The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched

[xjet]

@nutsNbolts,

I agree. Something is not right here. I threw out the question to xjet of why these investors don't believe him and are putting up money when he says he has %100 scientific proof that it doesn't work. If these guys don't believe him, why should we? It looks as though he has a different agenda.

If xjet wanted to prove to the world that all of these HHO systems are scams, which sounds as though some may be by their extraordinary claims, he would do it differently. He seems to have an absolute negative attitude which probably makes him bias.

You are right -- I *do* believe there is no merit to this H2/O2 rubbish that's being spouted by so many would-be amateur "scientists".

And that's why we have a challenge.

Those who say I'm wrong and they're right are being challenged to prove their claims.

There are always people who will never believe a scientific proof, no matter how many times an experiment or test is reproduced with exactly the same results or how many times the observations are explained by conventional science -- you only have to read many of the posts on this website to see that.

There are always those who believe they are right while the rest of the world is wrong, despite the evidence and the facts presented to them.

This is simply a characteristic of human psychology and explains things like cults and religions.  This "faith over fact" syndrome is strong enough that people are willing to die in the name of their faith - look at JonesTown and Heaven's Gate for two very clear examples of this.

So the only way to prove to all those who will simply never believe the science is to let those who claim to have the answer to demonstrate their claims in an entirely open and independent test that is open to scrutiny by anyone with an internet connection.

That's the way the challenge will work.  And since it was announced there has been a good deal of interest from TV production companies who I'm talking with now about making this into a TV show.  It may be that the scope of the challenge wold be widened somewhat if that were to happen.  Even if a major TV network gets behind this I'm sure there'll still be some who claim it's a scam however :-(

What will the "it works" crowd going to say if none of those who take up the challenge are able to prove, before a global audience in a totally open and objective environment, that they can't obtain the results they're claiming?

Would it convince *you* that this HHO stuff is bunkum?

[icanbeatbob]

@xjet,

If you have absolute truth that it does not work and done properly, yes I would be inclined to believe it. Did the investors see your test data and still don't believe you? It just seems odd. If you can't convince someone intelligent enough that makes enough to put up $1M, your proof may be less convincing for someone as average as myself.

I hope you do expose the scammers. They are out there and should be exposed to the public. I also agree with most of what you say. but don't believe science knows everything. I have to go by what is rational to me, like my friend who has been doing this a while. If, in fact, he comes back to me later and says he was wrong, I would believe him. As long as you are unbias and no one has to give money to get into the offer, then I would be very interested in the results.

Brad

[fuzzytomcat]

I've already done tests that conclusively prove that the science is correct and the claims being made by HHO scammers are groundless.

I intend to publish the detail of those tests on the http://interestingprojects.com website shortly but in effect, it showed (as the science predicts) that while the introduction of H2 and O2 (generated from electrolysis) into the intake of an ICE will result in more work being done for a given amount of gasoline consumed, as soon as you ask the ICE to provide the energy needed to perform that electrolysis, the overall system efficiency is *reduced* and indeed becomes negative when compared to an unmodified ICE.

Three tests were conducted three times each, the results averaged and the conclusion was very clear, well outside the margin of error.

Now when I publish these tests, I'm sure that the HHO scammers will simply say "the tests were flawed", "he did it wrong", "it was a deliberate attempt to discredit the technology", etc, etc.

Sir,

I am very interested in the tests that you have created on the (HHO) Oxyhydrogen Devices, is there a loose ETA when the information would be available ?  I assume the glass "Mason" jam jar is one of the manufactures tested because of the far reaching unbelievable results claimed, can you at least say what manufactures were used or known (HHO) Oxyhydrogen generator types were tested ?

Thank you,
Fuzzy

[xjet]

I am very interested in the tests that you have created on the (HHO) Oxyhydrogen Devices, is there a loose ETA when the information would be available ?  I assume the glass "Mason" jam jar is one of the manufactures tested because of the far reaching unbelievable results claimed, can you at least say what manufactures were used or known (HHO) Oxyhydrogen generator types were tested ?

The data should be online sometime early next week.

[Yucca]

I'm pleased Stefan had the sense to move this thread to the scam section.

xjet,
Why do you feel the need to disprove hho injection? if you think electrolysis and hho injection has no merit then just don't do it? You're making a fool of yourself!

Furthermore, if you think all free energy is a scam then why don't you just goto another forum on the web thats a little more mainstream so that it doesn't upset your obviously delicate constitution.