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The Tesla Project

Started by allcanadian, January 22, 2008, 05:56:53 PM

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allcanadian

Today let's concentrate not on what Teslas circuit does but the actions and properties of the components. One of erfinders recent quotes of Tesla was -----
QuoteI mean that you have to have in the circuit, inertia. You have to have a large self-inductance in order that you may accomplish two things: First, a comparatively low frequency, which will reduce the radiation of the electromagnetic waves to a comparatively small value, and second, a great resonant effect
Inertia  ;)
Consider the picture below, we have on the far left a balloon in air --- the black arrow in the balloon is a force applied to the balloon. Next frame (2) we see that should the balloon "move" two forces evolve (two forces of opposition) the red waves are pressure acting against the balloons motion, the blue waves a suction force acting against the balloons motion. This constant applied force producing motion will always be opposed. Next frame (3) we are no longer applying a force on the balloon as indicated by the black arrow that is missing. But in this motional system we have the properties of mass and inertia or momentum and as such the forces opposing the motion of the balloon now reverse as indicated. "Things in motion tend to stay in motion unless acted upon by an outside force", this should sound familiar  :) The momentum of the surrounding air now pushes the balloon in the direction of the initial applied force, we could see this as a resonant effect---- action/reaction. Next in frame (4) we see the possibility of what "could" happen if we understand the properties of this system. What would happen if we coupled the "reaction" of the surrounding media with an impulsive applied force(action) in the same direction?------ we can see all force arrows are acting in the same direction producing what could be considered a resonant or magnifying effect of force. But we should remember that force is not motion, force leads to motion ---- motion has momentum as motion implies something has moved from one place to another.
In the context of the balloon analogy we could say the circuit below could act in a similar way. If we see the circuit from a mechanical perspective we could say our "electric fluid" has force, an electrical pressure measured as voltage, it has motion as an electrical current thus has momentum, so we cannot ignore the inertial effects in our system. In this respect we could say L1 the large self-inductance can act as a large mass, as L2 would act similar but to a lesser extent. The capacitance "C" would act as a flexible rubber membrane to our electrical fluid and the circuit disrupter as a quick acting valve.
If we then apply these "mechanisms" to the circuit we can see that a flow or motion in L1 will tend to stay in motion as it has large inertial effects --- momentum. If the circuit disrupter should be opened and closed rapidly the applied force or electrical pressure would start L1 in motion, once in motion the circuit disrupter opens and this momentum then acts on L2 and C. But C was already under pressure from the source (+) so this pressure on C must be increased as the momentum of L1 is acting to increase this pressure through a suction force from L1--L2-- to C. This fluid in motion will pressurize C to a point that the momentum of L1 is spent then the flow must reverse as there is still a great pressure imbalance on C. At this point we can see the the system will oscillate back and forth, force leading to motion ----motion to momentum----momentum to force. A symphony of action and reaction orcastrated by the properties or qualities of the instruments, we should let them sound as nature intended as we cannot make them something they cannot be. If we apply the action and reactions of the balloon analogy above we can see the application of force in a system,  when electrical pressure is applied to this circuit, greatly influences the magnitude of oscillation as well as the maintenance of the oscillation. So as we can see there is more happening here than meets the eye and we should carefully consider the components we place in this circuit even more so the "properties" of these components.
Best of luck
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

Ren

Nice analogy AC! I had a little moment like this yesterday on my way home from work. My daughter was in the front seat and had hung her hand bag from the sun visor. It sunk in as we went around a long sweeping corner. The hand bag swung out and stayed off center till we straightened up. I know its simple and not totally related but it made me think of the qualities of motion and how they effect the objects around us.

I look at your circuit and see this. Electrical pressure flows through to the capacitor (non polarized in this instance?) when the switch is open. The abrupt closing of the switch offers a greater/quicker path of inductance by bypassing the other components. Energy surges forward and inertia begins. The opening of the switch leaves our pressure disconnected and its only path is to its right through a coil (of low self inductance?) which compresses(?) the surge back into the capacitor. In this embodiment  the capacitor would keep rising in voltage above the source every time the switch was opened. It is easy to visualise this in a pumping action related to water.

One last question.

If this was the ozone patent our secondary would be connected to L1 as this is our transformer and circuit of high self induction, yes? Does the secondary of this transformer resonate in union with its primary when the switch closes and as current flows through the primary? How is it effected upon switch opening, does it simply shut off due to a lack of flow through the primary? Or does the pumping action of the primary effect the secondary in another way?

Thanks for your insights.

S

AhuraMazda


Localjoe

@Allcanadian
After understanding the Discharge path as stated in the patent and by erfinder above

These words from the patent "so that at each break of the motor-circuit a current of high electromotive force will be developed for charging the condenser, which may therefore be small and inexpensive"


A second thought is this.. take your finger in a glass of water and swirl it in a circle , if you do this at an even pace you can see and feel the inertia the water builds.  If done erratically/not synchronously the same effect is not achieved.
That same logic holds true that when the switch from the motor is broken the spark that would be seen normally is sent through the working lc circuit. the Primary coil and its cap .  As stated before this is a series resonate circuit.  This leg of the circuit is shorted during the on cycle of the motor and discharged during the off or break in the cycle.  This cycle of events needs to happen in at a repeated and given interval for the desired result to be achieved in the secondary.  If the timing of the discharge is not in line with the off cycle of the motor so as to receive the current of high electromotive force the effect will not be present in the secondary or severely limited.   
Just some thoughts.
                                                                                                      Joe

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popolibero

Hi everyone,

If I may jump in... I started studying Tesla's patents a while ago and am currently going through the colorado spring notes. I've been working on Bedini solid state circuitry for over a year and am now trying to expand my understanding in applying Tesla's one wire system and started off with the ozone patent. I have a working circuit, although running with a mosfet as a switch, a high inductance discharging into the tank circuit, and cone shaped tesla coil as primary and secondary. I know you are using other components and I certainly don't want to disrupt the "class". I just wanted to add my humble point of view. The last schematic posted seems right to me. The tank circuit is like a bell (tank circuit) with its own resonant freq determined by the components. The high inductance is ringing this this bell at a lower frequency, but it can't be a random frequency. You can also immagine the tank circuit as a swing, it has its own rythm, so you (high inductance) have to push it at the right moment or it won't be efficient or it will stop.
When the switch is closed the supply charges the hi-inductance coil, when opened, its collapsing field discharges into the small cap through the primary of transformer. The switch then closes again to charge the coil. In the mean time the transf.primary and small cap do their ping pong game exchanging the stored energy back and forth, till the next bang from the hi-inductance coil.
hope this helps.

regards,
Mario