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Now I'm waiting to get all parts together to start build better version of my motor. Today I should get my 1 kg 0,2mm cooper wire bobin. Then I need to get magnets and bearings and I can start builing.

Also, when I will build this machine, I will make: "How to make Newman Motor" many parts video and upload them on YouTube. I will tell clearly how to make one, that we could get more builders and more test results.

But I have few questions for Stefan and others who know about this motor:

1. Stefan, you said that I need 200-250 Ohms of wire to be wired for coil. I have counted that IF I will wire whole 1kg 0,2mm bobin, I will get near 2kOhms! That is too much is it? But at the same time, many guys say that we should put many kilograms of tiny wire, but it will go then past of 200-250 Ohms. So what should I do? Put whole 1 kg bobin in or just amount to get 225 Ohms?

2. Stefan, there is couple of guys here in Finland say that maybe you could explain HOW do this machine make overunity? Where it take his energy from? They are big sceptics, I try to tell them what is all about, but they want to hear You say where is overunity from.

3. Stefan, I have heard that I should use cooper and graphite for commutator to get good results, right?
               1. Where I can get good enought graphite brushes for commutator?
               2. Do I need oscilloscope to tune my commutator right?
               3. What I'm looking for getting overunity? I mean, what should scope show me? How hight should be voltage spices? How hight should be negative current spices? How much milliAmps should my motor take on input?

4. Stefan, how I need to connect battery? I mean, is it inportant that negative terminal from the battery goes to START of coil winds and from commutator brushes to positive of battery terminal? How they should be connected that battery would be charging?

5. Should motor turn slowly of fast to get overunity?

6. Is 12V 7Ah battery good enought to get it recharging by itself, by the motor? It is Lead-Acid Battery.

7. Should I make commutator whit just one ON and one OFF position, or should I make multiple ON's?

8. Stefan, I think you have saw in YouTube user named armakuni2000 (STARK). He are showing how was J.Newman's original commutator made. He tell that the commutator should make multiple ON's and multiple OFF's, but he mean by OFF, that it should shortout the coil. So if I will make that commutator, do "shortout the coil" that I need to make closed loop IN coil. I mean, should I connect START and END of the coild wires together. Do that mean shortout the coil?

That is much of questions, but try to answer them all, I'm trying to do succsessful motor, which make overunity, that I could report on that to everyone, and teach other people to make this thing work right too. So please try to answer them all.

Thank you much!

Careica

Hi Careica!
Overunity is the business of the crackpots. It's grazy to think, we can get some free energy from sparks, lighnings and burning graphite (= carbon) of the Newman's Machine. You can read facts of overunity and perpetual motion for example from http://www.phact.org/e/dennis4.html and http://www.phact.org/e/con_man.htm

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2510.msg114364.html#msg114364

QuoteIt should be best made of copper and graphite
as this gives the graphite oxidation free electron effect into the circuit.

;D
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2510.msg36469.html#msg36469

QuoteSo the Lutec technology is basically the same as the Newman technology based
of:
The direct electrical conversion of burning ( oxidation) a carbon brush into
electrical energy.

;D
Both Lutec and Newman motors are scams! He collects only money from stupid people!
It's funny to replicate machines, what haven't newer working as overunity!
;D

JLN did quite well with Aluminium contacts with copper brushes, Copper and Carbon sound swell but are not totally required, what is required is a short sharp segmented contact, Strips of Aluminium worked well for JLN.

I know Stefan won't agree but the way this motor work is the same way many/most FE works.
You create a sharp pulsed DC with the commutator which creates an aetheric effect that allows the coil to pull in the flux from the rotor magnet giving the backspike.

This is rather well indicated by the fact that it's polarity is the reverse of what the battery is putting in and it is the reverse of any collapse from the coil, the current it creates can be larger than created by the battery because it is induced in the coil and hence it's voltage is rather high. (just look at the energy in the spikes and calculate how much voltage it needs to fight the inductance)

Quote from: onlov on July 22, 2008, 12:11:44 PM
Hi Careica!
Overunity is the business of the crackpots. It's grazy to think, we can get some free energy from sparks, lighnings and burning graphite (= carbon) of the Newman's Machine. You can read facts of overunity and perpetual motion for example from http://www.phact.org/e/dennis4.html and http://www.phact.org/e/con_man.htm

Onlov,
how many Newman machines have you built ?
Have you ever tested personally any Newman machine with scopes and meters ?

I agree that Dennis Lee is more a business man trying to sell
other inventions and many sound like snake oil,
but in the case of Newman, if you use the right batteries you can get way much longer run times,
than the batteries normally could deliver.
And if you do the tuning of the sparks right you can also recharge the batteries
and have free mechanical output for very long time.

Quote from: aether22 on July 22, 2008, 06:16:42 PM
JLN did quite well with Aluminium contacts with copper brushes, Copper and Carbon sound swell but are not totally required, what is required is a short sharp segmented contact, Strips of Aluminium worked well for JLN.

I know Stefan won't agree but the way this motor work is the same way many/most FE works.
You create a sharp pulsed DC with the commutator which creates an aetheric effect that allows the coil to pull in the flux from the rotor magnet giving the backspike.

This is rather well indicated by the fact that it's polarity is the reverse of what the battery is putting in and it is the reverse of any collapse from the coil, the current it creates can be larger than created by the battery because it is induced in the coil and hence it's voltage is rather high. (just look at the energy in the spikes and calculate how much voltage it needs to fight the inductance)

Well,
but it also works without the rotating magnet !

The only thing it needs is a battery a graphite-copper commutator
and a big coil and you will get these negative back current spikes.

Regards, Stefan.

Quote from: hartiberlin on July 22, 2008, 07:47:08 PM
Well,
but it also works without the rotating magnet !

The only thing it needs is a battery a graphite-copper commutator
and a big coil and you will get these negative back current spikes.

Regards, Stefan.

So it should.

But the spikes are due to EM being pulled in.
Can you explain why they are in a backwards direction to the applied voltage? (when the brush is carbon-copper-carbon, or copper-aluminium-copper?  There is no unidirectional battery like connection here.

Question, how is the commutator being rotated without the magnet, likely you have another electric motor.

However it can pull energy from all sorts of surrounding or more distant EM fields.

hatiberlin:

QuoteOnlov,
how many Newman machines have you built ?
Have you ever tested personally any Newman machine with scopes and meters ?

Maybe you tell (scientific) me, how you get energy from sparks and burning graphite?
You scope tests are wrong, because if scope (or machine) grounded, it's not overunity at all. So your results are only disturbance in metering circuit. Better way to return energy of coil with diode, like in flyback converter.

And how many overunity machine you have seen at making in industrial. It's thousands of crackpots, who says he have maked overunity machine, but i haven't see any working machine in the world!

hartiberlin:

QuoteWell,
but it also works without the rotating magnet !

The only thing it needs is a battery a graphite-copper commutator
and a big coil and you will get these negative back current spikes.

Regards, Stefan.

Sounds exactly same as flyback converter. I had newer heard at flyback converter have overunity features. And better and more economical way to return coil energy back to battery is with diode without sparks, smokes and lightings!

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3654.msg61279.html#msg61279
hartiberlin:

QuoteThe Newman effect is based on the direct conversion of the contact
materials of dissimular metals at an arc at the commutator,
so there are coming free electrons into the
circuit which will give additional power output.

It sounds  as pseudoscientific explanation!
;D

hartiberlin:

QuoteThe Newman effect is based on the direct conversion of the contact
materials of dissimular metals at an arc at the commutator,
so there are coming free electrons into the
circuit which will give additional power output.

It should be best made of copper and graphite
as this gives the graphite oxidation free electron effect into the circuit.

So the Lutec technology is basically the same as the Newman technology based
of:
The direct electrical conversion of burning ( oxidation) a carbon brush into
electrical energy.

If I add some graphite in the timing switch of cars ignition coil symtem, I can charge battery with the ignition coil and then I can  remove cars alternator. Ignition coil has lot of sparks and when I add graphite on timing swicth, I have own overunitymachine!
Right, Stefan?
;)

Quote from: aether22 on July 22, 2008, 09:10:19 PM
So it should.

But the spikes are due to EM being pulled in.
Can you explain why they are in a backwards direction to the applied voltage? (when the brush is carbon-copper-carbon, or copper-aluminium-copper?  There is no unidirectional battery like connection here.

Question, how is the commutator being rotated without the magnet, likely you have another electric motor.

However it can pull energy from all sorts of surrounding or more distant EM fields.

Well,
could be, that it pulls energy in from the earth magnet field.

But one thing is for sure:
The dissimular graphite-copper commutator with the plasma spark jumping acts
like a battery in the circuit, where the plasma of the spark is the electrolyte.
This way this additional  "battery" pumps energy into the circuit during the spark
and thus therefrom comes the additional energy that we see in these negative current spikes.

I have long enough studied this effect and will soon build it into a new motor
that will drive my upcoming electroscooter after my vacations.

Regards, Stefan.

hartiberlin:

QuoteI have long enough studied this effect and will soon build it into a new motor
that will drive my upcoming electroscooter after my vacations.

Regards, Stefan

I know, this overunity sites is good business for you, but you need to tell bullshit to keeping OU-fans and  people on this sites!  I think You are not so stupid, but you need to tell bullshit of overunity like that for running this business. Good Luck, Stefan!  ;) 

hartiberlin:

QuoteBut one thing is for sure:
The dissimular graphite-copper commutator with the plasma spark jumping acts
like a battery in the circuit, where the plasma of the spark is the electrolyte.
This way this additional  "battery" pumps energy into the circuit during the spark
and thus therefrom comes the additional energy that we see in these negative current spikes.

No Bullshit to it onlov, The BEMF is there. problem is people are too damn stupid to know how to collect it and use it. :)

Quote from: onlov on July 23, 2008, 08:35:50 AM
hartiberlin:
I know, this overunity sites is good business for you, but you need to tell bullshit to keeping OU-fans and  people on this sites!  I think You are not so stupid, but you need to tell bullshit of overunity like that for running this business. Good Luck, Stefan!  ;) 

hartiberlin:

Careica:

Quote8. Stefan, I think you have saw in YouTube user named armakuni2000 (STARK). He are showing how was J.Newman's original commutator made. He tell that the commutator should make multiple ON's and multiple OFF's, but he mean by OFF, that it should shortout the coil. So if I will make that commutator, do "shortout the coil" that I need to make closed loop IN coil. I mean, should I connect START and END of the coild wires together. Do that mean shortout the coil?

These pictures shows the costruction of the commutator:
http://overunity.com/newman2/comm1.gif
http://overunity.com/newman2/comm2.gif

Coil Short Out  means maybe shortcut = short circuit the coil?

Quote from: onlov on July 24, 2008, 01:25:24 AM
Careica:
These pictures shows the costruction of the commutator:
http://overunity.com/newman2/comm1.gif
http://overunity.com/newman2/comm2.gif

Coil Short Out  means maybe shortcut = short circuit the coil?

And this mean that I need to connect START of the coil windings whit END of the coil winings when brushes touch those "Shortout" terminals. Did I get it right? And when it is on that "Shorout" stage, then battery shouldn't give any energy to the system, so the system should be off when Shortout happend, right?

Now guestion to Stefan, is it important to have some amount of "ON" terminals on multicontact commutator, and multiple "Shortout" terminals? Or can I just randomly put some amounts of "ON" terminals but only at 180 degree?

Stefan, please, can you anserw those 8 guestions what I have sendet? I realy need anserw because I have all parts now, and I can start builing, but I need to know those things first. So please, anserw as fastest you can.

Careica

After seeing the video of Joe Newman I am deeply impressed.
On the other hand: Joe Newman says it is so easy?
My thinking: May be it is easy, I don't know.
But when it is so easy why can't I buy such an engine in the shop round the corner of me or every shop out there?
Why aren't there machines or cars out there they run with Newmans machine?
Why can't I get a simple instruction to make my own Newman machine (I am not an engineer but it is apparently simple)?

Ok, I can hear the voices: It is forbitten, the oil concerns wouldn't allow it.
But why they allow solar energy and wind energy?

Show me a usable instruction for Newman engines and I will forget all my doubts.

AlanA

Careica:

QuoteAnd this mean that I need to connect START of the coil windings whit END of the coil winings when brushes touch those "Shortout" terminals. Did I get it right? And when it is on that "Shorout" stage, then battery shouldn't give any energy to the system, so the system should be off when Shortout happend, right?

If you connect all copper pieces of commutator marked Short Out together, it makes short circuit of coil automatic through the brushes. It's so easy!

QuoteNow guestion to Stefan, is it important to have some amount of "ON" terminals on multicontact commutator, and multiple "Shortout" terminals? Or can I just randomly put some amounts of "ON" terminals but only at 180 degree?

Multicontact commutator is better choice, You have costruction of the commutator in this pictures:
http://overunity.com/newman2/comm1.gif
http://overunity.com/newman2/comm2.gif
You can connect so many firing pieces to the battery slide (hub) you want! And you can connect so many short out pieces together you want! It's so easy again!

Quote from: AlanA on July 24, 2008, 03:59:25 AM
After seeing the video of Joe Newman I am deeply impressed.
On the other hand: Joe Newman says it is so easy?
My thinking: May be it is easy, I don't know.
But when it is so easy why can't I buy such an engine in the shop round the corner of me or every shop out there?
Why aren't there machines or cars out there they run with Newmans machine?
Why can't I get a simple instruction to make my own Newman machine (I am not an engineer but it is apparently simple)?

Ok, I can hear the voices: It is forbitten, the oil concerns wouldn't allow it.
But why they allow solar energy and wind energy?

Show me a usable instruction for Newman engines and I will forget all my doubts.

AlanA

Simple answer to your question: On the World we haven't any one overunitymachine, that really works!

to ONLOV

I am confused.
You are working on a newman motor. But isn't this an overunity machine?
Ok. Joe Newman doesn't say he has an overunity machine but what can you call a machine that gets more out than you gave in?

Quote from: AlanA on July 24, 2008, 08:17:03 AM
to ONLOV

I am confused.
You are working on a newman motor. But isn't this an overunity machine?
Ok. Joe Newman doesn't say he has an overunity machine but what can you call a machine that gets more out than you gave in?

Onolov has not build any Newman motors. Do you know why he say overunity is imposible? Because he belive in thermodynamical laws etc. But Newman motor don't harm any laws of physic.

Onolov, please, build one, then tell your results! It is not hard at all to build one!

And once more, if somebody have foundet some laws of physic then we all have to belive them blindly like zombies? Why? Maybe they are wrong.

And why there are not any overunity machines in world? Maybe because there are peoples like you don't belive those things at all! Maybe because no-one want to invest in those machines, because they scear about liers.

But I definetly think there are those machines in world.

Please, build one and make those good tests, because you seems to be smart about those things. Just for proov, make it.

Quote from: onlov on July 24, 2008, 04:50:46 AM
Simple answer to your question: On the World we haven't any one overunitymachine, that really works!

Onluv,
several:
Testatika,
Finsrud,
Morray,
Gray,
etc..
Onluv,
better educate yourself !

Quote from: onlov on July 24, 2008, 04:35:51 AM
Careica:If you connect all copper pieces of commutator marked Short Out together, it makes short circuit of coil automatic through the brushes. It's so easy!

Multicontact commutator is better choice, You have costruction of the commutator in this pictures:
http://overunity.com/newman2/comm1.gif
http://overunity.com/newman2/comm2.gif
You can connect so many firing pieces to the battery slide (hub) you want! And you can connect so many short out pieces together you want! It's so easy again!

This is a very old commutator design and was only valid for the
very first 7500 pound machine with its very big magnets.

With smaller machines it is okay to pulse the supply voltage
via the commutator to the machine.
No shortout segment needed.

The sparking, when the current switches off from the coil
is enough to do the magic.

You need a graphite-copper switch( commutator)
to really see the big back current spikes.

This is one secret Newman does not tell you yet, but I am telling you ! ;) :D

Careica:

QuoteOnolov has not build any Newman motors. Do you know why he say overunity is imposible? Because he belive in thermodynamical laws etc. But Newman motor don't harm any laws of physic.

Onlov, please, build one, then tell your results! It is not hard at all to build one!

Newman has only big mouth and he sell only "sneakoil", books and collect money from people. Why we cannot buy Newman "overunity motor". Because it has newer working as overunity!

Hartiberlin:

QuoteOnlov,
several:
Testatika,
Finsrud,
Morray,
Gray,
etc..
Onlov,
better educate yourself !

Stefan, I have educated very match these "overunity" machine. All of these are scams or misunderstands of crackpots!
And how many overunity machine you have seen at making in industrial. Maybe Testatika Finsrud, Lutec...? Or outsider professional has research, its really work? It's thousands of crackpots, who says he have maked overunity machine, but i haven't see any working machine in the world!

Maybe you read this site first and you will landed safety on the Earth from the clouds!
http://www.phact.org/e/con_man.htm
Or I can buy overunitymachine from you or from other crackpot. I only researh the Machine before buying. I pay to you 10 000?, if it really works!

Quote from: hartiberlin on July 24, 2008, 03:35:32 PM
This is a very old commutator design and was only valid for the
very first 7500 pound machine with its very big magnets.

With smaller machines it is okay to pulse the supply voltage
via the commutator to the machine.
No shortout segment needed.

The sparking, when the current switches off from the coil
is enough to do the magic.

You need a graphite-copper switch( commutator)
to really see the big back current spikes.

This is one secret Newman does not tell you yet, but I am telling you ! ;) :D

Stefan, please, can you answer those 8 guestions? I realy need answer to start building my machine! Please!

Even if it sounds frustrating: I think ONLOV is right.
Where are the engines which runs? Where can I buy it? Where can I get the construction manuel?
It is not helpful to make a large list of inventors who claim to have an overunity engine. Where can I buy it!!!
I think everyone of us would pay a large sum of money for it.

Quote from: hartiberlin on July 24, 2008, 03:35:32 PM

This is one secret Newman does not tell you yet, but I am telling you ! ;) :D

So do you know any other secrets stefan that you could be holding on to, whats your opinion on what newman says about mechenical efficientcy increacing with motor size? and if you agree is this partially to do with a bigger newman motor has a bigger permenant magnet? i think it would cos the pwer from permenant magnet is free, i know bigger coil makes more efficiencty because bigger backspike.

Careica:

QuoteStefan, please, can you answer those 8 guestions? I realy need answer to start building my machine! Please!

I cannot understand, why all the things are difficult to you. Stefan told to you, you need not at all "short out" segments.

You need only firing segments. You need to experiment, how many degrees of rotation is best choice for firing pulses. Maybe 30 - 45 degrees, but you can make firing pulse segments full 180 degrees of rotation, and you can connect so many segment together (to slider hub) you want.
Your motor is experimental project, right? You need to experiment more and ask little bit less!  ;)

Quote from: onlov on July 25, 2008, 02:54:42 PM
Careica:
I cannot understand, why all the things are difficult to you. Stefan told to you, you need not at all "short out" segments.

You need only firing segments. You need to experiment, how many degrees of rotation is best choice for firing pulses. Maybe 30 - 45 degrees, but you can make firing pulse segments full 180 degrees of rotation, and you can connect so many segment together (to slider hub) you want.
Your motor is experimental project, right? You need to experiment more and ask little bit less!  ;)

Have you even read those guestions? I ask about how much of wire should I put in! I have 1 kg spool 0,2mm wire, it should make coil 1,9 KOHMS! And he said 200-250 Ohms, but at the same time, much of guys say that more tiny wire is better. So?

I understand about commutator, but I need realy answer to those 8 guestions to not make any fool things while build my machine.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2341.msg31244.html#msg31244

QuoteHi All,
the last 2 days I have pondered a lot about the direct conversion
of  carbon to electricity in a new fuel cell.

As this would be an ultimate green cycle
to use charcoal or carbon from biomass waste to
convert directly to electricity without burning and
with high efficiency higher than 60 % !

There are a few new direct carbon conversion
fuel cells now developed, but all of them have the problem,
that they are using high temperatures for the KOH
electrolytes or Sn metal electrolyte.


What I experienced with my Newman machine studies is,
that there also is carbon used inside the brushes of the
commutator and I also got a positive confirmation
answer from the Newman engineers,
that the Newman back spike current effect only works well,
when they used a copper-graphite(conductive carbon)
pair as the commutator contact points.
With other metal combinations and without graphite the
strange big back current spike into the battery was not seen.


So it seems there is now another possibility to convert carbon
directly to electrical energy !

As the plasma that comes up, when we fire a BackEMF pulse
via a coil across a sparkgap from copper and graphite electrodes,
we have there a battery cell, that has 2 different metal electrodes
(Copper and Graphite) and have an electrolyte, which is the plasma
inside the spark of the sparkgap !

This way we can "burn" the graphite electrode in air (oxidize it)
and thus produce
additional current into the circuit !

This is probably also the main effect of the Newman motors
and all "overunity" systems that are sparkgap based on !

There you just oxidize the electrode materials inside the
hot plasma spark and use this as a basic battery cell to
get additional free electrons flowing into the circuit.

I will now try to scale this effect up and see, if I can
burn more graphite faster via bigger sparks and just get
more electricity into the coil-sparkgap-battery system this
way and recharge batteries this way.

This then would be a very efficient direct conversion
of carbon material into electrical energy and could
be stored in accumulator batteries without the
need of high temperature electrolyte like KOH or simular
agressive substances !

Regards, Stefan.

I have rotate brush assembly of my drilling machine so, at graphite brushes make lot of sparks.
Now I get lot of free energy an I will need not at all the electric power company!
Thank's Stefan!
;D
I have read You are studied at the technical university of Berlin. I think there your brains are washed with nonsense? I am very confused...

Onlov,

The link that you showed are links about con-artists who sell free energy. In this OverUnity site, users are encouraged to experiment and try on their own along with like-minded individuals using their own resources. In fact, somewhere along this thread, you were even encouraged to build it yourself!

If the project succeeds or fails, everyone here will be able to discuss what made the project succeed or fail. Nobody is faking anyone to buy fake motors here. Right now, I'm also working on my own replication, using my own tools, wires and magnets -- stuff I found in a junk shop. Almost zero cost.

Quote from: onlov on July 26, 2008, 01:24:06 AM
I am very confused...

Yes, it seems  you are very confused...

Why don?t you study the topics some more and see that there is "light"...

There will be soon coming out many products...

Quote from: hartiberlin on July 28, 2008, 08:02:22 PM
Yes, it seems  you are very confused...

Why don?t you study the topics some more and see that there is "light"...

There will be soon coming out many products...

Stefan, please  :D Can you answer those 8 guestions? I realy need answer to start build my own motor! I have all parts now and only waiting that You answer those 8 damn guestions  ;D

Please

Quote from: hartiberlin on July 28, 2008, 08:02:22 PM
Yes, it seems  you are very confused...

Why don?t you study the topics some more and see that there is "light"...

There will be soon coming out many products...

Of course I hope really working OU-machines will come! But in this moment we have only OU-machines, witch is working only inside heads of the crackpots.
Stefan, I understand it's your business to talk nonsenses on this forum!
I don't believe you are really so stupid...

Have any of you read the Norm Bliss story. It is an account of Joe Newman's work with Mr Bliss on a funded project. The more I watch Newman the more this story seems to make sense:

http://www.phact.org/e/skeptic/biss.htm (http://www.phact.org/e/skeptic/biss.htm)

The Norman Biss story was discussed already long time ago.
If you search here in the forum , then you will find it.

Norman Biss did not understand the Newman technology and made
bad comments about Newman?s work style , when they were forced to work together,
cause Biss?s boss financed  Newman to build 2 new prototype motors.

Then Newman had enough with Biss and pulled out and took one motor with him.

Norman Biss never finished the second motor he promised to build
for his boss, who financed Newman at this time,
cause Biss did not understand it.

I had email contact at this time with Biss and I surely
saw from his email answers, that he did not understand the principle...


Biss was only good in critising Newman, but also later never
came forward with any finished 2nd motor that he had also promised to me
which he wanted to show later on...
So Biss broke his promises

There are many simular stories on Eric Krieg?s phact.org
site to discredit some inventors...or which are just out of context
or just hear and say stories...as Krieg is
a professional skeptic.

Surely Newman is a hard character to work with, cause he is very dominant type.
but you have to accept this or just don?t work with him...

I see it this way,
that Norman Biss was just  jealous, that he did not succeed
to get the 2nd motor done alone, when "Sledgehammer Joe" left...
;D

Regards, Stefan.

Thanks Stefan,

I didn't think to search for the story.

Quote from: Careica on July 22, 2008, 02:38:10 AM
Hello all!

Now I'm waiting to get all parts together to start build better version of my motor. Today I should get my 1 kg 0,2mm cooper wire bobin. Then I need to get magnets and bearings and I can start builing.

Also, when I will build this machine, I will make: "How to make Newman Motor" many parts video and upload them on YouTube. I will tell clearly how to make one, that we could get more builders and more test results.

But I have few questions for Stefan and others who know about this motor:

1. Stefan, you said that I need 200-250 Ohms of wire to be wired for coil. I have counted that IF I will wire whole 1kg 0,2mm bobin, I will get near 2kOhms! That is too much is it? But at the same time, many guys say that we should put many kilograms of tiny wire, but it will go then past of 200-250 Ohms. So what should I do? Put whole 1 kg bobin in or just amount to get 225 Ohms?

Use so much, that in the static case where the coil is just switched onto the battery, the current will
be around 50 mA.

So at 12 Volts this is 240 Ohms.

Quote
2. Stefan, there is couple of guys here in Finland say that maybe you could explain HOW do this machine make overunity? Where it take his energy from? They are big sceptics, I try to tell them what is all about, but they want to hear You say where is overunity from.

From the galvanic cell, that is the dissimular commutator points graphite and copper and the plasmaspark between it
is the electrolyte.
Then you have this additional battery in the circuit that is providing the additional energy.

Quote
3. Stefan, I have heard that I should use cooper and graphite for commutator to get good results, right?
               1. Where I can get good enought graphite brushes for commutator?

From DC motor brushes.

Quote
               2. Do I need oscilloscope to tune my commutator right?

well it is better, but surely you can do it without,
if you watch the battery voltage.

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               3. What I'm looking for getting overunity? I mean, what should scope show me? How hight should be voltage spices? How hight should be negative current spices? How much milliAmps should my motor take on input?

During running, the positive input current should be only around 2 to 5 mA on average.

Then you have from time to time the negative current spikes, which are about 500 mA to 1 Amperes big but only
last very shortly in the RF range.
At least in small 5 kG range machines..

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4. Stefan, how I need to connect battery? I mean, is it inportant that negative terminal from the battery goes to START of coil winds and from commutator brushes to positive of battery terminal? How they should be connected that battery would be charging?

Probably not important, just try it.
You have tomake sure the commutator galvanic cell is wired right in series, so
that the voltages add up this way, that the battery is recharged during these negative
current spikes...

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5. Should motor turn slowly of fast to get overunity?

Depends, on if you want more back current spikes ( slow rotation)
or more mechanical output ( faster rotation and less back spike energy
to recharge the batteries)
Better first go for slower rotation and more backspikes..

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6. Is 12V 7Ah battery good enought to get it recharging by itself, by the motor? It is Lead-Acid Battery.

Yes, should be enough,
otherwise you should use a used car battery 12 Volts 30 Ah.

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7. Should I make commutator with just one ON and one OFF position, or should I make multiple ON's?

For first start, just one ON is enough.

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8. Stefan, I think you have saw in YouTube user named armakuni2000 (STARK). He are showing how was J.Newman's original commutator made. He tell that the commutator should make multiple ON's and multiple OFF's, but he mean by OFF, that it should shortout the coil. So if I will make that commutator, do "shortout the coil" that I need to make closed loop IN coil. I mean, should I connect START and END of the coild wires together. Do that mean shortout the coil?

No, this is a very old commutator design and was only made for the very first big motorwith 7500 pound.

This is not needed for the under 10 Kg devices.
There you need only a short on pulse to carry the magnet further on by one more rotation,
so only energizing the coil for about 30 degrees once per rotation.
that is all.

Best is to put 2 graphite copper points in series, so you double the
series galvanic cell voltage you create at the commutator and this also gives faster switching times...

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That is much of questions, but try to answer them all, I'm trying to do succsessful motor, which make overunity, that I could report on that to everyone, and teach other people to make this thing work right too. So please try to answer them all.

Thank you much!

Careica

Hope you will succeed.

Quote from: willitwork on July 29, 2008, 05:51:16 AM
Have any of you read the Norm Bliss story. It is an account of Joe Newman's work with Mr Bliss on a funded project. The more I watch Newman the more this story seems to make sense:

http://www.phact.org/e/skeptic/biss.htm (http://www.phact.org/e/skeptic/biss.htm)

Very interesting site!
http://www.phact.org/e/skeptic/biss.htm
I think, almost of this story is truth.
And his (Joe Newman) presentation/sales videos are so preaching and godlike...

www.phact.org/e/skeptic/biss.htm
Hmm ...  big affray for this shrug the shoulders device. One can?t build himself, second shows off $15k ...turbidity in both stories. What is matter with you, honoured inventor and engineer?
This engine is weak and far not panacean ...its noisy toy, you can see it in every schoolbook, abc of electric motors, when explaned Lenz's Law, most primitive DIY electric motor. Back EMF used for charging battery - and so what? Take off  battery! Working??? NO!!  Or dont switch off - just try with load. Good?  It does not use much power because it does not make much work. I dont want spend time to comment JN videos included installed wonder-engine on the van ... all these causes cry aloud, disgrace ...
I like when people doing something ... and of course most of all I like when well done ... I like overunity stuff very much, but I dont like disvalued hoop-jump circus, I dont like barefaced lies, cheatings and humbuggeries.
khabe

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2341.msg31244.html#msg31244

QuoteAs the plasma that comes up, when we fire a BackEMF pulse
via a coil across a sparkgap from copper and graphite electrodes,
we have there a battery cell, that has 2 different metal electrodes
(Copper and Graphite) and have an electrolyte, which is the plasma
inside the spark of the sparkgap !

Back_emf pulse have wrong polarity to charge the battery. Plasma spark only spend electricity (voltage loss) and makes only heat. And burning the graphite (=carbon) makes only heat, not electricity. And "plasma battery cell" can have wrong polarity with battery (and with voltage loss of plasma spark) and decrease voltage...

Man who are studied at the technical university of Berlin, speak lot of nonsenses about the Newman machine and OU...   

Maybe better way to get additional (back_emf) energy from coil and put it back to battery:

http://www.munkuvat.org/kuvat/108328.jpeg
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00380/2285504.gif

Wonder that Newman motors uses only half of possibilities - why half-bridge drive? Why only Push or Pull -  Why not Push and Pull ??? This is mystery for me - why geniuses do not use all what God is sotto voce telling. Of course, when read about he (JN) does not know much about back-iron - how he can know about using back and forth effect for rotary drive - because he uses only one-way ticket  ;) When full-bridge (H-bridge) drive then instead Push or Pull will come Push and Pull  forces -  twice more torque. And why these commutators ... why reed-switches? Why not hall sensors or opto-relays? Next step is to use Back EMF for timing - get sensorless drive ...
When outer side of (motor)windings coated with laminated back iron - then we?ll go more close to common motors. Huge number of different brands!
Instead of laminated back iron could be used rotating back iron - more less iron losses ...
like ThinCap motors, like Maxon coreless BLDC ... like Kontronik Tango (RC motor ;-)
When to use 3 similar motor windings - we?ll get common 3 phase slotless motor.
Look at Takao Shimitsu - normal guy from Japan - what he is doing -  http://www.cityfujisawa.ne.jp/~iijima-p/BRA2.htm
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=594518#post594518
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53833
Regards,
khabe

khabe:

QuoteWhen full-bridge (H-bridge) drive then instead Push or Pull will come Push and Pull  forces -  twice more torque. And why these commutators ... why reed-switches? Why not hall sensors or opto-relays? Next step is to use Back EMF for timing - get sensorless drive ...

These schematics are maked for beginners (for Careica) who understand nothing about H-bridge and electronics! Of course, H-bridge, hall or opto sensors are much better and modern solution...

QuoteWhen outer side of (motor)windings coated with laminated back iron - then we?ll go more close to common motors. Huge number of different brands!
Instead of laminated back iron could be used rotating back iron - more less iron losses ...

Newman motor is really old and ineffective solution. With iron as you tell it will become much more better...

Quote from: onlov on July 30, 2008, 01:43:52 AM
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2341.msg31244.html#msg31244
Back_emf pulse have wrong polarity to charge the battery. Plasma spark only spend electricity (voltage loss) and makes only heat. And burning the graphite (=carbon) makes only heat, not electricity. And "plasma battery cell" can have wrong polarity with battery (and with voltage loss of plasma spark) and decrease voltage...

Man who are studied at the technical university of Berlin, speak lot of nonsenses about the Newman machine and OU...   

Onlov,
the difference between me and you is, that you only rely on the theory you have learned,
but I did indeed test it with hardware.

Normally I would say you are right,
but the test with the hardware says the other way around.
The sparking gets additional energy into the circuit and recharges your batteries,
if you setup the sparking commutator right.

Have a look at these scope shots I got from my setup,
where you can see the huge negative current spikes, that recharge the batteries:


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All these negative spikes are real back current spikes
charging up the battery.

Stefan, I have seen these pictures before that thread. But I will see your metering circuit.
You are telling, back current spikes disappears if your scope is grounded. It's very strange effect.

Mh-mhh,
But why not to build at first The Motor like motor need to be built - well built, low losses, nicely made ...
After that you can add what ever - is it "Spark Device" or any else system for recharging batteries - is it "nuclear", "zero point", "vacuum" ...or comes from cosmos -  does not matter.
When motor runs without load, when what ever device charging batteries - then it runs very very long time,
As higher motor efficient - as longer it runs.
And Stefan,
I believe you have some replicated Newman Motor,
Please make video and show - what this motor is able to do - but it to work and show us,
No way? Or able for not much to work ...
Very sad, sorry,
khabe

Quote from: onlov on July 30, 2008, 06:08:27 AM
Maybe better way to get additional (back_emf) energy from coil and put it back to battery:

http://www.munkuvat.org/kuvat/108328.jpeg
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00380/2285504.gif

Where should the additional energy come from,
if you use transistor or MOSFET circuits ?

You just recycle stored energy in the coil with all
its ohmical losses.

The additional energy comes from converting the
galvanic energy at the commutator into the circuit
when the sparking occurs.

This was long the secret of Newman and I guess
he does not understand it himself,
otherwise he would not have talked about gyroscopic
particles, etc...

The Newman motor with electronic switching behaves
only as a lossy DC magnet motor !
It only gets special when we have the sparking
at the right commutator materials and only then
we get effects like these huge backspikes.

Only in the short sparking interval it behaves strange,
otherwise it just works as a normal lossy DC permanent magnet motor,
so all designs with just electronic commutation have failed so far.

It is the same with the Lutec device.

Only the arcing in the Lutec commutator gives it
its additional energy...

Hope this helps.

Regards, Stefan.

Quote from: khabe on July 30, 2008, 08:20:15 AM
Mh-mhh,
But why not to build at first The Motor like motor need to be built - well built, low losses, nicely made ...
After that you can add what ever - is it "Spark Device" or any else system for recharging batteries - is it "nuclear", "zero point", "vacuum" ...or comes from cosmos -  does not matter.
When motor runs without load, when what ever device charging batteries - then it runs very very long time,
As higher motor efficient - as longer it runs.
And Stefan,
I believe you have some replicated Newman Motor,
Please make video and show - what this motor is able to do - but it to work and show us,
No way? Or able for not much to work ...
Very sad, sorry,
khabe

After my vacation I will build it all up again and make new videos.
I also want then to modify an electroscooter to
get more mileage on the same charge this way.

Imagine charging up a small electroscooter, that you normally
get only 20 miles per charge and then you will get 150 miles
per the same energy charge !
Surely it will use up some graphite, but I have a cheap way
to produce my own graphite from coal brikets,
as I posted last year in the battery threads....

Quote from: Moab on July 23, 2008, 09:04:55 AM
No Bullshit to it onlov, The BEMF is there. problem is people are too damn stupid to know how to collect it and use it. :)

Well put, Moab!

Looks a little more than EMF in those scope shots -  ;)

By the way, in Eric Dollard's book on Tesla Transformers, he advises that Tesla's favorite method of producing the "effect" was capacitor discharge, and that Steinmetz indicated in his book on Transients that the discharge of a large inductor will also work and that is what you have here.  You get a 1000 feet or so of #12 and a car battery - with the correct switch you got something to write home about -  ;)

hartiberlin:

QuoteWhere should the additional energy come from,
if you use transistor or MOSFET circuits ?

Yes, but I don't believe at all, that burning graphite you can make extra energy.
I ask you the measuring circuit before. It's intresting, when you are measure with grounded scope, overunity features disappears.

It's necessary to measure over plasma spark cap too (Your "plasma battery") with scope and maybe is better to use balanced input with attenuator to get right result.

Attn: Herr Stephan,
I don want to get  not any Topic reply to my mailbox,
I have tried all the time -> Unsubscribe to this topic by clicking here: -> Would you like to deactivate notification on this topic? -> I do YES ...
but it comes again and again,
I dont want!
Any help available?
Or you do it especially for me - to victimise  ???
Gruss,
khabe

Quote from: khabe on July 30, 2008, 11:01:00 AM
Attn: Herr Stephan,
I don want to get  not any Topic reply to my mailbox,
I have tried all the time -> Unsubscribe to this topic by clicking here: -> Would you like to deactivate notification on this topic? -> I do YES ...
but it comes again and again,
I dont want!
Any help available?
Or you do it especially for me - to victimise  ???
Gruss,
khabe

I have changed the notification for you,
but you can do it also by yourself at:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=profile;u=11673;sa=notification

Regards, Stefan.

Quote from: onlov on July 30, 2008, 10:50:10 AM
hartiberlin:Yes, but I don't believe at all, that burning graphite you can make extra energy.
I ask you the measuring circuit before. It's intresting, when you are measure with grounded scope, overunity features disappears.

It's necessary to measure over plasma spark cap too (Your "plasma battery") with scope and maybe is better to use balanced input with attenuator to get right result.

Just wait and see.
The effect is there to produce additional energy via this galvanic dissimular metal
commutator sparking and it recharges the batteries.

It is just a direct carbon conversion to electrical energy,
but very efficient !

Quote from: hartiberlin on July 30, 2008, 11:10:54 AM
Just wait and see.
The effect is there to produce additional energy via this galvanic dissimular metal
commutator sparking and it recharges the batteries.

It is just a direct carbon conversion to electrical energy,
but very efficient !

Hmmm ??? It comes more and more interesting,
Regardless - why at all this motor? Why not just carbon brushes, bit copper and spark? When we dont need to spin this stupid monster then we will have much more free energy  :o
Otherwise asked - any proof that copper/carbon/spark makes energy?
If yes than this Motor is just the concealment of real PowerHouse ...and it is masterfully conspired ,
Now I can understand why Maestro kept at a distance to motor building , was concentrated to commutator ...
Regards,
khabe

Quote from: hartiberlin on July 30, 2008, 11:10:54 AM
Just wait and see.
The effect is there to produce additional energy via this galvanic dissimular metal
commutator sparking and it recharges the batteries.

It is just a direct carbon conversion to electrical energy,
but very efficient !

J. Naudin get same results and scope pictures without any graphite in commutator. So possible additional  energy aren't from burning graphite.
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/NMac0625.htm
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/NMac0627.htm

If back current spikes and overunity results disappears when scope is grounded, someting wrong is with the measuring circuit. So it's still lot of study with the Newman motor...

And if the motor don't run, when it connect to closed loop (back current to condensator) it is not overunity device.

hartiberlin:

QuoteWhere should the additional energy come from,
if you use transistor or MOSFET circuits ?

You just recycle stored energy in the coil with all
its ohmical losses.

I haven't newer claimed it's overunity device. Same case with transistor, mosfet, plasma spark and graphite, it's not working as overunity. Extra energy is not coming from space or from someting elsewhere.

QuoteThe Newman motor with electronic switching behaves
only as a lossy DC magnet motor !
It only gets special when we have the sparking
at the right commutator materials and only then
we get effects like these huge backspikes.

Newman motor is old fashion ineffective lossy motor, even you are burning graphite with it...

Quote from: onlov on July 31, 2008, 01:40:20 AM
hartiberlin:I haven't newer claimed it's overunity device. Same case with transistor, mosfet, plasma spark and graphite, it's not working as overunity. Extra energy is not coming from space or from someting elsewhere.
Newman motor is old fashion ineffective lossy motor, even you are burning graphite with it...

Now it have gone too long!

Onolov! If you are so smart, then build that Newman motor, and bust overunity and show us your measurements!

Quote from: Careica on July 31, 2008, 02:29:26 AM
Now it have gone too long!

Onolov! If you are so smart, then build that Newman motor, and bust overunity and show us your measurements!

I haven't newer saying I am smart. I am now 60 years old and my profession and life's work is in electronics. I am radioamateur too. So I know very match with electronics and electricity.

If I will to build Newman motor you will to tell me it's maked totally wrong! You remember Mythbusters and Bedini motor. You are saying at finnish forum, they are maked it (bedini motor) totally wrong because of it it's not working as overunity.

You know it's easy to believe nonsenses of OU and free energy, if you know not at all in electronics and electricity.

Stefan are told, if scope is grounded, back current spikes disappears.

One possible explanation:

Coil of the Newman motor acts like resonance circuit. It's big coil with self-capasitance. The Coil oscillates and makes big magnetic and electric field. These capacitive or inductive fields can radiate to the shunt (wirewound?) resistor which is necessary to current measuring.
This radiation can get incorrect results.

Quote from: onlov on July 31, 2008, 08:00:19 AM
Stefan are told, if scope is grounded, back current spikes disappears.

One possible explanation:

Coil of the Newman motor acts like resonance circuit. It's big coil with self-capasitance. The Coil oscillates and makes big magnetic and electric field. These capacitive or inductive fields can radiate to the shunt (wirewound?) resistor which is necessary to current measuring.
This radiation can get incorrect results.

Heh! Mythbusters realy did build Bedini Motor APSOLUTELY wrong! There was no magnets! No Coils! There was only some DC motor which was spinning wheel. They tried to show MECHANICAL OVERUNITY, but Bedini show ELECTRICAL OVERUNITY. Mythbusters do get many bad comments on they forum about how worst they "bust" those myths.

But, why you just don't build that motor and see, if it will make overunity, if not, we can help you to build it beter. AND you will make diffrent measurements. That motor is not hard to build at all (Newman Motor). It will cost less than 20 euro, even less.

Please, try it out!

Quote from: onlov on July 31, 2008, 08:00:19 AM
Stefan are told, if scope is grounded, back current spikes disappears.

No,
my scope were always grounded and you still can see the
spikes as I showed in my scope shots.

Also I verified, that there was a big current spike,
as I put 2 graphite brushes very near into water and when the commutator
switched I got an arc under water.

This proves, that there is a back current spike.

Onlov,your negativity gets annoying.

I would suggest shut up until you have built yourself a machine.

Regards, Stefan-

Quote from: hartiberlin on July 31, 2008, 05:16:19 PM
No,
my scope were always grounded and you still can see the
spikes as I showed in my scope shots.

Also I verified, that there was a big current spike,
as I put 2 graphite brushes very near into water and when the commutator
switched I got an arc under water.

This proves, that there is a back current spike.

Onlov,your negativity gets annoying.

I would suggest shut up until you have built yourself a machine.

Regards, Stefan-

Stefan, about coil size. So I did not get understanding. Will I wound coil to get 250 Ohms or will I wind whole 1kg 0,2mm bobin in my motor and get near 2kOhms. Why some guys say "more tiny coil is better"? Which way I choice? Wind whole bobin (2kOhm) or just to get 250 Ohms?

Hi guys!

Small question here... do I need to have a very powerful magnet to run the newman motor?
I found some magnets from old speakers here. Do you think that will be enough? I do not have neo magnets

Also, theoretically speaking, can I power a 2Kilowatt home with this motor? How much equipment will I need?
(eg. copper wires, magnets, etc.) ;D

thanks!

Quote from: hartiberlin on July 31, 2008, 05:16:19 PM
No,
my scope were always grounded and you still can see the
spikes as I showed in my scope shots.

Also I verified, that there was a big current spike,
as I put 2 graphite brushes very near into water and when the commutator
switched I got an arc under water.

This proves, that there is a back current spike.

Onlov,your negativity gets annoying.

I would suggest shut up until you have built yourself a machine.

Regards, Stefan-

Stefan, you are little bit dishonest. You are saying in many many threads, if Newman machine or scope are grounded you cannot see back current spikes.
I find in couple minutes two:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2510.msg36522.html#msg36522

QuoteHmm,
what shunt did you use to take the input current scope shot ?
Is the scope grounded ?
Please remove the grounding.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2510.msg35138.html#msg35138

QuoteP.S. The grounding is only related to the scope ground,
if you want to take scope measurements.
Otherwise don?t ground the Newman machine as this
will short out the RF bursts to ground, so the RF power
is lost..

I am quite sure Your "back current spikes" are only measuring error. I have asked your measuring circuit. You want not get it. It seems to be, Your overunity talking is only a big cheat. Your pages and advertisement on it is your business and it's necessary to talk nonsenses to forums readers...  :(

Why You don't measure over plasma spark with scope and prove features of your "plasma battery"?
It's also necessary to measure your back current spikes when motor is loaded...


http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1628.msg15353.html#msg15353

QuoteYes, in some test it was producing around 135 % efiiciency. But the main output is in the RF burst and it is hard to capture and convert. I will try to use the new principle from the Steven Mark thread to see if it can be used by coupling it to a 90 degree coil wound around it...

So, your "overunity" features are totally useless!

Quote from: bogchiblaster on August 01, 2008, 02:45:08 AM
Hi guys!

Small question here... do I need to have a very powerful magnet to run the newman motor?
I found some magnets from old speakers here. Do you think that will be enough? I do not have neo magnets

Also, theoretically speaking, can I power a 2Kilowatt home with this motor? How much equipment will I need?
(eg. copper wires, magnets, etc.) ;D

thanks!

Neo magnets are better, but it's important, at magnet poles turn as close as possible at inner surface of the coil.  Strongest field is close of poles.

two 2D-simulation.
Red color means strongest field.
correct length
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00992/2400441.gif

Too short magnet
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00887/2400431.gif

Maybe best shape for magnet. it's build many magnets with different size.
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00968/2395081.gif

If you ask Mr Stefan Hartmann, you can get much more than 2kW electric power. But I think Newman machine is "underunity" device! You can get little bit less as you put in... :(

Quote from: khabe on July 30, 2008, 03:02:19 PM
Hmmm ??? It comes more and more interesting,
Regardless - why at all this motor? Why not just carbon brushes, bit copper and spark? When we dont need to spin this stupid monster then we will have much more free energy  :o
Otherwise asked - any proof that copper/carbon/spark makes energy?
If yes than this Motor is just the concealment of real PowerHouse ...and it is masterfully conspired ,
Now I can understand why Maestro kept at a distance to motor building , was concentrated to commutator ...
Regards,
khabe

Because khabe if we are not gunna have the motor we still need the coil so that we connect the battery to create the magnetic feild then we disconnect the battery and the magnetic feild collapses and it pushes the electrons in the opposite direction and jumps across the contact point and makes a spark, 
so sparking happens on disconnection not connection of the battery, now according to stefan and i beleive that you charge the battery from the coil alone without the magnet (you would need something to drive the swith open and close) you could even maybe have an iron core to help make the feild a bit stronger along with a bigger feild collapse and more power output (backspikes)  but not as much power output (overall backspike plus mechanical power) as having a magnet in the middle, because you then
have what power you get from the electromagnetic feild interacting with the feild from the permenant magnet which is free.

So the answer to that is you need a coil and yes you can do it with or without a magnet, but without the magnet you forfit the mechanical power and if you use a magnet you open and close your contact materials instead of having to use another electric motor or something.

Newman machines dont have iron in them by the way as it hinders the performance, but if you were just using a coil i suppose you may aswell have an iron core. 

No way to talk round me,
Hundred differend brands of brushed motors - nobody has detected carbon/collector "fusion" effect - the only thing - just only losses + wear and tear,
Have seen arc-light copper melting furnace - huge carbon electrodes, copper, vacuum or without, nobel gases or without ... inductors, transformers ... what ever!
But only horrible noise - colossal amperage - huge costs - nowhere helpful fusion, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_arc_furnace
This is BLUFF!
khabe

PS:
We can read that JN?s Books are available, as well as in pdf format ... costs money - $400 - of course - but free energy guys are really free-men - offered cracked version - all must to be FREE ;)
Even intellectual properties of Maestro  :o

And:
Fusion of carbon takes place in high mass stars where core temperatures exceed 600 million degrees K. Carbon may fuse with itself or with other preexisting nuclei in a series of reactions leading to the build-up of heavier and heavier elements  >:(

Quote from: khabe on August 01, 2008, 07:57:53 AM
No way to talk round me,
Hundred differend brands of brushed motors - nobody has detected carbon/collector "fusion" effect - the only thing - just only losses + wear and tear,
Have seen arc-light copper melting furnace - huge carbon electrodes, copper, vacuum or without, nobel gases or without ... inductors, transformers ... what ever!
But only horrible noise - colossal amperage - huge costs - nowhere helpful fusion,
This is BLUFF!
khabe

Early street lamps has plasma spark cap between graphite rods. Maybe these devices are produced lots of free energy!  But at that time Stefan was not be born. So he has not opportunity to measure free energy from these lamps ;D

Synonyms for Overunity = sparks, lihtnings, smokes, magic, snake oil... ;)

Quote from: onlov on August 01, 2008, 08:29:16 AM
Early street lamps has plasma spark cap between graphite rods. Maybe these devices are produced lots of free energy!  But at that time Stefan was not be born. So he has not opportunity to measure free energy from these lamps ;D

Synonyms for Overunity = sparks, lihtnings, smokes, magic, snake oil... ;)

Did you just undersand what you said? Light bulbs are basicly inside of airtight glass container, or however you call it. Electrons cant fly there, because it is airtight.

+ There is no coil
+ There is no back spices

Careica:

QuoteDid you just undersand what you said? Light bulbs are basicly inside of airtight glass container, or however you call it. Electrons cant fly there, because it is airtight.

Don't embarrass yourself. You have any kind of knowledge of these lamps...

Quote from: Careica on August 01, 2008, 05:18:45 PM
Electrons cant fly there, because it is airtight.
+ There is no coil
+ There is no back spices

Apothegm of this year  - - -  Electrons cant fly there, because it is airtight :o
Im choked up!
khabe
Please close window - the last (brain)electrons fly away  ;D

All,
please ignore user:
onlov

He is twisting the facts and is not reading.
Thanks.

Quote from: Careica on August 01, 2008, 01:57:35 AM
Stefan, about coil size. So I did not get understanding. Will I wound coil to get 250 Ohms or will I wind whole 1kg 0,2mm bobin in my motor and get near 2kOhms. Why some guys say "more tiny coil is better"? Which way I choice? Wind whole bobin (2kOhm) or just to get 250 Ohms?

If you use the whole bobin ( 2 KOhm) you need to
have a higher supply voltage, which is okay.
You need to get around 2 to 5 mA current draw, when the motor is running
at full speed.
The more copper the better.

Use the most copper wire you can afford ( many turns of coil is import !)
and then use the right supply voltage by putting NiMH 9 Volts batteries in series
or better or bigger motors 12 Volts  lead acid cells in series.

So if you have 2 KOhm wire DC resistance you need for 50 mA
constant current without the commutator:
0.05 A x 2000 Ohm= 100 Volts supply voltage.

So if you use 2000 Ohm coil resistance you must use about 100 Volts
( so about 11 to 12 x 9 Volts NiMH cells in series)
and then with the commutator switches the input current will
go down to around 2 to 5 mA.

So if you want to have a safer suppy voltage, you need to get bigger wire
diameter to have the same number of wire turns for the coil and
then have a lower DC resistannce for the coil.

Would be good to have at least 10 Kg copper wire, so you have
enough turns of copper wire.

Hope this helps.

If you want to save money and use lesscopper, use my idea with the 5 LC tanks in series.

Regards, Stefan.

Still one example:

If you use a charge on the NiMH batteries for my upcoming scooter,
for instance I charge them up with
100 Watthours of energy and
normally the electroscooter will
only go 20 Miles with this energy charge on the batteries.

Then I will use the modified Newman motor
on the electroscooter and again I charge up the empty batteries
with 100 Watthours and then run the scooter with the modified
motor and I will get 150 Miles with the same driving habit and speed until the batteries are empty...

So that is, what I call  usefull overunity....

Maybe the batteries will even last for more miles.
We will see.

Quote from: onlov on August 01, 2008, 08:29:16 AM
Early street lamps has plasma spark cap between graphite rods. Maybe these devices are produced lots of free energy!  But at that time Stefan was not be born. So he has not opportunity to measure free energy from these lamps ;D

Synonyms for Overunity = sparks, lihtnings, smokes, magic, snake oil... ;)

No it exist Carbon spark lamps.
they have very high and brilliant  light intensity.
they are not glas bulb outside !!
the 2 carbon road are constructed that befor an "start" they toach anoter , and can "fire" with the "power switched on"
aft start 2 electromagnets on each axis of the carbon tate the carbon road autside, so that not more contacts with another BUT the spark ist lightning longer.
The magnet coil regulate also the now the flowing amperage (= Power in watts).
an regualte so (this way) also the ditances of the 2 carbon roads that lost the lenght afterr hours of permanent
lighnings.
I used mysel this lamps . in photografiic reproduction with large dimensions reproduction film in an
laboratory ( 45 years ago in Germany).

I know (by lecture) that this concept was used long before WW2 for street illumination.


I know myself that that lamps froduced an lot of RF, that distirbed any radio-station reveiving on an radio set
for geat distance.
also i seen some patents from about 1939, that use this carbon ark lamps for an "FE" producing device than make OU. so this is an way ! It is working , but dont ask me for verify it! (You must not belive, if you are familiary with electric you can work on it.)
Pese
Mail :  http://beam.to/zpe

Quote from: hartiberlin on August 01, 2008, 08:35:03 PM
All,
please ignore user:
onlov

He is twisting the facts and is not reading.
Thanks.

Sorry but Herr Stefan Hartman itself are liar and dishonest.  

Please, read this link and you see part of his lies!  :(
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5215.msg117675.html#msg117675

Quote from: hartiberlin on August 01, 2008, 08:45:18 PM
If you use the whole bobin ( 2 KOhm) you need to
have a higher supply voltage, which is okay.
You need to get around 2 to 5 mA current draw, when the motor is running
at full speed.
The more copper the better.

Use the most copper wire you can afford ( many turns of coil is import !)
and then use the right supply voltage by putting NiMH 9 Volts batteries in series
or better or bigger motors 12 Volts  lead acid cells in series.

So if you have 2 KOhm wire DC resistance you need for 50 mA
constant current without the commutator:
0.05 A x 2000 Ohm= 100 Volts supply voltage.

So if you use 2000 Ohm coil resistance you must use about 100 Volts
( so about 11 to 12 x 9 Volts NiMH cells in series)
and then with the commutator switches the input current will
go down to around 2 to 5 mA.

So if you want to have a safer suppy voltage, you need to get bigger wire
diameter to have the same number of wire turns for the coil and
then have a lower DC resistannce for the coil.

Would be good to have at least 10 Kg copper wire, so you have
enough turns of copper wire.

Hope this helps.

If you want to save money and use lesscopper, use my idea with the 5 LC tanks in series.

Regards, Stefan.

And if I use 200-250 Ohms coil will it work whit 12V L-A Battery? And what I understand that 9 V NiMH will not show "recharge" effect. I mean, if I start testing whit that 9V battery, his voltage would be let say 8,5V and then I run this motor for couple days, then measure voltages again, it will only drop, because it will not be able to take charge?

But will it still make OU-effect if I use 0,2mm wire and 200-250Ohms? I have countet, that in my bobin 1g = 3,6 meters. And 360 meters give me near 200Ohms, so it will be 100g of wire until I get near 200 Ohms, but that is small amount is it?

And what you think about that, if I use about 150g of wire for "motor coil" and rest of the wire I could wind too, but it could be like generator coil. What you think?

Quote from: onlov on August 02, 2008, 02:11:30 AM
Sorry but Herr Stefan Hartman itself are liar and dishonest.

Please, read this link and you see part of his lies!  :(

First learn english language, when you try to post name callings...

Quote from: hartiberlin on August 01, 2008, 08:50:25 PM
Still one example:

If you use a charge on the NiMH batteries for my upcoming scooter,
for instance I charge them up with
100 Watthours of energy and
normally the electroscooter will
only go 20 Miles with this energy charge on the batteries.

Then I will use the modified Newman motor
on the electroscooter and again I charge up the empty batteries
with 100 Watthours and then run the scooter with the modified
motor and I will get 150 Miles with the same driving habit and speed until the batteries are empty...

So that is, what I call  usefull overunity....

Maybe the batteries will even last for more miles.
We will see.

It's only nonsenses talk without proving. If Newman motors has efficiency 150/20 = 750% better as coventional motor, Newman will become a rich man. But all of this is talking of nonsenses without any kind of proves. With similar wishful thinking cows will be fly...  ;D

Quote from: hartiberlin on August 02, 2008, 03:56:03 AM
First learn english language, when you try to post name callings...

Yes, my english is bad. But I see, you understand me perfectly!
Maybe much worse thing is, you are studying at university of Berlin, but still you talk nonsenses of OU. :(
Herr Hartmann, Ich bin auch deutch in die schule gelesen, aber ich habe beinahe alles vergessen.

Quote from: onlov on August 02, 2008, 05:02:13 AM
Yes, my english is bad. But I see, you understand me perfectly!
Maybe much worse thing is, you are studying at university of Berlin, but still you talk nonsenses of OU. :(
Herr Hartmann, Ich bin auch deutch in die schule gelesen, aber ich habe beinahe alles vergessen.

My guestion about coil:

And if I use 200-250 Ohms coil will it work whit 12V L-A Battery? And what I understand that 9 V NiMH will not show "recharge" effect. I mean, if I start testing whit that 9V battery, his voltage would be let say 8,5V and then I run this motor for couple days, then measure voltages again, it will only drop, because it will not be able to take charge?

But will it still make OU-effect if I use 0,2mm wire and 200-250Ohms? I have countet, that in my bobin 1g = 3,6 meters. And 360 meters give me near 200Ohms, so it will be 100g of wire until I get near 200 Ohms, but that is small amount is it?

And what you think about that, if I use about 150g of wire for "motor coil" and rest of the wire I could wind too, but it could be like generator coil. What you think?

Onolov, why you dont build that motor? Is it so hard to you or what?

I can tell you why Newman motors are not powering our houses, because no one want to buy or investiment Newman machine, because people like you don't belive him. He has demostrates his machine many times, and no one want to buy it, so he are tired to demostrate it for dummies, who don't belive notin.

100kb upload only. come on administration how the f.... am i going to be able to send any plans by this mouseshit size.
had an improvement plan for the newman motor. and now all my comment painstackingly written gone. ahhhhhssss.
well i want to encourage you guys but onlove has good reasons to pose critics, i too see quite a normal engine here, plasma sparks on communitator, oh well. but i indeed believe overunity is possible. now i feel there are alot of blind amateurs hoping to find the bulls eye by luck, while i would love to see some insight and sharp minds comming up. like fusing you entusiastic right brained beloved brothers mind with onloves clever leftside.
Onlove have you not come across any interesting projects, we wont find new discovery by locking backward by old norms, there is no physics to describe culon forces, high spin atoms, meiznerfields, mind, consciousness. but i must agree in this one, i cannot see it either - just a simple generator.
but my posetive input plans and file was too big. get some f... construction going guys forget you "potplants" and get some efficiency going.
but again imagination is more important than knowledge. though a balance is ideal. also it is not the way to peace, the peace is the way.
love and light

Quote from: hartiberlin on August 01, 2008, 08:50:25 PM
Still one example:

If you use a charge on the NiMH batteries for my upcoming scooter,
for instance I charge them up with
100 Watthours of energy and
normally the electroscooter will
only go 20 Miles with this energy charge on the batteries.

Then I will use the modified Newman motor
on the electroscooter and again I charge up the empty batteries
with 100 Watthours and then run the scooter with the modified
motor and I will get 150 Miles with the same driving habit and speed until the batteries are empty...

So that is, what I call  usefull overunity....

Maybe the batteries will even last for more miles.
We will see.

Stefan claims his motor is least 150/20 = 7,5 time more effective as coventional motor. If conventional motor efficiency is 0,9, it's means Stefans motor get least 6,75 = 675% time as input power. If Stefan connect generator to his motor. Generator efficiency is about 0,9. It means, he get over 6 (600%) time more energy as motor input. He own perpetual mobile machine, which get 6 time more output as input!
;D

So Stefan Hartmann is saving the world! Or he is the biggest crakpot on the World!
Meine Damen und Herren!
Is he the biggest iventor on the World or the biggest fool on the planet?    :-\

Quote from: onormanns on August 02, 2008, 09:00:47 AM
100kb upload only. come on administration how the f.... am i going to be able to send any plans by this mouseshit size.had an improvement plan for the newman motor. and now all my comment painstackingly written gone. ahhhhhssss.
......
love and light

Hi Onormanns,

The 100kB limit concerns attachments to posts/replies like we are in now,  and you may upload up to 5MB files at a time (and repeat it one by one) to this Forum here: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=upload  and after upload you may find your files in the Download section and may inlude the link in your next post here for kind info to other members here, ok?  Thanks.


@Careica,   please take a look at a new member's excellent attempts on building a Newman motor here if you have not noticed it already: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5287.0.html and also a newbie here with questions: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2898.0.html 

My understanding on the coil you keep asking is that the more turns you make with the higher diameter of wire, it is the better.  Of course, more turns mean longer wire, hence higher copper resistance and the only 'cure' for reducing copper resistance is to use wire of higher diameter.  This involves higher rotary mass for the rotor, besides higher cost.
Quote from Stefan: If you want to save money and use less copper, use my idea with the 5 LC tanks in series.

And if you read the new member, Michelino experiment with this motor, it gets clear that the price for using smaller diameter of wire with many turns, you have to raise the supply voltage (because of the higher resistance of the coil).

Hope these are of some help. I do not know if you reach overunity with your present diameter wire that will give you "only" 200-250 Ohms resistance, who can foretell this? And do not bother in advance on the battery "recharge" effect, later with gaining more insight through experiments you will sure differentiate between a real charge and the "memory" effect...

rgds,  Gyula

Hi Stefan and all,

In my initial Newman Motor I used 2 coils 2500 turns each of awg 32 magnet wire (294 ohm total) and although it was best running under 18 volts (.025 ma) it could also run all day with a near depleted 9 volt battery without a recovery circuit.

It used 2 round speaker magnets mounted on a .25" steel shaft. They were well glued to prevent any fly off. We used the "no recovery circuit design" to tweak if for maximum rpm and we got it to close to 7,000 rpm but very low torque. I even contacted Jean Louis Naudin about it and his reply was: "J'ai visionn? la vid?o, mais je ne comprends pas bien la manip qui vous a permit de produire la rotation rapide du moteur ? 4000 RPM ?" (He didn't know why we could run it that fast).

***And we got it to run even faster with 2 simple tweaks: smallest possible contact (awg 32 size wire) and the addition of a contact enhancer "stabilant 22A".*** To late, I have told...  :) (A head scratcher for onlov)

If you want recovery, you must use a multi-segment commutator.

In my Version 2 of the Newman Motor, by just adding a 220vac 4uf cap across the coil and in parallel with the spark gap, the rotational speed of the motor doubles. When we have a big cap matched to the coil, the last Newman Motor built will use much less to run.

Take care,

Michel


***The picture is the scope trace of the motor running without hardware commutator as in the film I sent to JLN (he did not see this trace).***

Quote from: Michelinho on August 04, 2008, 03:50:50 PM
In my Version 2 of the Newman Motor, by just adding a 220vac 4uf cap across the coil and in parallel with the spark gap, the rotational speed of the motor doubles. When we have a big cap matched to the coil, the last Newman Motor built will use much less to run.

Hi Michel,

Do you mean making a parallel resonant circuit from the rotor's coil and the outside capacitor and find the frequency which will match to the frequency of the rotor?  (I think of the rotor RPM that corresponds to a frequency of course) 

This sounds a good idea to reduce further down the input power but in case the rotor's RPM changes due to any load change on it, then you would have to retune the parallel capacitor to follow the RPM too.

Thanks,  Gyula

Hi gyulasun,

There is still a lot I don't know about this motor, coil optimum frequency, ramp up time for the coil, the peak potential of the bemf, etc...

The commutator I use for now has 24 segments so I pulse 24 times per turn, at 200 rpm I pulse 4,800 times per minute which might be close or near to the minimum ramp up time for the coil. That will limit the maximum revolutions per minute.

The capacitor in place is mainly to dissipate the BEMF during trial tests, I would hate to burn through my magnet wire and scrap a coil. I have saturated the spark gap once and that was enough for me. Seeing a plasma ball around the spark gap and the short-circuit that it induced burnt a few contacts on the previous commutator did slow my effervescence. The final capacitor will be matched to the coil with enough reserve capacitance to promote a self sustained run. Will itself run, possibly, for how long, there too I hope to close the loop but it's not done yet.

My part is done on the motor, now it's my son-in-law's job to fill in the recovery system (Bedini style) and the capacitor matching. I'am already drawing the plans for the alternator and a Stubblefield cell which is this week's project.  :) I did a brainstorming session with him today and the concept is clear but will it work?

Take care,

Michel

There is a lot I understand about the Joseph Newman motor but this thing still has a few secrets that few know.

Re gyulasun,

I almost forgot to tell you another secret of the Newman Motor that many don't know. You run the motor for an hour and the coils are cooler than before the run test.... JLN saw this too.

Supraconduction or peltier effect? We are still speculating on this one....

;)

Michel

Josepf Newman claims his machine efficiency is 800%, maybe 8000% with better construction.
The Energy Machine of Josepf Newman, page 26.
(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aijaa.com%2Fimg%2Fb%2F00804%2F2466490.gif&hash=c15561af169039f6f2fcd03c1a3775d16fe22443)

Why he makes stupid and pathosfull demostration videos with nonsenses? Better way to demonstration is to connect generator to his overunitymachine as self running motor-generator, that produces electricity 8 times more as input power!

Maybe his motor is only scam. Is his motor really works as he says?
Propable not. If this is really working machine, it has been manufacturing and we can buy it from shops!

Yeah, hard to understand what causes such kind of uneducatedness.
Carbon fusion ...Supraconduction (au menu de la ...;-) ... what else?
Is it because The OverUnity Prize ?
I can unterstand our Moderator - this is just business - but some kind of limit about crass ignorance also need to exist - at least to allow free critique,
Any smallest critics will be beat the shit out of   - illiteracy, blither, bullshit and foolery be in flower,  Why???
I hope at least the same tolerance about dissenters,
With all my heart I do hope to see the overunity, I try myself as well,
My belief is that OU exist - but my understanding speaks that Newman motor is not overunity,
Why to interpret such kind of understanding as crime against OU community?
khabe

Another thing about the Newman machine. Construction of the Newman machine is wellknown. But anyone cannot replicate this machine as overunity. Not even the selfrunning machine...  :(

Quote from: onlov on August 05, 2008, 07:16:47 AM
Another thing about the Newman machine. Construction of the Newman machine is wellknown. But anyone cannot replicate this machine as overunity. Not even the selfrunning machine...  :(

Onolov, now you speak bullshit! There is for example JL Naudin did get his motor run 5 minuites WHITOUT ANY INPUT POWER! Just closed loop. Self-runner!

chunk2na did get his Newman motor which was as basicly builded as can (used flower pot etc.) and he did recharge DEAD battery, which could not be able to power nothing, to fully charget. Not overunity?

armakuni2000 report on his test overunity too. He are doing good tests if people ask him to do. And he take all it to video.

Stefan is reporting overunity too.

And yes, ofcorse, now you say they lie. But tell me, why they should lie? JL Naudin, chunk2na and armakuni2000 dont have ANY bisness whit this motor! They don't sell part, they don't sell motors, just sharing INFORMATION. Why they should lie? For fun? I think people have much more importan things to do.

Onolov, we have said you over 10 times that build your own motor. You cant give us no proov untill you try it yourself. Because this machine DO NOT broke any laws of physics and thermodynamic (which I see you love so much). BUILD IT YOURSELF!

Careica:

QuoteOnolov, now you speak bullshit! There is for example JL Naudin did get his motor run 5 minuites WHITOUT ANY INPUT POWER! Just closed loop. Self-runner!

chunk2na did get his Newman motor which was as basicly builded as can (used flower pot etc.) and he did recharge DEAD battery, which could not be able to power nothing, to fully charget. Not overunity?

armakuni2000 report on his test overunity too. He are doing good tests if people ask him to do. And he take all it to video.

Stefan is reporting overunity too.

And yes, ofcorse, now you say they lie. But tell me, why they should lie? JL Naudin, chunk2na and armakuni2000 dont have ANY bisness whit this motor! They don't sell part, they don't sell motors, just sharing INFORMATION. Why they should lie? For fun? I think people have much more importan things to do.

Onolov, we have said you over 10 times that build your own motor. You cant give us no proov untill you try it yourself. Because this machine DO NOT broke any laws of physics and thermodynamic (which I see you love so much). BUILD IT YOURSELF!

Youtube videos and JL Naudin reports are totally fully bullshit.
Same kind of nonsenses, like your video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrmmTcIjAmo
You are claimed, you saved 33% casoline with couple milliliter of HHO gas!  :) ;D
( http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=Careica&p=r )

Not any reliable proof of overunity action. Joe Newman claims his motor get 8 times more output as input. But where are proofs? Who are maked replica with these properties!?
Answer: No proofs, it's only nonsense talking...  ;D

Careica:
On your lawnmower video ... why you show many times this old kitchen sink? Is it co-star or something like secondary?
When you starting with notes - my right hand grab for glasses ... then understood that it was not mine fault  ;)
but ok,
Why this all, why gas engine, why these bottles, accus and hoses when - as you told yourself - is Newman Motor what makes all for free  ;)
Why you do not use it on your lawnmower  ???
cheers,
khabe

Quote from: khabe on August 05, 2008, 04:47:46 PM
Careica:
On your lawnmower video ... why you show many times this old kitchen sink? Is it co-star or something like secondary?
When you starting with notes - my right hand grab for glasses ... then understood that it was not mine fault  ;)
but ok,
Why this all, why gas engine, why these bottles, accus and hoses when - as you told yourself - is Newman Motor what makes all for free  ;)
Why you do not use it on your lawnmower  ???
cheers,
khabe

Same guestions for you two misters here: "Why you cant build this Newman motor?"

When I was testing hydrogen, it was my main project, I did not even think about build newman motor, now I do. Why not use newman motor to power lawnmower? Well maybe because newman motor not producing gasoline BUT it should produce "waste" hydrogen when battery is charging  ;)

What chicken are you talking about?  ;D

There was only 2 botles, and you say why? One of them make Hydrogen other is called "Bubler" it is safety tip. I don't wanted to blow up my cell.

But hey misters, make your own Motor!

I meant why not Newman motor drives your lawnmower (NewmanM instead Gas engine) - at the same time (wire out) makes hydrogen and charges batteries for your house  :o
Im ready to eat my pants if you are able to drive your wind-generator with Newman Motor - I mean successfully drive when heavy loaded, not stupid show off with LEDs.
About your hydrogen videos - oh dear! - I did not know you have so feeble sense of humour. At that experiments with +/- in water we did carry out somewhere in grade school - 40 years ago ...
You are speaking something about spark ... sorry -I did not see it ... but ok, it does not matter.
Let it be,
Dont worry,
Have a nice time,
khabe

Quote from: khabe on August 06, 2008, 03:20:48 AM
I meant why not Newman motor drives your lawnmower (NewmanM instead Gas engine) - at the same time (wire out) makes hydrogen and charges batteries for your house  :o
Im ready to eat my pants if you are able to drive your wind-generator with Newman Motor - I mean successfully drive when heavy loaded, not stupid show off with LEDs.
About your hydrogen videos - oh dear! - I did not know you have so feeble sense of humour. At that experiments with +/- in water we did carry out somewhere in grade school - 40 years ago ...
You are speaking something about spark ... sorry -I did not see it ... but ok, it does not matter.
Let it be,
Dont worry,
Have a nice time,
khabe

Onlov should realy build his own replication, because it don't cost much of money and it is easy to build.

Khabe, what you meaned whit wind generator?
          I think to put load on my motor. I will find diffrent weight flywheels for my motor.

The best overunity motor demonstration I have ever seen!  ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xukHXP6tDvU
:) :D ;D

Using the Joseph Newman motor as a starting point, I simulated his motor as an overly simplified LTSpice model in two modes: full throttle speed supplying 200 amps and cruising speed supplying 50 amps to this two coil simulation. The improved range per recharge of the battery pack is a gain from a 60 mile range to a range of several thousands of miles. Viewer be wary of taking these simulations literally. Also, the neon bulb might best be actualized by the use of a suitable spark gap to handle the high voltages, etc?

JPG screenshots of simulation...
https://is.gd/evfullthrottle

https://is.gd/evcruisingspeed

LTSpice asc files...
https://is.gd/evfullthrottleasc

https://is.gd/evcruisingspeedasc

References...
http://is.gd/fullthrottlecurrent

http://is.gd/evcruisingamps

http://is.gd/newmanchap6

BTW, the National Bureau of Standards admits in their report to shorting out the Newman coil by connecting a resistive load in parallel to the Newman coil of lower resistance than the Newman coil. Thus, a current division circuit was established in which a greater percentage of current would want to travel the Bureau's test load's path of least resistance rather than travel the path of greater resistance through the Newman coil and, thus, invalidate the test as being a non-exclusive test of the Newman device.

http://files.ncas.org/nbsreport/introduction.html