Car Running on Water to be Released May 4th at 10pm EST (USA)

[bourne]

I have no idea why I keep coming across comments all over the place from people claiming we cannot use water as an energy source because we will run out of it.

I like scaring these sorts of people even more by telling them; water is only 0.05% of the total mass of the planet, then tell them, in certain circumstances it can change into di-hydrogen monoxide. 

Great way to get kids to turn the tap off when brushing their teeth.



@vonwolf a by-product of FE would be desalination plants springing up everywhere.

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[vonwolf]

I like scaring these sorts of people even more by telling them; water is only 0.05% of the total mass of the planet, then tell them, in certain circumstances it can change into di-hydrogen monoxide. 

Great way to get kids to turn the tap off when brushing their teeth.



@vonwolf a by-product of FE would be desalination plants springing up everywhere.

    FE+FW=

   No body's trying to scare any one I'm just voicing a concern.For you water is free and thats great for many other its not and its getting harder and harder to get to it. Desalinating water is expansive and it will get worse as the demand goes up. Like I said here in Florida salt water intrusion is a very real problem, many places in the US and the world over have difficulties getting to usable water.
   It is just some thing to consider I hope I'm wrong,I probably am. The actual loss of water in the energy conversion in very very small I know this but it takes a long time to get back into our water table so we can use it again and that is a problem.

  Pete

[bourne]

I was kidding about scaring people, no harm intended on my part. I think it is easy to worry about local situations (here in the south of England it feels like we have had no rain for weeks and it is supposed to be 'April showers' time of year) but Globally H2O would have literally no effect. I have seen a lecture by a chemist (if I remember correctly) who was tasked to estimate how many terrawatts the planet would need in 2050 at the present rate of growth. He explains what this looks like in oil and solar etc. Then explains about the hydrogen bonds in water and how efficiently they store vast quantities of energy. His conclusion was If all our energy production was from hydrogen extracted from water, Globally we could satisfy the demand with 1/3 of an Olympic sized swimming pool every second.

Compare that with the amount of water a single coal fired power station uses to flush away the coal ash.

Then compare to oil consumed per day, 82 million barrels per day. 

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/ene_oil_con-energy-oil-consumption

I will see if I can find the lecture and post it here

[bourne]

I will see if I can find the lecture and post it here

Here is the guy, Daniel Nocera from MiT.  http://mitworld.mit.edu/video/728          Personalised Energy.

This is not the exact lecture I remember watching.

Watched about 20 minutes so far, it appears to be a longer, less formal classroom version of the lecture.

A must watch IMO, just to get a scope on the figures for global solutions. 

[ramset]

RM
Do you have a link [Direct] To the broadcast? Gonna get some Pop Corn and raisenettes before the Show starts!

Who Knows??

Thanks
Chet