Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

[magpwr]

Nice Nick. Expression of your feelings?   Now you professional guys tell me, How to properly tune my Primary to secondary on my Kacher. I am in circle and do not know how to get out of it.  I use simple Brovin oscilator.

Now I have my resonant frequency of my secondary @1.294MHz  and some closests good resonant harmonic of my primary  @1.415MHz

The question is now, Should I change the value of the cap in the Brovin's oscilator, or can i just bridge the primary coil with proper cap to create LC tank?  I know I could play with the tap on my coli but my wire is insulated - so not so easy as to change the value of capacitor.

I believe the tuned Tesla is one of most important thinks to do to obtain free bits.  If properly tuned the input power might be just a fraction of what it takes now while the same output.   

hi John.K1,


This is the 1st step and the most important step-Take note your kacher osc frequency with antenna in place would need to follow kapanadze coil(Receiver coil) resonance frequency which is fixed(receiver coil) once you have followed winding steps.It is not the other way round.


For some of us eg:myself,Hoppy,itsu the receiver coil is around 1.6xx Mhz

So your kacher needs to radiate at this frequency.

For me this is what i do.Take the resonant frequency of kacher and divide by 60(60th-Subharmonics).

For pwm generator -Assume 1.68Mhz/60 =28000hz/28khz .Although your pwm generator suppose to run at this 28khz as example.

To derive the capacitor value -using those online L/C calculator.
Recall i have mentioned previously we should not running at L/C resonance but at 1/2 of L/C resonance so 28khz/2=14khz.

The series L/C resonance of 25 turns bifilar(124.5uH for my case)

Apply 14khz and 124.5uH to derive the capacitor which will be 1.03uf.This is the capacitor to use at 3 turns winding. 0.47uf x 2 + 0.1uf  hv capacitor in parallel as example.

Remember don't trust written value on capacitor use L/C meter or better still by adding or removing capacitor to use with signal generator with scope for optimal series L/C resonance at 14khz.
http://www.pronine.ca/lcf.htm

[d3x0r]

Now you [strike]professional[/strike] guys tell me, How to properly tune my Primary to secondary on my Kacher. I am in circle and do not know how to get out of it.  I use simple Brovin oscilator.

Now I have my resonant frequency of my secondary @1.294MHz  and some closests good resonant harmonic of my primary  @1.415MHz

changing the resistance from power to base; the amount of pullup can influence the frequency slightly.
The only way to raise the frequency is remove turns from the secondary (long coil) or add turns to the primary. (wider turns I think also on the primary, but keep same turns... (fewer turns cause you're uncoiling to make wider isn't going to help )   )... increased primary inductance, decreased secondary inductance...
To lower the frequency can add topload capacitance(?)


how did you find your primary resonance?  I recently discovered that... (my grenade is functionally about 266uH; my inductor has multiple taps at 266, 220, 180, some of which include turns on a third layer... I was measuring using 266, since that was the same inductance as my grenade; and had frequnces around 1200 to 900 depending on grounding... I then used just the top-Inductor (the coil at top of kacher) and the few turns is you nko like 10uH... and the frequency was resonant at 745Khz... almost 3/4 of what the frequency was from the cuffed inductor.


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I realize you asked before and I'm glad you asked again.


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So inductact A to B..
A same as B = highest frequency
A less than B = lower frequency
A lower still than B = lower frequency
A more than B = lower freqency...
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when balancing such small capacitances and inductances....

[d3x0r]

For some of us eg:myself,Hoppy,itsu the receiver coil is around 1.6xx Mhz

and - I know itsu used just a couple turns from a test lead wrapped around his; his Inductor is several more turns than that... so that does't really count
how did you and hoppy measure yours?  Using the Inductor?


I posted my results way back; but they've since been invalidated; kinda interesting how I'm never listed on 'available stats'.

[d3x0r]

This is probably like 'coral castle numbers' but I'm gong to muse a second...
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So The idea then is to find the inductance of the wire itself(?) of the grenade itself for sure?... it's got a lower inductance than it should have for the form it's in...
49m of wire... although still more than the wire would be straight.... ....

So ... I found this calculator http://chemandy.com/calculators/round-wire-inductance-calculator.htm   which allows calculating for a length of wire what the indutance is...


frequency doesn't matter at long lengths
10800cm  (108m) 263731.055905nH   (example, relavent for me) (1mm wire; thinner wire can matter; 0.2mm is 298uH oh that's the wrong value...)


http://www.eeweb.com/toolbox/wire-inductance (another calculator; same results, less other data)


2.777777777777778Mhz wavelength at 108Cm effective inductance...
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Probably more practical for now to work backwards by adding small(tiny) known capacitances in parallel and justing the relative changes in resonant frequency to find the capacitance of the coil itself.. since it has a lower inductance, it relatively has more capacitance in it...


and even then once it's caluclated, without a coil of exact inductance driving it, it will be a lower frequency than you calculated for the parasitic capacitance (native/natural.... the bit that's more than 0 than you can't have less than...)  and the measured inductance of the grenade itself

[NickZ]

  Mag:
  I don't understand where you're coming from.
  If you think that this false OU idea that you are all mentioning is correct, and that a device needs to produce more than it takes in. How does that work in a self runner then, which has no external man made additional input source?
 
   All of these devices are also inverters, they have to be, or they won't work.
The feed back path (which no one has properly shown working here, yet) is what allows the device to self run. Without which, it's not going to work as anything other than just an inverter.

  Where is there a device that produces a higher output than the input source?  Including all the devices that we've been looking at?  Energy has to come from somewhere. Without considering the available surrounding ambient as the additional source of power, there is no OU.

  You've mentioned that I'm being inconsiderate?  That I don't know how to build something. Maybe you misunderstand me. Or have not been following what I done the last several years.  But, I've never said how anyone should develop their device, including you. There is no other way to procede than by step by step. Unless you are like Tesla, and can just build something from what you've envisioned in your head. Even he spent his life doing various tests.
  If you think that OU exists, and/or is a prerequisite for a self runner, please proof your point.

  I am not a newbie to these experiments. I started by building the basic induction circuit as recommended by Akula about two years ago. Step by step, etz.
And have been part of the original Tk thread until Hoppy suggested that I start another thread. As they wanted to discuss Tk's motor generator, and I kept talking about non-moving solid state generators, like Tk's radiator crt.
Solid state generators, are my only interest. Along with needed Exciter/kacher circuits.
  I then restarted this thread which had been abandoned, after Hoppy and Itsu and other guy's tests were not providing for the wanted results.
Several years have past, since then. And my 1800 plus posts prove it.
  Sorry to bore anyone...