers2019-12)
very doubtful 60/40
SARS-CoVid19
Spikes
Mutation-mechanism :
Prion-Protein-Scrapie
Creutzfeldt-Jakob-Krankheit
Erkrankung/infection + Anti-Vakzine : Kettenreaktions-/chain reaction -Mechanism
https://www.n-tv.de/wissen/Diese-Impfstoff-Nebenwirkungen-gibt-es-article22244799.html (https://www.n-tv.de/wissen/Diese-Impfstoff-Nebenwirkungen-gibt-es-article22244799.html)
"Fett und Wasser trennen sich immer ;D ", erklärt Kaufmann.
Kein Grund aber für stärkere Bedenken, sagt Kaufmann
Solche Begleiterscheinungen sind bei Impfungen üblich, wie Stefan Kaufmann, emeritierter Direktor am Max-Planck-Institut für Infektionsbiologie
Kolloides Verhalten : https://motorkote.com/collections/all (https://motorkote.com/collections/all)
Solche Begleiterscheinungen,von ueberschaetztem - unwissenschaftlich wirkendem- Personals begleitet zu sein, sind bei Impfungen ueblich
BONZO-/BONZA-Nation !
John Kanzius and 5/6G ;D
arguments pro/contra https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znHrQIbmsTA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znHrQIbmsTA)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuKR1htWyFw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuKR1htWyFw)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfboqgNaQp8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfboqgNaQp8)
Hochspannungsleitungen,Hochspannungsmast :
Vogelnester,Eier-De-/Formation ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02hGs8gJCPU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02hGs8gJCPU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzHpunSrncM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzHpunSrncM)
et cetera and Pipa ohne P..
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dr+eneas+carneiro (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dr+eneas+carneiro) outside Semi-B ::) inside well formed ;) :)
"Eu estou do lado desse pequeno grupo, chamado de conjunto de trogloditas, indivíduos da (Era) paleolítica,
que defende o Estado nacional soberano."
Pinto da Costa-destaque : "Penso que isto chama-se CONSTITUTIONALISTA,certeza ?!" ULTRAs ? ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-57vrz6yVM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-57vrz6yVM) Saberdoria ? Em theoria é pra(c)tica !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RyMKDQ3g4A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RyMKDQ3g4A) ` armas transformar em "machinas" de energia libre
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmoSB3OgNMU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmoSB3OgNMU) :o
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falange#/media/Datei:Bandera_FE_JONS.svg (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falange#/media/Datei:Bandera_FE_JONS.svg) ::)
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonnengeflecht (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonnengeflecht)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/Recorrected_manipura.png (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/Recorrected_manipura.png)
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manipura (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manipura)
entrada/saida
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lichtkegel#/media/Datei:World_line-de.svg (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lichtkegel#/media/Datei:World_line-de.svg)
A "techno-political problem" in the 80/90´ for the east german inventor Dr.? Helmut Reichelt,Dresden :
elektromagnetische Verträglichkeit {f} <EMV>electromagnetic compatibility <EMC>
electromagnetic compliance <EMC>electr.
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.slimlife.eu/reichelt_heizung.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.slimlife.eu/reichelt_heizung.html)
based by
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=12&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19840321&CC=DD&NR=208029A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=12&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19840321&CC=DD&NR=208029A1&KC=A1#)
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=14&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19910228&CC=DD&NR=287597A5&KC=A5# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=14&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19910228&CC=DD&NR=287597A5&KC=A5#)
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=9&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19850619&CC=DD&NR=223743A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=9&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19850619&CC=DD&NR=223743A1&KC=A1#)
auch als Radar-System :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=15&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19930902&CC=DD&NR=301733A7&KC=A7# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=15&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19930902&CC=DD&NR=301733A7&KC=A7#)
In focus :
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=electrosmog+in+ecars (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=electrosmog+in+ecars)
https://www.archyde.com/electrosmog-in-the-car-german-carmakers-are-fighting-against-radiation/ (https://www.archyde.com/electrosmog-in-the-car-german-carmakers-are-fighting-against-radiation/)
https://www.who.int/peh-emf/publications/facts/fs299/en/ (https://www.who.int/peh-emf/publications/facts/fs299/en/)
The recommended limits are time-weighted average of 200 mT during the working day for occupational exposure, with a ceiling value of 2 T. A continuous exposure limit of 40 mT is given for the general public. Static magnetic fields affect implanted metallic devices such as pacemakers present inside the body, and this could have direct adverse health consequences. It is suggested that wearers of cardiac pacemakers, ferromagnetic implants and implanted electronic devices should avoid locations where the field exceeds 0.5 mT. Also, care should be taken to prevent hazards from metal objects being suddenly attracted to magnets in field exceeds 3 mT.
https://www.icnirp.org/ (https://www.icnirp.org/)
https://www.intechopen.com/books/modeling-and-simulation-for-electric-vehicle-applications/passenger-exposure-to-magnetic-fields-in-electric-vehicles (https://www.intechopen.com/books/modeling-and-simulation-for-electric-vehicle-applications/passenger-exposure-to-magnetic-fields-in-electric-vehicles)
Concern regarding potentially hazardous consequences of nonionizing EMR started to raise some decades ago, around the 1950s and 1960s, first about radio waves and microwaves, and more recently about low‐intensity fields as well, such as those generated by power lines, cell phones, and Wi‐Fi devices. The effects of nonionizing electromagnetic fields on the human body have been studied for many years already, and the results are conclusive in some cases and inconclusive in others [20 (https://www.intechopen.com/books/modeling-and-simulation-for-electric-vehicle-applications/passenger-exposure-to-magnetic-fields-in-electric-vehicles#B20)–23 (https://www.intechopen.com/books/modeling-and-simulation-for-electric-vehicle-applications/passenger-exposure-to-magnetic-fields-in-electric-vehicles#B23)].
Basically, there are two types of effects that electromagnetic fields can have on biological tissues: short‐term and long‐term effects. Short‐term effects, also known as acute effects, are those that appear instantaneously, or minutes after the beginning of the exposure. In general, these effects only take place under fields of considerable intensity, and disappear as exposure ceases. The biological mechanisms involved in these short‐term effects are relatively well known, as well as the field values (intensity and frequency) that cause them [24 (https://www.intechopen.com/books/modeling-and-simulation-for-electric-vehicle-applications/passenger-exposure-to-magnetic-fields-in-electric-vehicles#B24)–27 (https://www.intechopen.com/books/modeling-and-simulation-for-electric-vehicle-applications/passenger-exposure-to-magnetic-fields-in-electric-vehicles#B27)]. They are usually classified into two main groups: electrostimulant effects and thermal effects. The former are caused by the interaction between low‐frequency fields and living matter, either by polarization and dipole reorientation produced by electric fields, or due to induced currents generated by magnetic fields (for instance, a strong alternate magnetic field can induce electrical currents capable of stimulating nerves and muscles in an undesired way). The latter refer to the exchange of energy between fields and tissues, which rises their temperature. These thermal effects are completely negligible for frequencies under 100 kHz, but become relevant at higher frequencies (consider, for the sake of illustration, the operating principle of a microwave oven, whose working frequency is around 2.45 GHz). Electrostimulant effects are instantaneous, while thermal effects have a time constant of minutes.
Long‐term effects, on the other hand, are those that could appear after months or years of exposure. Several studies have tried to determine the relationship between long‐term exposure to electromagnetic fields and different pathologies (cancer, neurodegenerative disorders, etc.), without finding conclusive evidence for it. Approximately half of these studies show small correlations, just statistically significant, between long‐term exposure and these illnesses [28 (https://www.intechopen.com/books/modeling-and-simulation-for-electric-vehicle-applications/passenger-exposure-to-magnetic-fields-in-electric-vehicles#B28)]. In any case, the possibility of such relationships made the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) to classify low‐intensity, low‐frequency electromagnetic fields, and also radiofrequency electromagnetic fields, as "possibly carcinogenic to humans (Group 2B)" [24 (https://www.intechopen.com/books/modeling-and-simulation-for-electric-vehicle-applications/passenger-exposure-to-magnetic-fields-in-electric-vehicles#B24), 25 (https://www.intechopen.com/books/modeling-and-simulation-for-electric-vehicle-applications/passenger-exposure-to-magnetic-fields-in-electric-vehicles#B25)].
Generally speaking, it is extremely difficult to establish direct biological effects caused by long‐term exposure, and to obtain reproducible results [23 (https://www.intechopen.com/books/modeling-and-simulation-for-electric-vehicle-applications/passenger-exposure-to-magnetic-fields-in-electric-vehicles#B23)]. As a consequence, standards and guidelines to limit human exposure are elaborated based only on well‐known, scientifically proven, short‐term effects (with appropriate safety factors), and therefore long‐term effects are not taken into account. This applies to the two most extended guidelines nowadays, those from the International Commission on Non‐Ionizing Radiation Protection (ICNIRP) and those from the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers (IEEE). Both are briefly described subsequently.
3.1. ICNIRP's guidelines The most extended criteria for recommended exposure limit to EMFs were first proposed by the International Commission on Non‐Ionizing Radiation Protection (ICNIRP) in 1998 [22 (https://www.intechopen.com/books/modeling-and-simulation-for-electric-vehicle-applications/passenger-exposure-to-magnetic-fields-in-electric-vehicles#B22)]. These guidelines are based on current scientific evidence, as well as risk analysis performed by the World Health Organization (WHO). They establish protection recommendations considering well‐known mechanisms and appropriate security factors, the latter being due mostly to scientific uncertainty.
Less KW electro-magnetic drive is healthier, instead 300 KW or 30 KW 3 KW nominal e-drive for passengers car drive more than sufficient !
Anyone considered that those swabs used to test everyone for covid are also being used as a surreptitious means for collecting the populations DNA and entering it into a world DNA database? What do you suppose will happen when that comes to light?
Where there is power there will ALWAYS be abuse of power!
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doggerbank (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doggerbank) :o https://www.wwf.de/fileadmin/fm-wwf/Publikationen-PDF/Dogger_Bank_Sandbank.pdf (https://www.wwf.de/fileadmin/fm-wwf/Publikationen-PDF/Dogger_Bank_Sandbank.pdf)
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doggerbank-Krankheit (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doggerbank-Krankheit) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogger_Bank_itch (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogger_Bank_itch)
Das Sulfoxonium-Ion ist in sehr geringen Konzentrationen vorhanden, nur 5 ppm (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parts_per_million) der Trockenmasse der Moostierchen stellen entsprechende Ionen dar. Nach dem Kontakt kommt es zu einer Kopplung mit den Proteinen (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein) der Haut oder des Blutserums und damit zu einer Antigenbildung (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antigen), die die allergische Reaktion auslöst. Als Symptome (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symptom) bilden sich Hautrötungen (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erythema), Schwellungen (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96dem) und Blasen (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hautblase).
Anti-/Neutralizer SARS-Spikes therapy
Anti-serum : Neurodermitis,"Guertelrose",..... Pubertaets-Akne(neuro !)
+ Liquid nitrogen therapy
Wechseljahre : 1 human m/f : cycle changes per life ( ex-/in- ternal,both !?)
No time, but its Great on the Real Media!
When You want to have a LockDown, just order the RedOne's!
Quote from: NdaClouDzzz on December 18, 2020, 10:53:40 AM
Anyone considered that those swabs used to test everyone for covid are also being used as a surreptitious means for collecting the populations DNA and entering it into a world DNA database? What do you suppose will happen when that comes to light?
Where there is power there will ALWAYS be abuse of power!
You can't be right here because getting tested is difficult in many countries unless you have symptoms. If you were right, they would dish out tests freely.
Not trying to be right. Just curious if anyone else here has considered the possibility.
https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-conspiracy-theory-about-dna-from-covid-tests-makes-no-sense (https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-conspiracy-theory-about-dna-from-covid-tests-makes-no-sense)