This is not OU principle by itself but it's very important to thoroughly understand.
As you know, series LC is like short circuit at resonant frequency,
parallel LC just the opposite.
This is a very good video
Resonance and Q Factor in True Parallel RLC Circuits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVOibkXeZs8
As you can see 0.02A of input current is used to produce 0.7A of reactive current.
Question is if this significant current gain can be achieved at higher currents without too big losses, for example to have input current of 1 amp and reactive current of 30-40 amp.
Other formulas for Q are Q=RsqrtC/L and Q=wRC. According to these formulas if we
decrease R or C, or increase L, gain decreases. Obviously goal is to decrease R to have
as little copper losses as possible but also to increase current gain as much as possible.
You see the obvious conflict there.
We might increase C more than we decrease R, and decrease L so we get high Q and
minimise copper losses, but keep in mind copper losses are current SQUARED x resistance, so i guess compromise needs to be found.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_factor#RLC_circuits
EDIT:
I suppose the above formulas are for ideal RLC where all three components are in
parallel, while in real RLC where R is in series with the inductance series RLC formula
is valid.
"In a parallel LC circuit where the main loss is the resistance of the inductor, R, in series
with the inductance, L, Q is as in the series circuit. This is a common circumstance for
resonators, where limiting the resistance of the inductor to improve Q and narrow the
bandwidth is the desired result."
Quote from: nix85 on June 01, 2021, 08:43:14 AM
This is not OU principle by itself but it's very important to thoroughly understand.
Since OU -
overunity is a nonsense than there is no OU principles
I suggest to use term FE ( free energy) - that is always completely correct
as truth is that you can have money and value and energy for free just because you are special to someone or something.
But you will never, and never ever have OU as you didn't have OU in the first place.
___________________________________
Quote from: nix85 on June 01, 2021, 08:43:14 AM
As you know, series LC is like short circuit at resonant frequency,
parallel LC just the opposite.
Think about it as:
- in series resonance only 1 frequency is allowed to pass through the door. All other frequencies are stopped
and that only open door is handling all current , (all traffic) flow.
In reality it is not one frequency but -1 set of frequencies close enough to resonance - called bandwidth of the filter .( series filter) series-resonance (https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/accircuits/series-resonance.html#:~:text=Series%20resonance%20circuits%20are%20useful%20for%20constructing%20highly,a%20sharp%20resonant%20peak%20in%20its%20amplitude%20characteristics.)
- in parallel resonance All of the doors are open all frequencies are allowed to pass apart the only one - the frequency of
the parallel resonance that is not allowed to pass and every door for this frequency is closed.
Quote from: nix85 on June 01, 2021, 08:43:14 AM
As you can see 0.02A of input current is used to produce 0.7A of reactive current.
No my friend:
-Current in series elements "produces" losses to Power supply.
-but in parallel branches of that circuit Current can be larger ,
....so what?
At the end everything is going to affect the source of energy.- the battery .( to be exact the battery that is powering generator)
that is connected in series with the circuit.
so it is not current but frequency of resonance that matters.
Current is dependent of frequency and not reverse.
Frequency is the boss here. Resonance and Q Factor in True Parallel RLC Circuits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVOibkXeZs8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVOibkXeZs8)
Local parallel branches of the circuit, can behave locally as a "big guys,"
but
you can't ever have connection of single power supply in parallel with the load or circuit. .
If you find such connection it will be only an illusion true just from your observation point.
https://www.cui.com/blog/power-supplies-in-series-or-parallel-for-increased-power (https://www.cui.com/blog/power-supplies-in-series-or-parallel-for-increased-power)
if you think different feel free to challenge me. :)
Wesley
Quote from: stivep on June 04, 2021, 11:06:40 AM
Since OU - overunity is a nonsense than there is no OU principles
I suggest to use term FE ( free energy) - that is always completely correct
as truth is that you can have money and value and energy for free just because you are special to someone or something.
But you will never, and never ever have OU as you didn't have OU in the first place.
Overunity is a good term, after all it's just semantics and not worth the useless ramble.
Quote
___________________________________Think about it as:
- in series resonance only 1 frequency is allowed to pass through the door. All other frequencies are stopped
and that only open door is handling all current , (all traffic) flow.
In reality it is not one frequency but -1 set of frequencies close enough to resonance - called bandwidth of the filter .( series filter) series-resonance (https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/accircuits/series-resonance.html#:~:text=Series%20resonance%20circuits%20are%20useful%20for%20constructing%20highly,a%20sharp%20resonant%20peak%20in%20its%20amplitude%20characteristics.)
- in parallel resonance All of the doors are open all frequencies are allowed to pass apart the only one - the frequency of
the parallel resonance that is not allowed to pass and every door for this frequency is closed.
Hah! Why there always has to be one captain obvious around is a phenomena in itself.
I know perfectly well all kinds of band pass/stop filters and their behavior, of course it is not just one frequency they pass/block but if Q is high enough it can get very close to one.
I already wrote about band stop filters here
https://www.electro-tech-online.com/threads/resonant-frequency-of-a-coil-or-lc-tank.160447/
Quote
No my friend:
-Current in series elements "produces" losses to Power supply.
-but in parallel branches of that circuit Current can be larger ,
....so what?
At the end everything is going to affect the source of energy.- the battery .( to be exact the battery that is powering generator)
that is connected in series with the circuit.
No, my friend, effective results is indeed that small current drawn from the battery is
producing greater reactive current in the RLC tank, and again sky is blue OF COURSE that small current is supplying energy lost due to friction and radiation.
And of course that small current is drawn from the battery.
Quoteso it is not current but frequency of resonance that matters.
Current is dependent of frequency and not reverse.
Frequency is the boss here.[/sub]
Resonance and Q Factor in True Parallel RLC Circuits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVOibkXeZs8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVOibkXeZs8)
Local parallel branches of the circuit, can behave locally as a "big guys,"
but you can't ever have connection of single power supply in parallel with the load or circuit. .
If you find such connection it will be only an illusion true just from your observation point.
https://www.cui.com/blog/power-supplies-in-series-or-parallel-for-increased-power (https://www.cui.com/blog/power-supplies-in-series-or-parallel-for-increased-power)
if you think different feel free to challenge me. :)
Wesley
This last part is specially ridiculous. Let's first look at this nonsense
"it is not current but
frequency of resonance that matters"
Frequency is the boss here."
Current amplification is exactly what matters in resonant parallel RLC just like
voltage amplification is in series RLC, and this gain is proportional to Q
and Q is given by formulas i noted above.
PS' in series and parallel is totally off the topic, we are talking reactive power here
with implication that (among other effects), IF everything is tuned just right,
reactive power can do real work. No need to mention Don Smith or this
https://overunity.com/9521/magnacoaster-vorktex/msg551466/#msg551466
Or many other schemes along similar lines where reactive power is used to tap
into subtler energies.
In in the name of effective forum behavior, do not waste server space on repeating
stuff or saying stuff that is totally obvious and well assumed. :)
Quote from: nix85 on June 05, 2021, 04:53:49 PM
Overunity is a good term, after all it's just semantics and not worth the useless ramble.
Mandatory definition is - required by a law or rule of physics.
The word has a meaning even if it is your pet name.
But in physics general concept communicating the theory of a product is presented by use of words having precise meaning and application. Although product can be physically present
- the theory used to explain the product may be overturned , by use of just one word (e.g overunity.)
In your case there is no product of overunity as overunity is not accepted in any theory recognized by physics
nor is perpetual motion.
Overunity (https://www.thefreedictionary.com/Overunity#:~:text=Overunity%20synonyms%2C%20Overunity%20pronunciation%2C%20Overunity%20translation%2C%20English%20dictionary,system%20without%20a%20sustaining%20energy%20source.%20American%20Heritage%C2%AE) - as you see this link doesn't even want to make use of word overunity .
overunity-free-energy-and-perpetual-motion- (https://hackaday.com/2016/01/25/overunity-free-energy-and-perpetual-motion-the-strange-side-of-youtube/) - these guys are just scrutinizes possibly financed also by
far Eastern Europe regime. But they are often right on the money.
But if you post there your critical view challenging promoted "members" they will cut your comment into unreadable gibberish .
compatible to Stalin time era.___________________________________________________________Quote from: nix85 on June 05, 2021, 04:53:49 PM
This last part is specially ridiculous. Let's first look at this nonsense
"it is not current but frequency of resonance that matters"
Frequency is the boss here."
Current amplification is exactly what matters in resonant parallel RLC just like
voltage amplification is in series RLC, and this gain is proportional to Q
and Q is given by formulas i noted above.
No my friend there is no amplification at all in any form in resonant circuits RLC
Such amplification is an illusion of an uneducated experimenter but yes you can see its local value.
And voltage or current response is only secondary phenomena when frequency is tuned to resonance.
And if not than there is no such phenomena taking place.
In any resonance circuit LRC there is a rule :
resonate first and than radiate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbW-ZSR3Tx0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbW-ZSR3Tx0)
An antenna is a RLC resonant circuit but even in non-resonant antennas you must match that antenna impedance
by means of external resonant circuits that are tuned to desired impedance 50 Ohm (standard)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbW-ZSR3Tx0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbW-ZSR3Tx0)
https://youtu.be/A7LHDALBrV8?t=89 (https://youtu.be/A7LHDALBrV8?t=89)
Here is the evidence that
transmatch must resonate first !!!!look here:
https://www.elprocus.com/guide-on-resonant-rlc-circuits-working-and-application/ (https://www.elprocus.com/guide-on-resonant-rlc-circuits-working-and-application/)
QuoteThe q factor is reliant on the frequency it is most frequently quote for the resonant
frequency and the maximum energy stored in the capacitor and in the inductor
When frequency from generator is tuned to resonance of LRC circuit
or
the LRC circuit is tuned to the frequency of generator
the effect is always the same .
If tuning stops at frequency of resonance of LRC circuit than
current or voltage is at its maximum ( depends from the character of LRC circuit)
There is no amplification taking place there as you see only presence of local phenomena characteristic to the type of RLC circuit.
Look at the picture below- Example A and B:A: in A you see that impacting force is applied to wide area and damage to the hand is not present.
B: in B you see that impacting force is applied to small area and it penetrates the hand.
Example B1:B1: in B1 the circuit is in series resonance and XL - Xc =0 (or it balances.)
At the
resonance : X L – X C = 0 or X L = X C.
https://circuitglobe.com/what-is-series-resonance.html
so when you have 0 impedance than there is only small R(resistance) that is not important.
The signal in full power can now get out using that "door"
And yes Xc and Xl they have value - locally only but in resonance their value "cancels each other"
therefore there is no opposition and entire power of (the force) the signal in that particular frequency can pass.
(Minus small losses)
note: please look at B1 as if you were looking at screen of spectrum analyzer.However
power delivered to the LRC circuit will be always bigger than that coming out from the circuit.( filter)
when you have big current you have small voltage , but power is always the same
when you have small current you have big voltage , but power is always the same
So there is no amplification taking place at all .. It is just losses that makes output power to be smaller.
___________________________________________________________For any other reader:
If you think that your audio amplifier is amplifying anything it is just an illusion from standpoint of local observer.
In reality "amplification" is just use of power from your outlet to drive another stage of the transistor with bigger voltage and/or current.
If you recall magnetic amplifiers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_amplifier (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_amplifier)
They have been very strong amplifiers but no discrete elements were used at all.
- no tubes no transistors.
Did they amplify anything?
No they didn't.
They were just necessary to drive another set of transformers at bigger current and/or voltage .
But power used for the process was always bigger than power of amplified signal in Watts.
And yes you heard stronger sound.
_____________________________________________________
summary:Because our expectation is to gain in something that will give us FE
The easiest way is to couple to wealthy uncle.
So only coupling to energy that doesn't cost us money will give you FE.
and that is why nonsense of "overunity" should be eliminated as confusing these who don't yet understand as much as you are my friend
Wesley
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transistor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transistor)
Because the controlled (output) power can be higher than the controlling (input) power, a transistor can amplify a signal.
wmbr
related to: Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL (https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg558264/#msg558264) « Reply #3 on: June 06, 2021, 11:56:58 PM »
Dear nix85
Here is an example of coils only amplification.
I hope you'll start to understand my answer in post from above now .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUIYY1-Fp9o
Magnetic Amplifier
if you listen only to end of this video - click here (https://youtu.be/BUIYY1-Fp9o?t=421)
it explains why transistors were used to replace magnetic amplifiers .
_________________________________________
here is some more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_a5wrXNqgo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_a5wrXNqgo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB3HBoKPbOQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB3HBoKPbOQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBX1-POuJMw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBX1-POuJMw)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIAQvvfAE0M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIAQvvfAE0M)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wLCoQoFCjE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wLCoQoFCjE)
Wesley
Quote from: nix85 on June 05, 2021, 04:53:49 PM
// specially ridiculous. - Let's first look at this nonsense:
Quote"it is not current but frequency of resonance that matters"
Frequency is the boss here."
Tuning radio to the frequency of your favorite FM station is done by your hand, tuning circuits to resonance.
It is like opening the door for this FM station.
But
you are paying for:
- losses of energy used to convert EM energy into sound.
- for food giving energy to your hand that is turning the knob.
Benefiting emotionally while listening to the music is a pleasure of a loser
happy to have temporary pleasure he paid for.
No physical net gain makes you lesser of a money loser .___________________________________Challenging me you are showing the entire nonsense of loosed battle .
No physical net gain makes you lesser of a loser in the battle.
Emotion is the biggest reason of waste of your time and money.
-you are likely just a fool paying for the restaurant bill with your girlfriend and all her other pleasures.
-Your entire life is just an emotion making you to lose big time.
-house, car, boat, is not your gain it is just an excuse of you as a loser showing an effect of that, what was left after all losses.
Yes you are loser but be happy - you are not alone :)
o yea..
Wesley
Quote from: stivep on June 06, 2021, 05:56:58 PM
Mandatory definition
is - required by a law or rule of physics.
The word has a meaning even if it is your pet name....
<insert more nonsense>
The sweetest battle is when the "enemy" defeats himself.
This pile of shit is hardly worth replying to but i'll address the main "points",
if they only could be called that.
Again, overunity is a good term, better than free energy cause FE includes solar,
wind etc while OU implies (non radioactive) device "in a box" that requires no input
energy of any kind except that which it extracts within the bounds of it's own box
except the small starting energy usually provided from an external battery. So such
systems are literally over-unity, unity being the energy initially provided and energy
it consumes to continue operation, and over being the excess energy to supply loads.
He continues with..
QuoteNo my friend there is no amplification at all in any form in resonant circuits RLC
Such amplification is an illusion of an uneducated experimenter but yes you can see its local value
No my friend, such amplification is NOT an illusion, it is an actual increase in voltage/current and anyone who can tell apple from a pear would not claim otherwise. There is real measurable increase of voltage/current.
QuoteAnd voltage or current response is only secondary phenomena when frequency is tuned to resonance. And if not than there is no such phenomena taking place.
Imagine, there has to be resonance first in RESONANT RLC circuit for amplification
effect to occur. GENIUS!
QuoteIn any resonance circuit LRC there is a rule :
resonate first and than radiate.
RLC circuits are not meant to radiate, they are used as variable tuned circuits,
filters, oscillators, voltage multipliers and pulse discharge circuits. We are not
talking about antennas.
So he continues the unrelated rant about nonresonant antennas and how
"you must match that antenna impedance". IMAGINE! Pure genius.
Funny how you forgot to add you do NOT have to match the impedance
of the transmission line (balanced or non balanced) and the antenna if you
know that impedance of the antenna is repeated every half wavelength
down from the antenna, it does not matter what the characteristic impedance
of the transmission line is and that you have to take into account velocity factor
of the feedline..
Quote...There is no amplification taking place there as you see only presence of local phenomena characteristic to the type of RLC circuit.
This is not just "local phenomena" cause this amplification
is tapped by other parts of the circuit and used in very real way.
Then he goes on a rant with nonsensical parallel about force distribution
and some silly LC tank basics like Xc and Xl cancel at resonance. He of course
does not provide the formulas
XL= 2πfL
XC= -1/2πfC
Z = sqrt(R² + (Xc - Xl)²)
F = 1/6.28(LC)
Then comes the main nonsense
QuoteHowever power delivered to the LRC circuit will be always bigger than that coming out from the circuit.( filter)
when you have big current you have small voltage , but power is always the same
when you have small current you have big voltage , but power is always the same
So there is no amplification taking place at all .. It is just losses that makes output power to be smaller
HA! Reactive power is exactly Q times bigger than input power, NOT the same!
That is the whole point You do not grasp the very basic of (R)LC tanks.
Then he goes on a rant how amplifier's amplifying is an illusion.
QuoteIn reality "amplification" is just use of power from your outlet to drive another stage of the transistor with bigger voltage and/or current.
My my, this is a circus!
Then he continues the rant about magnetic amplifiers..
Then he goes back to rant about term overunity..
Quote
..So only coupling to energy that doesn't cost us money will give you FE.
and that is why nonsense of "overunity" should be eliminated as confusing these who don't yet understand as much as you are my friend
Wesley
Then some more nonsense about saturation amplifier..
Then he continues with
QuoteTuning radio to the frequency of your favorite FM station is done by your hand, tuning circuits to resonance.
It is like opening the door for this FM station.
More sky is blue lines. Of course no mention of Varactor Diode or Heterodyne principle.
Quote
But you are paying for:
- losses of energy used to convert EM energy into sound.
- for food giving energy to your hand that is turning the knob.
Benefiting emotionally while listening to the music is a pleasure of a loser
happy to have temporary pleasure he paid for.
No physical net gain makes you lesser of a money loser .
It seems he is trying to prove what i said in very beginning of this thread.
To quote myself "This is not OU principle by itself" (altho it can be in
certain cases, as already said and linked to).
And his final fiasco..
Quote
Challenging me you are showing the entire nonsense of loosed battle .
No physical net gain makes you lesser of a loser in the battle.
Emotion is the biggest reason of waste of your time and money.
-you are likely just a fool paying for the restaurant bill with your girlfriend and all her other pleasures.
-Your entire life is just an emotion making you to lose big time.
-house, car, boat, is not your gain it is just an excuse of you as a loser showing an effect of that, what was left after all losses.
Yes you are loser but be happy - you are not alone :)
o yea..
Wesley
OMG i feel sorry for this guy, these are hard to find these days, this level of ignorance,
this level of self humiliating and shameless halfwit...just beyond anything seen on this forum.
Quote from: nix85 on June 07, 2021, 08:57:29 PM
Again, overunity is a good term, // So such systems are literally over-unity, // being
the energy initially provided and energy it consumes to continue operation, and over being the excess energy to supply loads.
Answer:But it doesn't exist.Godzilla doesn't exist too.
For physics God doesn't exist too
And for Darwin - you are just an animal - the mammal. :)
Quote from: nix85 on June 07, 2021, 08:57:29 PM
He of course does not provide the formulas
Answer:I did but you didn't look in the link. :)
So now you nix85 - please provide me:1. formula for overunity.
2. just any scientific publication if you find just one I will be surprised.
_________________________________________________________________
Quote from: nix85 on June 07, 2021, 08:57:29 PM
overunity is a good term,//OU implies (non radioactive) device "in a box" that requires no input
energy of any kind.
Answer:Where did you get this formulation from?
Is it only the product of your imagination?
-no credible link.. right?
_________________________________________________________________
Quote from: nix85 on June 07, 2021, 08:57:29 PM
RLC circuits are not meant to radiate,//
//some silly LC tank basics
Answer:
Each antenna element radiating modes are modeled by a combination of
RLC circuits while the
tank circuits represent the inter-mode couplings.
The mutual coupling between the corresponding radiating mode of antenna elements is represented by M 1, M 2, and M 3.
here is a link : Each%20antenna (https://www.mdpi.com/2079-9292/9/10/1582/htm#:~:text=Each%20antenna%20element%20radiating%20modes%20are%20modeled%20by,3.%20The%20circuit%20model%20is%20designed%20in%20ADS.)
_________________________________________________________________
Quote from: nix85 on June 07, 2021, 08:57:29 PM
This is not just "local phenomena" cause this amplification
is tapped by other parts of the circuit and used in very real way.
Answer :
examples of local phenomena;
local oscillator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_oscillator (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_oscillator)
local resonance https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/chemistry/localized-surface-plasmon-resonance (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/chemistry/localized-surface-plasmon-resonance)
local current flow https://www.answerout.com/decrement-of-local-current-flow/ (https://www.answerout.com/decrement-of-local-current-flow/)
local amplification https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2012JB009208 (https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2012JB009208)
Conclusion:In the system all of
local phenomena manifest their presence only if recognized, measured, locally.
Quote
Amplifiers are the circuits that are designed to improve the intensity of the signals.
Amplifier energy consumption is bigger than energy at output of the amplifier.
amplifier-its-working-circuit (https://www.watelectronics.com/amplifier-its-working-circuit-project-and-its-applications/#:~:text=%20Applications%20of%20Transistor%20as%20an%20Amplifier%20,these%20types%20of%20amplifiers%20are%20utilized.%20More%20)
Whichever kind of
amplifier you
use, you never get out
more energy than you put in.
https://www.explainthatstuff.com/amplifiers.html (https://www.explainthatstuff.com/amplifiers.html)
Dear
nix85 Can you understand English language from above?
Wesley
I apologize for the offtopic.
In Russia, many people believe that the president and the government, and especially the central bank, are controlled from abroad. What would you say to these people?
I'll add that I don't think so ... :)
Quote from: kolbacict on June 08, 2021, 05:26:55 AM
I apologize for the offtopic.
In Russia, many people believe that the president and the government, and especially the central bank, are controlled from abroad. What would you say to these people?
I'll add that I don't think so ... :)
Better than to feel from abroad that the central bank,the government and the president is believed by the RU ,R U or R W : believing !
Off topic end !
Quote from: kolbacict on June 08, 2021, 05:26:55 AM
I apologize for the offtopic.
In Russia, many people believe that the president and the government, and especially the central bank, are controlled from abroad. What would you say to these people?
I'll add that I don't think so ... :)
Those conspiracies about govs and politicians are everywhere.Putin may be working for the vatican and rothschilds. Emblem on the russian flag and the family crest of the rothschilds are the same.
Quote from: stivep on June 07, 2021, 11:00:11 PM
But it doesn't exist.
Godzilla doesn't exist too.
For physics God doesn't exist too
And for Darwin - you are just an animal - the mammal. :)
Again, OU is a good term, useless ramble.
QuoteI did but you didn't look in the link. :)
You think people wanna open every link you post, think again
Quote
So now you nix85 - please provide me:
1. formula for overunity.
2. just any scientific publication if you find just one I will be surprised.
_________________________________________________________________
OK, i'll give you a hint, formula for energy content of a wave is amplitude squared,
let's see if you're intelligent enough to understand.
Quote
Where did you get this formulation from?
Is it only the product of your imagination?
-no credible link.. right?
_________________________________________________________________
This is off topic cause this thread is not about overunity but i gave you a hint above.
Quote
Answer:
Each antenna element radiating modes are modeled by a combination of RLC circuits while the
tank circuits represent the inter-mode couplings.
The mutual coupling between the corresponding radiating mode of antenna elements is represented by M 1, M 2, and M 3.
The circuit model is designed in ADS.
here is a link : Each%20antenna (https://www.mdpi.com/2079-9292/9/10/1582/htm#:~:text=Each%20antenna%20element%20radiating%20modes%20are%20modeled%20by,3.%20The%20circuit%20model%20is%20designed%20in%20ADS.)
_________________________________________________________________
:D we are NOT talking about antennas here, ofc RLC circuit can be coupled
to an antenna as it was used since days of spark gap transmitters.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spark-gap_transmitter#Inductive_coupling
Quote
Answer :
examples of local phenomena;
local oscillator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_oscillator (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_oscillator)
local resonance https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/chemistry/localized-surface-plasmon-resonance (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/chemistry/localized-surface-plasmon-resonance)
local current flow https://www.answerout.com/decrement-of-local-current-flow/ (https://www.answerout.com/decrement-of-local-current-flow/)
local amplification https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2012JB009208 (https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2012JB009208)
Conclusion:
In the system all of local phenomena manifest their presence only if recognized, measured, locally.
What in the world are you trying to prove by saying it's "local phenomena", so
amplification is not real? HAH! Gain has nothing to do with it being local
or radiated, nothing.
Also there is no real just-local-oscillator, unless toroidal or enclosed in a metal box inductors radiate EM waves, capacitors also radiate, even power lines radiate, everything radiates unless shielded.
https://www.powersystemsdesign.com/articles/the-behavior-of-electromagnetic-radiation-of-power-inductors-in-power-management/22/11575
https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/20126/does-a-charging-capacitor-emit-an-electromagnetic-wave#:~:text=Charging%20and%20discharging%20a%20capacitor,capacitors%20get%20charged%20and%20discharged.
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Whichever kind of amplifier you use, you never get out more energy than you put in.
https://www.explainthatstuff.com/amplifiers.html (https://www.explainthatstuff.com/amplifiers.html)
:D And who said you get more energy from an amp than you put in?
You are imagining things. No one even implied that.
Clearly you are mixing reactive power amplification with energy amplification.
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Dear nix85 Can you understand English language from above?
Wesley
Dear Wesley, question is can YOU?
Wesley,I am not nix85,but related #8 1 in and more than 1 out (conditionized !) https://phys.org/news/2012-03-efficiency.html (https://phys.org/news/2012-03-efficiency.html)
" .... the key to achieving a power (https://phys.org/tags/power/) conversion efficiency (https://phys.org/tags/efficiency/) above 100%, i.e., "unity efficiency," is to greatly decrease the applied voltage. ..."
In LED-experiment achieved !
By electric motors,generator,transformer ,electric circuits ? Does cold ambient (natural/synthetical) influence "voltage and equivalent " !?
Ohm/Mho experiment,super-conduction and -super-isolation ,vaccuo
Volt is the unit in hono(u)r Signori Volta,but there is also the expression Voltigieren (italienisch volta, französisch volte ,Bogenschlag', ,Bogensprung')
DC Volta length compared AC Volta length and Puls Volta length : length in a .time distance b. local distance
positive
negative
Sincere
OCWL
Quote from: nix85 on June 08, 2021, 08:16:55 AM
Again, OU is a good term, useless ramble.
//i'll give you a hint//
I didn't ask you for a hint but for any proof or example that OU ( overunity) exists.
Fake response: is a type of hoax or deliberate spread of misinformation with the intent to mislead in order to gain socially, emotionally, financially or politically
Fake is :made to look real or valuable in order to deceive people.
But you nix85 never managed to make your fake OU look real.
Faker vs lair: " she knew he was a liar when he started claiming that he was an astronaut"
"nix85 knew he was a liar when he started claiming that overunity exists."
Faker arguments:Questioned faker replaces logical answers with answers in area of believes when arguments can't to be supported.
Religion and propaganda uses the same mechanisms.
The attribution of a quality to a word, sending Faker to a position of a liar:Use of non-supported, nonsense repeatedly on purpose.
____________________________________________________________Quote from: nix85 on June 08, 2021, 08:16:55 AM
You think people wanna open every link you post, think again
Yes I do.
Attached links makes comment more convincing
(more understanding) to a reader who is expecting more convincing explanation.
____________________________________________________________ Quote from: nix85 on June 08, 2021, 08:16:55 AM
This is off topic cause this thread is not about overunity but i gave you a hint above.
Answer:Here is your statement in this thread :
Quote from: nix85 on June 08, 2021, 08:16:55 AM
OU is a good term, useless ramble.
//let's see if you're intelligent enough to understand.
Answer: No I don't.
-can I become enlightened by your knowledge without hints, lies and fakes.. ? just pure physics please?
____________________________________________________________
Quote from: nix85 on June 08, 2021, 08:16:55 AM
Clearly you are mixing reactive power amplification with energy amplification.
Answer:
I questioned your amplification in LCR circuit, and there is no amplification taking place at all.
10W AC at input of series resonant circuit becomes less than 10W at output of circuit in resonance.
10W AC at input of series resonant circuit becomes ~0W at output of circuit not in resonance.
So in this case there is no amplification taking place at all.
Voltage and Current will fluctuate but to see it you need to look locally at these local phenomena.
If you don't do it than all you'll see is that "door" is open or closed.
here is a link: Understanding the basics of reactive power (https://energyinnovationproject.com/understanding-the-basics-of-reactive-power/)
here is a quote:
Electrical power (P, in Watts) is composed of voltage (V, in Volts) and current (I, in Amps).
The formula is P= V × I.
A good analogy to describe the relationship between voltage and current is water flowing down a river-end of quote.Wesley
Electrical power (P, in Watts) is composed of voltage (V, in Volts) and current (I, in Amps).
The formula is P= V × I.
In german : Huestel,huestel ! ::)
DC is EE power P= V × I
AC is EE power P= V × I ? Hertz -function ? Only tension or current or both processing ?
Puls is EE power P= V × I ? by which duty cycle ? AM and FM modulation,PWM
electrical engineering history :
1 Daniel cell represents 1 Volt DC source
100 Daniel cells represents 100 V DC source
+ distribution losts = 110-115 Volt DC source
DC electricity = current and tension positive
AC distribution = positive DC = DC x 2 = 220/230 Volts by 50/60 Hertzian cycles
AC = positive tension phase + positive current phase
negative tension phase + negative current phase
mono-/poly-phase
1 V x A DC = ? V x A AC = each in mechanical Watt linear/curvativ active/reactive
1 V x A AC = ? V x A DC = each in mechanical Watt curvativ/linear reative/active
electrical power a. DC b.AC c. pulsed(current on/off) in mechanical power ? torque x linear/rotative rpm movement ?
EE set theory : EE algebra,geometry
Power is joules per second. Voltage = joule / coulomb. Current = coulomb / second.
Voltage x current = joules / coulomb x coulomb / second = joules / second :)
Quote from: lancaIV on June 08, 2021, 08:46:23 AM
Wesley,I am not nix85,but related #8 1 in and more than 1 out (conditionized !)
https://phys.org/news/2012-03-efficiency.html (https://phys.org/news/2012-03-efficiency.html)
OCWL
QuoteLED's efficiency exceeds 100%
That is possible the same way as COP>1 in refrigerators.
https://www.quora.com/How-does-the-cop-of-refrigerator-is-greater-than-1 (https://www.quora.com/How-does-the-cop-of-refrigerator-is-greater-than-1)
and that's is why looking at
local phenomena is important .
But that is not overunity.
Wesley
Quote from: stivep on June 08, 2021, 11:48:14 AM
That is possible the same way as COP>1 in refrigerators.
https://www.quora.com/How-does-the-cop-of-refrigerator-is-greater-than-1 (https://www.quora.com/How-does-the-cop-of-refrigerator-is-greater-than-1)
and that's is why looking at local phenomena is important .
But that is not overunity.
Wesley
reversible thermo-cryo dynamic cylce : dB(noise,sound,loud,oscillations,......) to electrical energy
overunity is not a common used scientifical expression because " mental weakness" from scientist side,to have and show
the OU-q.e.d. stage and by world-wide peers review and process application and confirmation
for science primates:
let the expression "over-unity efficiency " as evolutive step from https://phys.org/news/2012-03-efficiency.html (https://phys.org/news/2012-03-efficiency.html)
be "equivalent same" in physics target (theory)and physical(practizising) result as "overunity"
"But that is not" overunity ,
this discuss with the researchers, Parthiban Santhanam and coauthors from MIT, have published their study in a recent issue of Physical Review Letters.
Quote from: lancaIV on June 08, 2021, 11:52:24 AM
overunity is not a common used scientifical expression because " mental weakness" from scientist side,to have and show
Yes you right.
that is why I'm waiting for the response from nix85 curing my "mental weakness"
I'm waiting for him
to "have and show" ....
...........no... not his private parts...Dear nix85 show me OU you are talking about please...
Wesley
Do not overestimate Your real position,Wesley !
You are NOT academical scientist = WISSENSCHAFTLER,Your position and function is expressed and termed : as researcher=FORSCHER !
Or are You active member from a NATIONAL ACADEMY OF SCIENCE ?
Sincere
OCWL
Answer to lankaIV :
Throwing titles doesn't make person taller.
Position in human horde is affecting this animal influential status.
https://ludwig.guru/s/influential+status (https://ludwig.guru/s/influential+status)
For me : I'm nobody or nobody special.
And that approach gives me a chance to become a Person of Value to someone or something.
e.g - my wife
I don't have stress of being humiliated, as I don't have an agenda, pride
or selfsame characteristics as the expert among other other experts.
___________________________________________________________________
I have nothing to lose in value:
- my value is perceived as an evaluation of the merits of a product or service,
and its ability to meet needs and expectations, especially in comparison with its peers.
If I start at Zero of Value and come back to the Zero of Value than my losses are never
placing me lower than I was prior to it.
___________________________________________________________________
And that is what "Some Russians" are very upset about .
I'm outside of territory Russia.
I'm an American who is not former Russian and I learned their language in USA.
I'm not the person in extreme poverty .
I have more than one lab or house or place to stay and conduct experiments.
I'm still alive
___________________________________________________________________
I can't be humiliated arrested for comment, over twit, or "like" mark - under video for ~7 years in Russian
Guag - labor camp.
Recent and current debate of Russian government is to reincarnate Russian Labor Camps
but now in form of slavery.
GULAG 2.0? | Russia Wants To Resurrect Forced Labor Camps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8uw04k_qqw
Sharashka for Scientists:
-an informal name for secret research and development laboratories operating from 1930 to the 1950s
within the Soviet Gulag labor-camp system.
Scientists in prison:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharashka (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharashka)
And yet:
I'm very much the discomfort to some Russian entities as the FE researcher who now in 2021 speaks Russian better
than most of Russians from Russian Regions.
opinion expressed is entirely my own.
Wesley
Quote from: stivep on June 08, 2021, 10:53:59 AM
I didn't ask you for a hint but for any proof or example that OU ( overunity) exists.
What are you even doing here if you don't believe OU is possible?
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No I don't.
-can I become enlightened by your knowledge without hints, lies and fakes.. ?
just pure physics please?
Again, if you don't believe in OU, what are you doing here?
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Answer:
I questioned your amplification in LCR circuit, and there is no amplification taking place at all.
[/sub]10W AC at input of series resonant circuit becomes less than 10W at output of circuit in resonance.
10W AC at input of series resonant circuit becomes ~0W at output of circuit not in resonance.
So in this case there is no amplification taking place at all.
Ok, it's not power that is amplified, but voltage or current at expense of the other, except in special cases (as linked above) when you can get more energy than in. You of course think that is impossible.
In general reactive power can and usually is greater than real power consumption.
Reactive load temporary stores energy, does not waste it (unless PS cant take it back).
Power factor = true power / apparent power
Apparent power is RMS voltage x RMS current
Reactive power = sqrt(apparent²-real²)
For example transformer without a load can be plugged into the socket 24/7, we got a short circuit through the primary, yet it consumes almost no energy cause it is like 99% reactive power, current and voltage are almost 90° out of phase (resistance of the primary, eddy current and hysteresis losses are causing them to be less than 90° out of phase), but putting the load on the secondary makes primary feel as if the core suddenly got more lossy and this brings voltage and current more and more into phase, decreasing the reactive and increasing the active power.
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Voltage and Current will fluctuate but to see it you need to look locally at these [/sub]local phenomena.
If you don't do it than all you'll see is that "door" is open or closed.
here is a link: Understanding the basics of reactive power (https://energyinnovationproject.com/understanding-the-basics-of-reactive-power/)
here is a quote:
Electrical power (P, in Watts) is composed of voltage (V, in Volts) and current (I, in Amps).
The formula is P= V × I.
A good analogy to describe the relationship between voltage and current is water flowing down a river
-end of quote.
Wesley
We all know what reactive power is, we all know formula for power, we all know the water analogy. When you mention the formula, at least give it fully.
P = IV
P = I²R copper losses
P = V²/R
P=VI*PF apparent power (V and I are average, RMS)
As for the hint above i was referring to this.
If you add two same waves together amplitude of resulting wave is double.
Yet energy of a wave is amplitude SQUARED.
Don Smith also talked how superposition of waves breaks conservation of E.
There is also a russian paper on experimental verification of this very phenomena.
https://overunity.com/16698/free-energy-from-electromagnetic-wave-fields/
Quote from: nix85 on June 08, 2021, 01:56:30 PM
What are you even doing here if you don't believe OU is possible?
Again, if you don't believe in OU, what are you doing here?
1. In physics I don't accept any believes.- OU doesn't exist.
2. I'm FE Researcher just because FE is proven and exists.
3. Dear nix85 You didn't answer my question about OU.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
supporting material for point #2
Does free energy exist? We have solar energy wind energy, geothermal energy, hydrogen energy, Tidal energy, wave energy,
hydroelectric energy biomass energy, nuclear power energy.
All of those are free energy sources, but we are paying for the access to those sources of energy.
Ideally we should pay just once - for the device that converts mentioned energy sources to the form
of energy we can use but we end up paying and paying and paying every month. __________________________________________________________________________Quote from: nix85 on June 08, 2021, 01:56:30 PM
Ok, it's not power that is amplified, but voltage or current at expense of the other,
except in "special cases" (as linked above)
Yes in LCR circuit you can see higher voltage or higher current but never both at the same time.
If there are any "special case" please list it.
Voltage is defined as the energy difference between two points. Voltage (https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Voltage#:~:text=One%20single%20point%20does%20not%20have%20a%20voltage%2C,far%20away%2C%20but%20that%20isn%27t%20useful%20in%20electronics%29.)
__________________________________________________________________________Quote from: nix85 on June 08, 2021, 01:56:30 PM
when you can get more energy than in. You of course think that is impossible.
Yes it is impossible by law of physics, unless we are coupling to any or any other Free Energy Source.
example:
1.energy used to open valve of the pipe connected to the river is smaller than energy inside the pipe.
2.energy fluctuation in form of EM wave, inside of Schumann waveguide and than in the interface air/earth (in TM mode) is our Free Energy source.
__________________________________________________________________________Example of misconception:Many encyclopedias, dictionaries, and textbooks contain very clear statements about the nature of Electricity.
They say this:- Electricity is a type of energy.
- Electric current is a flow of energy.
Is it true? :
here is the link: COMMON ELECTRICITY MISCONCEPTION (http://amasci.com/miscon/energ1.html)Wesley
Quote from: stivep on June 08, 2021, 03:07:22 PM
1. In physics I don't accept any believes.- OU doesn't exist.
2. I'm FE Researcher just because FE is proven and exists.
3. Dear nix85 You didn't answer my question about OU.
..........
Example of misconception:
Many encyclopedias, dictionaries, and textbooks contain very clear statements about the nature of Electricity.
They say this:
- Electricity is a type of energy.
- Electric current is a flow of energy.
Is it true? :
here is the link: COMMON ELECTRICITY MISCONCEPTION (http://amasci.com/miscon/energ1.html)
Wesley
And who are you to question OU or ever worse define what electricity is?
For God's sake, you don't even believe it is possible, you don't even know how to cancel Lenz, let alone what energy is, what electricity is.
Your perspective is waaay too limited to give informed opinion on these subtle subjects.
I am not giving you concrete solutions, why would i, you are the last person to deserve it with that attitude. But look at this for example, watch the whole playlist, possibly best OU playlist on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsJwRznsf4o&list=PLS6CmWwu5VGmYsgX5-2kFtPsE-iIsXj_o&index=41
In this ocean of One Substance/One Energy there are many subtle forces you are not aware of, GREAT FORCES that don't exist for you cause you don't know how to resist/extract them. In fact, there is a whole other spectrum to which gravity,antigravity,thoughts,vitality and similar exotic phenomena belong to.
Little introduction into these subtler energies http://www.villesresearch.com/ether.html
To give you a little hint of the immense knowledge you are oblivious to, i'll copy paste my comment from youtube along similar lines....
First is imagined unbound vibration of infinite frequency and amplitude, there is still not time or space.
Then this infinite vibration is bound by secondary vibrations of finite frequency and amplitude along 6 AXIS OF TIME by 60° angle between nearby axis which creates a Cosmic Forcefield and framework of 3D space.
Each time axis is oscillating in place, time moves not, fact known for centuries in occult cosmology, but each universe out of each matter-antimatter universe pair, like a diode or a sprocket wheel captures just oscillations in one direction, thus matter and antimatter times diverge, something known even to mainstream physics.
Key point of how basis for 3D space is created by creating an imaginary angle between time axis "The angle of 60 degrees could only be created by an apparent frequency shift maintaining the harmonic vibrations of the rotating field."
https://galactic.no/rune/iarapdx1.html
http://www.resona.nl/Denaerde/denaerde.html
As for gravitational bubbles, best explanation is given in Falling Bodies Theory by Lloyd Zirbes. Simple and experimentally verified theory of gravity and all forces based on a simple fact that all bodies falling in the gravitational field extract energy from the parent gravitational field along the leading edge, that is, equator, which causes them to rotate, extracted energy thus spiraling around the falling body to a certain distance (just beyond our moon in case of Earth) and returning to the poles detecting the void of neutral energy along the axis of rotation. This same gravitational bubble that sucks everything toward the planet within the bubble REPELS everything including the parent gravitational field outside it due to shearing of magnetic lines of force due to C+ speeds in the most outer layers.
Regarding the two components of the Universal Fluid, electric (male) and magnetic (female) insulated by the G-lines of TIME. Electric lines travel at what is know as "speed of light" while magnetic lines travel 16,000 miles per second faster and have proportionally lesser density. It is the same neutral energy flowing in both of them, there is no polarity on fundamental level.
And finally, what has to be understood is that this magnetic pressure we feel as gravity has superimposed over it it's polar counterpart oscillating at 1/3 higher frequency. This great force returning to space would break the whole planet apart if it's matter was not strictly kept in certain band of nuclear speed. If nucleus is accelerated beyond certain level it will become transparent to gravity and will start to resist it's polar opposite. This can be achieved by mental means as in thousands of cases of documented human levitation or by treatment by neutral ray which is the same energy trapped in all secondary forces with only difference being that that in, for example, electricity is orders of magnitude faster than that in matter. When this force is liberated by disruptive discharges or scalar interferometry all kinds of unusual phenomena can be produced like changing the weight or temperature of an object permanently, complete destruction without any remnants etc.
Also, speed of light, density of matter and rate of time flow all increase x49 for each plane (or octave) above.
Estimated energy per cubic centimeter of space.
https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/dlattach/attach/181834/image// (https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/dlattach/attach/181834/image//)
You provoke "interest" ;) Nice number,conditioning ?
No,here not the comparative answer http://u2.lege.net/John_Keely/keelynet.com/bedmot/bedbear.htm (http://u2.lege.net/John_Keely/keelynet.com/bedmot/bedbear.htm)
http://www.calresco.org/ (http://www.calresco.org/)
"Chaos often breeds life, when order breeds habit."
Henry Adams (1838-1918)
but here :
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1875389212025151 (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1875389212025151) tuldigung :-[ , Sh.. ortening ::) can(n) happen
1. Introduction
In 1911 Planck introduced his "second equation"[1] E = hν/ (ehν/kT – 1) + ½ hν (1)
This included an additional term, hν/2.
( Das Planksche Wirkungsquantum
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plancksches_Wirkungsquantum (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plancksches_Wirkungsquantum) )
When T becomes zero the exponential term becomes infinite and the first term becomes zero, but there is still a residual energy remaining in the form of the second term, which is Planck's constant times frequency.
Depending upon the value of ν, this energy could be quite high. This has been calculatwed[2] to be as high as 10 v110 J/cc.
In 1916 Walther Nernst [3] suggested that there were vast amounts of zero point energy in the universe.
In 1928 P. Dirac [4]stated that space was filled with a large number of negative spaces, and the holes in these spaces were positive electrons.
In 1947 W. E. Lamb discovered changes in the fine structure of the hydrogen atom that became known as the Lamb Shift. [5]
These changes were later shown to be due to the zero point energy (ZPE) [6].
In 1947 Hendrik Casimir [7] proposed that two closely spaced neutral conducting metal plates would exclude the wavelengths of the ZPE longer than the spacing of the plates. This would produce a weaker pressure between the plates and the stronger external pressure would produce a force on the plates.
In 1951 Dirac [8] proposed an ether of particles in an article in Nature. He stated: "With the new theory of electrodynamics we are rather forced to have an aether." ........
Hmm, https://www.google.com/search?q=lorentz+holes&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&oq=lorentz+holes&aqs=chrome..69i57.5582j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=lorentz+holes&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&oq=lorentz+holes&aqs=chrome..69i57.5582j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)
and the "white holes" ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_hole (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_hole)
black/white holes spin
Conditionized : https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boltzmann-Konstante (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boltzmann-Konstante)
(ultra)black and (ultra)white by physics and between ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle_decay (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle_decay)
Electron and Positron
Proton and Anti-Proton
as "long life" particles
other ranking related MeV
by "free particles hunting"
Tnx for the reply Lanca but please shorten those links cause you see what it does to the thread readability.
https://www.shorturl.at/
If anyone has any doubt in presence of etheric energies around us and how they can be influenced to cause among other things rain, anywhere, anywhen, in immense amounts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwhu2G2p2sM
#27: 1947 Hendrik Casimir in angstrom-level what Otto v.Guericke did with two half-spheres ( Blaise Pascal)
1951 "ether of particles" also known as 'sea' : Dirac sea
I been looking into balanced and unbalanced lines again. OMG how the massacred this subject, there is only confusion and ignorance left. Only this guy explains it right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-DKuye6ODg
Some basics everyone here knows, coax is unbalanced, inner and outer conductor have different geometry and impedances, unlike balanced two identical pair lines.
I see most people out there think "ground wire" carries no signal, even NO CURRENT (HAH!), just like most of them think "ground/neutral wire" in their homes has no voltage on it.
"Ground wire" carries EXACTLY THE SAME CURRENT, EXACTLY THE SAME SIGNAL.
Ground means just common reference voltage point in the circuit.
There is no difference between signal, it's the same signal going through both conductors. Ground is purely arbitrary and could be switched around, just like "live and neutral" in powerlines.
I am not talking about differential current here for audio where 3 wires are used, two of which carry signal 180° out of phase.
To quote from wiki
"Most explanations of balanced lines assume symmetric (antiphase) signals but this is an unfortunate confusion—signal symmetry and balanced lines are quite independent of each other. Essential in a balanced line is matched impedances in the driver, line and receiver. These conditions ensure that external noise affects each leg of the differential line equally and thus appears as a common mode signal that is removed by the receiver. There are balanced drive circuits that have excellent common-mode impedance matching between "legs" but do not provide symmetric signals.[8][9] Symmetric differential signals exist to prevent interference to other circuits - the electromagnetic fields are canceled out by the equal and opposite currents. But they are not necessary for interference rejection from other circuits."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balanced_line#Balanced_and_differential
And this.
"Provided that the impedances of two conductors in a circuit are equal (it is balanced), external electromagnetic interference tends to affect both conductors identically. Since the receiving circuit only detects the difference between the wires, the technique resists electromagnetic noise compared to one conductor with an un-balanced reference (low-Ω connection to ground).
Contrary to popular belief, differential signaling does not affect noise cancellation. Balanced lines with differential receivers will reject noise regardless of whether the signal is differential or single-ended, but since balanced line noise rejection requires a differential receiver anyway, differential signaling is often used on balanced lines. This improves SNR, reduces EMI, and makes the signal more immune to ground currents or differences.[1]
The technique works for both analog signaling, as in balanced audio, and in digital signaling, as in RS-422, RS-485, Ethernet over twisted pair, PCI Express, DisplayPort, HDMI and USB."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_signaling#Advantages
Quote from: nix85 on June 08, 2021, 03:43:12 PM
And who are you to question OU or ever worse define what electricity is?
Answer:Here is who I'm:
https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg558293/#msg558293 (https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg558293/#msg558293)
Position in human horde is affecting you as an animal and your influential status.
https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg558293/#msg558293 (https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg558293/#msg558293)
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Quote from: nix85 on June 08, 2021, 03:43:12 PM
For God's sake, you don't even believe it is possible,
Answer:For physics
God doesn't exist . {In more elegant form I'll say: - Physics doesn't recognize God.)
And for Darwin -
you are just an animal - a the mammal to be exact.
Go to church with your believes...
or to one of my favorite synagogues - great entertainment , you'll not get bored there.
Yes it's 4-6hours event,- happiness, smile, casual conversation, new social connections, some business talk, ..
I had some science talk with another scientist. --- all of that is tolerated ..well... sort of... :) if done..
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Quote from: nix85 on June 08, 2021, 03:43:12 PM
OU doesn't exist with that attitude.
Answer:There is and never was - an attitude making OU - overunity to be lesser of a nonsense.
In physics I don't accept any believes.- OU doesn't exist.
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Quote from: nix85 on June 08, 2021, 03:43:12 PM
Your perspective is waaay too limited to give informed opinion on these subtle subjects.
"subtle" : everything that is so delicate or precise as to be difficult to analyze or describe.
Answer: Physics doesn't recognize words "delicate, subtle , limited, precise or difficult"
Physicist analyzes phenomena and publishes results in form of an opinion on these subjects.
If other physicists can replicate the published results than we:
- create new model
- correct existing model.
- support and further improve the quality of a model.
I'm in physics for more than 30 years now.
Wesley
Quote from: stivep on June 09, 2021, 08:33:57 AM
Answer:
I'm in physics for more than 30 years now.
Wesley
Bunch of pulp again. There is God, our most inner Self beyond Mind.
There is subtle in physics, most subtle Primary Light cascades down into ever slower and cruder forms of expression all the way down to "matter" which is but trapped light.
Belief is good as long as it is based on open minded extensive research combined with intuition. OU has long been out of realm of belief for anyone who did enough research into it.
I never used term difficult as there is nothing difficult in nature except for the one who makes it so for himself, usually due to ignorance.
Mainstream physics believes in many particles they have no way of detecting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_particles#Hypothetical_particles
For Adepts, there is no belief, they see the insides of subtatomic particle from all sides simultaneously just like you see macroscopic objects. Nature keeps no secrets from the Master. Others need instruments that can never reach the same perfection of perception. By this inner sight, occultist knew the structure of reality long before physics was even a thing.
You proclaimed yourself a physicist for 30 years, isn't it ironic that you dare to crown yourself with such title, you don't even understand the 4th law of motion.
You don't even understand that centrifugal force focused on one side of rotation can lift whole device into air + massive amounts of weight, like so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHPna2WF_g0
What kind of physicist are you if you don't know even this most basic of natural principles?
Principle of the levitating device above.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe_RDTFVrkc
Quote from: nix85 on June 09, 2021, 09:23:49 AM
...
1.
You have problem with understanding English language: Who is helping you with writing?
Example1:QuoteWesley says: For physics God doesn't exist . {In more elegant form I'll say: - Physics doesn't recognize God.)
a - Please read the first two words: "
For physics"
b - construct mental picture of a sense of the sentence.
Conclusion: It is the physics that doesn't recognize existence of any spiritual models that are based on believes.
Your personal position to this particular subject in question is never mentioned in my comment.
___________________________________________
Example2:QuoteWesley says: And for Darwin - you are just an animal - a mammal to be exact
a. - Please read the first three words: "
And for Darwin"
b - construct mental picture of a sense of the sentence.
Conclusion:
It is the Darwin evolutionist, that doesn't recognize you as a human - in any other form but only:
- as an animal that belongs to group of animals known as mammals.
Action:
You may disagree but than you will not graduate, unless you say that :
- according to Darwin you are an animal___________________________________________________
Quote from: nix85 on June 09, 2021, 09:23:49 AM
Belief is good
physics is not based on beliefs but on models. If model doesn't works for us we throw it away as we did with Ether/eather.
We don't have believes in physics - we have predictions
A prediction is: a statement that we make about the future.
___________________________________________________
Quote from: nix85 on June 09, 2021, 09:23:49 AM
I never used term difficult as there is nothing difficult in nature except for the one who makes it so for himself, usually due to ignorance.
You nix85 used the wording:
Quote"subtle subjects."
Answer:I gave you definition of word:
subtle"subtle" : everything that is so delicate or precise as to be difficult to analyze or describe.
.encyclopedia.com/literature- (https://www.encyclopedia.com/literature-and-arts/literature-english/english-literature-20th-cent-present/subtle)
-but how could you understand it if you don't know how to process logic of English language.
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Quote from: nix85 on June 09, 2021, 09:23:49 AM
You proclaimed yourself a physicist for 30 years,
Tell me the truth
nix85 - who does the reading for you?
Answer: This is what I wrote:
Quote from: stivep on June 09, 2021, 08:33:57 AM
Answer:
Here is who I'm:
https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg558293/#msg558293 (https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg558293/#msg558293)
Position in human horde is affecting you as an animal and your influential status.
https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg558293/#msg558293 (https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg558293/#msg558293)
____________________________________________________________________________
And yes
I'm in physics for more than 30 years now.
- but one doesn't exclude the other.
___________________________________________________
Summary: I do respond to your comments from the position of social respect.
You didn't provide firm answers having a solid, almost unyielding surface or structure.
You are acting like... like a dog jumping around and trying to find any chance to bite .
I'm not your enemy,
But how do you know that?
:)
Wesley :)
Quote from: stivep on June 09, 2021, 02:00:44 PM
1. You have problem with understanding English language:
No, Wesley, you do. Even tho i'm non native speaker, my English is way better than yours, sentence structure, terminology and overall expression, not to mention how scattered and chaotic everything you write is.
Quote
Example1: a - Please read the first two words: "For physics"
b - construct mental picture of a sense of the sentence.
Conclusion:
It is the physics that doesn't recognize existence of any spiritual models that are based on believes.
Your personal position to this particular subject in question is never mentioned in my comment.
___________________________________________
Example2:a. - Please read the first three words: "And for Darwin"
b - construct mental picture of a sense of the sentence.
Conclusion:
It is the Darwin evolutionist, that doesn't recognize you as a human - in any other form but only:
- as an animal that belongs to group of animals known as mammals.
Action:
You may disagree but than you will not graduate, unless you say:
-that according to Darwin you are an animal
___________________________________________________
If you were not taking things so literally, so black and white, you would've looked at the context, just 2 paragraphs below i make it very clear that material physics is inferior to Spiritual Physics. Physical instruments can measure only so much, especially those of mainstream physics. If we take into account those of the black projects, then such science is much closer to REAL science.
The very reason mainstream science is so limited and in big part flawed is for this materialistic approach, which we see slowly reverse in quantum physics but still their models are flawed missing the simpler all encompassing model, similar to which i touch upon in one of previous posts.
Quote
physics is not based on beliefs but on models. If model doesn't works for us we throw it away as we did with Ether/eather.
We don't have believes in physics - we have predictions
A prediction is: a statement that we make about the future.
I never said physics is based on belief (altho ultimately this whole reality IS based on belief and is fundamentally imaginary, unreal), belief is a transitory phase, once one has done enough research and work in particular area, there is no place for belief.
Just because you limited yourself to what big boys say, mainstream narrative, it only shows your lack of discernment, there is a whole another, REAL science happening parallel with mainstream, that did not dismiss ether, overunity, or gravity control, Keely, Hollingshead, Zirbes, Bearden being just a few in a long chain of great ones whom you SHOULD'VE but you didn't study.
In his 1921 monograph Sidelights on Relativity Einstein states:
"Recapitulating, we may say that according to the general theory of relativity, space is endowed with physical qualities; in this sense, therefore, there exists Aether. According to the general theory of relativity space without Aether is unthinkable; for in such a space there not only would be no propagation of light, but also no possibility of existence for standards of space and time. (measured rods and clocks), nor therefore any space intervals in the physical sense."
Quote
You nix85 used the wording: ________________________________________
Answer:
I gave you definition of word: subtle
"subtle" : everything that is so delicate or precise as to be difficult to analyze or describe.
.encyclopedia.com/literature- (https://www.encyclopedia.com/literature-and-arts/literature-english/english-literature-20th-cent-present/subtle)
-but how could you understand it if you don't know how to process logic of English language.
Tell me the truth nix85 - who does the reading for you?
Here are few synonyms for subtle: fine, minute, precise, elusive.
Subtle is indeed a great term, subtle energies are exactly what we are talking about, finer forms of energy, elusive for those who don't know how to extract/resist them.
Again, one great example being etheric rainmaking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwhu2G2p2sM
One of us really has trouble understanding English, i'll give you a hint, it ain't me.
Quote
Answer: [/sub]
This is what I wrote:And yes
I'm in physics for more than 30 years now.
- but one doesn't exclude the other.
So much uncalled for rant. Ok you did not say you are a physicist, but "in physics". Excuse mua, such a great difference.
Isn't it sweet how you did not even address the 4th law of motion and inertial propulsion or etheric rainmaking, you, with such "great" experience in physics. :)
Quote
Summary:
I do respond to your comments from the position of social respect.
You didn't provide firm answers having a solid, almost unyielding surface or structure.
You are acting like... like a dog jumping around and trying to find any chance to bite .
I'm not your enemy,
But how do you know that?
:)
Wesley :)
I doubt you can understand the concept of respect.
Compare this or my last post to your last posts, mine with no personal attacks, no name calling, yours full of angry, aggressive rhetoric, personal attacks, demeaning paraboles...so who is "like a dog jumping around and trying to find any chance to bite". Look in the mirror, Wesley, boi.
No Wesley, you are not my enemy, you are your own worst enemy. :)
There is nothing to quote from your comment.
1. you expressed your opinion.
2. you addressed Ether, Spiritual Physics....you have rights to your opinion.
3. I was never aggressive, but you have rights to your opinion.
4. I never assigned myself into being or not being a physicist as titles and ranks are not important here. :)
-moreover I don't need you to attack me based on a position in human animal horde you belong too. https://a-z-animals.com/animals/human/ (https://a-z-animals.com/animals/human/)
Answer:QuoteHere is who I'm:
https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg558293/#msg558293 (https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg558293/#msg558293)
Position in human horde is affecting you as an animal and your influential status.
https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg558293/#msg558293 (https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg558293/#msg558293)
No matter how many times I repeat that you can't get it right.
____________________________________________________5. Mentioned by you .
In Sidelights on Relativity Einstein :
page 9.
QuoteThe ether does not exist at all.
https://www.ibiblio.org/ebooks/Einstein/Sidelights/Einstein_Sidelights.pdf (https://www.ibiblio.org/ebooks/Einstein/Sidelights/Einstein_Sidelights.pdf)
page 10
QuoteThe special theory of relativity forbids us to assume the ether to consist of particles observable through time,
page11
QuoteFrom the standpoint of the special theory of relativity, the ether hypothesis appears at first to be an empty hypothesis.
page14
QuoteAccording to the general theory of relativity space without ether is unthinkable; for in such space there not only would
be no propagation of light
but:QuoteBut this ether may not be thought of as endowed with the quality characteristic of
ponderable media, as consisting of parts which may be tracked through time.
The idea of motion may not be applied to it.
Explanation of word:
- ponderable : having appreciable weight or significance.
- ponderable media : are all ponderable bodies that are constantly in motion in through space
and consisting of parts which may be tracked through time.
____________________________________________________Summary:
https://overunity.com/18815/has-anyone-here-constructed-an-overunity-system-that-works/msg558116/#msg558116 (https://overunity.com/18815/has-anyone-here-constructed-an-overunity-system-that-works/msg558116/#msg558116)
3 points in time belonging to the same frame of reference. - the plane
explains that in 1916 science started to build new model for General Relativity
and later on that model was improved rejecting totally Ether/Eather due to
development of new form of analysis.
The statement of Einstein was among many other statements not yet corrected to its present form.
You are referring into frozen point time in that particular book.. but you not taking to the account the improved by science
Model of General Relativity
Wesley
No one cares about your titles, i simply referred to your supposed 30 years of physics experience yet, you are ignorant of even the most basic mechanical principles like 4th law of motion, let alone the true mechanics of the time-space.
There is much to quote but you are dodging anything that doesn't suit your little worldview.
For start, address the etheric rainmaking and inertial propulsion.
"The special theory of relativity forbids us to assume the ether to consist of particles observable through time,"
Yet mainstream physics is perfectly fine with concept of virtual particles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_particle
Vibration of ether CREATES time and time creates space.
First of all ether is not made of particles. There are no particles, anywhere, anywhen, there are just waves. There is just one infinite forcefield made of vibrations of infinite frequency and amplitude bound by secondary vibrations of finite frequency and amplitude which create interference patterns along 6 axis of time, time is AC, it just oscillates "in place", it never moves. Each matter-antimatter universe picks up oscillations in opposite directions, thus matter-antimatter timelines flow in opposite directions.
3D space is created by imaginary angle between 6 time axis
"The angle of 60 degrees could only be created by an apparent frequency shift maintaining the harmonic vibrations of the rotating field."
In other words, this is the very root of relativity, REAL relativity, from perspective of each of 6 time axis, nearby axis appears to oscillate at 1/2 it's frequency altho they are exactly the same. This allows perception of depth and consequently illusion of 3D space. Time is first, space second, it is time-space, NOT space-time.
https://galactic.no/rune/iarapdx1.html
http://www.resona.nl/Denaerde/denaerde.html
Michelson–Morley experiment is nonsensical, we already experience motion of ether as gravity (and antigravity). Within a gravitational bubble, local reference frame, only direction the ether moves is from all sides toward earth center and back into space in another form, gravitational bubble being polarization of ether.
With appropriate apparatus you could detect motion of ether spiraling around the earth all the way to it's boundary just beyond our Moon and then back to the poles.
Earth "falls" in Sun's vortex, neutral energy piles up along the leading edge (equator) and makes the planet rotate which produces the differential of neutral energy between the equator and the axis which in turn makes neutral energy spiral from the equator toward to poles, in same direction (toward east) on both hemisphere, this develops Earth's own vortex which repels the parent vortex due to C+ speeds in the outer layers of the magnetic field which shear and release energy in form of expanding bubbles of nothing. Whole universe works like this, from smallest subatomic "particle" to entire cosmos.
Natural principles are simple, for those with eyes to see.
If you want to read the full FALLING BODIES THEORY by Zirbes, i upload a book which is not so easy to find any more.
Zirbes and his team performed great number of experiments with gravity in an abandoned mine 2000 feet deep by throwing balls of various metals in various configurations and photographing and measuring the time of impact for each.
One experiment in which a sphere of iron and a sphere of graphite of equal weight were simultaneously dropped down. Amazingly, the graphite sphere, although considerably larger than the iron sphere because of its lower density, and therefore prone to more wind resistance, impacted when the iron sphere was still six feet from impact. A similar experiment using spheres of other metals revealed that the iron sphere still impacted later than all the other spheres. Moreover, the spheres diverged considerably from each other prior to impact and also developed a specific rotation when falling.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/93ywxfxh71p7jz7/zirbes.pdf/file
http://www.rexresearch.com/zirbes/zirbes.htm
Sorry this is not my style of conversation.
You are not responding to the questions and answers in the format
of logical conclusion I'm familiar with.
I may have nothing against e.g Russian Fish Market but I don't want be a part of it.
Thank you for your time.
Happy Ether, Happy Overunity and any other nonsense to you. :)
Wesley.
I'm sure it sounds illogical to you :)
Are you gonna flee before you addressed
1) ETHERIC RAINMAKING
2) CENTRIFUGAL PROPULSION
Or maybe you claim these also to be "nonsense" :)
Good Morning,un-/balanced line in topic theme ?
I reed yesterday also about RELATIVTY,cause the 1951 date from Diracs "ether of particles" expression,knowing from the End 80',but End 1880, experiment of "ether" existent confirmation/deny by Michelson and later also Morlay ! Michelson-Morlay
Why there where an "ether" search ? Sound waves velocity ! Light velocity,later c = constant velocity of light !
Ether = a carrier medium
1901 : based " Galilei his Relativity" A.Einstein refind a Ge(ne)ral Relativity and definition,in whose light its c not only on earth but astronomically " universal,everywhere" is resistantfree same in its speed and velocity !
So we have to differ the expression ' ether' as wave/light phenomen and in use ,meaning " cloud and/or sphere" !
Nano- dimension-sphere,Sub-Angstrom( 1 Angstrom ~ 1 Atom thickness ) Sub-Atom = nucleus/nuclear
2021 : electricity is anymore 'electron's,by international convention now to be expressed as ION and/or PLASMA, and all other kinds of e-particles !
Please,when You all dispute about " science disputation about hypo-/thesis" repeat the both opponent sides by academical Physics "facts" in the 18./19./20.century !
And as last : from 'Galileis Relativity" A.Einstein refind and confirmed James Clerk Maxwells original 20(21?) Formulas/Equations and Isaak Newtons gravity field findings as structure elements for his "Relativity theorems" ART and SRT.
Sincere
OCWL
Good point about constant light velocity, lanca.
Also, the nonsensical concept of expansion of space.
Space is infinite, boundless, it does not expand or contract.
Model of the universe according to what was shown to Bentov
https://youtu.be/KMbeK_6ATxQ?t=4156
Parallel RCL RLC-Reihenschwingkreis
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwingkreis
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwingkreis
RLC circuit - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org (https://en.wikipedia.org) › wiki › R...
An RLC circuit is an electrical circuit consisting of a resistor (R), an inductor (L), and a capacitor (C), connected in series or in parallel.
and https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blindstrom (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blindstrom) ,reactive current ,active current = Wirkstrom only valid for : AC technology (https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wechselstrom?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=ajax,se)
( pulsed DC ?)
" Blind(e,er),blind ,original solely translation = unable to see because of injury, disease, or a congenital condition.
a blind man with a stick "
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blindstrom (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blindstrom)
not/consumed : charge active current and carrier reactive current
For energy transfer to happen voltage and current must be in phase.
Reactive power means voltage and current are not in phase, energy bounces back n forth.
Resistance brings them in phase.
Exception is an antenna, voltage and current are 90° outta phase, yet it radiates.
They have radiation resistance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuVQqFhualI
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomsonsche_Schwingungsgleichung (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomsonsche_Schwingungsgleichung)
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomsonsche_Schwingungsgleichung (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomsonsche_Schwingungsgleichung)
oscillating circuit
E : magnetic field energy of the coil
E : electrical field energy of the capacitor:
Total energy of the system (constant)
how a circuit " becomes harvester/generator/converter" ?! "imaginary/real" magnetic field "particles" and electric field "particles"
magneton
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.chemie-schule.de/KnowHow/Bohrsches_Magneton
graviton ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graviton
Thomson or Kelvin
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Thomson,_1._Baron_Kelvin (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Thomson,_1._Baron_Kelvin)
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Thomson,_1._Baron_Kelvin (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Thomson,_1._Baron_Kelvin)
condensator/capacitor and spring analogon related maximal temperature and minimum temperature : 0°K(elvin)
bedingt das e-Feld das b-Feld,oder inverse oder ist es nur "gedankliche Annaehrung" ? 1/2/3/4D ?
does the e-field cause the b-field, or inverse, or is it just ,the e-/b-field images,static "mental approximation"? 1/2/3 / 4D?
e-field : + to - orientation
b-field : cw/ccw spin (arrow) orientation
the two in one
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/Lorentzkraft_und_Induktion.svg/220px-Lorentzkraft_und_Induktion.svg.png (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/Lorentzkraft_und_Induktion.svg/220px-Lorentzkraft_und_Induktion.svg.png)
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentzkraft (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentzkraft)
or Biot-Savart also Ampere also Laplace Force
natural particles behavior or enforced being -in tube/in coil - "enclosed" and deficient in freedom degrees or (brownian/temperature) movement speed increasing cause (sub-)ion(-particle)-"wind shadow" effect (spin positive/negative ,neutral)
different particles and their polarisation (and MeV) lifetime !
air core versus solid core : movement ! ( Ether -GEDANKENPROBLEM : wave/light ! ::) )
Resistance brings them in phase. in Ohm,in Mho (or Siemens ),by RESISTANCE ZERO ?
A/m finitum number ?
https://phys.org/news/2012-03-efficiency.html (https://phys.org/news/2012-03-efficiency.html) "voltage decrease" is the boss here
Plancksche or Diracsche Konstante ! https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.chemie.de/lexikon/Plancksches_Wirkungsquantum.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.chemie.de/lexikon/Plancksches_Wirkungsquantum.html)
is the boss its number here : https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/dlattach/attach/181834/image// (https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/dlattach/attach/181834/image//)
They have radiation resistance. :o
"They" ? the device/s ? the "emissive/receiving" medium particles ? L.A.S.E.R,M.A.S.E.R : .... E.R. ( P.H.A.S.E.R.)
" resistance " : electrical,magnetical,kinetical-mechanical ?
a bullit shoots out the pistol/gun chamber/channel : in chamber phase velocity,outer chamber :
in air/solid medium ( bullit straight/rotative movement ?) ballistics
carbon : conductor or isolator ?
nano-carbon : conductor or isolator
carbon or nano-carbon on/off switch ? METAmaterial
Nano tubes internal a-/normal movement behaviour ? attraction/cohaesion (e/-, m/-) forces ?
decreasing Voltage and high A/m :
http://www.rexresearch.com/kemeny/kemeny.html (http://www.rexresearch.com/kemeny/kemeny.html)
A new electric circuit system for electric cars
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20190328&CC=DE&NR=112017003611A5&KC=A5 (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20190328&CC=DE&NR=112017003611A5&KC=A5)
Device for an electric drive for electric vehicles
reactive-displacement current-circuits
Quote from: lancaIV on June 10, 2021, 07:37:08 AM
They have radiation resistance. :o
Yes, antennas have radiation resistance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_resistance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_resistance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_resistance)
Unlike other resistances found in electrical circuits, radiation resistance is not due to the opposition (resistivity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_resistivity_and_conductivity)) of the material of the antenna conductors to electric current; it is a virtual resistance due to the antenna's loss of energy as radio waves.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_resistance#cite_note-Straw-2)[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_resistance#cite_note-FOOTNOTEFeynmanLeightonSands196332-1-1)
to radio conversion (resistance) losts
give me please an (near) 100% conversion principle !
Betz/Carnot cycle efficiency ( also valid for e.-m.-circuits ) : over this given efficiencies !
You can get high C.O.P. devices,but the efficiency factor <(theoretical limit same) =1 :
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnot-Wirkungsgrad (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnot-Wirkungsgrad)
eta
But 8) : f.e. https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=DE&NR=102010044865A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20120315&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=DE&NR=102010044865A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20120315&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)
in using "forbidden "( non Physics ,algebra and geometry) "pure statistical/abstract " maths lessons formula its laws and order :
Bruch/Division : Divident and Divisor = Quotient Divisor = positive number or negative number ,NEVER ZERO
simple calculator gives : SYNTAX ERROR ( forbidden ! Denied !)
When a number is negative than there has to be a cross point from negative to positve ,in time - ,in local distance)
in PHYSICS ZERO is the MIDDLE POINT from the XYZ Coordination-Cross,with movement from/to/cross ZERO
Multi-dimensional PHYSICS SYNTAX in formulas applying !
We read even about "negative time " in Quantum-mechanics !
reactive and active current compact circuit,off-grid,self-charging
Like i said before, EVERYTHING RADIATES in almost all circumstances.
EVERYTHING SPINS
NOT EVERYTHING RESISTS
Or rather, everything orbits and orbiting is acceleration.
Quote from: nix85 on June 10, 2021, 09:28:49 AM
Or rather, everything orbits and orbiting is acceleration.
F( + direction arrow) = m x a a= acceleration.(or) not !?
F( +direction vector) = orbit/-s/-ing !? ???
Circular motion is acceleration, velocity vector changes constantly.
Moon-Earth
The other planets their moons
The planetary elipsoid movement around the sun ,in our solar system
the comets
.........
all this in accelerative manner ?
the periodic table elements their particles in their orbis : self enriching by acceleration
All
Can we radiate a simple ( or complex) experiment to show any anonymous gain
Mechanism?
With out pointing to a stack of patents
Or a myriad of old fuzzy ( in how to replicate successfully ) videos ?
100's perhaps 1000's of open source replicators and builders would be more than casually
Interested .
ANY simple reproducible anomaly?
"Gain mechanism "
Please ?
Respectfully submitted
Chet
Edit
Sorry I missed a comment below
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Quote from: nix85 on June 10, 2021, 10:50:03 AM
All
classsical physics dox and quantum physics dox + to classical para-dox
dox( docere,docent,doctor/a,doctrin,doctorate )
positive f= m x a not f= m x v
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acceleration (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acceleration) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velocity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velocity) or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed
conditionized = not ALL and everywhere
in vaccuo,in air,in solid,....
phase acceleration,average acceleration,...
negative f
https://cnx.org/contents/UYPplaH7@29.32:CvRVM0Jk@14/Acceleration-and-deceleration (https://cnx.org/contents/UYPplaH7@29.32:CvRVM0Jk@14/Acceleration-and-deceleration)
A total of six (6) attributes viz time, distance, displacement, speed, velocity and acceleration are used to describe motion.
Three of these namely time, distance and speed are scalar quantities, whereas the remaining three attributes namely displacement, velocity and acceleration are vectors. Interpretations of these two groups are different with respect to (ii) negative and positive sign and (i) sense of increase and decrease. Further these interpretations are also affected by whether we consider these terms in one or two/three dimensional motion.
The meaning of scalar quantities is more and less clear. The scalar attributes have only magnitude and no sense of direction. The attributes "distance" and "speed" are positive quantities. There is no possibility of negative values for these two quantities. In general, time is also positive. However, it can be assigned negative value to represent a time instant that occurs before the start of observation. For this reason, it is entirely possible that we may get negative time as solution of kinematics consideration.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acceleration#/media/File:Oscillating_pendulum.gif (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acceleration#/media/File:Oscillating_pendulum.gif)
related https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.physik.uni-wuppertal.de/de/physik-home/oeffentlichkeitsarbeit/das-foucaultsche-pendel/die-idee-des-herrn-foucault-2.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.physik.uni-wuppertal.de/de/physik-home/oeffentlichkeitsarbeit/das-foucaultsche-pendel/die-idee-des-herrn-foucault-2.html)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/Acceleration_components.JPG/220px-Acceleration_components.JPG (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/Acceleration_components.JPG/220px-Acceleration_components.JPG)
Quote from: ramset on June 10, 2021, 11:19:50 AM
Can we radiate a simple ( or complex) experiment to show any anonymous gain
Mechanism?
With out pointing to a stack of patents
Or a myriad of old fuzzy ( in how to replicate successfully ) videos ?
100's perhaps 1000's of open source replicators and builders would be more than casually
Interested .
ANY simple reproducible anomaly?
"Gain mechanism "
Please ?
Respectfully submitted
Chet
Edit
Sorry I missed a comment below
...
Mechanical SOLARSYSTEM PROCESS MIMICRY
Sonnen-Planeten-Rad-Getriebe
https://www-ingenieurkurse-de.translate.goog/assets/courses/media/planetengetriebe-schema-ca.webp?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=ajax (https://www-ingenieurkurse-de.translate.goog/assets/courses/media/planetengetriebe-schema-ca.webp?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=ajax)
compared
offered by nix85 https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/dlattach/attach/181837/image// (https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/dlattach/attach/181837/image//)
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.ingenieurkurse.de/fahrzeugtechnik/antriebe/antriebsstrang-eines-kraftfahrzeugs/arten-von-getrieben/planetengetriebe.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.ingenieurkurse.de/fahrzeugtechnik/antriebe/antriebsstrang-eines-kraftfahrzeugs/arten-von-getrieben/planetengetriebe.html)
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://harmonicdrive.de/de/technologie/harmonic-planetengetriebe (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://harmonicdrive.de/de/technologie/harmonic-planetengetriebe)
let us look for fuzzies description
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19951107&CC=US&NR=5463914A&KC=A
and a fuzzy guy ,cited documents :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=4&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19701013&CC=US&NR=3533484A&KC=A
his fuzzy ouvre :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=WOOD+GARFIELD+A+JR&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search
with which he reached world-records
All orbital motions are acceleration, amen.
Quote from: nix85 on June 10, 2021, 12:50:03 PM
All orbital motions are acceleration, amen.
I left 1988 the romano-catholic church ( the Amen/o ! com pany et circenses) and their membership.
in dubio ergo pro reo
btw : Galileo Galilei was in his postulat right,but it was by his boss ,the bishop of Rome= Pope ( Galilei was clerical member)
interest the decision to deny the new understanding ( and geo-political consequences)
the sun not surrounds the earth,not the Vaticano ?!
Sensitive to Catholic teaching and positioning : what (in which personification) rules the "humans" world ?!
For the geo-political cision later another romano-catholic mongue served,Augustiner Martin Luther !
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther
cuius re... https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuius_regio,_eius_religio (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuius_regio,_eius_religio)
Sorry to interrupt
"Centripetal acceleration, the acceleration of a body traversing a circular path. Because velocity is a vector quantity (that is, it has both a magnitude, the speed, and a direction), when a body travels on a circular path, its direction constantly changes and thus its velocity changes, producing an acceleration."
https://www.britannica.com/science/centripetal-acceleration
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrifugal_force (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrifugal_force)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centripetal_force (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centripetal_force)
think by Your given example https://cdn.britannica.com/s:690x388,c:crop/42/150742-050-30CC368E/bucket-force-string-circle-centre.jpg (https://cdn.britannica.com/s:690x388,c:crop/42/150742-050-30CC368E/bucket-force-string-circle-centre.jpg)
about : bumerang (success = does not come back = hunting luck fail : comes back ,original a weapon )
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bumerang (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bumerang)
and the in Middle/South America used : https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bola (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bola)
and by the way: this is not FREE ACCELERATION ,FIXPOINT
https://cdn.britannica.com/s:690x388,c:crop/42/150742-050-30CC368E/bucket-force-string-circle-centre.jpg (https://cdn.britannica.com/s:690x388,c:crop/42/150742-050-30CC368E/bucket-force-string-circle-centre.jpg)
PUNKT,STRAHL,LINIE,STRECKE POINT, RAY, LINE, DISTANCE GEOMETRY
to the clerical : Amen/o the saecular pendant : BASTA ! ;)
"this is not FREE ACCELERATION ,FIXPOINT"
It is not free acceleration in a sense that body is gaining ever greater speed but it is acceleration.
nix85, have You an old disc player with disc plate ?
You bring the disc to rotations,phase 1 ,You do not more touch the disc player:
You count the disc rotations by time and rotations number and can then calculate peak/average
you give in force : you receive force
this is here in oscillations explained
https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/dlattach/attach/181845/image// (https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/dlattach/attach/181845/image//)
2 storages inter-communication
like https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20190328&CC=DE&NR=112017003611A5&KC=A5 (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20190328&CC=DE&NR=112017003611A5&KC=A5)
but conventional : storage 1 to storage 2 = < 100% to storage 1 back < 100%(<100)
It is not free acceleration in a sense that body is gaining ever greater speed but it is acceleration.
physical pendant : a space shuttle starts from earth basic velocity ?
a space shuttle starts from an Jumbo 747 basic velocity ?
a micro shuttle starting from space shuttle basic velocity ?
constant velocity and accelerating velocity during the force accumulating process
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blide%23:~:text%3DDie%2520Blide%2520war%2520die%2520gr%25C3%25B6%25C3%259Fte,trabatium%29 (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blide%23:~:text%3DDie%2520Blide%2520war%2520die%2520gr%25C3%25B6%25C3%259Fte,trabatium%29).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trebuchet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trebuchet)
It would be timely really boring if not friction would stop this "non endless/not accelerating" ball movement :
http://www.rouletteratgeber.info/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Roulette-Tisch-620x330.jpg (http://www.rouletteratgeber.info/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Roulette-Tisch-620x330.jpg)
developped by the Marquis de Laplace for the Regents of France,Richelieu and Mazzarin(o,from Apulia/ITA),the first Estate Lottery
The croupier ball movement by begin : disc/ball cw/cw or cw/ccw ? why ?
I don't see what your point it, centripetal acceleration simply means
acceleration due to change of direction.
It is not to be mixed with linear acceleration where speed increases.
centripetal acceleration = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_psIWtPBHzA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_psIWtPBHzA)
ac= v2/r
it is important for later circuits understanding : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F_rmZ1nXFQ
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirchhoff%27s_circuit_laws#Limitations
Fine,to refind Kirchhoffs rules by in-law and out-law conditioning : PARA-/DOXON
https://paxscientific.com/ (https://paxscientific.com/) hydraulic/electric
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=US&NR=1941593A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19340102&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=US&NR=1941593A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19340102&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)
line 25-36,first document page
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suIAo0EYwOE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suIAo0EYwOE)
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teslaventil (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teslaventil)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_valve (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_valve)
and search machine and/or youtube : Tesla valve
( https://www.newscientist.com/article/2277794-century-old-water-valve-invented-by-nikola-tesla-could-have-modern-use/ (https://www.newscientist.com/article/2277794-century-old-water-valve-invented-by-nikola-tesla-could-have-modern-use/)
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-23009-y (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-23009-y) )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coand%C4%83_effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coand%C4%83_effect)
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19210316&CC=FR&NR=514684A&KC=A (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19210316&CC=FR&NR=514684A&KC=A)
to
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19210709&CC=FR&NR=521330A&KC=A (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19210709&CC=FR&NR=521330A&KC=A)
and
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=13&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19220721&CC=FR&NR=540979A&KC=A (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=13&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19220721&CC=FR&NR=540979A&KC=A)
and linear
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=FR&NR=667647A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19291018&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=FR&NR=667647A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19291018&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)
Pour concevoir et réaliser la présente in vention, ii fallait d'abord trouver une interprétation neuve du phénomène mai connu de l'induction électrique.
L'énoncé de cette interprétation est né cessaire pour définir exactement les caractéristiques essentielles de l'invention, de manière intelligible, soit : .
1 Le flux inducteur, issu d'un foyer quelconque (pile, accumulateur, etc.) re-foule le milieu ambiant, comme le ferait la force centrifuge d'un volant en rotation.
2 Le flux induit .(ou, pour mieux dire, le reflux) issu du milieu extérieur, révèle l'énergie immense mise en jeu, durant les oscillations de la masse fluididique spa tiale revenant vers son équilibre normal. Ii s'assimile à la force centripète de l'air, sollicitée par la rotation d'un volant.
3 L'énergie induite (qualifiée centri pète), est toujours plus puissante que celle (qualifiée centrifuge) ou inductrice qui est la cause perturbatrice de l'équilibre spatial.
4 La puissance du courant induit (capté dans l'espace) est en proportion di recte de la sensibilité de l'instrument récepteur et de sa capacité électrique.
5 La bobine d'induction actuelle, for mée de deux circuits indépendants et rap prochés (primaire et secondaire) comprend un récepteur commode et très sensible qui est le circuit secondaire ou induit .
6 La capacité électrique dudit récepteur dépend de deux facteurs : tension et intensité;
l'élévation de la tension étant di rectement proportionnelle au nombre de spires induites, multiple de celui des spires inductrices (ce qui est connu),
et essentiellement, l'élévation simultanée de l'intensité étant directement proportionnelle à la surface de section du conducteur induit,
indépendamment de la puissance du flux inducteur et du calibre du conducteur primaire (ce qui était insoupçonné).
Toutes les machines d'induction ac- tuelles (dynamos, alternateurs, transformateurs, bobines de Ruhmkorff, etc.) sont considérées comme de simples transfor- mateurs de l'énergie (travail en chaleur, électricité, basse tension- en haute tension, etc., et inversement).
En réalité, la présente découverte démontre
que le flux inducteur et le flux induit sont deux formes opposées de l'énergie (l'un centrifuge, l'autre centripète)
et que la bobine d'induction bien comprise n'est pas un simple transformateur, mais un merveilleux multiplicateur d'énergie.
La puissance remarquable de l'étincelle de rupture confirme pleinement cette théorie
et prouve que le flux induit (centripède) est toujours plus énergique que le flux inducteur (centrifuge).
improved fluid (recycling) technology
https://books.google.pt/books?id=hcTMCgAAQBAJ&pg=PT155&lpg=PT155&dq=edginton+vacuum+cleaner&source=bl&ots=OtQwW899Ip&sig=ACfU3U0VRSKqY-QsKeQ9OFL0wgN-MkzHkg&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi7qLObko7xAhXJz4UKHT1KCyUQ6AEwEnoECBMQAw#v=onepage&q=edginton%20vacuum%20cleaner&f=false (https://books.google.pt/books?id=hcTMCgAAQBAJ&pg=PT155&lpg=PT155&dq=edginton+vacuum+cleaner&source=bl&ots=OtQwW899Ip&sig=ACfU3U0VRSKqY-QsKeQ9OFL0wgN-MkzHkg&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi7qLObko7xAhXJz4UKHT1KCyUQ6AEwEnoECBMQAw#v=onepage&q=edginton%20vacuum%20cleaner&f=false)
http://www.g0cwt.co.uk/arc/ (http://www.g0cwt.co.uk/arc/) 250 W instead 1400 W ( first consumption improveable)
https://showerloop.org/ (https://showerloop.org/) 90% reduction in water usage and 70-90% in energy reduction for a 10 minute shower with a flow rate of 10 l/min
;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aePwfWOT-Gw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aePwfWOT-Gw)
related phase https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inrush_current (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inrush_current) and voltage / average current and voltage
lecture about inrush "administration"
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=ken&IN=kazumi+masaki&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=ken&IN=kazumi+masaki&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search)
DC or AC or pulse/pure phase/ inrush VA converter :)
I tried in the 2000 beginnings to introduce the Cosby-engine,here in Portugal : no feed-back from industrial side .
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=CA&NR=973375A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19750826&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=CA&NR=973375A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19750826&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)
to
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=11&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19970506&CC=US&NR=5626459A&KC=A (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=11&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19970506&CC=US&NR=5626459A&KC=A)
principle compared Casimir plan Vortex plates converter !
and principle compared https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schukey-Motor (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schukey-Motor)
8) http://www.rexresearch.com/platen/platen.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/platen/platen.htm)
( underestimated his oeuvre and possible industrial/commercial effect
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=baltzar+von+platen&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=baltzar+von+platen&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search) )
Edginton turbo-cleaner : in tube micro-turbine for partial fluid to electricity and average input demand diminuation
E -cleaner : with capacitive winding motor 8) 14 W instead varistor controled 250 W or conventional 1400 W ::)
Edginton technology use ( see his web-page)
Einzelraumbeluefter mit Gegenstrom-Waermetauscher
Single room ventilator with counterflow heat exchanger 1 Watt per hour consume
Central house-conditiong with counterflow heat exchanger
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19780418&CC=US&NR=4084408A&KC=A (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19780418&CC=US&NR=4084408A&KC=A)
https://www.level-recuperator.nl/over-ons (https://www.level-recuperator.nl/over-ons)
Smartbox
The system COP is > 10, depending on the conditions.
Studying and learning from the really BESTS ! And improving for NEXT LEVEL !
By stimulus : https://www.brainlight.de/presse/publikationen/die-4-gehirnwellen-typen.html (https://www.brainlight.de/presse/publikationen/die-4-gehirnwellen-typen.html)
and professional preview https://faithpopcorn.com/the-popcorn-report/ (https://faithpopcorn.com/the-popcorn-report/)
conditionized : 1982 and L.A. November,2019 ;D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eogpIG53Cis :
Magnetic field administrated Flycars ::)
"Level is the founder of heat recovery from ventilation air with high efficiency (>90%)."
That is hardly COP 10.
nix85,"English is not my mother-language(!)" ,You wrote !
Okay !
the 'Smartbox'.
The Smartbox combines ventilation, heating, cooling and (de)humidification for a standard office. It ensures a comfortable and healthy indoor climate and delivers fresh air at a temperature, humidity and flow rate that fits the needs of the individual user.
An heat-pump with dehumidifier and counterflow heat-exchanger = all in one system !
only heat pump system :
Air-to-Air heat pump ,conventional C.O.P. 2-3 (in cold winter <1 )
Air-to-Air inverter motor heat pump,C.O.P. 4 ( " " " lower )
Air-to-water heat pump,conventional C.O.P. 5-8
English is neither my mother her native language (portuguese) nor my father (R.I.P.) his language ( was saxon,deutsch,german)
Sincere
OCWL
Can anyone describe in laymen terms the difference between c.o.p. and efficiency. COP>/< than 1 is thrown around a good bit but is it the correct terminology when describing how much energy </>.
Can anyone describe in laymen terms the difference between c.o.p. and efficiency.
] 8) downside laymen(m./f./n.) view
You weight 80 Kg
in 1 hour You bring 25 cement sacks by each 50 Kg weight from point A to point B. = 1250 Kg / 80 Kg = work C.O.P. 15,625
Your team worker weights 90 Kg
he brings in 1 hour 30 cement sacks by each 50 Kg weight from same point A to point B. = 1500 Kg/90 Kg = C.O.P. 16,66
Your team worker is by C.O.P. 16,66 more efficient as YOU : eta = efficiency 15,625/16,66 = 0,9379 Yours related his efficiency
By comparison now the decision :
YOU ARE FIRED, cause : inefficiency ;) by demonstration
Thanks Lanca, I was going to ask for analogy but you beat me to it.
But : the fired-papers will not get You ,in REAL WORLD ,
but Your team collegue ::)
because he demands 15 US$/h and You only 12 US$/h 8)
cogito ergo sum
Happy ,employed ,weekend wishing
OCWL
p.s. ; thinking is movement ,here for-or backward ?
:o https://apps-cloud.n-tv.de/img/22613542-1623417886000/16-9/750/KZGDammboot.jpg
Maybe I hit him in knee with a stick to slow him down. LOL.
Quote from: kajunbee on June 11, 2021, 11:42:18 AM
Maybe I hit him in knee with a stick to slow him down. LOL.
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.kraus-und-partner.de/presse_archiv/5476_PR-1113-110926_ChannelPartner_DieErsten100Tage.pdf
be popular or be successful ( ::) : both !) 8)
An " overunity" COP
You pick up one cement block carry it to
Same place as previous worker , except when you place it down there are
Two ... instead of one
COP > 2 ( a miracle !!
Boss will hug you ......world will wonder how ?
No one has ever shared how it's done ...
Nor seen such a miracle ....( reproducible or replication !
Maybe not best or most accurate example but ......?
I can see how that might score me some brownie points Ramset. I also think that's a great way to describe it. If that doesn't snap one into reality then nothing will.
You are right ,Chet ! ( You hidden ' Modernist')
Even Jesus,it is written( I think so),only multiplied ordinary fish and vine !
Probably he had a contract with the cement block industry or the components from cement is for multiplying too dry !?
Who knowes it,we have to work faster for the Jesus-time-back-machine,for asking and confirmation !
There are not more important question/s than these/this !
Sincere,schoenes Wochenende
OCWL
Lanca, nothing about that heat collector is above COP 1 let alone 10, in English, Portuguese, German or Mandarin.
If you want COP 80 heater..
https://infinitysav.com/centrifugalboiler/
You are entertaining,are not You ?
What is for You the problem with :
" nothing about that heat collector is a. above COP 1 b. let alone 10,
- each NORMSTANDART Air-2-Air heat-pump has to reach in average in minimum C.O.P. 2
- there is no heat-exchanger,and will never exist,with eta greater/same 1
- yes,heat-pumps are heat collector ,from outside -heat in - (space heating function) or inside -heat out- (space cooling function)
in English, Portuguese, German or Mandarin " Kishuaheli ? As Tangerine dream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK-lQY6U17c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK-lQY6U17c)
Yes,it was bespoken several months back : ( was the inventor not killed or died by natural cause ?)
https://infinitysav.com/centrifugalboiler/ (https://infinitysav.com/centrifugalboiler/) heat function,not cooling ! ( But is it not that we can melt by heat water to ice ?)
oil friction work C.O.P. 80 (200 W + 50 W controler) for up to 20 000 W output
10 000 RPM and 200 W rated power : a real good device for Ferreira capacitive winding motor experiments
200 W by ultra-low losts has the advantage of motor self-cooling !
At first from C.O.P. 80 (200+50) /20 000
to 286 ( 20 +50) /20 000
to 333 (10 + 50) /20 000
A coupling from several applications to reach C.O.P. > 1000 ,with heating and or cooling function ,non motive (mechanical movement)
for You,nix85,acceptable ?
Without "occult/esoteric" physics point of view and " If .......,then ......dreamings" ?!
I do not get any "pence" from this NL "heat collector" company,also not from Infinitysav,but when somebody (private/commercial) offers a good/excellent solution I am the last(personal opinion ::) ) to deny and not to use this device/method/process if available (ready-to-use/plan) and being costs-attractive !
Successfull weekend wishing
OCWL
Not as entertaining as you.
"The system COP is > 10, depending on the conditions."
Quote from: nix85 on June 11, 2021, 02:30:30 PM
Not as entertaining as you.
"The system COP is > 10, depending on the conditions."
A C.O.P. ,
"coefficient of work performance" depends ,by conventional heat-pump technology,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coefficient_of_performance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coefficient_of_performance)
The COP usually exceeds 1, especially in heat pumps, because, instead of just converting work to heat (which, if 100% efficient, would be a COP of 1), it pumps additional heat from a heat source to where the heat is required. Less work is required to move heat than for conversion into heat, and because of this, heat pumps, air conditioners and refrigeration systems can be more than 100% efficient.
https://learnmetrics.com/coefficient-of-performance/ (https://learnmetrics.com/coefficient-of-performance/)
Theoretical maximum COP is calculated like this:
COP heat pump = 298K/(298K-287K) =
27,09So, in theory, a heat pump can have a COP even above 20. Nonetheless, the real COP of a heat pump in practice is a lot lower.
from internal thermo-cryo dynamical circuit temperature/pressure
and outside circuit/space/ambient temperature,pressure !
heating out-in /reverse: cooling in-out process parts :
to see here
https://theengineeringmindset.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Heat-pump-schematic-how-a-heat-pump-works.png (https://theengineeringmindset.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Heat-pump-schematic-how-a-heat-pump-works.png)
Have You a fridge: the above circuit is in these cooling box/chamber integrated ,look and understand !
In the NL,there they have in summer up to 30°C positive and in winter up to 20°C negative , 50 °K temperature amplitude/spread !
physical state change = condition-dependence !
"The COP usually exceeds 1, especially in heat pumps, because, instead of just converting work to heat (which, if 100% efficient, would be a COP of 1), it pumps additional heat from a heat source to where the heat is required. Less work is required to move heat than for conversion into heat, and because of this, heat pumps, air conditioners and refigeration systems can be more than 100% efficient."
Great, but why did you mention heat pumps, fridges, they just move heat around, they are no OU devices.
Was it just in your style of crumble everything in, related and unrelated.
Also https://infinitysav.com/centrifugalboiler/ (https://infinitysav.com/centrifugalboiler/) even with C.O.P. 80 ( up to 333) is not OU !
TARGET/MAXIME : the greatest possible return with the least possible effort
Why mentioned ?
Because this technology,in use as refridgerator = mostly common, will be one from the future existent low-e reaching techniques !
Before : how many Wh per annum 2021 each world-habitant non-renewable use ?
After : how many renewable Wh each world-habitant (preview 2100 : 11 000 Mio. citizen) will need/use/has available !?
Kyoto-conference,Kopenhagen,Paris contracts !
Sincere
OCWL
In the future expanding/contracting gas will not be used for cooling/heating, it will be done by night side forces as it was in days of Atlan 13,000 years ago.
Lanca
You need separate section for some of theses things !!
https://infinitysav.com/centrifugalboiler/ (https://infinitysav.com/centrifugalboiler/)
I will remove comment
this is on forum ( here already )??
Maybe bump answer there ( or other
What happened to them ?
A-T-L-A-N ? Who is that ? Remembers me,by name, "The Samurai",Perry Rhodan lecture .
I hope that by reading the audience did not get mutated,like some "Sternenfahrer"-Protagonists !
When You are in contact with him,best greetings !
'Night side forces' or permanent 'day sight forces' to 'night side' by Tesla/Fessenden transmission technology,wireless , in the future .
Sincere
OCWL
Quote from: lancaIV on June 11, 2021, 03:21:17 PM
Also https://infinitysav.com/centrifugalboiler/ (https://infinitysav.com/centrifugalboiler/) even with C.O.P. 80 ( up to 333) is not OU !
This is not ordinary pump or fridge that just moves heat around, this generates 20kWh of heat from 250 watt input, so yea, great OU.
Quote from: nix85 on June 11, 2021, 04:07:37 PM
This is not ordinary pump or fridge that just moves heat around, this generates 20kWh of heat from 250 watt input, so yea, great OU.
Thank You.nix85,for Your statement about " not/OU" ,You make me glad and satisfied and ready for the weekend !
Das Werk ward vollbracht !
Tschuessele,wehrter Member
OCWL
Quote from: lancaIV on June 11, 2021, 04:14:53 PM
Thank You.nix85,for Your statement about " not/OU" ,You make me glad and satisfied and ready for the weekend !
Das Werk ward vollbracht !
Tschuessele,wehrter Member
OCWL
What lol. Are you saying that generating 20kWh of heat with 250w input is not OU?
I am really understanding "nix"( saxonic for : nothing) in the comparison context ,
when 9 KWh heat output bei 1,5 KWh electric input : is not "surplus ratio/OU"
when 20 KWh heat and 200 Wh electric motor and 50 Watth controler input : is " surplus ratio/OU" !
You will have time to answer Your own contradictory statements/comments !
Peace will be with You
OCWL
First of all, for convenience of all the readers, use proper English.
There is nothing contradictory in my statements but you clearly cannot discern between moving heat around and heat GENERATION.
Can you comprehend the essential difference between the two concepts.
If it was one and the same no one would complain about winter electricity bills.
Peace be with you 2 :)
Nix
Proper "English " ?
Lanca is what he is ( probably writes better than me ) ..... however ... what is this "weekend time off" stuff ??
I guarantee the Atlan..iens had no such thing !!
No rest from saving planet ... no days off ( without written submittal 2 weeks notice )
( must find somebody to take place ..)
Also ,
Infinity SAV ... 250 watts in 20kw out ?
No advertising for unproven claims
1st party endorsement, happy users and visit allowed for verification /independent test lab !
Otherwise just gossip column ( comic books)
Fellows,
Just one 1st hand reproducible/ replicatable anomaly!
Just one , thousands of open source replicators would surely clear the bench!
Just one will do
Sincerely
Chet
I'm quite convinced InfinitySav are genuine but of course, that is just my opinion.
But that is not the issue, IF their heater works as claimed that IS OU.
I am not judging lanca for confusing heat exchange with heat generation, many of these concepts are very confusing and mistakes happen.
I for example was fully convinced when starting this thread there is power amplification in LC tank, but it turns out when voltage is amplified current is reduced and vice versa. This is counterintuitive cause in general you can pump energy into resonant system as long as you supply enough to compensate for losses and bit more energy will grow and grow until it explodes just like glass shattered by it's resonant frequency or a swing that you gently push periodically keeps getting ever higher.
Quote from: nix85 on June 11, 2021, 04:20:12 PM
What lol. Are you saying that generating 20kWh of heat with 250w input is not OU?
______________________________________________________
Before you start read the history below watch this :Here is one of first videos about Svobodian Andrey experiments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8uUrjnW5w0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8uUrjnW5w0)
In video below I'm explaining nonsense of closed system expected to create any access energy.
https://youtu.be/4yoxX5ujhig?t=732 (https://youtu.be/4yoxX5ujhig?t=732)
All of us: Tariel Kapanadze and I and my partner in research - we are coupling in process of conversion, into energy source that we don't have to pay for .
But that is no "OU" and no magic. It is Free Energy - means energy that didn't require to be paid for.
______________________________________________________Infinity SAV - Technology described by
nix85History files:
From Koroliovka in Ukraine to Seoul in South Korea, and to the coffin... and than to Macil Group Kenia Africa under name MH-10 Magnetic generator.
Few facts:
In 2011 Tariel Kapanadze after poisoning by some Russians took my advice and was able to be alive for another ~10 years.
Svobodian Andrey Moldovan SAW. died in September 2020 "presumably" from fume of air conditioner.
-But another version is that like most of Russian he was abusing alcohol and died from led acid batteries he was charging.
-The third version is that in Russia despite of all science behind some people in power, may be convinced that
black cat is bad luck or that Svobodian Andrey had a device named by
nick85 "overunity." and that is enough for them...
In 2017 Svobodian Andrey started to experiment with
heat conversion devices.
Here is much much earlier version of German patent application:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Physics_AWT/comments/jggyqz/centrifugal_energy_generator_of_bullenergie_gmbh/
By version of Monarh100 he was from in Ukraine Village Korioliovka near Kiev.
Few words about Svobodian Andrey :
He started to work in Moldova on his project for next 5 years till his death. He tried to work with Russians, but soon he found that
that environment can only destroy projects and expectations.
He moved to South Korea found investor and and build there number of nice looking devices. called
SAVHowever there was no known to me patents or commercial interest.
Two Russian bloggers :
Andrey Tirtha and Monarh 100are fighting till today about Svobodian Andrey also known as Andrey Slobodyan.
Andrey Tirtha supporting every nonsense BS. is just waste of your time if you happened to speak Russian.
Monarh 100 is quite knowledgeable and he is against everything about Svobodian Andrey.
https://youtu.be/MH9Z6kVP8_M?t=221 (https://youtu.be/MH9Z6kVP8_M?t=221) in Russian.Monarh 100 was supported by very valuable educated blogger:
Науч.Студия SERGEY KACHAN (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3qp4yyi1iYYsW55QfuIS0g)(
Scientific Study Sergey Katchan)
additional material:
these videos below contain all of the information but they are in Russian so just skip it :
Все видео о разоблочении вечного двигателя Андрея Слабодяна
All video about the unmasking fake of the perpetual motion machine by Andrey Slabodyan
https://youtu.be/hr1j3fhQOB8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr1j3fhQOB8)
https://youtu.be/vd1EMSgk7DA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd1EMSgk7DA)
https://youtu.be/0E3tfBPYihE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E3tfBPYihE)
https://youtu.be/0YAXaBGBxHs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YAXaBGBxHs)
In 2019 Monarh100 found that Svobodian Andrey falsificated diploma of Russian PhD
For Russia fake is nothing new or nothing uncommon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YAXaBGBxHs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YAXaBGBxHs) ( in Russian)
Андрей Слободян доктор наук, вот это поворот Andrey Slobodyan Doctor of Sciences (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YAXaBGBxHs)
Translation: Andrey Slobodyan Doctor of Sciences, this is a twist .
______________________________________________________
In 2019. we have nice video and promotion :
Infinity SAV Seoul South Korea
https://infinitysav.com/centrifugalboiler/ (https://infinitysav.com/centrifugalboiler/)
and we see some comments:
https://www.electro-tech-online.com/threads/is-this-generator-thing-for-real.157525/here (https://www.electro-tech-online.com/threads/is-this-generator-thing-for-real.157525/here)
-all that is important to us is just a date September 10 2019
This was 1 year till his death.
in this page:
http://infinitysavwa.com/mg10-magnetic-generator/ (http://infinitysavwa.com/mg10-magnetic-generator/)
we see promotion and of a "Generator" that from 2019 was not yet manufactured till today, ..
But all you need is to prepay for it... :)
However when we go to list of products we can't find this generator or any information about it.
https://macilgroup.com/shop/#page-content (https://macilgroup.com/shop/#page-content)
Conclusion:
Some people are naive,
Some others are often called "idiots" in science.
Some of that "idiots" want to look educated so they go to forum and "shine ...."
Some of them are not so much idiots it is just money making them active in trashing level of this forum .
But how come lankaIV was able to be fooled that much to start believe in that nonsense.
How it was possible ?
Simple question lankaIV can you find me just one patent of fake PhD Slobodian Andrey can you.. ?
For example I'm giving you two random patents that have never been approved:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20050173996A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20050173996A1/en)
https://patents.google.com/patent/US7095126B2/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US7095126B2/en)
- just because perpetual motion and OU is not patentable.
Happy preorder: :) https://infinitysav.com/centrifugalboiler/ (https://infinitysav.com/centrifugalboiler/)
and read here:
from word:
Protection
http://infinitysavwa.com/mg10-magnetic-generator/ (http://infinitysavwa.com/mg10-magnetic-generator/)
No patents, just.. BS ,,
opinion expressed is entirely my own.Wesley
If true it's sad such young man died, i doubt he was even 45.
What is wrong with you, stivep1, here you attack OU and anyone "believing" in it, yet your youtube channel is dedicated to promotion of OU.
Are you some kind of double personality in one body or?
InfinitySav magnetic generator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpe6biJDm8o
Andrey's first small device
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Uo092W8hYw
nix85,You are me destroying my freetime (Thanks God,that´s Friday :P : It was so .....) Probably ,now: Saturdays Night Fever ::)
" I am not judging lanca for confusing heat exchange with heat generation, many of these concepts are very confusing and mistakes happen."
Why shall I confuse "heat exchange with heat generation" ?
a heat exchanger -per se- is a ceramic(metal is ceramic) plates/tubes arrangement,electricity-free,eventually coupled with ventilator [/size]
eta or efficiency : <1 or <100%
when You look to the smartbox image below You will understand the physical process :
a heat pump circuit with heat exchanger (+ dehumidifier effect)
https://lirp.cdn-website.com/04f32754/dms3rep/multi/opt/smartbox-960w.jpg (https://lirp.cdn-website.com/04f32754/dms3rep/multi/opt/smartbox-960w.jpg)
https://patents.justia.com/patent/9664404 (https://patents.justia.com/patent/9664404)
The first and the second heat exchanger elements 7 and 8 are included in a Carnot circuit 9, which further contains a compressor 10, an expansion device 11, an evaporator/condensor 7 and a condensor/evaporator 8. To change the direction of the heat flow through the Carnot circuit, a four-way valve 12 is fitted. To change the direction of the medium flow of the Carnot circuit through heat exchanger element 7, a four-way valve 13 is fitted, so that counterflow operation is always possible.
Such a concept I saw circa 15/20 years back for the first time ,developped by a british company named IMI, industrial prize awarded !
house central heating/cooling/air refreshing with outer flowing used warm air stream with incoming colder fresh cold air stream the heat interchange/exchange ,or reverse the stream heat exchange in summer.
And nix85,by Infinitysav their boiler we are treating the medium,an oil,with friction and ( as heat effect :volume gain) compression to get
a. a greater 1 C.O.P. work process b. this claimed C.O.P. 80
probably comparing with C.O.P. 10 claimed "thermal friction boiler Perun " https://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=11161 (https://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=11161)
Think in hand-moved air-pumps (for footballs/soccer ball inflating ) and how fast the air-tube can/is becoming warm/hot !
stivep :
I am sometimes "serious"-fool (in local behaviour : some interestant-nice-fresh girls arround ;) ) but never fooled by Infinitysav or whomelse their products !
I only write that when we see commercial heating/cooling products with conventional drives equipped it is possible to improve these by minimum more than 5 times in their process C.O.P. !
Nothing less and nothing more !
Simple question lankaIV can you find me just one patent of fake PhD Slobodian Andrey can you.. ?
For example I'm giving you two random patents that have never been approved:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20050173996A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20050173996A1/en)
https://patents.google.com/patent/US7095126B2/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US7095126B2/en)
- just because perpetual motion and OU is not patentable.
the first,as seen by number kind : utility model
the second, technical standart application : 2006 granted ::) " and OU is not patentable."
Jesse McQueen
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/038476291/publication/US7095126B2?q=pn%3DUS7095126B (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/038476291/publication/US7095126B2?q=pn%3DUS7095126B2)
Infinitysav listening patents : https://infinitysav.com/patents/
Lanca you wrote this InfinitySav heater is not OU, do you understand that if it works as claimed it has to be OU?
nix85,use the expression free energy !
When Infinitysav by 250 VA electric input reach more than 250 W output heat : fine !
When 250 VA 750 W : conventional heat pump average equivalent
When 250 VA 1250 W : optimal PM-magnet drive heat pump average
When 250 VA 5000 W : ideal T1/2 and ideal heat pump C.O.P. reached
from the old peswiki page : https://peswiki.com/directory:cavitation-heaters (https://peswiki.com/directory:cavitation-heaters) 50-60% over input = 160 % efficiency often claimed !
8000 % ( Prof.Kanarev 3000%) is anextreme !
Probably You know this,or not : https://de.calameo.com/read/004838413975ced7310a8
Quote from: nix85 on June 11, 2021, 08:29:59 PM
What is wrong with you, stivep1, here you attack OU and anyone "believing" in it, yet your youtube channel is dedicated to promotion of OU.
WHAT IS TRUE IN Free Energy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ldus3AQSpE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ldus3AQSpE)
Wesley
LOL, few posts back you were justifying term overunity, now you want me to use term free energy. No, you keep using the term OU.
And why are you now using VA unit for apparent power when we are talking about real power.
Again you are mixing apples and pears. Heat pump COP > 1 simply means it doesn't take much energy to TRANSPORT substantial amount of heat energy. If you are GENERATING heat, than according to convention COP will always be less than 1 cause there are always losses. InfinitySav device is generating heat, according to convention it is not possible to generate 251Wh of energy from 250Wh, let alone 20kWh.
Quote from: nix85 on June 11, 2021, 09:27:05 PM
LOL, few posts back you were justifying term overunity, now you want me to use term free energy. No, you keep using the term OU.
And why are you now using VA unit for apparent power when we are talking about real power.
Again you are mixing apples and pears. Heat pump COP > 1 simply means it doesn't take much energy to TRANSPORT substantial amount of heat energy. If you are GENERATING heat, than according to convention COP will always be less than 1 cause there are always losses. InfinitySav device is generating heat, according to convention it is not possible to generate 251Wh of energy from 250Wh, let alone 20kWh.
I am trying to follow Your expressions,I am so polite ! ::)
We do input Volt x Ampere electrical ( evtl. variable ergo PWM)!
https://infinitysav.com/newinductionboiler/ (https://infinitysav.com/newinductionboiler/) 99% efficient boiler ! C.O.P.<1 ;)
https://infinitysav.com/induction-boiler/ (https://infinitysav.com/induction-boiler/) 98%
https://infinitysav.com/cavitator/ (https://infinitysav.com/cavitator/) 350-400%
This installation consumes 4 times less energy than radiator and other heating systems
https://infinitysav.com/product/boiler-isav/ (https://infinitysav.com/product/boiler-isav/)
At each of three edges compressed oil reaches high pressure and gets injected out of the disk through the nozzles and create jet propulsion. Once oil is injected to the deflectors inside the support panel it drains down back to the tank.
Hot oil inside the tank passes between pipes of the flow heat exchanger exchanging temperature with them.
The flow heat exchanger pipes supply cold water at the input that intake thermal energy from hot oil and withdraw warm water at the output.
The oil after having given away its thermal energy gets cooled and repeats the cycle over and over again generating more and more thermal energy.
Normal oil degenerates fast,we have to assume it is a synthetic oil !
nix85,
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19830330&CC=ZA&NR=823054B&KC=B (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19830330&CC=ZA&NR=823054B&KC=B)
Hence, one can say the REACTOR TO TRANSMUTE THE MATTER is an apparatus to produce calories
For example, if 2,000 cal (two thousand kilo/calories) is introduced in the REACTOR it will be possible to multiply these calories
by 100 (a hundred),
1,000 (a thousand)
and even 100,000 (a hundred thousand)
according to what it is chosen to be used.
Quote from: stivep on June 11, 2021, 08:59:18 PM
WHAT IS TRUE IN Free Energy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ldus3AQSpE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ldus3AQSpE)
Wesley
Semantics aside, the impression i get from your channel is that you believe all these devices, Kapanadze, Akula and other work. So what is your stance.
Quote from: nix85 on June 11, 2021, 09:27:05 PM
LOL, few posts back you were justifying term overunity, now you want me to use term free energy. No, you keep using the term OU.
No this is lie
-
this is your intentional lie.
-and that makes you a lair.Quote from: nix85 on June 11, 2021, 08:29:59 PM
What is wrong with you, stivep1, here you attack OU and anyone "believing" in it, yet your youtube channel is dedicated to promotion of OU.
I'm promoting FE not OU.
WHAT IS TRUE IN Free Energy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ldus3AQSpE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ldus3AQSpE)
Wesley
Quote from: lancaIV on June 11, 2021, 09:38:32 PM
I am trying to follow Your expressions,I am so polite ! ::)
We do input Volt x Ampere electrical ( evtl. variable ergo PWM)!
https://infinitysav.com/newinductionboiler/ (https://infinitysav.com/newinductionboiler/) 99% efficient boiler ! C.O.P.<1 ;)
https://infinitysav.com/induction-boiler/ 98%
You used the term before, so..
That boiler is completely different device working as name says by induction, it has nothing to do with the subject.
So, illuminate us all, how is producing 20kWh of heat using 250w input not OU? :)
Yes,I am polite and accept that photovoltaic cells their output,heat pumps their output( average),windgenerators and waterturbines their output : are OU !
All other kinds of output delivering converter ,if not by experimental teste approved,claims "probably OU or free energy" !
Fine sleep,time for dodot,good night(and later: a good Morning)
OCWL
Quote from: stivep on June 11, 2021, 09:46:06 PM
No this is lie
-this is your intentional lie.
-and that makes you a lair.
I'm promoting FE not OU.
That was addressed to lanca.
QuoteSome of that "idiots" want to look educated so they go to forum and "shine ...."
Some of THOSE idiots, Wesly boi.
Unless proven....we're not talking about validity of their claims, but IF it worked as claimed, then it definitely would be OU.
Quote from: nix85 on June 11, 2021, 10:02:48 PM
That was addressed to lanca.
no that was addressed to you nix85.
Logic is not about words but about sense of your entire writing.
Lies and manipulation is good for highs school.... sometimes... may be in Russia..
Wesley
Quote from: stivep on June 11, 2021, 10:07:24 PM
no that was addressed to you nix85.
Logic is not about words but about sense of your entire writing.
Lies and manipulation is good for highs school.... sometimes... may be in Russia..
Wesley
Understanding English again...
This...
QuoteLOL, few posts back you were justifying term overunity, now you want me to use term free energy. No, you keep using the term OU.
was for lanca
nix85
Don't play games please.
This is not kindergarten...
We obey rules of freedom of speech in this forum, but we are here to have constructive interaction.
Wesley
There is nothing to quote, you replied to something addressed to lanca, like i already wrote 2 times.
Good Morning,
20 000 / 250 = work C.O.P. 80
1- ( 250/20 000)= 0,9875 the process efficiency ,called eta
nix85,You are "dropping" many words into the ring,
the consumer,in search of a energy solution,for his needs,does not interest how this process is called,how microphysically the conversion from a device happens,probably the consumer an analphabet !
Work with plausible,impressive,examples :
there are many commercial/new inventive products claims in efficiency,which by consumer-care organisations physical study does not hold their claims .
This we can take as fact,by this organisation information and comparing own product use experience .
Is a converter OU or free energy or miracle or whatsever to be calling ?
Unimportant !
The device has to reach the result for which it was bought ! Hoping by warranted and longer life-time !
I do not use applications ( hard-/software) because their Trademark,only because their functionality !
When such a centrifugal-boiler like this from Infinitysav works with such a claimed efficiency result : fine !
If not : also fine !
I am not in this company financial invested,nor their employee,so not from their product/s efficiency/claims dependent !
It is sometimes ridiculous,how intensive people defend something and this probably contradictory !
And sometimes positive/negative comments about products are bought ! Own product company worker/family or commercial "product placement" agencies !
With Your "promotion" behaviour You,nix85,even does not help this company Infinitysav and development from a good idea,functionality confirmed,has often a long "ready to market" process steps time,independent from accompaning partners :
Schukey heat engine,anno 70' process patented ,last century ! BMW,VW involved.
When You have a great house with an high warm air conditionig need in cold season so try to get such a heat generator kind ( if not existent : + central heater tube + radiator installation ) and become lucky and cause economical satisfied !
Infinitysav 5000 US$ +X dealer margin + professional all house rooms "central heater parts" installation : 20 000 US$ ?
You do not depend of my meaning !
And to do conversation with You about OU/FE/MIRACLE up to 50 years,2021-2071 : :-\
Sincere
OCWL
p.s.: Kalinowski " Foldable Portable Building" : claimed 60 sqm commercial price : 15 000 US$
probably a 5 KW centrifugal-boiler in need ,price range(all included) 2000 US$ MAX !
Quote from: lancaIV on June 12, 2021, 06:17:53 AM
Good Morning,
20 000 / 250 = work C.O.P. 80
1- ( 250/20 000)= 0,9875 the process efficiency ,called eta
nix85,You are "dropping" many words into the ring,
the consumer,in search of a energy solution,for his needs,does not interest how this process is called,how microphysically the conversion from a device happens,probably the consumer an analphabet !
Work with plausible,impressive,examples..
Again you are pushing this nonsense that generating 20kW of heat using 250W input is 98% efficiency.
No, it's 8000% efficiency.
I don't care for semantics, OU or FE, but FE is commonly understood to cover solar, wind, tide and similar energy sources, so sticking to OU is more appropriate.
I have not a problem with the term " efficiency" !
Is for You this term fixed defind ?
When a windgenerator is 60% efficient,its efficiency by Physics view : 60% from ideal 59,5% = ?
When a reversible heat/cold engine is 80% efficient,its efficieny is 80% from "ideal 1" = ?
1 .Betz-limit 2.Carnot-limit
Energy= Exergy + Anergy
Question : how much cold water,by which temperature,has to be introduced per min./sec. to the centrifugal-boiler system,to get this C.O.P. 80 hot/cold : 1 - eta result ,eta = Carnot-Wirkungsgrad efficiency ,better for not
misunderstatement with common used " expression" ,as seen here :
CARNOT FACTOR
1-eta= Tmax/Tmin
heat reservoir/cold reservoir spread or tension number
You do have a problem with it if you claim 8000% efficiency is 98% efficiency.
No,8000% is 98% Carnot-factor efficiency ! ( for this specific Infinitysav claim,not geral ! ::) )
Do not accuse me,discuss with Physics determination and experimenting Physicians/Engineers/Technicians
about abstract/concret terms use !
Nonsense,non sense ! No emotion,no feelings !
You are still pushing the nonsense.
Finally understand the difference between heat transfer and heat generation.
If you generate 20kwh of heat from 250wh that is 8000% efficiency.
This is not a heat pump so you used 250wh to transport heat from some heat source, you generate the energy in the centrifugal boiler itself.
I am not accusing you, i am just saying do not claim it's not OU when it is.
http://www.rexresearch.com/hensonsihsb/henson.html (http://www.rexresearch.com/hensonsihsb/henson.html)
High C.O.P. ,OU,but not and never CARNOT-FACTOR-1 OU
and with heat transfer(f.e. as laser light ) and heat generation
Finitum with mental gambling
wmbr
OCWL
p.s. : https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/Physik (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/Physik)
Physik,Physics in Suaheli : fizikia
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympische_Spiele_der_Antike
body,mind and soul games
https://www.worldhistory.org/article/205/the-pythia---priestess-of-ancient-delphi/
https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/apologise ::)
Quote from: nix85 on June 12, 2021, 07:19:30 AM
Again you are pushing this nonsense that generating 20kW of heat using 250W input is 98% efficiency.
No, it's 8000% efficiency.
nix85.
You have certain brain capacity and you discussing some good physics.
I assume you know that it is you, who is pushing all of that nonsense.
But question reminds open , why?
_______________________________
One of possible conclusions is that you are being paid for that nonsense by some troll entity.
That would explain why someone decided to
fly so low._________________________________
You had no chance to graduate with all of that BS any college in Civilized Western World .
But outside of it , yes.. you can become the same "PhD" like Slobodan Andrey .
Wesley
Quote from: lancaIV on June 12, 2021, 08:46:36 AM
http://www.rexresearch.com/hensonsihsb/henson.html (http://www.rexresearch.com/hensonsihsb/henson.html)
High C.O.P. ,OU,but not and never CARNOT-FACTOR-1 OU
and with heat transfer(f.e. as laser light ) and heat generation
Finitum with mental gambling
wmbr
OCWL
p.s. : https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/Physik
PHysics in Suaheli : fizikia[/font][/size]
"The Carnot efficiency has little practical value. It is a maximum theoretical efficiency of a hypothetical engine."
We are talking real energy GAIN, not some hypothetical machine that cannot be built.
Quote from: stivep on June 12, 2021, 08:56:30 AM
nix85.
You have certain brain capacity and you discussing some good physics.
I assume you know that it is you, who is pushing all of that nonsense.
But question reminds open , why?
_______________________________
One of possible conclusions is that you are being paid for that nonsense by some troll entity.
That would explain why someone decided to fly so low.
_________________________________
You had no chance to graduate with all of that BS any college in Civilized Western World .
But outside of it , yes.. you can become the same "PhD" like Slobodan Andrey .
Wesley
Honestly, at the same time, i highly doubt your brain capacity. Here you claim all these devices, call them FE or OU doesn't matter, are bunk, yet your channel is dedicated to promotion of those same machines. Who is the shill, who is the troll here, who is flying so low his face is plowing the soil and getting his mouth stuffed with dirt and worms.
Not to mention you never addressed the 4th law of motion etc.
I want you to address the 4th law of motion, enough of dodging.
Quote from: nix85 on June 12, 2021, 09:05:42 AM
"The Carnot efficiency has little practical value. It is a maximum theoretical efficiency of a hypothetical engine."
We are talking real energy GAIN, not some hypothetical machine that cannot be built.
::) "The Carnot efficiency has little practical value. It is a maximum theoretical efficiency of a hypothetical engine."
IT IS THE NON-PLUS-ULTRA SCALE : 100% ,also and ever for You,nix85
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.ise.fraunhofer.de/de/presse-und-medien/presseinformationen/2017/gestiegene-effizienz-feldtests-bestaetigen-potenzial-von-waermepumpen-als-wichtigster-heiztechnik-der-zukunft.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.ise.fraunhofer.de/de/presse-und-medien/presseinformationen/2017/gestiegene-effizienz-feldtests-bestaetigen-potenzial-von-waermepumpen-als-wichtigster-heiztechnik-der-zukunft.html)
their Maximum= IDEAL orientation
Nicola Tesla,DAIKIN,PANASONIC/MITSUBISHI,CARRIER, and other inventive persons or companies ( in laboratory and market)
break-
even https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://studyflix.de/ingenieurwissenschaften/energiebilanz-526 (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://studyflix.de/ingenieurwissenschaften/energiebilanz-526)
external + internal energy researcher :
https://patents.google.com/patent/EP1841544A2 (https://patents.google.com/patent/EP1841544A2)
description statement :
Therefore the ratio between the
air kinetic energy to the
air internal energy in this case is: 3,201.6/2,952,000= 0.00108,
i.e., the kinetic energy is about one thousandth of the air internal energy
and this case is for the maximum operable air speed for the sophisticated 2 MW air turbine.
Weaker winds yield even smaller energy ratios.
centrifugal-boiler / airpower turbine chamber direction flow : centrifugal or centipetal , ... and .... (turbulent and/or laminar) !?
Use of air ( edit: or other moveable medium) internal energy and devices
for Infinitysav max possible in/out results research,with oil as fluid,here air:
Wind kinetic energy can be expressed mathematically by this formula: Eκ= P X V X A X V2 /2
Where V is the air speed p is the air density
Surprisingly, natural wind air ( artificial oil flow ?)
has huge amount of energy (called "internal" energy) compared to its kinetic energy even at freezing temperature.
To realize this statement, one must look at equation of energy for isentropic compressible flow for a unit mass: CpT + V
2/2=const (Eq. 24 Ref. Book P140)
Since the centrifugal force of the blade is: F=Jω
2 R dm,
G> is the rotational speed
R is the local radius of mass element of the propeller blade dm is a differential mass element of the propeller blade
The rotation speed of the rotor is an important factor to get high output power since the power is equal to the multiplication of direct force multiply by speed, i.e.: P= F x V.
Thus the air speed at the throat 114 is 221.9 FT/SEC, which is 221.9/21.737 =
10.2 times faster than the airflow speed at section 110.
Therefore we get airflow having 104 times more kinetic energy in section 114 compared to section 110.
This huge increase of kinetic energy is the major aspect of the invention. Since no external forces was implied on the airflow in the nozzle, some of the airflow internal energy of section 110, i.e.: ΔTx Cp= (492-488.15) x 6000. has been converted into kinetic energy, i.e.: V
2]
sll4/2 - V
2] sπo/2= (221.9
2-21.737
2)/2 and this is the major aspect of the invention.
nix85,You will need and use this : https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/reynolds-number#:~:text=Reynolds%20number%20(Rn)%20is%20defined,L%20is%20a%20typical%20length (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/reynolds-number#:~:text=Reynolds%20number%20(Rn)%20is%20defined,L%20is%20a%20typical%20length).
by Infinitysav oil movement efficiency research
10.2 times faster
when 2 times faster = 8 times the output energy then 10,2 times faster .......
cube/inverse cube law
Quote from: lancaIV on June 12, 2021, 09:15:23 AM
::) "The Carnot efficiency has little practical value. It is a maximum theoretical efficiency of a hypothetical engine."
IT IS THE NON-PLUS-ULTRA SCALE : 100% ,also and ever for You,nix85
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.ise.fraunhofer.de/de/presse-und-medien/presseinformationen/2017/gestiegene-effizienz-feldtests-bestaetigen-potenzial-von-waermepumpen-als-wichtigster-heiztechnik-der-zukunft.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.ise.fraunhofer.de/de/presse-und-medien/presseinformationen/2017/gestiegene-effizienz-feldtests-bestaetigen-potenzial-von-waermepumpen-als-wichtigster-heiztechnik-der-zukunft.html)
their Maximum= IDEAL orientation
Nicola Tesla,DAIKIN,PANASONIC/MITSUBISHI,CARRIER, and other inventive persons or companies ( in laboratory and market)
break-even
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://studyflix.de/ingenieurwissenschaften/energiebilanz-526
"The Carnot efficiency has little practical value. It is a maximum theoretical efficiency of a hypothetical engine."
You find that quote funny? Maybe you should do some more reading. :)
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/carnot-efficiency#:~:text=Carnot%20process%20efficiency.,the%20heat%20transfer%20to%20occur.
"Fuel Cell Basic Chemistry and Thermodynamics
Frano Barbir, in PEM Fuel Cells (Second Edition), 2013
2.8 Carnot Efficiency Myth
Carnot efficiency is the maximum efficiency that a heat engine may have operating between the two temperatures (Figure 2-7).
"The Carnot efficiency has little practical value. It is a maximum theoretical efficiency of a hypothetical engine. Even if such an engine could be constructed, it would have to be operated at infinitesimally low velocities to allow the heat transfer to occur. It would be very efficient, but it would generate no power (Figure 2-8), and thus it would be useless."Also, Carnot engine is by definition NOT an OU device. It simply means ALL input energy would be converted to work, but not more than input energy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBCBAgSQAlI&ab_channel=UNSWPhysicsUNSWPhysics
OFC you keep pushing the unrelated shenanigans as usual.
:) Okay, Also, Carnot engine is by definition NOT an OU device. It is exactly COP 1 device. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic2Cjw7kydI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic2Cjw7kydI) I am the SKAT-man in SKAT-mens world ::)
Mog net SKAT ! Und komisch,irgendwie "vorgefertigt" Ihre Antworten,nix85,zu schnelle Reaktion !
Fuet Di
OCWL
Not COP 1, how quickly you grabbed onto it like a desperate dog :)
Efficiency of 100% which is usually equated to COP1.
Again, we are not talking about heat transfer but heat (energy) generation.
Point being you, Scatman, claimed 8000% EFFICIENCY is 98% efficiency :) :) :)
Let's never forget that.
Quote from: nix85 on June 12, 2021, 09:09:08 AM
Honestly, at the same time, i highly doubt your brain capacity. Here you claim all these devices, call them FE or OU doesn't matter, are bunk, yet your channel is dedicated to promotion of those same machines. Who is the shill, who is the troll here, who is flying so low his face is plowing the soil and getting his mouth stuffed with dirt and worms.
Not to mention you never addressed the 4th law of motion etc.
I want you to address the 4th law of motion, enough of dodging.
Typical action or strategy carefully planned to achieve a specific end is used by Russian Troll entity known as:
The
Internet Research Agency https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency)
of Yevgeny Prigozhin.
My wife has better education than Mr Putin President of Russia - from one of best
European universes ( psychology)Let me explain it to the audience using her adviceText below is from former troll whom I helped to emigrate to USA
and this was part of his education. 1. never answer questions you have no answer for.
a - ignore them - derail logical path
2. respond to the the question with your own question
3. respond with attack instead of addressing the question.
a - when attacking add another element like:
e.g
"you never addressed the 4th law of motion"4. repeat the same offense many times using different phrases.
______________________________________________________analysis of nix85:
- most of questions (from point #1) have never been answered or/and were derailed ( point 1b)
- your attack (according to point #3) is evident look at your text from above.
- you derailing logical path (point #1b)
- you adding additional element (point #3a)
- you repeating the same offense saying that my channel and I support and promote OU despite the fact that I
answered you already few times that I don't.
Look at the first one minute of this video again:
WHAT IS TRUE IN Free Energy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ldus3AQSpE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ldus3AQSpE)
______________________________________________________Dear nick85:
Here is analysis of your behavioral pattern in this forum:
- in regards point 2
when nick 85 "responds to the question with his own question
most likely he will get answer - even if nick 85 has no idea how to answer
- in regards point 3.
when nick 85 attacks instead of answering to the question.
This is natural mechanism:
One child says : -"why you are dirty?"
and the other child responds
-"you are more dirty and I have better backpack .."
-in regards point 4.
lie repeated many times becomes "the truth"
this is how commercial advertising and branding work.
______________________________________________________Summary:1. I support conservative physics
2. Overunity and perpetual motion doesn't exist
3. I support Energy for Free called FE.
a.- energy that doesn't require to be paid for.
b.-energy we can couple to in process of conversion.
opinion expressed is entirely my ownWesley
What an hypocrite you are, that is EXACTLY what you are doing.
Dodging questions with unrelated questions, accusations (ad-hominems), being illogical and paradoxical (intentionally insisting on irrelevant semantic issue of OU vs FE), doing anything except one thing...answering the question in scientific and polite manner.
So i ask you again to address the 4th law of motion which defines conversion of centrifugal force into linear acceleration as so:
Any unbalanced mass oscillating in 180° or less or spining 360° with varying speed, produces pure linear acceleration.
Stop dodging and projecting and adhominems, answer scientifically.
Do you claim this law is "nonsense"?
STIVEP1, IS INERTIAL PROPULSION NONSENSE?
Quote from: nix85 on June 12, 2021, 10:41:38 AM
What an hypocrite you are, that is EXACTLY what you are doing.
As you have noticed there is plenty of links and quotes to almost every answer it was provided to you.
You responded to my comment from above with no links and quotes supporting your attack.But you adding more demands for me to respond.
That is called change of logical path
https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg558461/#msg558461 (https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg558461/#msg558461)
look at point 1a.
______________________________ I said in https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg558326/#msg558326 (https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg558326/#msg558326)
QuoteI'm not your enemy.
But how do you know that?
And this is truth.
I don't have negative emotion, nor disrespect you.
Think about me like about mechanism with keyboard.
You can predict my response based on your keyboard keystrokes.
No matter how you try I will not respond to you with nice bottle of Russian Vodka
Wesley
nix85
" Point being you(, No,excuse-moi,je ne sais pas :Scatman,) claimed 8000% EFFICIENCY is 98% Carnot-factor efficiency
Let's never forget that. "!
I do not forget it
How many times You want a repeat on the imaginary overunity.com e-paper-wall repeated ?
Ever good,especially related " do not forget it" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ47gksnesc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ47gksnesc)
Not COP 1, how quickly you grabbed onto it like a desperate dog ( "how quickly" : billige,einfaltsarme , Retourkutsche ! :D )
https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/dlattach/attach/181857/image// (https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/dlattach/attach/181857/image//)
Typical swim cap or bridal jewelry in Your living wuw-wuw-wau-wauuuuuuuuuu zone ?
Miao-Miao
OCWL
p.s.: the "Carnot engine" is,like Maxwells/Laplaces Demon,an imaginary process !
You can it understand,You must it not understand ::)
I think Your inner inner pig-dog splitted the relationship and the dog left Your body (wauuuuuuuuuuu)
More dodging. You are trying to make it look as if asking about inertial propulsion is trolling. That's just pathetic.
No more dodging, declare your stance on this physical principle.
When You nix85 deliver a reference like this
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/carnot-efficiency (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/carnot-efficiency)
I compare with this 1974 DE patent office granted standart :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?AB=&AP=&CPC=&DB=EPODOC&IC=&IN=matei+marinescu&PA=&PD=&PN=&PR=&ST=advanced&Submit=Search&TI=&bcId=1&locale=en_EP&page=0&return=true (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?AB=&AP=&CPC=&DB=EPODOC&IC=&IN=matei+marinescu&PA=&PD=&PN=&PR=&ST=advanced&Submit=Search&TI=&bcId=1&locale=en_EP&page=0&return=true)
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19770802&CC=US&NR=4039352A&KC=A
or
by him,F.B.,his oeuvre
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=francis+bichowsky&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=francis+bichowsky&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search)
this : fuel cell related,1949 filed
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=22&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19530421&CC=US&NR=2635431A&KC=A (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=22&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19530421&CC=US&NR=2635431A&KC=A)
And You have to learn Physics § understanding,because it is contradictory
(probably not in "Fuel Cell Basic Chemistry and Thermodynamics Frano Barbir, in PEM Fuel Cells (Second Edition), 2013 as researcher interest and will)
to deny Carnot importance and by other hands use the Carnot-formula as efficiency frame
https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/3-s2.0-B9780123877109000023-f02-08-9780123877109.jpg (https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/3-s2.0-B9780123877109000023-f02-08-9780123877109.jpg)
Hopefully there is no more confusion between heat transport and generation.
(actio/reactio) superposition
Such a chain has in the absence of any temperature gradient, an efficiency near unity.
Such a chain has in the absence of any temperature gradient, an heat transport and electricity generation efficiency near unity.
temperature is : .......
heat is : .......
gradient is : ......
Francis Russell (v.)Bichowsky died early,with 52 years (1889-1951)
https://www.nytimes.com/1951/04/06/archives/dr-f-bichowsky-research-chemist-critic-of-navy-gunnery-expert-on.html (https://www.nytimes.com/1951/04/06/archives/dr-f-bichowsky-research-chemist-critic-of-navy-gunnery-expert-on.html)
https://books.google.pt/books?id=o1XVCgAAQBAJ&pg=PA607&lpg=PA607&dq=Francis+russell+von+bichowski&source=bl&ots=KyDVsJZ9p6&sig=ACfU3U33-GecxO0fk3bFxLAcIrcy7NUA7A&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiP1ebS85LxAhWLasAKHYjgBfMQ6AEwDXoECBMQAw#v=onepage&q=Francis%20russell%20von%20bichowski&f=false
https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/212063409.pdf (https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/212063409.pdf) 1918 received ( so with 29 years written by F.R.B.)
http://www.poles.org/db/B_names/Bichowski_FR.html
Matei Marinescu https://www.edusoft.ro/matei-marinescu-corifeu-al-ingineriei-romane/ (https://www.edusoft.ro/matei-marinescu-corifeu-al-ingineriei-romane/)
Simple question : when becomes an infrared radiation heat ?
at first : http://www.energie-innovation.com/astro_foil.html (http://www.energie-innovation.com/astro_foil.html)
It is in the nature of the pure, (99.9%) aluminum surfaces of ASTRO-FOIL to reflect 97% of the radiant heat waves that strikes its surface.
other Infrared waves reflector information :
http://www.radiantbarrier.com/resources-articles-how-radiant-barrier-works-heat-gain-loss/#:~:text=The%20surface%20of%20aluminum%20has,of%20the%20rays%20are%20absorbed.&text=The%20absorption%20rate%20of%20your%20face%20is%2099%25 (http://www.radiantbarrier.com/resources-articles-how-radiant-barrier-works-heat-gain-loss/#:~:text=The%20surface%20of%20aluminum%20has,of%20the%20rays%20are%20absorbed.&text=The%20absorption%20rate%20of%20your%20face%20is%2099%25).
The surface of aluminum has the ability not to absorb, but to reflect 95% of the infrared rays which strike it.
Since aluminum foil has such a low mass to air ratio, very little conduction can take place, particularly when only 5% of the rays are absorbed.
Each kitchen aluminium foil ergo ! https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2215017X1930373X (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2215017X1930373X)
(Trademark/company independent)
Ceiling and roof materials and exposed structural members have an emissivity that may be as high as 0.9. Special aluminum paint can lower the emissivity to between 0.5 and 0.2. Polished metal such as polished aluminum or aluminum foil has an emissivity of 0.05.
Magnesium foil mass to air ratio ?
Titanium foil mass to air ratio ?
next statement :
All the objects in an enclosed structure give off (emit) radiant heat waves, exchanging them with the other objects and wall/ceiling surfaces.
The walls and ceilings will absorb the radiant heat waves, converting them to conductive heat that can then pass through the wall system to the cooler outside environment. The job of mass insulation is to slow down that heat transfer by resisting its flow.
emitts radiant heat waves or emitts radiant waves,which transforms to heat in a this wave absorbing objekt
The amount of radiation emitted is a function of the emissivity factor of the source's surface. Emissivity is the rate at which radiation (emission) is given off. Absorption of radiation by an object is proportional to the absorptivity factor of its surface which is reciprocal of its emissivity.
By reflecting the radiant heat waves, the foil surface remains relatively cool, leaving very little heat to be absorbed and conducted through the surface to the cooler outside of the building.
But from Astro-foil the most impressive statement : IR-waves have no temperature !
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared#:~:text=Infrared%20(IR)%2C%20sometimes%20called,invisible%20to%20the%20human%20eye.&text=Black%2Dbody%20radiation%20from%20objects,almost%20all%20at%20infrared%20wavelengths (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared#:~:text=Infrared%20(IR)%2C%20sometimes%20called,invisible%20to%20the%20human%20eye.&text=Black%2Dbody%20radiation%20from%20objects,almost%20all%20at%20infrared%20wavelengths).
Boltzmann black body view or white body view
A comparison of a thermal image (top) and an ordinary photograph (bottom). The plastic bag is mostly transparent to long-wavelength infrared, but the man's glasses are opaque.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/44/Human-Infrared.jpg/200px-Human-Infrared.jpg (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/44/Human-Infrared.jpg/200px-Human-Infrared.jpg)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/Human-Visible.jpg/160px-Human-Visible.jpg (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/Human-Visible.jpg/160px-Human-Visible.jpg)
Materials with higher emissivity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emissivity) appear closer to their true temperature than materials that reflect more of their different-temperature surroundings. In this thermal image, the more reflective ceramic cylinder, reflecting the cooler surroundings, appears to be colder than its cubic container (made of more emissive silicon carbide), while in fact, they have the same temperature.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/67/Effect_of_emissivity_on_apparent_temperature.jpg/220px-Effect_of_emissivity_on_apparent_temperature.jpg (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/67/Effect_of_emissivity_on_apparent_temperature.jpg/220px-Effect_of_emissivity_on_apparent_temperature.jpg)
Heating
One energy advantage is that the IR energy heats only opaque objects, such as food, rather than the air around them
Cooling
A variety of technologies or proposed technologies take advantage of infrared emissions to cool buildings or other systems. The LWIR (8–15 μm) region is especially useful since some radiation at these wavelengths can escape into space through the atmosphere.
No temperature,but IR cools or heats
movement or spin versus/compared temperature
Heat (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat) is energy in transit that flows due to a temperature difference. Unlike heat transmitted by thermal conduction (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_conduction) or thermal convection (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_convection), thermal radiation can propagate through a vacuum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum).
Thermal radiation is characterized by a particular spectrum of many wavelengths that are associated with emission from an object,
due to the vibration of its molecules at a given temperature.
https://www.univie.ac.at/geographie/fachdidaktik/FD/site/external_htmls/imagers.gsfc.nasa.gov/ems/infrared.html (https://www.univie.ac.at/geographie/fachdidaktik/FD/site/external_htmls/imagers.gsfc.nasa.gov/ems/infrared.html)
the planet Earth : https://www.univie.ac.at/geographie/fachdidaktik/FD/site/external_htmls/imagers.gsfc.nasa.gov/ems/earthir.jpg (https://www.univie.ac.at/geographie/fachdidaktik/FD/site/external_htmls/imagers.gsfc.nasa.gov/ems/earthir.jpg)
anymore blue,but violett https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violett (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violett)
red blood + blue blood
Input 250w output 20kw = 8000% efficiency. All that matters.
Quote from: nix85 on June 12, 2021, 12:10:36 PM
More dodging. You are trying to make it look as if asking about inertial propulsion is trolling. That's just pathetic.
No more dodging, declare your stance on this physical principle.
No my friend.
but first let me address some of your previous questions:
You ask me what is my interest in physics:
Here is the answer:
https://youtu.be/7Ldus3AQSpE?t=766 (https://youtu.be/7Ldus3AQSpE?t=766)
And here is another one:
https://youtu.be/QHBEHOOsxT4 (https://youtu.be/QHBEHOOsxT4)
watch only ~3 minutes of each video.
_____________________________________________Here is some of my work:1.https://youtu.be/izzujmKROWI?t=159 (https://youtu.be/izzujmKROWI?t=159)
2.https://youtu.be/k2PJVIkyW5Y?t=33 (https://youtu.be/k2PJVIkyW5Y?t=33)
3.https://youtu.be/A_cJDvtcAxE?t=966 (https://youtu.be/A_cJDvtcAxE?t=966)
4.https://youtu.be/YrRc-xieWjE?t=703 (https://youtu.be/YrRc-xieWjE?t=703)
5.https://youtu.be/Mn8TLBsR3r0?t=410Your questions are not silly or stupid.
And there is nothing wrong with questioning dear nix85.
but first this:
Quote from: nix85 on June 09, 2021, 07:29:35 PM
No one cares about your titles, i simply referred to your supposed 30 years of physics experience yet, you are ignorant of even the most basic
// isn't it ironic that you dare to crown yourself with such title//
// material physics is inferior to Spiritual Physics. //
//Bunch of pulp again. There is God, our most inner Self beyond Mind//
And who are you to question OU
So now can you show me similar material about yourself? any experiments?
any youtube?
anything?
My friend : when you start to provide answers to the extend similar with my previous answers than we have platform for conversation.
So answer my questions first. (right from above.
) and provide expected material.
Wesley
And more dodging.
It's a yes or no question.
Is inertial propulsion nonsense, stivep1?
nix85,read about "magnetic electron" ,by Bichowski and Urey disclosure,and think :
https://books.google.pt/books?id=o1XVCgAAQBAJ&pg=PA607&lpg=PA607&dq=Francis+russell+von+bichowski&source=bl&ots=KyDVsJZ9p6&sig=ACfU3U33-GecxO0fk3bFxLAcIrcy7NUA7A&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiP1ebS85LxAhWLasAKHYjgBfMQ6AEwDXoECBMQAw#v=onepage&q=Francis%20russell%20von%20bichowski&f=false (https://books.google.pt/books?id=o1XVCgAAQBAJ&pg=PA607&lpg=PA607&dq=Francis+russell+von+bichowski&source=bl&ots=KyDVsJZ9p6&sig=ACfU3U33-GecxO0fk3bFxLAcIrcy7NUA7A&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiP1ebS85LxAhWLasAKHYjgBfMQ6AEwDXoECBMQAw#v=onepage&q=Francis%20russell%20von%20bichowski&f=false)
Doppler-Effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppler_effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppler_effect)
( the "4th law of motion" does not exist by Newton ,only 1.,2.,3., Axiomatic Laws ! Superposition : like to see as !)
I don't need to read anything to know electron is a deformation of a magnetic field, wave, not a particle.
I know what doppler effect is.
Quote from: nix85 on June 12, 2021, 04:21:13 PM
I don't need to read anything to know electron is a deformation of a magnetic field, wave, not a particle.
I know what doppler effect is.
Fine,also the Minkowski-Dimension https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativistic_Doppler_effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativistic_Doppler_effect)
and clearly,in combination : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiedemann%E2%80%93Franz_law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiedemann%E2%80%93Franz_law)
Really : " to know electron is a deformation of a magnetic field " ?
particle-wave or photon-wave
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wien%27s_displacement_law
Yes, deformation of magnetic field.
I highly recommend you to read what some our solar neighbours have to say about science..
I myself used to
wonder where these electrons came from.
They must have come from somewhere, but where?
They do not come from anywhere, they were generated within the magnetic field.
How? They are the result of a deformation brought about within the magnetic field
by the movement of the rotor.
Supposing we take this generator and enclose it in an airtight vessel, we still get a
flow of electrons as soon as we start the rotor turning, and if we had a pressure
gauge inside the vessel we would see that in spite of the large current flowing
between the two conductors, the atmospheric pressure would remain the same. This
being the case, we can define the electron as deformed magnetic space, propagated
in wave form. An eloquent proof that the electron is a wave form and not a particle
is obtained by refracting it through a spectrum.
There is an experiment that Earth scientists have done to prove this: a gamma ray (a
gamma ray is of electro-magnetic origin), when passing close to a nucleus, pulls an
electron away with it. It is true that the moment of inertia of the gamma ray is
changed. To explain this phenomenon they devised the rather thin hypothesis that
the ray's acceleration was transformed into energy, but it is absurd to believe that
the moment of inertia of a vector in space could be transformed into energy.
There is a relationship between energy and the force that imparts acceleration to a
body, but only a certain relationship. Water activates a turbine, but the gravitational
force which activated the water could never be turned into electrical energy.
All that happened then was that the rotor moved inside the generator and caused a
deformation of the magnetic space. The deformation that the points M' of the mass
M of the rotor brought about in the magnetic field corresponds to the force of
gravity in the water in a turbine.
If it is absurd to say that a vector moment creates energy, it would be even worse to
say that this moment generates matter, in other words that an electron is a particle.
The only rational explanation is that a gamma ray, being of electromagnetic origin,
deformed itself for an instant near the nucleus and from this deformation an
electron was created which must therefore be a charge of wave form........
...In the first instance God supplied the power that brings about the deformation of
space and the Sun, by an opposite process, turns it back into energy, thus reestablishing the balance.
Everything comes from God and everything returns to
Him.
That is why neither matter nor energy exist, but only deformed space, which is
called matter, and what you call energy is nothing more than a phenomenon of
transition between primordial space and deformed space.
https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Dino%20Kraspedon%20-%20My%20Contact%20With%20Flying%20Saucers.pdf
Argument : http://www.quantumphysicslady.org/what-is-the-difference-between-an-electron-and-a-photon/ (http://www.quantumphysicslady.org/what-is-the-difference-between-an-electron-and-a-photon/)
Photons have neither negative nor positive charge. They are not matter and have no mass. They travel the speed of light when in a vacuum like in outer space (which is not a complete vacuum, really). But they can travel much slower when traveling through a medium like water or even air.
Photons and electrons interact to create flows of electricity. Both are involved. Electricity is not merely a flow of electrons in a wire; it is also a flow of photons in an electromagnetic wave.
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klein-Gordon-Gleichung
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter#:~:text=In%20classical%20physics%20and%20general,up%20space%20by%20having%20volume.&text=Usually%20atoms%20can%20be%20imagined,which%20%22take%20up%20space%22 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter#:~:text=In%20classical%20physics%20and%20general,up%20space%20by%20having%20volume.&text=Usually%20atoms%20can%20be%20imagined,which%20%22take%20up%20space%22).
In classical physics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_physics) and general chemistry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemistry), matter is any substance that has mass (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass) and takes up space by having volume (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volume).
compared Your article sentence :
This being the case, we can define the electron as deformed magnetic space, propagated
in wave form.
Photon : They are not matter and have no mass.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nucleon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nucleon)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave%E2%80%93particle_duality (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave%E2%80%93particle_duality)
I'm aware mainstream paradigm thinks electron is "matter" and photon is not, but what is matter but standing waves. Collide two gamma rays and you'll get electron and positron. Also calling electron negative is arbitrary, it is negative relative to proton cause it is 1836 times smaller, it's gravitational field is much weaker than proton's gravitational field (vortex). Keep in mind everything is ultimately made of very very tiny NEUTRAL bubbles of energy, no polarity in them AT-ALL, so is something positive or negative is just function of size and direction of vortexial flow of these neutral bubbles. These neutral bubbles that make up everything cascade from the Godhead being smallest and most numerous at the source level, then by ratio of 49 they condense into ever larger bubbles that form smallest bubbles of lower planes, this goes on on all 7 great cosmic planes and ratio below is given just for our, lowest of 7 cosmic planes.
concret or abstract by conventional quantum physics theorem ( with opposition)
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantentheorie_der_Ur-Alternativen
Lanca kilometer links again
Quote from: nix85 on June 12, 2021, 05:04:24 PM
Lanca kilometer links again
Please,if links evaluating then in Micro-Grams Plasma ::)
https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/science-blog/other-side-big-bang (https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/science-blog/other-side-big-bang)
There is an inversion of "chirality", meaning objects that look right-handed in our universe, will emerge left-handed on the other side.
Initial work has shown that thermodynamic quantities like entropy (which determine, for example, how refrigerators work, and the heat we get from the sun) are also inverted, so someone who lived in this universe would experience time that ran the opposite way to our own (https://qz.com/596514/its-possible-that-there-is-a-mirror-universe-where-time-moves-backwards-say-scientists/).
::) Ok, keep making a mess but you are degrading reading experience for all.
https://qz.com/596514/its-possible-that-there-is-a-mirror-universe-where-time-moves-backwards-say-scientists/ (https://qz.com/596514/its-possible-that-there-is-a-mirror-universe-where-time-moves-backwards-say-scientists/)
BACK TO THE FUTURE ;)
I wrote few times before..
"Each time axis is oscillating in place, time moves not, fact known for centuries in occult cosmology, but each universe out of each matter-antimatter universe pair, like a diode or a sprocket wheel captures just oscillations in one direction, thus matter and antimatter times diverge, something known even to mainstream physics."
CONTACTEE CASE FROM ANTIMATTER UNIVERSE
https://rune.galactic.to/koldaskonc.html
" .... we travel in TIME " ( Skatman and Hatman " ......")
" .... we travel in Zeit "
" ....we travel in Traumzeit " (Etymology)
:)
Some calls it also Phantasy(Space) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic2Cjw7kydI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic2Cjw7kydI)
With endless RAUM and ZEIT
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/World_line-de.svg/250px-World_line-de.svg.png (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/World_line-de.svg/250px-World_line-de.svg.png)
https://atelier-zeitglas.ch/wp-content/uploads/ZEITGLAS_bymoduleplus_1536_DSC1536_web-1-e1601381650681-750x525.jpg (https://atelier-zeitglas.ch/wp-content/uploads/ZEITGLAS_bymoduleplus_1536_DSC1536_web-1-e1601381650681-750x525.jpg)
T(heta)-RAUM -ZEIT
# 147 : Helena P.Blavatsky,Theosophy ( comme si,comme sa - from Ure view point) ;)
https://blavatskytheosophy.com/mysteries-of-the-astral-body/ (https://blavatskytheosophy.com/mysteries-of-the-astral-body/)
https://theosophy.wiki/en/The_Secret_Doctrine_(book (https://theosophy.wiki/en/The_Secret_Doctrine_(book))
https://theosophy.wiki/en/Albert_Einstein (https://theosophy.wiki/en/Albert_Einstein)
https://www.filosofiaesoterica.com/the-theosophy-of-albert-einstein/ (https://www.filosofiaesoterica.com/the-theosophy-of-albert-einstein/)
https://theosophy.wiki/en/Manas#The_Principle_of_mind (https://theosophy.wiki/en/Manas#The_Principle_of_mind) ;D (male)body-in-each-(female occupied)cama-syndrom Cama-Sutra
or less esoterical,more by "mana"ging ::) https://kryptografie.de/kryptografie/chiffre/i-ging.htm (https://kryptografie.de/kryptografie/chiffre/i-ging.htm)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OT_VIII (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OT_VIII)
https://theosophy.wiki/en/Ego (https://theosophy.wiki/en/Ego) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOxzG3jjFkY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOxzG3jjFkY)
Mr.LeBlanc meets Mr. LeNoir ,avec coeur
https://theosophy.wiki/en/Universal_Mind (https://theosophy.wiki/en/Universal_Mind) Cosmology ( with/-out temporal/local contradiction ,also called PARA-/DOXON )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_xH7noaqTA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_xH7noaqTA)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiKj0Z_Xnjc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiKj0Z_Xnjc) take it "morna" ,
a-/synchron a-/local a-/RAUM-Line + ZEIT-Line a-/syntaxisch
Le LOI, c´est donc moi
And the consciousness/arousel stages of mind
Alpha-,Beta-,Gamma-,Theta-,Delta-wave and their neural oscillations frequency range
each body a " TIME"- shuttle 8) ,'shuttle' mechanism operator
What is more important : wisdom or truth ? geral or specific ;)
https://www.filosofiaesoterica.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/The-Theosophy-of-Albert-Einstein-COM-MOLD.png (https://www.filosofiaesoterica.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/The-Theosophy-of-Albert-Einstein-COM-MOLD.png)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKvrJeL2jEs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKvrJeL2jEs)
https://www.barrylebost.com/up-of-a-and-review (https://www.barrylebost.com/up-of-a-and-review)
From TRAUM-ZEIT or(and 8) ) REAL-TIME view :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfFnbBUkxes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfFnbBUkxes)
Mich hat die Physik auch zum Glauben geführt. Wer hätte das gedacht, ganz groß diese Herrn !
Is dieser nun ein grosser Life-MANA-ger !
Roberto Blanco (skin-color ?) Ein bisschen Spass muss sein., ....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ8tY0c-s04 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ8tY0c-s04)
Kann man nur hoffen,dass ein Blanco-Scheck nicht Schwarzgeld basierend ist :P
Was Albert dazu meint : https://www.filosofiaesoterica.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/The-Theosophy-of-Albert-Einstein-COM-MOLD.png (https://www.filosofiaesoterica.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/The-Theosophy-of-Albert-Einstein-COM-MOLD.png)
Echt albern !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3ENX3aHlqU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3ENX3aHlqU)
Tschau,vale bene
OCWL
p.s. : https://qz.com/596514/its-possible-that-there-is-a-mirror-universe-where-time-moves-backwards-say-scientists/ (https://qz.com/596514/its-possible-that-there-is-a-mirror-universe-where-time-moves-backwards-say-scientists/)
"You start at that central Janus point where the motion is chaotic –that's like the Greek notion of primordial chaos—but then in both directions you get this structure forming. If the theory is right, then there's another universe on the other side of the big bang in which the direction of experience of time is opposite to ours."
Nur bloede,
the INDIVIDIUM
WELT-ZEIT-PUNKT (specific Janus point)
und
T-RAUM-ZEIT/ECHTZEIT
DISKONTINUITAET
darstellt,materialistisch,
Ab-/Leben (Life-Decay)
inner (life)clock
( "mana"gement)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z8z-VRkO5k
John Worrell Keely 40 LAWS OF VIBRATION (COSMIC VIBRATION)
...
1. Law of Matter and Force:
Coextensive and coeternal with space and duration, there exists of all matter: these are in a state of constant vibratory motion, infinite in extent, unchangeable in quantity the initial of all forms of energy.
2. Law of Corporeal Vibrations:
All coherent aggregates when isolated from like bodies, or when immersed of confined in media composed of matter in a different state, vibrate at a given ascertainable pitch.
3. Law of Corporeal Oscillation:
All coherent aggregates not isolated from like bodies, oscillate at a period-frequency varying with the tensions that augment and diminish the state of equilibrium.
4. Law of Harmonic Vibrations:
All coherent aggregates are perpetually vibrating at a period-frequency corresponding to some harmonic ratio of the fundamental pitch of the vibrating body; this pitch is a multiple of the pitch of the atomole.
5. Law of Transmissive Vibraic Energy:
All oscillating and vibrating coherent aggregates create in the media in which they are immersed, outwardly propagated concentric waves of alternate condensation and rarefaction, having a period-frequency identical with the pitch of the aggregate.
6. Law of Sympathetic Oscillation:
Coherent aggregates immersed in a medium pulsating at their natural pitch simultaneously oscillate with the same frequency, whether the pitch of the medium be a unison of any harmonic of the fundamental pitch of the creative aggregate.
7. Law of Attraction:
Juxtaposed coherent aggregates vibrating in unison, of harmonic ratio, are mutually attracted.
8. Law of Repulsion:
Juxtaposed coherent aggregates vibrating in discord are mutually repelled.
9. Law of Cycles:
Coherent aggregates harmonically united constitute centres of vibration bearing relation to the fundamental pitch not multiples of the harmonic pitch, and the production of secondary unions between themselves generate pitches that ate discords, either in their unisons, or overtones with the original pitch; from harmony is generated discord, the inevitable cause of perpetual transformation.
10. Law of Harmonic Pitch:
Any aggregate in a state of vibration develops in addition to its fundamental pitch a series of vibration in symmetrical sub-multiple portions of itself, bearing ratios of one, two, three, of more times its fundamental pitch.
11. Law of Force:
Energy manifests itself in three forms; Creative the vibrating aggregate: Transmissive, being the propagation of isochronous waves through the media in which it is immersed; Attractive, being its action upon other aggregates capable of vibrating in unisons or harmony.
12. Law of Oscillating Atomic Substances:
Coherent atomic substances are capable of oscillating at a pitch varying directly as the density, and inversely as the linear dimensions from one period of frequency per unit of time to the 21st octave above, producing the creative force of Sonity, whose transmissive force (Sound) is propagated through the media of solids, liquids, and gases, and whose stated effect (Sonism) produces attractions and repulsions.
13. Law of Sono-thermity:
Internal vibrations of atomic substances and atomic molecules are capable of vibrating at a period-frequency directly as their density, inversely as their linear dimensions, directly as the coefficient of their tension from the 21st to the 42d octaves, producing the creative force (Sono-thermity), whose transmissive force (Sono-therm) is propagated in solid, liquid, gaseous, and ultra-gaseous media, statically producing adhesions and molecular unions, or disintegration, according to the Law of Harmonic Attraction and Repulsion.
14. Law of Oscillating Atoms:
All atoms when in a state of tension are capable of oscillating at a pitch inversely as the cube of their atomic weights, and directly as their tension from 42 to 63 octaves per second, producing the creative force (Thermism), whose transmissive force (Rad-energy) propagated in solid, liquid, and gaseous ether, produces the static effects (Cohesion and Chemism) on other atoms of association, or dissociation, according to the Law of Harmonic Attraction and Repulsion.Scholium: Dark radiant heat begins at absolute zero temperature, and extend through light, chemical rays, actinic rays, and infraviolet rays, up to the dissociation of all molecules to the 63d octave.
15. Law of Vibrating Atomolic Substances:
Atoms are capable of vibrating within themselves at a pitch inversely as the Dyne (the local coefficient of Gravity), and as the atomic volume, directly as the atomic weight, producing the creative force (Electricity), whose transmissive force is propagated through atomolic solids, liquids, and gases, producing induction and the static effect of magnetism upon other atoms of attraction or repulsion, according to the Law of Harmonic Attraction and Repulsion.Scholium: The phenomena of Dynamic Electricity through a metallic conductor and of induction are identical. In a metallic conductor, the transmission is from atom to atom, through homologous interstices, filled with ether, presenting small areas in close proximity. In crystalline structures, heat, which expands the atoms, by twisting them produces striae, increases the resistance, etc. Between parallel wires and through air the induction takes place from large areas through a rarefied medium composed of a mixture of substances, whose atoms are separated by waves of repulsion of various pitches, discordant to electric vibrations; the said atoms sympathetically absorb the vibrations and dissipate from themselves, as centres, concentric waves of electric energy which produces heat and gravism.
16. Law of Oscillating Atomoles:
Atomoles oscillating at a uniform pitch (determined by their uniform size and weight) produce the creative force Atomolity, whose transmissive form, Gravism, is propagated through more rarefied media, producing the stated effect upon all other atomoles, denominated Gravity.
17. Law of Transformation of Forces:
All forces are different forms of Universal Energy unlike in their period-frequency, merging into each other by imperceptible increments; each form representing the compass of 21 octaves. Each form or pitch may be transformed into an equivalent quantity of another pitch above or below it in the scale of 105 octaves. The transformation can occur only through its static effect, developing vibrations of harmonic pitches above and below their fundamental vibration, or developing with juxtaposed aggregates, resultant and difference, or third order, as the case may be.Scholium: A table of the intervals and harmonics of the normal harmonic scale will indicate the ratios in which the transformation of forces will occur.
18. Law of Atomic Pitch:
Atoms have each a different and definite pitch, at which they naturally vibrate.Scholium: Atomic pitch is determined directly from its simple spectrum.Scholium: Atomic pitch is determined by computations from its associate spectrum with all other atoms, as in known spectra.Scholium: Atomic pitches are more important working data then atomic weights; tables of atomic pitches must be precise.
19. Law of Variation of Atomic Pitch by Rad-energy:
The higher harmonics and overtones of projected rad-energy are of a pitch sufficiently high to cause the atom to expand: by causing the atomoles to vibrate systematically the same influence will cause the atom to contract, and thus by changing the volume, atomic pitch is varied.
20. Law of Variation of Atomic Pitch by Electricity and Magnetism:
Electricity and Magnetism produce internal vibration in the atom, which are followed by proportional changes in volume and, therefore, pitch.
21. Law of Variation of Atomic Pitch by Temperature:
Atoms in chemical combination oscillate with increasing amplitude directly as the temperature, and simultaneously absorb overtones of higher harmonics, producing expansion of volume and diminution of pitch.Rule: The gradual approach of the temperature of harmonic combination can be observed by mutually comparing superimposed spectra; chemical combination commences when the fundamental lines of each spectrum bear harmonic ratios by linear measurement.
22. Law of Pitch of Atomic Oscillation:
Atoms not isolated and in a state of tension between forces that oppose and increase the equilibrium oscillate bodily at a pitch that is a resultant of the atomic weight, atomic volume, and tension.
23. Law of Variation of Pitch of Atomic Oscillation by Pressure:
The frequency of atomic oscillation increases and diminishes inversely as the square of the pressure.
24. Law of Variation of Atomic Oscillation by Temperature:
The force of cohesion diminishes inversely as the square of the distance the atoms are apart, and the force of the chemical affinity diminishes in the same ratio. Heat increases the amplitude of the oscillations in a direct ratio to the temperature of the natural scale. Scholium: New thermometers and accurate thermometric tables, on the natural bases, wherein doubling the temperature doubles the pitch of the transmissive energy, are required. Such a table of temperature will bear natural relations to atomic weights, pitches, specific heats, chemical affinities, fusions, solubilities, etc., and will disclose new laws. One table for each must be constructed.
25. Law of Variation of Atomic Oscillation by Electricity:
The electric current destroys cohesion and chemical tension directly as square of current in amperes, inversely as the resistance in ohms, inversely as the chemical equivalent, and conversely as the coefficient of the difference between the freezing and volatilizing temperature of mass acted upon.
26. Law of Variation of Atomic Oscillation by Sono-thermism:
Diminishes the tensions directly as the quantity of heat developed and in antithetical proportion to the harmonics absolved.
27. Law of Chemical Affinity:
Atoms whose atomic pitches are in either unison, harmonic or concordant ratios, unite to form molecules.Corollary: When two atoms are indifferent, they may be made to unite by varying the pitch of either, or both.Scholium: This necessitates the construction of tables representing variation of atomic pitches by temperature, pressure, etc.Scholium: Tables of all harmonics and concords, and harmonics founded upon a normal harmonic scale, are equally essential.Scholium: Optical instruments may be made to measure pitches of energy.
28. Law of Chemical Dissociation:
If the pitch of either atom, in a molecule, be raised or lowered: or, if they both be unequally raised of lowered in pitch until the mutual ratio be that of a discord; or, if the oscillation amplitude be augmented by heat until the atom are with the concentric waves of attraction, - the atoms will separate.
29. Law of Chemical Transposition:
New molecules must be harmonics of the fundamental pitch.
30. Law of Chemical Substitution (too complex for brief statement).
31. Law of Catalysis:
The presence of harmonics and discords.
32. Law of Molecular Synthesis and Combination (Organic):
The molecular pitch must be a derived harmony of the radicals. Scholium: Reconstruction of electric units to represent pitches and amplitudes.
33. Law of Chemical Morphology:
The angle of crystallization is determined by the relation between the molecular pitch of the crystallizing substance to the vibration-density of the liquid depositing it.
34. Law of Atomic Dissociation:
Overtones of high rad-energy pitches produce separation of the atomoles and recombinations among the atomolic molecules of the atoms.
35. Law of Atomolic Synthesis of Chemical Elements:
Harmonic pitches of atomolity produce association of etheric-atomolic particles to form atoms: the kind of atom is determinable by the pitches employed.
36. Law of Heat:
Atoms under the tension of chemical combination oscillate with an amplitude directly as the temperature, inversely as the pressure, and as the square of the specific heat. Diminishing the pitch of oscillation inversely as the square of the distance of the atoms apart, and simultaneously increasing the vibrating pitch of the atom by absorption of overtones and higher harmonics.
37. Law of Electro-chemical Equivalents:
An atom vibrates sympathetically under the influence of electric energy, such undertones of which are absorbed as are a harmonic or harmony of the electric pitch; the amount of energy absorbed being directly as the arithmetical ratio of the undertone of the fundamental electric pitch.Scholium: A table of elector-chemical equivalents on the normal basis will indicate the electrical conditions and amount of chemical change.
38. Law of Cohesion:
The cohesion between atoms diminishes directly as the square root of the pressure and temperature, and as the square of electric intensity.
39. Law of Refractive Indices:
A table of the refractive indices of substances indicates their molecular pitch; and in connection with crystalline form the phase of molecular oscillation.
40. Law of Electric Conductivity:
Electric energy is transmitted through homogeneous bodies with a completeness in direct proportion as the atoms are more or less perfect harmonics of the electric pitch, but not as all through substances whose atoms are discordant to the electric pitch; also through molecular substances, when their resultant notes are harmonics of the electric pitch,-the transmissions being inversely as the temperature, directly as the density diminished in proportion to the amount of crystallization, and inversely as the cube of the dyne, also directly as the reciprocal of the magnetic intensity. As we believe the above statement to be of priceless value to the world, in proportion as they are comprehended, we offer no apology to our readers for introducing so many technicalities, but publish them in the expectant hope that some struggling seeker after scientific verity may find in them a key to the solution of many perplexing mysteries.
https://translatedby.com/you/john-ernst-worrell-keely-s-forty-laws-of-sympathetic-vibratory-physics/original/ (https://translatedby.com/you/john-ernst-worrell-keely-s-forty-laws-of-sympathetic-vibratory-physics/original/)
Definitions to aid in understanding Keelys' Laws of Sympathetic Vibration
ATOMOLES:
elementary units of matter uniform in size and weight, and which exist in solid, liquid, gaseous, and isolated forms.
ATOMS:
are multiple combinations of atomoles, and they also exist in solid, liquid, gaseous, and isolated forms.
SIMPLE MOLECULES:
Text
are formed by the union of two atoms of the same kind.
COMPOUND MOLECULES:
are unions of two atoms of dissimilar kind.
COMPLEX MOLECULES:
are unions of molecules with other molecules or atoms.
PITCH:
is the relative frequency of vibration.
VIBRATION:
is the rhythmical motion of a body within itself.
OSCILLATION:
is a rhythmical recurring translatory movement.
TRANSMISSIVE ENERGY:
is rhythmical motion of condensation and rarefaction produced by the vibrating or oscillating body in the medium in which it is immersed.
ATTRACTION:
is the mutual approach of aggregates caused by concentrated waves of harmonic energy, tending to move in line of least resistance, by becoming the centre of one series of concentric waves instead of two or more series.
HARMONY:
is the simultaneous vibration of two or more bodies whose harmonics do not produce discords, and whose fundamental pitches are harmonics of the lowest pitch, or are a unison with the resultant notes or overtones, or undertones, of any two or more of them.
AETHER:
is an atomolic liquid 986,000 times the density of steel.
ELECTRICITY:
is the oscillation of the atomoles of an atom.
INDUCTION:
is the transmissive force of the electric vibration in aether.
MAGNETISM:
is the mutual attraction of juxtaposed bodies vibrating at unison or harmonic electric pitches.
GRAVITY:
is the mutual attraction of atomoles.
GRAVISM:
is the transmissive form through a medium of atomoles in the fourth state, or a medium composed of atomolini.
ATOMOLINI:
are ultimate units of atomoles, and when in a liquid state are the media for the transmission of gravism. The illimitable divisibility and aggregation of matter is a logical sequence.
These 40 laws have been hidden away for over 85 years. We believe the time is long past for the free sharing of such information among all interested parties.
https://svpwiki.com/Keelys-Laws-of-Being (https://svpwiki.com/Keelys-Laws-of-Being)
file:///C:/Users/beatr/Downloads/KeelyandHisDiscoveries_10034791.pdf 400 pages !
http://www.rexresearch.com/keely/keely.html (http://www.rexresearch.com/keely/keely.html)
https://www.lockhaven.edu/~dsimanek/museum/keely/keely.htm (https://www.lockhaven.edu/~dsimanek/museum/keely/keely.htm)
E. Alexander Scott :
The wire, he guessed, was a hollow tube transmitting air pressure to the water chamber. To counter this suggestion, Keely cut a ways into the wire with a file to prove it solid. But Moore surreptitiously picked up a scrap piece of similar wire in the workshop and later found that it did have a very fine, hollow center.
https://www.lockhaven.edu/~dsimanek/museum/keely/secret2.gif (https://www.lockhaven.edu/~dsimanek/museum/keely/secret2.gif)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGiviT-C_oY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGiviT-C_oY)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QW1-q3NklE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QW1-q3NklE)
how much the diameter of the compressed air delivering hollow tube for 1 KW,5 KW and more rotative "compressed air" engine output ?
My philosophy frame: not theology,also neither scientology nor Theosophy : simple Teleology
and http://www.georgehart.com/virtual-polyhedra/synestructics.html (http://www.georgehart.com/virtual-polyhedra/synestructics.html) , Buckminster Fuller his frame
https://patents.google.com/patent/US3937426A/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US3937426A/en)
https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Peter+J.+Pearce (https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Peter+J.+Pearce)
Sincere
OCWL
p.s.: https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19990318&CC=DE&NR=19740299A1&KC=A1 (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19990318&CC=DE&NR=19740299A1&KC=A1)
An example is given of a reciprocating engine with a swept volume of 1.766 ccd, piston diameter 3.5mm, which produces 70 watts at 500 rpm.
10 000 RPM Infinitysav/ 500 RPM Haeberle ( https://rudolf-diesel-medaille.de/preistraeger/ (https://rudolf-diesel-medaille.de/preistraeger/) awarded)
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ALTRUISMUM
The only need for this protection application for me is to prevent this knowledge from being lost with my death and it should be food for thought for others.
Lanca links..
Levitation or Gravity Control
from Snell Manuscript, 1934
In the spring of 1890 Keely succeeded in raising the metal weight composing his airship model, by means of a force still unknown to science. One of his friends stated "When he has gained as perfect control of it as we now have over steam, airships weighing thousands of tons can easily traverse the highways of the air."
"He has gained control of the mysterious polar current to that extent that he has been able to exhibit on the thirds or molecular graduation of the propellor of his airship, 120 revolutions per minute, and on the sixths or atomic graduation, 360 revolutions per minute. He still has the etheric field to conquer."
Keely says "By exciting the metallic mass composing a navigator of any given weight, it may be suspended and propelled. The vibratory neutral negative attraction evolved will bring it into perfect commercial control by keeping it in sympathy with the earths polar stream." This is why he sought to find the sympathetic connection between luminous ether, or inflowing celestial streams, and the radiating or terrestrial streams, which, by their interaction "solar tensions against terrestrial condensations" cause the polar current and its kindred phenomena.
While he used "sympathetic negative attraction" for running machinery, he sought to use for aerial navigation, another force, a "negation" of "sympathetic negative attraction" or the same force that regulates the recession of the planets from each other. This is probably simply polar propulsion, although he terms this elsewhere as gravity.
"The power of the terrestrial propulsive and celestial attractive is to lift and of the celestial propulsive and terrestrial attractive is to descend. Certain polar or antipolar vibrations can intensify either of these qualities so as to cause either of them to predominate. Intensifying the celestial will cause a metallic mass to rise with a speed proportionate to the concentration of the dominant bearing on the negative thirds of its mass chords, thereby inducing high neutral radiation together with celestial attraction."
"An airship of any number of tons weight can, when my system is completed, float off into space with a motion as light as thistledown, or with a velocity out rivaling the cyclone. With the force of corpuscular bombardment its movements can be as varied as is necessary for commercial use at any desired elevation and at any speed." (The Snell Manuscript)
Levitating Gyroscopes
John Ernst Worrell Keely, 1894
"A small instrument, having three gyroscopes as a principal part of its construction, is used to demonstrate the facts of aerial navigation. These gyroscopes are attached to a heavy, inert mass of metal, weighing about one ton. The other part of the apparatus consists of tubes, enclosed in as small a space as possible, being clustered in a circle. These tubes, represent certain chords, which were coincident to the streams of force acting upon the planet, focalizing and defocalizing upon its neutral center. The action upon the molecular structure of the mass lifted was based upon the fact that each molecule in the mass possessed a north and south pole, - more strictly speaking, a positive and negative pole, - situated through the center, formed by the three atoms which compose it. No matter which way the mass of metal is turned, the poles of the molecule point undeviatingly to the polar center of the earth, acting almost exactly as the dip-needle when uninfluenced by extraneous conditions, electrical and otherwise. The rotation of the discs of the gyroscopes produces an action upon the molecules of the mass to be lifted, reversing their poles, causing repulsion from the earth in the same way as like poles of a magnet repel each other. This repulsion can be diminished and increased according as the mechanical conditions are operated. By operating the three discs, starting them at full speed, then touching two of them, so as to bring them, according to the tone they represented by their rotation, to a certain vibratory ratio, the weight then slowly sways from side to side leaves the floor, rising several feet in the air, remaining in that position, and as the discs gradually decrease their speed of rotation the weight sinks to the floor, settling down as lightly as thistledown. Where one molecule can be lifted, there need be no limit as to the number in a structure that may be operated upon as easily as one. The vessel in contemplation, the aerial navigator, will be over two hundred feet long, over sixty feet in diameter, tapering at both ends to a point, made of polished steel, and will be capable of being driven under the power of depolar repulsion, at the rate of three hundred miles an hour. It can be far more easily controlled than any instrument now in use for any phase of transit. Another very remarkable feature connected with this system of aerial navigation, is that the vessel is not buoyed up or floated in the air through the medium of the air, so that if there were no atmosphere it would float just as readily; hence, under mechanical conditions most certainly capable of production, involving massive strength of resistance to interstellar vacuity this can be made capable of navigating even the remote depth of space, positions between planets where polarity changes being controlled by other adjuncts of concentration for that purpose.
Safely enclosed within this structure, a man possessing the chemical knowledge these new laws give, with sufficient supply of material from which to make oxygen, by the enormously increased rate of speed attained by such navigator where atmospheric friction is avoided, the time occupied in traveling from one planet to another would be amazingly brief, and one can travel to other planets in this system of worlds as easily as the same ship could navigate the depths of the ocean.
The great obstacle hitherto preventing the solution of this problem has been the strength of structure needed under conditions above presented. With this knowledge of matter, the size of structure is unimportant; the heaviest can be as easily controlled as the lightest."
From Dashed Against the Rock,, by William Colville, 1894.
https://www.svpvril.com/svpweb10.html
Is John Keelys work only based by fake,under-/overestimated,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ernst_Worrell_Keely (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ernst_Worrell_Keely)
or to find in Physics today with the expression " ..... effect" by others their name `!
"40 phenomen laws (if ....,then ... ,published 1893 !?), hypo-/thesis
how restricted in reality their functional order validity,when one/more law space is over-/inner lapped ,compressed ?
linear or turbulent/chaotic
laws or effect orders
At first : Nature Biology to Nature Re-/Engineering ,called Bionics or Tribology
up (in chaos) down in dimension https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanotribology (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanotribology)
and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triboelectric_effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triboelectric_effect)
https://phys.org/search/?search=triboelectricity&s=0 (https://phys.org/search/?search=triboelectricity&s=0)
https://phys.org/news/2021-06-dynamics-contact-electrification.html (https://phys.org/news/2021-06-dynamics-contact-electrification.html)
Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
Reactive flow/fluid - Paralel /Seriell RCL Analogon
http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=3330899&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en (http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=3330899&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en)
[0012]
The invention is based on the knowledge that there is an analogy between electrical engineering and fluid mechanics.
[0013]
This consists in the fact that an electromagnetic field around an arbitrarily bent wire-shaped conductor and a flow field around an arbitrarily shaped vortex thread are described by the same law,
Biot-Savart's law.
The quantities "increase in magnetic field strength" and "increase in speed" therefore correspond to one another.
Since magnetic field strength can be concentrated by winding a current-carrying conductor into a coil, an increase in speed can also be achieved in fluid technology by winding a vortex thread into a coil.
If you arrange several whibs rotating in the same direction so that their axes lie on a circle, they will rotate around the center of the circle as a result of mutual induction.
The induction increases with the number of vortices. The winding speed increases and the wedged threads approach the shape of closely spaced ring vortices.
The velocity field that these ring vortices induce inside them creates the desired concentration effect.
Citation End
To this it would be helpfull to read about Torricelli ( unit TORR ) and Toribio Bellocq its oeuvre and confirmated fluid/electric AC current analogy !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfCyzIbpLN4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfCyzIbpLN4) and related 4:15+ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suIAo0EYwOE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suIAo0EYwOE)
the Tesla turbine inner IMPELLER linear structure with Infinitysav inner curvative IMPELLER structure and
centipetal and/ or centrifugal forces in-/decrease effect ,by structure geometry !
Sincere
OCWL
p.s.: Musical Dynasphere https://svpwiki.com/Musical-Dynasphere (https://svpwiki.com/Musical-Dynasphere)
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=meta+c&IN=dinnan&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=meta+c&IN=dinnan&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathetic_nervous_system (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathetic_nervous_system)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomic_nervous_system (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomic_nervous_system)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasympathetic_nervous_system (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasympathetic_nervous_system)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enteric_nervous_system (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enteric_nervous_system)
RNA and DNA intercommunication language ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurotransmitter (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurotransmitter) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuron (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuron)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasy_(psychology (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasy_(psychology)) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality)
Fantasies are typically associated with scenarios that are statistically implausible or impossible in reality (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality) .
https://www.healthline.com/health/hallucinations (https://www.healthline.com/health/hallucinations)
5 sin/s organ/s : basic and/or ? (8-12 ) http://www.anthroposophie.net/peter/ (http://www.anthroposophie.net/peter/)
https://biologie-lernprogramme.de/daten/html/basiskonzept_information/daten/html/23_Uebersicht_zu_Reizen_und_Sinnesorganen.html (https://biologie-lernprogramme.de/daten/html/basiskonzept_information/daten/html/23_Uebersicht_zu_Reizen_und_Sinnesorganen.html)
in the case of "internal stimuli", overlaps with the hormonal system
Do You eat cornflakes,no name or "KELLOGGS" ?
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Kellogg-Company (https://www.britannica.com/topic/Kellogg-Company)
patients at Dr. Kellogg's Battle Creek Sanitarium https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S93aiPRym4o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S93aiPRym4o)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1sl_NOOK-U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1sl_NOOK-U)
stupidity or humans their behaviour mimikry or both in one ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX4qWdhkPjo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX4qWdhkPjo)
natural "wellness" medicine each morning ? ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcGnWA2w4t8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcGnWA2w4t8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOKBFmrk3qM
Quote from: nix85 on June 14, 2021, 06:59:18 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOKBFmrk3qM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOKBFmrk3qM)
(Romano-)Rumaenische Untertitel ? ;) Mother-language ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Constantinescu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_sonics
wmbr
OCWL
p.s.: http://www.rexresearch.com/scalarlong/scalar.html (http://www.rexresearch.com/scalarlong/scalar.html)
https://fdocuments.in/document/andrija-puharich-elf-emf-pollution-shield-transformation-into-scalar-longitudinal.html (https://fdocuments.in/document/andrija-puharich-elf-emf-pollution-shield-transformation-into-scalar-longitudinal.html)
and "music out the dent amalgam" :o http://www.rexresearch.com/dotto/dotto.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/dotto/dotto.htm)
https://de.scribd.com/document/212694606/Gianni-Dotto-Ring-Patent (https://de.scribd.com/document/212694606/Gianni-Dotto-Ring-Patent)
ups,pardon-me, "music out the dent amalgam" happened him here as phenomen to observe : broadcast FM/AM in that time ?!
http://www.rexresearch.com/lakhov/lakhusps.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/lakhov/lakhusps.htm)
No brain(s: 1+2)-carrier is perfect :'(
Lanca kilometer links AGAIN, you gotta stop doing that. Understand most of us zoom in cause site font is too little, with your kilometer links it makes any thread impossible to read.
From late Jerry Decker
Years ago, at one of our Vanguard Sciences Roundtables in Dallas, a man who was President of a Gravity Research organization swore to me that he received a call from a stranger telling him he had developed a means to reduce local gravity to control the weight of any mass to which it was attached.
The man telling me this didn't believe it so the caller offered to demonstrate the device but he wouldn't permit any photos or give any details of how it worked. My friend drove out to the far end of a mall in Waco, Texas where the caller was sitting inside a Jeep. No one was else was around so they had no fear of being interrupted.
They greeted each other and the caller got inside the Jeep, put it in neutral and asked that my friend get behind the Jeep and push it to get an idea of how hard it was to move. The caller sat inside the Jeep while my friend pushed it about 5 feet. The caller put on the brakes, turned on the engine and backed it up to the original location.
My friend walked to the drivers side where the caller had turned off the engine. He reached under the dash and flipped a hidden toggle switch. The caller sat in the Jeep and asked my friend to again go to the rear of the Jeep and push. This time, the Jeep moved with the touch of a finger! Like a giant balloon offering almost no resistance as it travelled a good 10 feet with the slightest push.
Of course, he was astonished and wanted to know more. The caller got out of the Jeep, went to the front and crouched down, pointed to a small black box mounted inside the wheel well above the tire. A cable ran from the small black box to a device inside the Jeep which the switch controlled.
Each wheel had an identical device and cable leading to the inside control device. The caller said when power was applied, the local gravity was repelled so that the Jeep was enveloped in an energy field where gravity and inertia were reduced, that he had it set for a given percentage of weight loss but could adjust it to whatever level he wished, even to outright levitation.
The caller would not provide any details about the nature of the box, but my friend thanked him for the demonstration, turned off the gravity nullifier device and drove off into the sunset leaving my friend baffled at what he had just seen.
As is so often the case with such stories, I asked my friend if he got a name and contact information for this mystery inventor and he said yes, but his wife washed his clothes where he had left the paper so it was destroyed.
I asked him if he noticed anything unusual and he said he thought there was a slight whirring sound when the device was energized which led us to think it could be a unidirectional, inertial technique to redirect a spinning weight in an upward direction.
https://keelynet.wordpress.com/2009/03/07/a-tale-of-negative-gravity/
Because me interests the experimental field and results research,nix 85 !
gravitational field (partial) neutralization and gravitational field artificial (re-)engineering in (orbital) space
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Sincere
OCWL
Don't act like a jerk, you are giving everyone a hard time.
Just shorten the links.
Fantasies are typically associated with scenarios that are statistically implausible or impossible in reality (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality) .
from impossible or only implausible ( for outsider,theorists) to : plausible by physical prototype demonstration
q.e.d. = demonstration style and confirmation
" Masterpiece " , a honory peer-approved and granted "Doctor/-a work Titular-PATENT (leased)"
and/or economical " approved and granted peer- "(technical standart)PATENT"
( but often inventors only apply without approvement interests ! financial budget,altruism,results in use preview, et cet. )
from experience (!?) to re-/search to repeat action-/reaction experiments (unidirectional/reversible ?)
this is basic research (lab,field) and later "scientifical knowledge",in hope conventional application
natural/artificial
a knife a soldier use as eat instrument or as bajonett-application
LOL, what a twit. This forum has long been in need of moderation, oversized photos and links and this kind of behavior from a senior member just reinforces the impression that this a junkyard.
reply #98
Conclusion:
Some people are naive,Some others are often called "idiots" in science.Some of that "idiots" want to look educated so they go to forum and "shine ...."Some of them are not so much idiots it is just money making them active in trashing level of this forum .But how come lankaIV was able to be fooled that much to start believe in that nonsense.How it was possible ?Simple question lankaIV can you find me just one patent of fake PhD Slobodian Andrey can you.. ? For example I'm giving you two random patents that have never been approved:https://patents.google.com/patent/US20050173996A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20050173996A1/en)https://patents.google.com/patent/US7095126B2/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US7095126B2/en)[/size]- just because perpetual motion and OU is not patentable.
Repl + 100
the second, technical standart application : 2006 granted " and OU is not patentable."Jesse McQueenhttps://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/038476291/publication/US7095126B2?q=pn%3DUS7095126B (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/038476291/publication/US7095126B2?q=pn%3DUS7095126B2)
patent office peers stupid ? patent peers idiots ?
Wesley and his statement related science/God :
really "dangerous" in consequence without to know what "God" means and the expression metaphoric use !
Quantum physicians and their believe !
an example : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics_and_Beyond (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics_and_Beyond)
Keely notes ,theosophic literature are really not the right map for constructive mind mapping and a "well" believe by practical use :
as NORM
an investor company today which no delivers something as market-able product in a relatively short,over-view able time,during this time by real basic object improvement ,will not long survive,by own investors monetary feed-back interests !
Yea Wesley boi wondered how lanca (so "smart") could've fallen for that trap, since he is not one of those "forum idiots" :) Wesley who cannot even grasp the simple 4th law of motion or lanca for whom 250w in 20kw out is 98% efficiency :)
Quote from: nix85 on June 14, 2021, 08:48:36 AM
Yea Wesley boi wondered how lanca (so "smart") could've fallen for that trap, since he is not one of those "forum idiots" :) Wesley who cannot even grasp the simple 4th law of motion or lanca for whom 250w in 20kw out is 98% CARNOT-FACTOR efficiency :)
Yo :)
Quote from: lancaIV on June 14, 2021, 08:56:39 AM
Yo :)
You mean carrot efficiency? :)
Quote from: lancaIV on June 12, 2021, 06:17:53 AM
Good Morning,
20 000 / 250 = work C.O.P. 80
1- ( 250/20 000)= 0,9875 the process efficiency ,called eta
Quote from: nix85 on June 14, 2021, 09:00:22 AM
You mean carrot efficiency? :)
Pardon-moi,but this last post remembers me :
https://media.istockphoto.com/vectors/donkey-following-carrot-vector-id476034872?k=6&m=476034872&s=612x612&w=0&h=dQKQw67TpgdNz8h4USgbP1wVLnS5fO6tRiM5qeX0YZA=
Quem sabe quem e a mulla ?
Pergunte ao espelho quem é a mula
https://overunity.com/18592/few-general-formulas/msg556506/#msg556506
Oh,que surpresa,uma resposta em lingua luso- galaico !Incluindo ac(c)entuagem core(c)ta !
Eu por meu lado nao tenho um problema a ver me no espelho !
Sentimente -as vezes- a pensar : I-A !
sincero
OCWL
Quote from: lancaIV on April 02, 2021, 08:50:17 AMIf you move the book at constant speed horizontally,you don't do any work on it, despite the fact that you have to exert an upward force to counter-act gravity.
If i wrote something like this i would never look in the mirror again.
Go to your " few formulas" reply #34 and think and go then to Your next mirror,with/-out specific vegetable
and try to translate Your findings ! You are ever both,You decide !
Point of thinking/point of reality : right and left !
axis-symmetry versus mirror-(observer point,angle)symmetry
Did You never mirror experiments in Your life ? 1 glass mirror ,2 mirror "doors" ,3x, bath-room inventar !
Aluminium foil ,copper cable,graphene, ..... de-/reflection
Sincero
OCWL
p.s.: each human his mirrored face halves ,seldom unity symmetrical ( baby face)
time is a relatively unimportant factor in universal physics,not in terrestrical ,seasonal, bio-sphere economy
You push the book across the table and then push it back to the starting place.
Indeed, net work on the book is NOT zero.
You done work in form of friction in both directions.
This friction scraped away millions of atoms on the bottom of the book and top of the table during the relative motion.
Even without friction work is done by your muscles to accelerate/decelerate the book 2 times. ATP is broken down into ADP + Pi (adinosine diphosphate + inorganic phosphate) and energy is released.
In any case work is done.
Keep looking in that mirror while chewing on your veggie until you understand work has been done.
nix85, actio/reactio ( ".... in both directions ...) and the "Paradoxon"- explication in demonstrative manner !
I fix a magnet to a kitchen fridge door ! When ends the external/internal work process,
by classical physics formulation,by quantum physics formulation ?
Only the magnet/fridge in mind,the surrounding ambient ?
Oh,pardon-me,it is now time for " Essen fassen/almocar" !
Mahlzeit or Bon Appetit or Apgrand
Don't try to muddy the waters now. Read what you wrote
"If you move the book at constant speed horizontally,you don't do any work on it, despite the fact that you have to exert an upward force to counter-act gravity."
and realize how wrong it is. In your example work is done in many ways, first chemical conversion and contraction of your muscles, acceleration/deceleration of the book, friction against the table, air resistance (small but there).
Probably we will also discuss " primary energy work" and " secondary energy work" point of view !? ::) But based by the " Pushing force does the work" quantitative and qualitative example !
Included Paradoxon their contradictions !
Later !
You will write any kind of nonsense rather that admit you were wrong, why am i not surprized. :)
I show by the Dotto/Lahkovsky example that I make error(s) and I do not delete that " silently" !
I do me not ashame to be male human,errare ......
Correctness and concentration is important : f.e Tchernobyl by human recation error !
Working with a sensitive Tab-keyboard compared the conventional mechanical PC-key-board gives all the userthe chance to learn patiently to correct orthographical errors,faster thinking than writing !
Point,mangare .
I smell the hot food from the kitchen !
Even worse you refuse to admit your errors.
I was wrong about power amplification in LC tank and i admitted it even without anyone asking me to. (Altho it is so counterintuitive and contrary to all other resonant systems where pumping energy in phase always creates power amplification).
tic-tac-toe : 9 fields,one=1 the mostly strategical : the middle
Who begins will ever win,if the player
sets the middle point at first
the rule from the game : win or loose
who begins can dispense to win by not middle point setting
if both dispense to occupy the middle-point how many steps are in need for final result : who wins,the beginner or the second player ?
How often dispense parents to win against their child/s to not demotivate,but to let learn patiency,gladnees,sadness by lost,but the chance to repeat the "game hour/day" per week !?
a-/social behaviour and the looser,but also winner,reaction observation (loud/brute or silently/net)
First and Second or winner and looser !
the Carnot efficiency,the Carnot factor
https://www.e-education.psu.edu/egee102/node/1942#:~:text=The%20Carnot%20Efficiency%20is%20the,reservoir%20operates%20(%20TCold%20 (https://www.e-education.psu.edu/egee102/node/1942#:~:text=The%20Carnot%20Efficiency%20is%20the,reservoir%20operates%20(%20TCold%20)).
1= 100 % is maxime set point
and the formula follows 1- = 1 or 100% less
99,period99 is the calculatoric theoretical maximum : as imaginary engine
physical,by mechanical stress factor limitated ,not realizeable
You get C.O.P. 10/100/1000/10000/10vX( X>%) but not ever the result by Carnot efficiency formula greater one :
ever < 1 or = 1-
you destroy the formula context - the reversible thermodynamic cycle representing -with saying/writing/thinking
(1+X ) -
why ? (higher dimension) logical
1 = (1+X)-
By my post before I wrote that I admit errors !
You state about me : " refuse to admit your errors. "
I-A !
In german :" irgendwie durch den Wind !" Do not know what an automatic translator (not fuzzy logic based)will "output" !?
I do not see our disputation as time lost,You both let me inform about for me since yesterday unknown scientists/ researcher their work like Pascual Jordan,by A.Einstein nominated as Nobel Prize candidate,not received cause
P.J. his NSDAP history ,as same case C.F.v.Weizsaecker !
Related Newtons his " superposition",farly also defined as "4.law of motion " the Born-Jordan quantum mechanical view and definition
The centrifugal-boiler invention from Infinitysav,who is the inventor,reading in their patent papers mostly korean names,only one with Andrey !
And even calculatoric believing this number,seeing this boiler in work and this 200 W motor in work ,operated by 50 W consume controler,
how long this 10 000 RPM spiral and chamber will hold the pressure and material stress !?In warranty-able time-frame l!?
How often the oil has to be changed !?
Triboelectricity here to find ? Dis-/advantage !?
If you run around the world and come back to the same point, you have done no work :)))
Quote from: nix85 on June 14, 2021, 01:36:21 PM
If you run around the world and come back to the same point, you have done no work :) ))
Illuminati,are You,not ? ;D
An investment banker stood on the pier and in a small Mexican fishing village
watched a small fishing boat dock with a fisherman on board; he had
loaded some large tuna. The banker congratulated the Mexican on his
magnificent catch and asked how long it had taken him to do it. The Mexican
replied: "Not long - just a couple of hours."
Why didn't he stay longer at sea to catch more? He asked
Banker. The Mexican said the fish were enough for him to be the closest to his family
Days to supply. The banker continued: "But what do you do with the rest of the
Day? "The fisherman:" I sleep in in the morning, go fishing a little; play with
my children, take a siesta with my wife Maria after lunch, go
Walk in the village, have a glass of wine there and play the guitar with mine
Friends, so I have a full life ".
The banker stated, "I'm a Harvard graduate and I could help you a little.
You should spend more time fishing and get a bigger boat with the proceeds
to buy. With this you could buy several boats until you have a whole fleet. Instead of
You could sell the catch to a trader directly to a fish factory
sell them and eventually open their own fish processing factory. You could
Control production, processing and sales yourself. You could then do this
abandoned small fishing village and headed for Mexico City, Los Angeles or maybe even after
Move to New York City and run your thriving business from there. "
The Mexican asked, "How long will this all take?" The banker replied:
"About 15 to 20 years." "And then what?" asked the fisherman. The banker laughed and
said, "Then the best comes. When the time is right, you could do yours
Companies go public; Sell your company shares and get very rich
become. You could make millions. "
The Mexican said: "Millions. And then?" Then the banker: "Then you could
stop working. You could move to a little fishing village on the coast
Sleep in late in the morning, go fishing a bit, play with your kids, one
Have a siesta with your wife, stroll in the village, enjoy a glass of wine in the evening
and play guitar with your friends. "
The fisher and the Walras-law ::)
Do You per day positive or negative work ,from general life view ? ;)
https://www.khanacademy.org/test-prep/mcat/physical-processes/work-and-energy-mcat/a/work-can-be-negative (https://www.khanacademy.org/test-prep/mcat/physical-processes/work-and-energy-mcat/a/work-can-be-negative)
Remember when doing work calculations
only the component of force parallel to the direction of movement is used in a work calculation.For example, in this picture here as a person pushes the book across the table,
neither the gravity force or the normal force do any work because there is no displacement in the y-direction,
but the pushing force
does do work because the pushing force is in the same direction as the movement of the book.
a person pushes
this person changing with a pushing simple machine
machine F( actio) and -F(reactio) total balance calculation input and effect
https://cdn.kastatic.org/ka-perseus-images/199e505fbad1a25ed9e46c52a8c214a5fa439a1a.svg (https://cdn.kastatic.org/ka-perseus-images/199e505fbad1a25ed9e46c52a8c214a5fa439a1a.svg)
Quote from: lancaIV on June 14, 2021, 01:45:38 PM
Illuminati,are You,not ? ;D
I just gave another example for what you said ;D
Quote from: nix85 on June 14, 2021, 01:58:04 PM
I just gave another example for what you said ;D
Yes, I wrote under absolutely condition from physics " total balance sheet" with positive and negative work,positive and negative energy and
finaly neutral work and neutral energy view ! :) two frames : 1 uncertainty
Some visual centimetres literature :
https://www.jstor.org/stable/41133759 (https://www.jstor.org/stable/41133759)
http://cbpfindex.cbpf.br/publication_pdfs/nf01803.2010_06_23_15_15_02.pdf (http://cbpfindex.cbpf.br/publication_pdfs/nf01803.2010_06_23_15_15_02.pdf)
Beside : F + vector arrow and
-F with vector arrow
You know( have experience),classical physics and quantum physics :
how it is easier to " spit around the corner ",imaginary and real !? 8) moving train, open window
local quantum physics
and temporal quantum physics : nearing frames ZERO POINT = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrico_Fermi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrico_Fermi) level
Please, we all know what positive and negative work mean,
but to claim no work has been done in that example is absurd.
Or rather, plain stupid.
You might as well say no work is done anywhere, anywhen.
We call "absurd",implausibility,but acceptable/applyable through conditioning by § ,common rules !
Has not to be rational ,but by convention from "insider" natural possible ! Sub-nano-/Supra-astrophysics-dimensional !
Learning to work with i(r)-realities,il-/logics is part from "set theory" ,paradox = means also against geral rules/laws = specific case !
The problem is not the denier,not the calculation,not to produce unikat/prototype ,
the problem is the production machinery,which has to mass produce by same quality the quantity !
Probably Hexapod like !
No matter how much nonsense your crumble in, it will not make it right.
If you were right about that no work is done in that book example, again,
you may as well say no work is done anywhere, anywhen.
Which is of course wrong considering universe is one big machine working ceaselessly on all levels.
Overall ENERGY of the universe is indeed zero, but that does not change the fact that work is done constantly, including when you move the book across the table and back.
You might as well say no work is done anywhere, anywhen.
which rating frame ? Theosophical,theological,economical,scientological,teleological ?
By Buddhism : 100% correct :)
But : I am not Buddhist ! ;) Listen I do ..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hexzt2Wo-Sw
Quote from: lancaIV on April 02, 2021, 08:50:17 AM
If you move the book at constant speed horizontally,you don't do any work on it, despite the fact that you have to exert an upward force to counter-act gravity.
:o :o ;D ;D
You can even make a frame out of your favorite candy
It will still not make that statement true. ;)
calculus : Euklid,Galilei,Newton,Euler,Kartesian
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.leifiphysik.de/mechanik/kraft-und-bewegungsaenderung/grundwissen/3-newtonsches-gesetz-wechselwirkungsprinzip (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.leifiphysik.de/mechanik/kraft-und-bewegungsaenderung/grundwissen/3-newtonsches-gesetz-wechselwirkungsprinzip)
F with ever -F (often forgotten,not counted)
only (quasi) frictionless or also F and -F influencing,this here :
http://www.rexresearch.com/wilkes/1wilkes.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/wilkes/1wilkes.htm)
https://demoweb.physics.ucla.edu/content/20-paradox-forces Paradox,not absurd
"you don't do any work on it (the book)".
No matter how much unrelated stuff you now paste about + and - force, frictionless bearing or whatever it changes not the fact that work IS done on the book in your little example. ;)
Quote from: nix85 on June 14, 2021, 03:41:58 PM
"you don't do any work on it (the book)".
No matter how much unrelated stuff you now paste about + and - force, frictionless bearing or whatever it changes not the fact that work IS done on the book in your little example. ;)
Reply #15 ,member nix85 :
"If you move the book
at constant speed horizontally,you don't do any work on it, despite the fact that you have to exert an upward force to counter-act gravity.
" to move the book
at constant speed you must first accelerate it and then work against friction,
thus you are doing work,
that you have not lifted or lowered it vertically is irrelevant
Yes, book is in state of rest. How did you imagine to move it at constant speed without accelerating it while working against friction.
By typical average Earth velocity ? ;D
No,let us be serious :
-F/F Forces ( e /e-) movement is important because
Newton's law of gravitation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity) resembles Coulomb's law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coulomb%27s_law) of electrical forces, which is used to calculate the magnitude of the electrical force arising between two charged bodies. Both are inverse-square laws (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law), where force is inversely proportional to the square of the distance between the bodies. Coulomb's law has the product of two charges in place of the product of the masses, and the Coulomb constant (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coulomb_constant) in place of the gravitational constant.
Newton's law has since been superseded by Albert Einstein (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein)'s theory of general relativity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity), but it continues to be used as an excellent approximation of the effects of gravity in most applications. Relativity is required only when there is a need for extreme accuracy, or when dealing with very strong gravitational fields, such as those found near extremely massive and dense objects, or at small distances (such as Mercury (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_(planet))'s orbit around the Sun).
Of course, more unrelated stuff, but no admission that work is done on the book. Again, no surprises. :)
Quote from: nix85 on June 14, 2021, 04:11:53 PM
Of course, more unrelated stuff, but no admission that work is done on the book. Again, no surprises. :)
If
you move the book at constant speed horizontally,
you don't
do any work on it,
despite the fact that you have to exert an upward force to counter-act gravity.
Work can only be done on an object if it moves, if the object moves up 2 meters and then it falls back down 2 meters and returns to it's original position then there was no work done on the block. If the distance from the starting position and the ending position does not change then there was no work done on the block. So to answer your question, no gravity has done no work on this object because it just fell back to it's original position.
book calculation vectors :
Pushing work and anti-pushing work not included
Quote from: lancaIV on June 14, 2021, 04:15:30 PM
If
you move the book at constant speed horizontally,
you don't do any work on it,
despite the fact that you have to exert an upward force to counter-act gravity.
Let's ignore the fact that you need to accelerate the book first.
To move the book at constant speed you must constantly work against friction.
If we suppose book is sitting on imaginary frictionless table, then once pushed it would just keep moving, it would not require you to keep pushing it. So your proposition is nonsensical.
nix85,forget at first this relatively unimportant "friction" factor !
We are discussing the several forces,positive and negative,under given physics laws and orders conditioning !
and the physical "term : work" in real physics world application !
What I want,what You want,is also unimportant !
If we're gonna forget friction, then sure, no work needs to be done, this is Newton's first law of inertia. Bodies keep moving in straight lines unless acted upon by external force.
This brings us to inertial propulsion cause here we have an INSIDE force accelerating the system anywhere.
Speaking of inertial propulsion, i'll give you a hint electropolished steel with low viscosity grease has lowest coefficient of friction, even lower than TEFLON.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpretUMnW9g
Oh,which surprize,You are beginning to write concrete !
Question when is applying a force ( f.e mass x acceleration ) not work ?
(above Newton,here Coloumb "wattfree transformer ", displacement current circuit )
What is the " lever" as instrument for a phenomen ?
Is each rotative 360° circular process no/work ? ( Here then losts : friction force )
Sadly, you still don't write concrete, always waving around crumbling in tons of blurry and unrelated stuff (easy way out?) :)
Anyway, we cannot assume no friction, if that is what you mean you must specify it.
Newtons 3.Axioms and the 4.th :the superposition state ,"4.th law"
2.Axiom -ma = ma which unit ? force ,energy or work representing ?
3.Axiom -F = F force |F| = N |-F| = -N
Unilateral the book " pushing" is bilateral pusher/pushed object and vice-versa/reziprok to see like a
" Carambolage"
We are not in search for F in Newton but W in Ns and here we have the impulse or momentum to calculate
I= Ft or p = mv ( p and v with vector arrow) |p|= Ns
Fm( echanics) and Fe( lectric) to Wm(echanic) and We(lectric)
Applying a force is not in motion mechaniqs either not electric motion "work"
Only as [(-F)+(F)]t = Wtotum ,F and -F with vector arrow
-F = F and GRT nuclear FORCE -e = e
Transformed "specific force" Relativity from Einstein/1.wife e= mcv2 to N.Tesla e=tcv2 to emphaized (e,-e)t= W ;D or -W per sec
Positive and/or negative | nuclear particle power |
Minkowski allgemeiner(passiv) Raum-Zeit to spezifischer ( aktiv) Raum-Zeit-Richtung
Orts-Vektor Zeit-Vektor Richtungs-Vektor, + von - zu
Is energy mortal ? Particle/wave power( in force units) and their lifetime ! Particle/wave birth ? Source/incubator ?
Schoepferische Zerstoerung ( Schumpeter)
Sincere
OCWL
p.s.: que horror,nao : que terror ,nao mais: que desastre ,quasi : cata-stropha( das 7) : # 180 : tantos errors :-[ ;D
:-[ Schaden ;D Freude 8) Syntax ,a bissl Sado-Maso
Force = Mass * acceleration
Work = force * distance moved unit: newton meter or joule or Work = Mass * Gravity * Height
Work = Change in Energy
Power = work / time = force * displacement / time = force * velocity
Power (hp,watt) = work(ENERGY)/time aka time rate of energy transfer
Energy = Power x Time
On deeper level there is no positive or negative "particles", every"thing" is made out of neutral bubbles of consciousness, they appear as tiny voids in the ether, there is no detectable rotation or inner content in them, they are just tiny voids, koilon = ether in greek meaning hollow...
These neutral bubbles make up male and female "atoms" (which would correspond to some subatomic particle probably smaller than quarks). These are positive and negative but their only difference is the direction of flow of NEUTRAL bubbles.
Vitality globules, lifeforces and etheric atoms
Fig. 1. Lifeforce & vitality
According to Leadbeater (1927) the Sun sends out several of forms of etheric energy, for example lifeforce and vitality. The lifeforce seems to be capable of occupying several different kinds of etheric form and most commonly it adopts an octahedron, made of four atoms arranged in a square, and one central atom constantly vibrating up and down. Sometimes it uses exceedingly active little molecule consisting of three atoms. The vitality globule consists of seven atoms, arranged like the atoms in lifeforce, except in a form of hexagon instead of a square. In all of these forms the central atom is in rapid vibration at right angles to disc plane of other atoms, springing up from it to a height greater than the diameter of the disc, and then sinking below the disc to an equal distance, repeating this motion several times in a second.
Fig. 2. Feminine etheric atom
The term "atom" used here refers to etheric atoms. There are two kinds of etheric atoms, positive (masculine) and negative (feminine). In the positive atom the lifeforce flows (counterclockwise) from the fourth dimension to the physical world and in the negative atom the lifeforce flows (clockwise) from the physical world to the fourth dimension. The force flows in from the wider end, causing a heart like shape. It spirals within and around this atom in closed loops. The atom is spinning upon its own axis and it has a regular pulsation, a contraction and expansion, like the pulsation of the heart.
The Sun radiates vitality to all levels. The vital force enters some of the physical atoms, immensely increases their activity and makes them animated and glowing. When vitality wells up within atom, it endows it with an additional life, and gives it a power of attraction so that it immediately draws around it six other atoms which it arranges in a hexagonal form. These globules are conspicuous above all others which may be seen floating in the atmosphere, on account of their brilliance and extreme activity. While the force that vivifies these globules is quite different from light, it nevertheless seems to depend upon light for its power of manifestation. In brilliant sunshine this vitality is constantly welling up afresh, and the globules are generated with great rapidity and in incredible numbers, but in cloudy weather there is great diminution in the number of globules formed, and during the night, the operation is entirely suspended.
http://www.villesresearch.com/ether.html
Learning that vitality atom is hexagonal in shape it may not come as surprise in whole universe hexagonal grid, or honeycomb core material is used for healing.
Good Morning,nix85 ,
we are similar,but not same ! And I do not base my research on unidentified foreigners,without experiments !
Am I against the Infinitiysav their claims : C.O.P. 100 excluded controler consume ? Why shall I ?
https://overunity.com/18289/lallemand-heat-pump/ (https://overunity.com/18289/lallemand-heat-pump/) C.O.P. 25
Different input/output ratio : surface/speed/rotation/pressure et cet. ergo process parameters !
C.O.P. 100 : https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19991224&CC=JP&NR=H11356033A&KC=A (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19991224&CC=JP&NR=H11356033A&KC=A)
in vacuuo
Sincere
OCWL
distance = speed * time
Quote from: alan on June 17, 2021, 09:10:19 AM
distance = speed * time
distance ( and displacement) for itself(ves are) is metrical,without tempus ,a length
distance as route ( velocity," speed has no direction" ,but in " velocity has direction" ) :
speed = distance/time speed x time = distance
miles/ph = miles x hour mph x h = m ?!
mph / h = m !?
per = means divided m/h but miles x ( = times or multiplied) hour = mh or m•h
% per centum (one nullus) (2 nullus= per mille ) also known in street traffic as " promille" ;) Alc in blood
Syntax and right algebraic sign mathematical and lingual for not school/Uni/workplace Crash-course !
Helps white and blue collar relationship and understatement and bilateral satisfaction !
with a couple of elementary units and its derivatives, we can describe much of classical physics.
position=x
v=dx/dt
a=dx2/d2t
jerk=dx3/d3t=da/dt
mass=m momentum=mv
force=ma
yank=m
jerk=m*da/dt
work e=force*x
power w=force*v
charge=q
current i=dq/dt
volt=e/q
e= v*q
p=v*i=e/q*q/t=e/t
capacitance=q/v
inductance=v /(i/t)
...
Finer would be to unite this elemenatary units into a workable process or by a working process this explaining,plausible,by non-/newtonian/coloumbian arguments as q.e.d. and repeatable !
Is it not ? Non-/classical
Sincere
OCWL
Can't start at the end.Faraday said about his discovery of induction, when they asked what it is good for 'what good is a newborn baby'. :)
Nature is linear, that's why the math works.
Oh,then "alan,the member with newborn happyness :) " take Your chance and deliver,
by all not corrupted or destroyed baby-phantasy, Your best applyable/ in apply choice !
Many other members,less newborn,will congratulates You for " free development energy" ! ;)
Faraday discovered,Edison improved ( included bought lamp patents by other) :
1000+ trials for a relatively perfect " enlighter" !
Nature is linear ? Also a line is nano-scopical only a sum of seriell pixels !
Sincere
OCWL
You cannot limit yourself to experiments only, we are dealing with subtler energies many of which we have no way of measuring with crude mechanical devices, one HAS TO balance empirical and intuitive, have a very open mind (infinitely open) but keep a very sharp discernment, then and only then one can put together the great puzzle.
Take for example gravity control, here you are in total fog, yet for me, due to immense research, this fog has thinned to a very very slim layer that provides almost no obstruction to understanding it and controlling it. Even more so with OU, immense mental energy must be focused on single spot for a prolonged time to remove this fog that blinds so many.
InfinitySAV is irrelevant, it was just an example of superefficient heater.
I remember me a member asking an other member the question :
" Why are You then here in the overunity.com-forum ?"
InfinitySAV is irrelevant, it was just an example of superefficient heater.
NO,this device is -by demonstration- and C.O.P. 100(80 incl. controler)
the base for a low-temperature heat to -mechanical energy circuit system example !
Whatever is for You,nix85,relevant ?
Inventing and discovering cause invention and discovery interest or for real sustainable society development and solution offer ?
We as researcher are only impulse-giver: iniciators ,
to bring the ready to use devices/solutions to market,private or commercial households,thousands from different professions and motivated people are in need ,world-wide !
Professions,certificated,with knowledge and terms about which we never heared /will hear,because professsion specific !
Less word-bubbles,more seriousness !
Sincere
OCWL
Why am i here? To learn and share like everyone else.
Yea, InfinitySAV heater if working as claimed is 8000% efficient, so what. I am not interested in heaters but direct electricity generation and for that there are better ways.
Whatever is for You,nix85,relevant ?
Like i said, direct generation of electricity from magnetism, gravity or any subtler forces.
Like many here, i am not saying everything i know nor do i have to. I give enough hints for people with eyes to see.
"Less word-bubbles,more seriousness"
Neutral bubbles in the ether make up our reality so distancing yourself from this concept ain't very wise. As for more seriousness, look who's talkin'.
And here a plea once again for
" just one anomalous gain mechanism? "
For the entrenched open source builders community 1000's??
Just one anomaly ( true gain mechanism, which will survive scrutiny!
Respectfully
Chet K
Ps
That's why .........
PPS
"Any "
Power, Heat, cold , gravity.....
cheeseburger.....( sorry dinner time... but COP 2 cheeseburgers would be nice ATM
Etc , etc....
Quote from: ramset on June 17, 2021, 03:17:01 PM
And here a plea once again for
" just one anomalous gain mechanism? "
For the entrenched open source builders community 1000's??
Just one anomaly ( true gain mechanism, which will survive scrutiny!
Respectfully
Chet K
Ps
That's why .........
PPS
"Any "
Power, Heat, cold , gravity.....
cheeseburger.....( sorry dinner time... but COP 2 cheeseburgers would be nice ATM
Etc , etc....
I'm off topic / sorry :D burger
but
At what has been to the best of my ability to determine, these interactions (below)
result in a net gain in kinetic energy.
https://overunity.com/18551/magnet-shear-to-direct-pull-work-ratio/
https://overunity.com/18875/o-u-magnet-force-shielding-1/
floor
PS
Just micro waved / ate two beef franks for dinner, with mustard and nori sea weed flakes.
Easier than burgers !
Einstein's book (Theory of Relativity) is perhaps 3/4 understandable by
most any one. Only about 1/4 is complex math. I read it when I was 8.
Only mostly understood the non math parts. The same would be mostly
true if I read it again today.
My point ...
Note... only a partial quote (below).
Quote from: nix85 on June 17, 2021, 12:52:48 PM
You cannot limit yourself to experiments only, we are dealing with subtler energies many of which we have no way of measuring with crude mechanical devices, one HAS TO balance empirical and intuitive, have a very open mind (infinitely open) but keep a very sharp discernment, then and only then one can put together the great puzzle.
I agree ...
But at the same time, I don't need hints.
Just direct simple and clear explanations.
Plain language, please.
I think its time to open it up / turn it all loose now.
opinion...
best wishes
floor
Quote from: Floor on June 17, 2021, 06:29:25 PM
I think its time to open it up / turn it all loose now.
In a way it is all opened up and turned loose if you're willing to dig deep and wide enough, but most ain't willing and even more important, public is not ready for Vril.
There is no observer without the observed.
They are one.
There is no meaning to individual existence, except within
the context of other.
We are not separate from "society".
Here is an interesting account about accelerated evolution, this account was published by L. Taylor Hansen who spent her life living among Indians and collecting their legends. Many wrongly dismiss this as SF.
She narrates the legend of the Paiute Indians about Greek-like colonizers who came in great rowing ships to Death Valley when it was a lush inland-sea still part of the ocean (5000 years ago?), settled in the high caverns inside Panamints and over centuries developed ever larger and more silent "flying boats".
Interestingly, another account about quays and abandoned cavern city full of treasure high in the Panamints is also given in DEATH VALLEY MEN' by Bourke Lee, this chapter of the book is a great read > https://www.angelfire.com/ut/branton/10466.html
So to get back to Indian account...
This story, or rather, account, titled "TRIBAL MEMORIES OF THE FLYING SAUCERS", appeared in the Sept. 1949 issue of FATE magazine.
The author of the following story is a Navaho Indian. He revealed this tribal secret which he learned from the Paiute Indians, who inhabit the Great Basin and Mojave deserts of Utah, Nevada, and California.
This native American, who went by the name Oga-Make, related the following account in appreciation for a story on the Navaho which appeared in the Spring of 1948 in a magazine which was carrying numerous articles on the mysterious "signs" or "fires" in the skies which were causing an enormous amount of confusion and debate during that same year, as well as the years following.
The article on the Navaho nation, which appeared in an earlier issue, told of the suffering that their tribe had gone through during past winter seasons, and encouraged the readership to send goods and supplies to help them through the upcoming winter of '48-'49, which many of them did.
In appreciation of this, Oga-Make related the following 'legend' which told of the secret history of the Americas which ran it's course, possibly thousands of years before white men set their foot en masse upon it's shores:
"...Most of you who read this are probably white men of a blood only a century or two out of Europe. You speak in your papers of the Flying Saucers or Mystery Ships as something new, and strangely typical of the twentieth century. How could you but think otherwise? Yet if you had red skin, and were of a blood which had been born and bred of the land for untold thousands of years, you would know this is not true. You would know that your ancestors living in these mountains and upon these prairies for numberless generations, had seen these ships before, and had passed down the story in the legends which are the unwritten history of your people. You do not believe? Well, after all, why should you? But knowing your scornful unbelief, the storytellers of my people have closed their lips in bitterness against the outward flow of this knowledge.
"Yet, I have said to the storytellers this: now that the ships are being seen again, is it wise that we, the elder race, keep our knowledge to ourselves? Thus for me, an American Indian, some of the sages among my people have talked, and if you care to, I shall permit you to sit down with us and listen.
"Let us say that it is dusk in that strange place which you, the white-man, calls 'Death Valley.' I have passed tobacco...to the aged chief of the Paiutes who sits across a tiny fire from me and sprinkles corn meal upon the flames...
"The old chief looked like a wrinkled mummy as he sat there puffing upon his pipe. Yet his eyes were not those of the unseeing, but eyes which seemed to look back on long trails of time. His people had held the Inyo, Panamint and Death Valleys for untold centuries before the coming of the white-man. Now we sat in the valley which white-man named for Death, but which the Paiute calls Tomesha--The Flaming Land. Here before me as I faced eastward, the Funerals (mountains forming Death Valley's eastern wall) were wrapped in purple-blue blankets about their feet while their faces were painted in scarlet. Behind me, the Panamints rose like a mile-high wall, dark against the sinking sun.
"The old Paiute smoked my tobacco for a long time before he reverently blew the smoke to the four directions. Finally he spoke.
"'You ask me if we heard of the great silver airships in the days before white-man brought his wagon trains into the land?'
"'Yes grandfather, I come seeking knowledge.' (Among all tribes of my people, grandfather is the term of greatest respect which one man can pay to another.)
"'We, the Paiute Nation, have known of these ships for untold generations. We also believe that we know something of the people who fly them. They are called The Hav-musuvs.'
"'Who are the Hav-musuvs?'
"'They are a people of the Panamints, and they are as ancient as Tomesha itself.'
"He smiled a little at my confusion.
"'You do not understand? Of course not. You are not a Paiute. Then listen closely and I will lead you back along the trail of the dim past.
"'When the world was young, and this valley which is now dry, parched desert, was a lush, hidden harbor of a blue water- sea which stretched from half way up those mountains to the Gulf of California, it is said that the Hav-musuvs came here in huge rowing-ships. They found great caverns in the Panamints, and in them they built one of their cities. At that time California was the island which the Indians of that state told the Spanish it was, and which they marked so on their maps.
"'Living in their hidden city, the Hav-musuvs ruled the sea with their fast rowing-ships, trading with far-away peoples and bringing strange goods to the great quays said still to exist in the caverns.
"'Then as untold centuries rolled past, the climate began to change. The water in the lake went down until there was no longer a way to the sea. First the way was broken only by the southern mountains, over the tops of which goods could be carried. But as time went by, the water continued to shrink, until the day came when only a dry crust was all that remained of the great blue lake. Then the desert came, and the Fire-God began to walk across Tomesha, The Flaming-Land.
"'When the Hav-musuvs could no longer use their great rowing-ships, they began to think of other means to reach the world beyond. I suppose that is how it happened. We know that they began to use flying canoes. At first they were not large, these silvery ships with wings. They moved with a slight whirring sound, and a dipping movement, like an eagle.
"'The passing centuries brought other changes. Tribe after tribe swept across the land, fighting to possess it for awhile and passing like the storm of sand. In their mountain city still in the caverns, the Hav-musuvs dwelt in peace, far removed from the conflict. Sometimes they were seen in the distance, in their flying ships or riding on the snowy-white animals which took them from ledge to ledge up the cliffs. We have never seen these strange animals at any other place. To these people the passing centuries brought only larger and larger ships, moving always more silently.'
"'Have you ever seen a Hav-musuv?'
"'No, but we have many stories of them. There are reasons why one does not become too curious.'
"'Reasons?'
"'Yes. These strange people have weapons. One is a small tube which stuns one with a prickly feeling like a rain of cactus needles. One cannot move for hours, and during this time the mysterious ones vanish up the cliffs. The other weapon is deadly. It is a long, silvery tube. When this is pointed at you, death follows immediately.'
"'But tell me about these people. What do they look like and how do they dress?'
"'They are a beautiful people. Their skin is a golden tint, and a head band holds back their long dark hair. They dress always in a white fine-spun garment which wraps around them and is draped upon one shoulder. Pale sandals are worn upon their feet...'
"His voice trailed away in a puff of smoke. The purple shadows rising up the walls of the Funerals splashed like the waves of the ghost lake. The old man seemed to have fallen into a sort of trance, but I had one more question.
"'Has any Paiute ever spoken to a Hav-musuv, or were the Paiutes here when the great rowing-ships first appeared?'
"For some moments I wondered if he had heard me. Yet as is our custom, I waited patiently for the answer. Again he went through the ritual of the smoke-breathing to the four directions, and then his soft voice continued:
"'Yes. Once in the not-so-distant-past, but yet many generations before the coming of the Spanish, a Paiute chief lost his bride by sudden death. In his great and overwhelming grief, he thought of the Hav-musuvs and their long tube-of-death. He wished to join her, so he bid farewell to his sorrowing people and set off to find the Hav-musuvs. None appeared until the chief began to climb the almost unscaleable Panamints. Then one of the men in white appeared suddenly before him with the long tube, and motioned him back. The chief made signs that he wished to die, and came on. The man in white made a long singing whistle and other Hav-musuvs appeared. They spoke together in a strange tongue and then regarded the chief thought- fully. Finally they made signs to him making him understand that they would take him with them.
"'Many weeks after his people had mourned him for dead, the Paiute chief came back to his camp. He had been in the giant underground valley of the Hav-musuvs, he said, where white lights which burn night and day and never go out, or need any fuel, lit an ancient city of marble beauty. There he learned the language and the history of the mysterious people, giving them in turn the language and legends of the Paiutes. He said that he would have liked to remain there forever in the peace and beauty of their life, but they bade him return and use his new knowledge for his people.'
"I could not help but ask the inevitable.
"'Do you believe this story of the chief?'
"His eyes studied the wisps of smoke for some minutes before he answered.
"'I do not know. When a man is lost in Tomesha, and the Fire-God is walking across the salt crust, strange dreams like clouds, fog through his mind. No man can breathe the hot breath of the Fire-God and long remain sane. Of course, the Paiutes have thought of this. No people knows the moods of Tomesha better than they.
"'You asked me to tell you the legend of the flying ships. I have told you what the young men of the tribe do not know, for they no longer listen to the stories of the past. Now you ask me if I believe. I answer this. Turn around. Look behind you at that wall of the Panamints. How many giant caverns could open there, being hidden by the lights and shadows of the rocks? How many could open outward or inward and never be seen behind the arrow-like pinnacles before them? How many ships could swoop down like an eagle from the beyond, on summer nights when the fires of the furnace-sands have closed away the valley from the eyes of the white-man? How many Hav-musuvs could live in their eternal peace away from the noise of white-man's guns in their unscaleable stronghold? This has always been a land of mystery. Nothing can change that. Not even white-man with his flying engines, for should they come too close to the wall of the Panamints a sharp wind like the flying arrow can sheer off a wing. Tomesha hides its secrets well even in winter, but no man can pry into them when the Fire-God draws the hot veil of his breath across the passes.
"'I must still answer your question with my mind in doubt, for we speak of a weird land. White-man does not yet know it as well as the Paiutes, and we have ever held it in awe. It is still the forbidden 'Tomesha--Land-Of-The-Flaming-Earth.'"
There is really no observed, there is only observer observing ITSELF.
We are not separate from society, in reality, there is no WE.
But still, is public at present state ready to control the infinite power?
To carry around small devices that can vaporize an army... Ofc not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfyNgopB0Ig
https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/dlattach/attach/181934/image// (https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/dlattach/attach/181934/image//)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamorphoses (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamorphoses)
SAGA/S mind,disc or live in concert ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P7VTExnGis (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P7VTExnGis)
Olha Quem Fala... ;D look who's talkin´
I went in the galery in the Rua Alfredo Keil/Lordelo/Oporto/POR and met a woman ,seeing she smoking !
I said to her : "Smoking is unhealthy !"
She to me repeating : "Olhe quem fala !"
She,owner from a paper-/and tobacco-shop in that galery and I sometimes buying in her shop tobacco !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1dk78L0XzI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1dk78L0XzI) :P
(ab-/used) wisdom or truth : aboveunity.com and Chris Sykes his trials ? to know/feel how !?
Happy weekend wishing(Thank God,it is Friday )
OCWL
p.s.:
" I am not interested in heaters but direct electricity generation and for that there are better ways. "
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19941018&CC=US&NR=5356484A&KC=A (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19941018&CC=US&NR=5356484A&KC=A)
reversible,means thermoelectric and electrothermic
similar wide in force converter application as Nikola Tesla :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=alvin+marks&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=alvin+marks&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search)
classical physics or quantum physics view and use ?
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=22&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19880119&CC=US&NR=4720642A&KC=A (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=22&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19880119&CC=US&NR=4720642A&KC=A)
A Femto Diode responsive to light frequencies, is described. Quantum principles are utilized. The Femto Diode comprises a submicron metal cylinder with an assymetric metal-insulator-metal tunnel junction at one end and a reflecting potential step at the other end. A light photon having a quanta of energy is absorbed by an electron in the cylinder producing an energetic electron. The cylinder acts as a potential well for the energetic electron, which travels back and forth in its own conduction band without loss of energy until it passes through the junction. The kinetic energy of the energetic electron is converted to electric energy at a greater voltage on the other side of the junction. The energy conversion is reversible. The Femto Diode may be used in light to electric power conversion, a laser which converts electric power to light power, 2D and 3D displays, high speed computers, communications and other devices.
metrical dimension :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femto- (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femto-)
and "bubbles" probably to see like "cell"/s and its sub-atomar "shell in the shell " https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.studienkreis.de/chemie/atomhuelle-schalenmodell/ (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.studienkreis.de/chemie/atomhuelle-schalenmodell/)
similar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matryoshka_doll (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matryoshka_doll)
with ? https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=13&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19510306&CC=US&NR=2543793A&KC=A (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=13&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19510306&CC=US&NR=2543793A&KC=A)
reversible reactive-current-parallel-rcl
Indeed, look who's talkin'.
Yea, no need for heaters when you can make a device that directly produce electricity.
"and "bubbles" probably to see like "cell"/s and its sub-atomar "shell in the shell"
Well, Keely's model of an molecule (probably what physics calls proton) looked like 3 shells each with two holes at the poles and turned 90° to each other covering each other's holes so that atom does not explode and the inner most shell having 3 sub-atoms in it which have the same nested structure etc all the way down to what he called Luminous Ether.
http://www.rexresearch.com/keely/keely.html
From DASHED AGAINST THE ROCK
Each molecule has three envelopes. The most external one the professor illustrated by an india-rubber ball on which he had traced a number of meridian lines.
On another ball were represented the three envelopes. The outer hemisphere of one of the envelopes is removed to show the under envelope, the outer hemisphere of which is removed in still another part of the diagram to show the inmost envelope. A third diagram was then produced to show the position of the atoms which the rotating envelopes enclose. A fourth diagram showed the lines of interference of the rotating envelopes.
There being three perfect envelopes, these of necessity must have six poles, to which add the neutral centre of the sphere itself, comprising the origin of the septenary of mysticism which is universal in nature. The fifth diagram exhibited showed the subdivision of matter into atomic, atoinolic, and atomolinic. A black disc representing a sphere shows the negative atom; two white discs also representing spheres illustrate the two positive atoms in the triad, completing the tertiary aggregation forming the molecule. Each atom is in turn composed of three atomoles ; in the negative atom are three positive atomoles, positive in the sense of activity; in the positive atom are also three atomoles, two of which are negative, i.e. passive, and one positive. The negative is always that which seeks the neutral centre ; the positive represents the active radiating energy: for instance, the sun is a medium for transmitting radiant energy of positive order, which all the planets receive negatively, i.e. it focalizes upon their neutral centres. This order extends to infinity. The final diagram presented was simply intended to further elucidate the action of the rotating envelopes, illustrating the compressing force of the rotating spheral and the protection of the neutral poles. In the rotating envelopes force acts in the opposite direction to its action in the revolution of the earth, where the centrifugal action is greatest at the equator; and the greater the speed of rotation, the greater the centre-fleeing force.
In the case of the etheric envelope, however, the greater the speed of rotation, the more powerful is the centripetal (centre -seeking) force which compresses
the atoms within ; the pressure, therefore, is greatest at the equator and gradually lessens toward the poles. If there were only one envelope, the tendency would be for the atoms to be oblate, to fly out at the poles, where the pressure is least. A beautiful provision of nature obviates this, by providing three envelopes, rotating one within
the other, like three shells ; the line of greatest internal pressure in each one of which being protected by the equatorial lines, the line of greatest pressure covering the line of least pressure on the others. Each of the three atoms is placed directly under one pole of each of the three envelopes.
If the rotating envelope of the molecule were in any way checked in its motion, the enclosed matter would immediately burst forth, producing the phenomenon of integration, releasing from its previously pent-up condition a volume of matter many times as great as that before disintegration took place. Sound-force moving at certain rates of vibration negatizes the action of the rotating envelopes, producing conditions which result in their breaking up, followed by the separation of the atoms contained in those envelopes, and also of inter-molecular substance occupying space not taken up by the atoms. By successive orders of vibration the atoms, atomoles, and atomolini are disintegrated, and so on to the luminous order, where all control ceases...
And what produces that radiation between the poles of the 3 rotating envelopes? What produces any vibration anywhere? I said before time is oscillating in place. This relates to infinite space. But where universes exist this space, or rather, consciousness becomes polarized.
As Bentov says, consciousness doesn't want to be split apart, but by desire to manifest, by power of will, this gap in the unity of mind is created, the universal egg.
There is great flow of energy between the two poles and they meet in the center producing a black-white hole. But will of God maintains the egg, not letting it collapse.
So we have a balance of what may be called love-gravity and will-antigravity.
Just another piece in the puzzle.
Speaking of Indians..
While you're still skeptical if OU or God forbid gravity control is even possible, this is what your government has been doing since before WW2, star trek reality, deep underground and undersea bases in constant cooperation with many ET races, human and non human, superluminal craft etc. The missing trillions.
Read chapter 10.
https://docdro.id/JEKraPV
If you read the chapter on the races, you will see it seems our black projects are mostly cooperating with races who have scorn for the humanity. Not necessarily evil, just no love for humanity.
Late Gordon Novel's friend's nephew was hiking in remote Utah desert, like 20 miles from nearest road, in 2005., suddenly he saw this 600 foot arrow come down silently, camouflaged silo-like door opened in the desert floor and arrow went down and door closed.
http://projectavalon.net/Gordon_Novel_Coast_to_Coast_AM_Jan_17_2010_Hour_2_extract.mp3
Few years after that, John Leonard Walson from UK captured these birds in orbit with his 9inch telescope.
Secret Space program is mostly run by Navy.
And here are few more testimonies from most credible researchers, we are talking man made superluminal craft for a long, long time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EmlV8OGmJg
This is what Law of One, one of most credible channeled materials says in 1980.
https://www.lawofone.info/s/8
Ra: I am Ra. These of which we spoke are of third density and are part of the so-called military complex of various of your peoples' societal divisions or structures.
The bases are varied. There are bases, as you would call them, undersea in your southern waters near the Bahamas as well as in your Pacific seas in various places close to your Chilean borders on the water. There are bases upon your moon, as you call this satellite, which are at this time being reworked. There are bases which move about your lands. There are bases, if you would call them that, in your skies. These are the bases of your peoples, very numerous and, as we have said, potentially destructive.
Funny they say "There are bases upon your moon, which are at this time being reworked" considering there is a leaked document dated 1.1.1979. "REPORT THAT UR DESTROYED SECRET US BASE ON MOON"
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/P790011-1247_e.html
1978-9. is also mentioned as time of great conflict between various ET groups on our planet, for example group W56 against CTR in Adriatic, huge tidal waves were observed then never before seen in that area, unidentified lights above sea etc.
Law of one says US at the time had 573 antigravity craft manufactured in New Mexico and northern Mexico and that these craft were capable of 1/2C. They also say these craft are unmanned and supposed to be used as weapons.
I believe they were faster and there surely are those which are manned.
Finally, i must add, in law of one they also say all this secret space program info is of no particular importance and irrelevant for the coming harvest. (implying all that matters is to live a moral, loving life).
law of one comes from the realm of darkness, it's deception.just think about who and what has been channeled by people throughout the centuries and what was said by the spirits who are invisible but trusted nonetheless while they don;t even trust their neighbor who they can see
blavatsky & bailey were luciferian, UN endorses her work unto Oneness.
Very wrong and irresponsible to proclaim all channeled material as darkness and deception based on nothing but uninformed personal opinion. There can be deception in channeling like in anything, but Law of one is surely not deception and darkness.
For Blavatsky and Bailey i can understand more why you would feel like that due to apparently cold and mental approach, but understand, she was conveying to people subject of immense complexity, but it is not luciferian, she even directly calls out Lucifer as deceiver of humanity. What are you talking about. Same thing for Bailey.
Just day or two ago i finished reading my second Spiritsm book, A Wanderer In The Spirit Lands and it literally blew my mind. There is nothing but goodness in it, just advice for moral life and warning what happens after immoral life and far more than i can even remotely describe here.
http://www.luminist.org/archives/Farnese%20-%20A%20Wanderer.pdf
First spiritist book i read was Nosso Lar by Chico Xavier based on which a movie Nosso Lar was made. Incredible book, incredible info. NOTHING "luciferian" about any of these.
http://www.oconsolador.com.br/linkfixo/bibliotecavirtual/ingles/AstralCity.pdf
Regarding the Moon, like early contactees claimed but were dismissed it has indeed, air and water, flora, fauna, and planet wide civilization.
George Adamski described in his first book Pioneers of space published as "SF" a great body of water into which rivers pour surrounded by cities on the far side.
That "great body of water" is 180km wide Lake Tsiolkovky just south of equator on lunar far side.[/size]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qVdQ0AhFd4&list=PLS6CmWwu5VGlv5KC7i3mVhCbPc0gvwsA_&index=5&ab_channel=Nik%C5%A1a
https://imgur.com/gallery/yiVrX
https://imgur.com/a/dZNqj
Below is the real color photograph of the lake, i only removed the excess yellow due to atmosphere, you can even see the varying dept in the lake.
Bright white areas along the coast are cities.
Notice two smaller lakes in the top left, one of the two is ironically called Waterman.
And below that an official representation of the lake from bit different angle.
who is ra?
Ra is higher density, i think 6th, non physical, soul group.
So, for all practical purposes, far side of the Moon is just like Earth except for the hazy, yellowish sky.
My estimation of the population is between half and 1 billion.
Of course, Moon is not the only place in SOL system that harbors life on our plane of existence, Mars, moons of Jupiter, Uranus, and Pluto do too, with many scattered bases all over the system by countless races.
Most of the life, however, already progressed to higher densities.
eye of ra, eye of providence, all seeing eye, all point to the same being. that's why it chose the name ra.
I am aware of egyptian solar god Ra. The eye symbolizes God, or the oversoul.
oneness is endtimes deception and the channeled are deceptive and seductive spirits.
Genesis 9 And YHWH came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
And YHWH said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread946201/pg1
That is simply nonsense, oneness does not mean dystopian, no individuality type oneness.
It just means God is one and Law is one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnMpfoxYSFY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnMpfoxYSFY)
So freaking what? Nazis used swastika as their symbol, does this mean it represents evil?
No, it always was and will be symbol of 1 divine force and 4 great (sub)forces, and of wellbeing.
As for all seeing eye, this symbol goes back eons. Take for example the artifact collected by Klaus Dona, estimated to be around
15,000 years old if i remember correctly. The inscription is thought to be proto-sanskrit by one expert and translated as "son of the Creator comes".
So, just cause freemasons/illuminati used it on their dirty money means nothing.
If you're gonna read one contactee book read this one, even if you read it as fiction it will be great fun, especially when you realize it is NOT fiction.
https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Lou%20Baldin%20-%20A%20Day%20With%20an%20Extraterrestrial.pdf
Interview with Lou.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxQ5cAlH8oE
German first antigravity disc, JFM, flew in 1922., then followed Vril, Haunebu, Andromeda, The Bell..
FBI document about German 75-100 yard wide field propelled saucer in 1944. 60km south from Berlin, seen by Polish war prisoner.
www.shorturl.at/aisJ5
It took US another 10 years for a breakthrough, by late 50s US already had FLEETS of antigravity discs, established their first city on the Moon etc. They did not use only disc shape like ARV Fluxliner, but also strange shapes like in the following report from 1966.
In the early Wednesday's morning on March 23, 1966, William Eddie Laxson was driving to work as usual. He was working as an electrical engineer / electronics instructor at Sheppard Air Force Base since 1951. Approximately 10 minutes after he left his home in Temple town, Oklahoma, he turned right on U.S. Highway 70 towards Randlett, passed the farmhouse on his left, and was forced to stop the car, because in the middle of the road was parked a 75 feet (23 meters) long spacecraft! The time was 5:05 a.m.
In his report for Project Blue Book, Mr Laxson described the craft as "conventional C-124 aircraft without wings or motors". Eddie Laxson was very familiar with conventional aircraft. He had over 8,000 flying hours in a single-engine aircraft — mostly as flight instructor, and he had taught an aircraft identification course at the University of Arkansas in 1942! In short, Eddie Laxson was the perfect, credible witness.
After Eddie Laxson hit the brakes and stopped at approx. 50 yards (46 meters) from the "fish-shaped" spacecraft, he got out of the car, and started running towards the mystery craft. He saw a man (crew member or pilot?) standing next to the spacecraft. The man was dressed in green Air Force fatigue-type uniform, wore a baseball tan cap, and had chevrons on his sleeves. The man was about 5 feet 9 inches tall and weighed about 180 pounds. Mr. Laxson was only 80 feet (24 meters) away, estimating the man's age at about 30 and reported that the insignias on his sleeves looked like U.S. Air Force stripes.
Significantly, Eddie Laxson noticed that the electrogravitic vehicle had the insignia TL 4138, or TL 4738, on its side. He quickly jolted down the numerals in the dirt at the edge of the roadway but couldn't be certain of the second digit after returning to copy them on paper. In the meantime, the mystery man (pilot?) bolted into the spacecraft, and took off. The machine went straight up for about 50 feet (15 meters) and without turning or banking accelerated to approximately 720 mph (1159 km/h), heading towards Red River. Eddie Laxson described the sound as "high-pitched electric drill". When the electrogravitic vehicle rose in the air it seemed to have a magnetic effect on the hair on Laxson's arms.
Below is the transcribed text of the newspaper article, published in The Lawton Constitution, describing two more witnesses of the TL4768 spacecraft:
Air Force Quizzes Temple Man
On 'Flying Fish-Shaped Object'
TEMPLE — An electronics instructor said today the Air Force was interested in his story of a mysterious fish-shaped object and uniformed pilot which he said landed on U.S. 70 south of here early Wednesday morning.
William Eddie Laxson, 56, an instructor at Sheppard Air Force Base who commutes to Wichita Falls from his home in Temple, reported the incident.
He said he had been contacted by Air Force officials and had been asked to tell his story to a "Captain Reynolds." He said he did not know who the officer was or what agency he represented.
Laxson said he saw the object, which he described as shaped like a perch, blocking the highway at 5:05 a.m. Wednesday while he was driving to work.
Laxson said the object, which he estimated to be 60 to 70 feet long and 10 to 12 feet high, was parked at a 45-degree angle on the highway.
He said a man dressed in what he called green Air Force fatigue-type clothing was standing beside it. He said the man wore a tan cap with the bill turned up and had chevrons on his sleeves.
The Temple man explained that he was approximately 50 yards from the object, which was well lighted. He said his car lights also were on.
Laxson, who said he has been an electronics instructor at Sheppard [Air Force Base] since 1951, said the man was about 5 feet 9 inches tall and weighed about 180 pounds. He estimated the man's age at about 30 and said the insignias on his sleeves looked like U.S. Air Force stripes.
The electronics instructor also said he had taught an aircraft identification course at the University of Arkansas in the early 1940s and could positively state the object was not a helicopter.
THE OBJECT stood on at least one "stem" and may have had more, Laxson said. The bottom of the object was about three feet off the ground, he reported. Laxson said he stopped his car, got out and started to run toward the object when he remembered he had a camera in his auto. As he went back to get the camera, the object took off, he said.
The aluminium-colored object went straight up for about 50 feet and without turning or banking went directly south toward Red River, the electronics instructor said.
Laxson said the object had no propeller and sounded like an electric drill while taking off.
LAXSON SAID he later talked to a truck driver who confirmed seeing the object while it was in the air.
Laxson reported the vehicle had the insignia TL 4138, or TL 4738, on its side. He said he quickly jolted down the numerals in the dirt at the edge of the roadway but couldn't be certain of the second digit after returning to copy them on paper.
He told newsmen the chevrons appeared to curve or arch ontop. He thought the uniform had three chevrons up and three down.
LAXSON'S WIFE, Pearl, is a first grade teacher in Temple.
The instructor said the vehicle had four lights on its side. Two upper lights were aimed at the front and rear of the vehicle and the other two were focused on the ground, he said.
Laxson said the two aimed at the ground made a pattern which he described as a half-circle.
"The lights were the brightest and most brilliant I ever saw" he said.
Laxson said when the vehicle look off he couldn't tell if the landing stems were retractable. When the vehicle rose in the air it seemed to have a magnetic effect on the hair on his arms, he said.
Laxson said that after the object left he got back in his auto and had driven about a half mile west of the sighting when he noticed a truck stopped at the edge of the roadway.
Laxson said he stopped, thinking the driver might be experiencing trouble.
THE DRIVER told Laxson he was not having mechanical trouble but had stopped because an object had been following him and he wanted to see what it was.
Laxson said the truck driver, C. W. Anderson, [of] Snyder, pointed to the object which was then travelling south.
Anderson works for Mangum Oil and Gas Co. of Mangum.
Anderson confirmed Wednesday that he had talked to Laxson and that he had sighted the object.
The truck driver said he had observed the object in his rear view mirror for some time. He said after he stopped his truck the object seemed to back off and settle down. This, apparently, was when the vehicle landed, he said.
ANDERSON said the object followed him at about the same speed for several miles.
The truck driver also said he had seen similar objects several times before. This was the first in about three months, he said.
Clyde Evans, Anderson's employer, said the truck driver had been with the firm about 10 years.
Evans said other drivers on the same route had reported seeing strange objects.
Evans said Bob Stoll, also of Snyder, had reported Wednesday that he had driven a different route early Wednesday and also sighted a lighted flying object.
Evans said Stoll told him he was stopped at Junior's Truck Stop, east of Waurika on U.S. 81, when he sighted the object near Hastings.
According to Evans, Stoll has seen the objects before. It was about 5:15 to 5:45 a.m. when he sighted the object Wednesday, Evans said.
THE AIR FORCE maintains silence on UFO sightings until a special investigating squad, known as "Project Blue Book," checks out the incidents.
Since 1947, the squad has probed over 10,000 "flying saucer" incidents.
At least 647 of the incidents investigated remain unexplained, the Air Force has said. A tabulation covering the years 1953 to 1964 attributed 2,167 sightings to astronomical phenomena, 1,167 to aircraft, and 665 to balloons. Others were attributed to missiles and rockets and at least 226 were classed as "psychological."
https://agondonter7.wordpress.com/2019/07/14/project-blue-book-case-no-10270/
Original german sketch of 139m long Andromeda Gerat with 2 mercury gravitational spheres on each side, CGI rendering, an alleged photograph of cigar ufo captured in Antarctica in 1947. and cigar ufo over New York, 1950.
Vladimir Terziski - Secret Nazi Technology & Secret Societies
Only way to find this video on youtube is exact title in "", exact title without "" will NOT find it, it's a miracle they allowed even this, all videos of this type are getting sandboxed, it is impossible to find em anymore and since public does not give a shit all good, right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEe-QGohonU
The only real photo of Ganymede, moon of Jupiter. What you are looking at is a civilization that once lived on Earth (10,000+ years ago).
When you zoom in, you can't see the individual houses, but you can clearly tell dark areas are lakes surrounded by cities (bright white areas).
And once again, Lake Tsiolkovsky and it's shoreline.
With this we end the UFO/offworldlife lesson. :)
Quote from: alan on June 20, 2021, 01:15:01 PM
blavatsky & bailey were luciferian, UN endorses her work unto Oneness.
i got to correct myself, after this discussion i looked more into this particular detail, it turns out she was indeed sympathetic for the devil, even seeing him as some kind of liberator of mankind. but still, i wouldn't exactly call her luciferian. i think it was her rebellion against the church + lack of knowledge.
firstly realize she was extremely against roman church (for a good reason since it is truly the axis of evil of this world, ofc not all the priests, but it's jesuit/satanic core, was it 60 million they slaughtered over few centuries of inquisition etc). so by expressing sympathy for the devil she was renouncing the roman church and their black and white limiting concept of good and evil, and fear of god they used for centuries to keep the masses afraid and enslaved, paying them money for their sins. in italy for example church owns literally 1/4 of the country surface.
little may u know that original teachings of jesus were skewed, everything mystical like reincarnation or spacepeople edited out by the roman church during the councils of nice in ad 325, constantinople in ad 381, ephese in ad 431 and chalcedoine in ad 451. there were others too, but of lesser significance. (source for the dates is thiaoouba prophecy).
you will be ofc be very skeptical of the following source, but it would be very, very foolish to dismiss it.
source i am referring to is sixto paz and mission rahma, peru, a group of contactees who had ongoing contact with guides since early 70s
they give a different, real story about adam, eve, snake and the apple. this event is much older than assumed by many, going back around 60 million years when first "adams and eves" were created, hybrids of primitive humans and genetic engineers from pleiades, 7 elohim.
garden of eden was a 50 km wide ship parked on a now sunken contient of in the indian ocean. basically, it was one of the plaeidian elohim called gadreel who got deceived by the high mental being lucifer-luzbel, and joined the satanael, a reptilian human from orion who was also deceived by this fallen 'angel'. adams and eves were free to roam around the great laboratory ship and eat of any tree except one which had hallucinogenic properties. gadreel told humans to eat the forbidden fruit, he incited them to open the "doors of perception" too early inducing their fall from grace. here is a full account, you can read more here https://prophecyofanrrom.blogspot.com/2020/10/chronology-of-all-times.html
Then, the Pleiadian Geneticists established their great Laboratory-Ship in Lemuria - a continent that has now disappeared located in the Indian Ocean - bringing with them different species of insects and plants from other planets to install and expand the great range that existed in this world. . They also brought with them plants with hallucinogenic properties, which they used to cancel out the accelerated aging process that the Atmosphere of our Planet made them suffer. From relatively evolved primates, with a dose of Pleiadian genes, and through the use of the high genetic engineering of the latter, the first human race was created, whose aim would be to achieve a high evolutionary development, as contemplated in the Cosmic Plan .
Although there are those who believe they have received information that this would have happened a million years ago, others speak of 60 million years. And even, the information received by Talmir, suggests that this happened, not during the Tertiary Era, but at the end of the Secondary: 65 million years ago, or more. (According to scientific sources, at the end of the Secondary Era, the Purgatorius Ceratops, the oldest known primates, already existed - so called because they are contemporaries of the triceratops). Thus, as a result of the experiment, the Elohim obtained a variety of androgynous and hermaphrodite; that is, beings possessed by both sexes. However, this new race was not properly adapted to withstand the conditions on Earth at the time.
The instability of the planet, manifested in continuous and violent volcanic eruptions, added to the unbreathable sulfurous atmosphere and acidic waters, prevented these fragile beings - lacking, in addition, the much needed sense of survival, due to the peaceful life they led within the Lab Ship - could thrive when brought to the surface. For this reason they had to be reconditioned, separating the sexes by high surgery, and modifying their genetics again to make them more resistant.
GADREEL'S BETRAYAL
Once the base of the first Terrestrial Humanity was created, the 7 Genetic Engineers met with the groups of Lemurians in the Laboratory Ship - let us not forget that the gigantic extraterrestrial vehicle functioned as a greenhouse -, and told them:
—You will be able to eat any plant, fruit or seed without contaminating you, but for no reason will you taste the plants found in the Reserved Area, because those species of vegetables are Hallucinogenic Plants. And these could provoke to you visions and perceptions for which you are not yet prepared, and would prevent that in the near future, you develop the faculties that correspond to you to dominate and control, that which goes beyond your physical senses.
»In addition, consuming these Plants would bring about the deterioration of their neurons, initiating an irreversible process of cell death and destruction, which not even we could stop. Their Auras would be equally affected by being torn and would be at the mercy of Entities that are always lurking ... ».
The first Lemurians accepted the recommendation very disciplined not to approach these harmful plants. But one of the Genetic Engineers, an extraterrestrial doctor named Gadriel or Gadreel, had secretly joined Luzbel, and being true to his interests, he sought a way to boycott the program, inducing the first humans to use these forbidden plants.
He met apart with our ancestors and told them: "Try those plants, of which you were advised to keep a reserve." Ignore my companions who are fearful that you may quickly gain power and knowledge. Also, how would science advance without experimentation?
He endorsed them in secret, sponsoring the first experience of drug use by Humanity.
The first Lemurians had a very bad time: their pressure dropped, they felt cold, and when the other Engineers realized the problem, they thought that humans were definitely unpredictable beings, that their curiosity was very dangerous and that they could even put endangering their own safety.
Thus, they decide to abort Project Earth a second time and left in their gigantic Ship.
Regarding the stivep's claim that LC tank does not amplify power... but look at simple ZVS circuit...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFJeIt_JcEc
1A at 12V, so 12W of real input is maintaining reactive power of more than 1kW!
This claim that LC does not amplify power never made sense to me, they say series LC amplifies voltage
at the expense of current and parallel LC amplifies current at expense of voltage...
But, like i said before, look at any resonant system in nature, a spring, a swing, a glass,
WHATEVER...add energy to the system in phase and guess what happens, if resistive
losses are small enough, POWER will build up until self-destruction, well known glass
shattering by singing to it effect.
#250 : but it's jesuit/satanic core, was it 60 million they slaughtered over few centuries of inquisition etc
:'( ,pardon-me and my lack of knowledge and thank to You for enlightenment,
because I thought that the "in quis ... ? "question/-ation was administrated by the (Sancto)Domenico-church order = Domenicans !
to #251 and RLC
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=12&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19880119&CC=US&NR=4720642A&KC=A (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=12&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19880119&CC=US&NR=4720642A&KC=A)
In the macro regime, conventional electrical theory applies with its concepts of resistance, resistive loss, capacitance.
In the quantum regime an energy quantum is totally absorbed by an electron, producing an energetic electron which travels within its potential well, until it penetrates the tunnel junction.
Upon passing through the junction, the electron gives its energy to the electric field, becoming a thermal electron at a greater potential energy. Reverse current through the junction is constant, being limited by the junction structure and electric voltage.
The forward current in the quantum regime is limited only by the input rate of energy quanta.
Hence the forward/reverse current ratio of the Femto Diode may be very large.
The laws of physics which apply to large-scale electrical circuits in the macro regime are different from the quantum electrodynamic laws of physics in the quantum regime.Because of the small current and time intervals concerned, individual electrons are utilized one at a time.
In a Femto Diode, a single electron approaches the barrier travelling over submicron distances with an energy .xi.=h.nu.=Ve.
Consequently, no charge cloud forms at the insulating barrier, and there is therefore no capacitance effect.
The time constant equation is therefore not applicable to the submicron diode of the invention.
The energetic electron in this case is a sole electron in a dipole antenna operating in the quantum regime.
It is subject to quantum regime laws, which are different from the macro-regime RLC laws conventionally applied to antennae.
Since RLC circuit theory does not apply in the quantum regime, the properties of the well-step quantum analysis discussed in connection with FIGS. 3 and 4 applies.
The dipole antenna length b is adjusted to a 1/4 cycle of the light frequency .lambda. so that b=.lambda./4n.
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Well, Jesuits did not exist in first few centuries of inquisition, being formed in 1534, but they slowly took over the Vatican and by 19th century they were fully established after they killed one pope and installed their replacement.
"We shall be expelled like dogs and return like eagles." -Francesco Borgia (3rd Jesuit Superior General from 1565-1572)
THE JESUITS, PRIESTHOOD OF ABSOLUTE EVIL EXPOSED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq_5jvxI9mU
....
Yea quantum tunneling, BTW i corresponded with Brian Josephson around 2012-13., he was a big fan of E-CAT. I asked him then why don't they loop it on itself, he said something like it's not stable enough yet. He's a good guy, naturalist, he is now into bio-self-organizing systems. Quantum biology you may say.
As for RLC, yes it is a macroscopic effect but i disagree quantum phenomena does not apply here. As Academician Gennady F. Ignatyev said "Any element of space-time can be considered as some LC resonance circuit.".
So, we have above an example of ZVS circuit creating many times greater reactive POWER, than used to sustain it. There are other examples of this too.
Also, as i said, all resonant systems fed in phase build up energy even to the point of self destruction.
Resonanz-Katastrophe or resonance disaster https://blog.teufelaudio.com/natural-frequency/
and https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.experimentis.de/wissenschaft/physik-mathe-chemie-videos/weinglas-zerspringt-resonanzkatastrophe/
This thread started interesting but ended with garbage. It's sad. Reactive energy rise can be converted into real power when there is a source of additional energy.
It is only sad how ironic is the garbage you wrote. Firstly, you totally missed the point and mixed apples and oranges.
I just pointed out that, unlike the common claim, in ZVS circuit we have example of POWER amplification in LC tank, not just voltage or current at the expense of the other, reactive power rises many times the input.
I said NOTHING about conversion of that power into real power, obviously, in ZVS and all conventional devices adding a load increases the real input.
In a conventional transformer which can be plugged into wall 24/7 max current flows through the primary, it is essentially a short circuit, but IV are almost 90° outta phase, no real work is done. Putting a load on the secondary brings IV in the primary into phase and now real work is done.
In ZVS in which input is DC load makes current draw to increase.
There is much that could be said about reactive power and ambient energy but no need to go into that, much has been said on this and other forums already.
Little correction, when transformer is plugged into the wall with no load not max current flows in the primary but exciting current which is current needed to establish the flux in the core + current to compensate for eddy and hysteresis core losses. This current is reactive power. Load on the secondary (in wrongly made underunity transformers) causes the primary current to increase and IV phase shift to decrease.
"When resonance occurs in a parallel RLC circuit, a local current circulates between the inductor and the capacitor. This current can be very high, while the circuit current as seen from the source can be low. This phenomenon is used in induction heaters (in the industry for heating metals when necessary, e.g., heating bearings for mounting or dismounting) and in induction cookers (for domestic use).[/size]In such an application a high current is flowing through an inductor, whereas the current provided by the power line is small. This means that the rating of the wires and breakers are much smaller than the current in the inductor."
https://electricalacademia.com/basic-electrical/resonance-series-parallel-rlc-circuit/ (https://electricalacademia.com/basic-electrical/resonance-series-parallel-rlc-circuit/)
Is there any truth in the above statement? Or do every induction heater have a transformer? high voltage/low current primary low voltage/high current secondary? If you use a transformer instead of an inductor can you tap the current from the secondary without increasing the output power from the frequency generator?
Best Wishes, Hermes
My tests proved you can have kind of "overunity" by matching the inductance of primary side of transformer with resonant capacitor, but with ordinary transformer it is only apparent "overunity" - you lower this reactive idle current related to iron core hysteresis looses.
You said "Reactive energy rise can be converted into real power when there is a source of additional energy." which is wrong cause there are many who used reactive power to do real work. Now you say it is possible but not with ordinary transformer. Well, according to some who did it you do NOT need a special transformer.
Some claim REAL overunity in ordinary transformer just by making primary and secondary resonant (with caps) and then putting the output through another same but non-resonant (no caps) transformer.
There is also Flynn method using magnets to divert lenz and many variations of.
Then there is ferroresonance which is usually a loss, has been a big word in OU community for 30+ years and many had apparently moderate to great success with it.
Remember Don Smith's small transformer which allegedly output about 10kW with 12W input for hours during Tesla tech lecture in 1996. Notice NST is connected to a winding which goes around whole transformer and output is taken from two windings which appear to be normal wound. He clearly says he is using ferroresonance in earlier lecture.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHhfNjPk7o4
Then we have this example of ferroresonant transformer outputting 100+ Watt from ~10W input Stivep shared. Inventor is using two frequencies, i think 50 and 150KHz.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbeseiPPCeM
There is also this guy who pumps 2.34kW of reactive power in a big transformer with 105W real input. This should NOT happen according to convention. There is no ZVS here, only passive components, current amplification should produce voltage decrease and vice versa. Yet here we have 130V at 18A.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVgp-gOBqsg
Etc
The biggest question remains what is with conventional claim that RLC tank cannot amplify power, only voltage or current at the expense of the other, yet i see more and more evidence to the contrary.
Think about it, let's take parallel RLC, let's say Q is 30 and we get x30 current amplification in the tank. According to mainstream voltage in the tank is supposed to go down to 1/30. Hm. How. Half of the time all the energy is in form of electric field in the cap, yet voltage is supposed to be 1/30. Makes zero sense. We got that big x30 current stored in the form of a magnetic field and yet when all this energy is poured into the cap it's voltage is superlow. Remember energy in the cap is CV²/2 and energy stored in an inductor LI²/2. If current is big and voltage low how in the world are they supposed to be equal. So this does not add up. Another thing, parallel RLC at resonance has great impedance, theoretically infinite, HOW could it provide resistance to the driving circuit if it's VOLTAGE was not at least equal to it. Obviously if it was any less, it would not be as an open circuit, yet it is, cause parallel RLC is a band stop filter.
I am waiting for my new multimeter and pocket oscilloscope to arrive. This has to be checked.
I have on previous pages and other threads here already shared that there is a secret very advanced space program. No need to repeat that they been on the Moon at least since late 50s with man made saucers etc. Here is another report along the lines.
In December, 1999 (on a Monday - actual date not known),
Engineer Jeremy Clark Packer working with several coworkers
on an oil rig about 30 miles offshore in the Gulf of Mexico near
Corpus Christi, Texas, saw at about 8 p.m. a UFO (or USO)
emerge from the sea. It was calm with no clouds. The UFO
was sighted for about 30 minutes during which time a rumbling
sound was heard and their watches stopped working!There
were no alerts to military maneuvers but out to the west they
saw 25-30 helicopters on maneuvers. Packer describes what
happened next. "All of the helicopters stopped in mid-air, and
something large - very large - surfaced beneath them. "It was a
huge metal object, about the size of our platform! It just came
straight into the air! It hovered over the helicopters for about
two minutes - enough for us to use the telescopes to check it
out!
"It was as large as about two football fields, concave
underneath, with four large bulbous domes in the concave part
of the bottom of it.
"It turned on its side and we saw that it looked like a huge
flying cigar which was tapered at both ends. On the top of the
thing was another concave indent that had lights circling within
in - every color you could possibly imagine! It was beautiful!
We heard the soft rumbling all throughout the sighting.
"Then something amazing happened as we stood there in
disbelief. Like someone turning off a light switch, it was gone.
One second we were all looking through binoculars, telescopes
and through just our eyes. ... It was close enough you didn't
need the devices! Then it was gone...
"The helicopters headed our way and passed us overhead,
again never making a sound. We could see that they had
absolutely no markings. Familiar with the stuff the military
does around here, we knew they weren't military craft. Some
looked like they were stainless steel, almost invisible; some
were jet black." (NEXUS NEW TIMES, Vol. 5, No. 4,
June/July, 1998, "The Twilight Zone: Huge UFO Emerges
From Sea Near Oil Rig," pp 53-54. Emphasis in the original).
All 250 members of the dayshift crew witnessed this. They
noticed afterwards, their watches were all 30 minutes later than
the actual time when they returned to the mainland. One other
curious and astounding fact: The bore that is used on the oil rig
to drill holes in the ocean floor is 140.65 feet thick, solid steel.
It was bent into a V shape!
More in the book THE APOCALYPSE UNFOLDS by Diamond Star
PDF available for free online
Hi nix85,
"When resonance occurs in a parallel RLC circuit, a local current circulates between the inductor and the capacitor. This current can be very high, while the circuit current as seen from the source can be low."
Now I have made the first schematic of Hermes RLC-amplifier: It has a squarewave adjustable frequency generator and a constant current transistor. The transistor will be on when 4 is high and off when 4 is low. The 2k2 resistor is a current limiting resistor. The 100k potentiometer adjust the frequency. C Hertz capacitor alternativly charge and disharge. A big capacitor lower the frequency, while a small capacitor increase the frequency.
The transistor can be any small signal transistor with a safe output power of 625 milliwatt. The 22 ohm is a current limiting resistor limiting the transistor collector current to 0.75 Volt/22 ohm = 34 milliampere. The potentiometer that is connected between the 22 ohm resistor and the transistors emitter can be of any value. The higher value the less collector current. The transistor maximum output power is 9 Volts*34 milliampere = 300 milliwatt. The primary [/size]output between the collector and +9 volt source can be short circuit without burning the transistor. Also the secondary of the transformer can be short circuit without burning the transistor.
I see that [/size]Hermes RLC-amplifier can be used for three things. First find out if there is any larger current circulating between the capacitor and transformer in the RLC circuit. Second a frequency generator for free energy studies and third as a tester for suspected malfunctioning transformer.
[/size]Best Wishes, Hermes[/size]
[/size]http://gratisenergi.se/RLC-amplifier.jpg (http://gratisenergi.se/RLC-amplifier.jpg)[/size][/size]
@Hermes
I seen you asked the same question about ZVS induction heaters on energetic forum. No one replied you for a reason, that source you quoted is false. Loading the circuit dampens the resonance and causes input to increase proportionally.
As for your schematic, i am not sure what you imagine to achieve. RLC amplifiers are an old and common thing, for example below is shown parallel RLC as part of intermediate frequency radio amplifier, RLC increases the gain at the resonant frequency because gain of a common emitter stage is proportional to RL/RE.
Most people still take ancient advanced tech as myths and fantasies. Blind ignorance. Rest assured, even in more recent times 1000-5000 years ago, and especially so in times before that, kings of many nations were in possession of "aerial cars" which often worked on principle of gravity control and sometimes used more 'conventional' jets.
Here i quote from translations of babylonian Sifr'ala and Hakaltha by Yonah N. Ibn A'haron, Jewish six times doctor of mid-eastern lingua, having all possible credit and more to be THE authority on such translations.
Quote from the article https://atlantisquestscience.wordpress.com/myth/ancient-aeronautica/chaldean-aircraft/
In introducing his discoveries, he explained that the 5,000 year old Sifr'ala contained instructions on how to build and pilot an aircraft (Ibn A'haron, 1958)—a sort of Chaldean Viman Vidya it seems! In so doing, the ancient document makes use of a number of technical terms, such as: calibration, crystal indicator, copper coils, graphite rods, vibrating spheres, stable angles, etc. In addition, aeronautical jargon is used, such as: equilibrium, gliding capacity, stability, and wind resistance.
In this ancient text the vehicle is referred to as a marvid. Three spheres were mounted on the underside of the craft [a temple bas relief shows three spheres topside], and copper wire was wound around the main sphere forming an inductive coil. This was attached to the steering mechanism in such a way that the effective number of turns could be varied thereby—also the degree of contact made by the graphite rods (electrical resistors) with the two spheres at the rear of the craft. Thus by the use of one steering control, the craft could allegedly be guided in any direction desired by the pilot.
...
"The privilege of operating a flying machine is great. The knowledge of flight is among the most ancient of our inheritances: A gift from 'those from upon high'. We received it from them as a means of saving many lives." (Translated by Ibn A'haron, 1958)
Also from THE EPIC OF ISHTAR AND IZDUBAR we find quotes such as
At early dawn the shining ranks are massed,
And Erech echoes with the trumpet's blast;
The chosen men of Erech are in line,
And Ishtar in her car above doth shine.
The sixty gods on chargers of the skies,
And Ishtar's chariot before them flies.
Now roars the thunder of great Akkad's cars,
Their brazen chariots as blazing stars,
Through Nuk-khu's [darkness] depth with
streams of blazing fire
Thus fall upon the foe with vengeful ire.
The smoking earth shakes underneath their wheels,
And from each cloud their thunder loudly peals.
The Akkad on their foes have fiercely hurled
Their solid ranks with Nin-rad's flag unfurled.
The charging lines meet with a fearful sound,
As tempests' waves from rocks in rage rebound;
The foe thus meet the men of Izdubar,
While o'er the field fly the fierce gods of war.
The foe beheld the gods in wrath above
As Akkad's charging lines toward them move,
The gods now rushing from the gleaming sky,
With blazing weapons carry victory;
Notice the similarty to indian war epics describing Vimanas, aerials chariots of the kings and "gods" often possessing incredible weapons. Some of them are said to be able to fly at speed of sound and some at speed of thought and able to reach other planets and even other planes of existence. Even aerial routes are given, not only for this plane but for all 7 planes surrounding Earth.
Best known sources that mention Vimanas are Mahābhārata and Rāmāyaṇa but Vimanas are not described only in these war epics, there are like 30 ancient indian texts which talk about these aerials cars and how to build them.
Vimanas in Ramayana
Pushpaka Vimana is described similar to a huge Jumbo Jet in Sundara Kanda and Yuddha Kanda.
Vibhishana says that after lunch Rama can reach Ayodhya before sunset if he travels in Pushpaka Vimana.
He says with Pushpaka Vimana, about 2200 KM can be travelled in less than 5 hours.
Which means it can travel at 440 KMPH !!
It Carried Rama, Sita, Lakshmana along with entire Vanara army. So it must be of great dimension.
https://www.booksfact.com/technology/ancient-technology/different-vimanas-ramayana.html
Mahavira of Bhavabhuti (A Jain text of the eighth century culled from
older texts and traditions) describes aerial chariots, known as the Pushpakas
that conveyed many people to the capital of Ayodhya.
"The sky was full of stupendous flying-machines, dark as night, but picked out by lights with a yellowish glare."
In ancient vedic text Sabha-Paryana besides Vimanas are described "flying cities". They shone like silver, and they contained much food, water, a variety of drinks and all other necessities of life, and various defensive weapons of great destructive power. They could accommodate up to a thousand people. There are also similar descriptions of "flying cities" in the Mahabharata that could move and ascend high into the sky on their own and descend to the ground. On them was a huge door through which smaller aircraft (vimana) could fly in and out.
There is an alleged description of a battle of Atlantis and India in Ramayana that extended to the surface of the Moon.
Dr. Pinotti, said another text, 'Samarangana Sutradhara' had 230 stanzas devoted to the principles of building Vimanas and their use in peace and war.
"Having spoken thus, Maharaja Nirga made a complete circle around Lord Krishna and touched his crown to the Lord's feet. Granted permission to depart, King Nirga then boarded a wonderful celestial car as all the people looked on." (Bhagavata Purana)
"While Dhruva Maharaja was passing through space, he saw, in succession, all the planets of the solar system, and on the path he saw all the demigods in their vimanas showering flowers upon him like rain." (Bhagavata Purana)
"He traveled in that way through the various planets, as the air passes freely in every direction. Coursing through the air in that grand and splendid vimana, which could fly at will, he surpassed even the Devas." (Bhagavata Purana)
"Then the highly intelligent Asura Maya built the cities . . . There were many palaces with gems. Aerial cars shining like the sun, set with Padmaraga stones, moving in all directions and looking like moonbeams, illuminated the cities." (Siva Purana)
"When morning dawned, Rama, taking the Celestial Car Puspaka had sent to him by Vivpishand, stood ready to depart. Self-propelled was that car. It was large and finely painted. It had two stories and many chambers with windows, and was draped with flags and banners. It gave forth a melodious sound as it coursed along its airy way." (Ramayana)
"The Puspaka Car, that resembles the sun and belongs to my brother, was brought by the powerful Ravan; that aerial and excellent car, going everywhere at will, is ready for thee. That car, resembling a bright cloud in the sky, is in the city of Lanka." (Ramayana)
"Beholding the car coming by force of will Rama attained to an excess of astonishment. And the king got in, and the excellent car, at the command of Raghira, rose up into the higher atmosphere. And in that car, coursing at will, Rama greatly delighted." (Ramayana)
"When the Daityas were being slaughtered they again took to their vimana and, employing the Danava science, flew up into the sky . . . I (Arjuna) assaulted their vimana . . . Wounded by the flight of deadly-accurate iron missiles, the Asura vimana fell broken to the earth . . . Matali swiftly descended earthward, as in a steep dive, on our divinely effulgent car." (Mahabharata)
"Karna took up that fierce weapon, which resembled the tongue of the Destroyer or the Sister of Death. That terrible and effulgent dart, Naikartana, was hurled at the Rakshasa. Beholding that excellent and blazing weapon . . . the Rakshasa began to fly away in fear . . . Destroying that blazing illusion of Ghatotkacha and piercing right through his breast that resplendent dart soared aloft in the night . . . Ghatotkacha, then uttering diverse roars, fell, deprived of life by the dart of Sakra." (Mahabharata)
"The vimana had all necessary equipment. It could not be conquered by the gods or demons. And it radiated light and reverberated with a deep rumbling sound. Its beauty captivated the minds of all who beheld it. Visvakarma, the lord of its design and construction, had created it by the power of his austerities, and its outline, like that of the sun, could not be easily delineated.
(Mahabharata)
"And he also gave [unto Arjuna] a car furnished with celestial weapons whose banner bore a large ape . . . And its splendour, like that of the Sun, was so great that no one could gaze at it. It was the very car riding upon which the lord Soma had vanquished the Danavas. Resplendent with beauty, it looked like an evening cloud reflecting the effulgence of the setting Sun."
(Mahabharata)
"Bhima flew along in his car, resplendent as the sun and loud as thunder . . . The flying chariot shone like a flame in the night sky of summer . . . it swept by like a comet . . . It was if two suns were shining. Then the chariot rose up and all the heavens brightened." (Mahabharata)
"And on this sunlike, divine, wonderful chariot the wise disciple of Kuru flew joyously upward. When becoming invisible to the mortals who walk the earth, he saw wondrous airborne chariots by the thousands." (Mahabharata)
"And the celebrated Arjuna, having passed through successive regions of the heavens, at last beheld the city of Indra. And there he beheld celestial cars by thousands stationed in their respective places [an airport?] and capable of going everywhere at will, and he saw tens of thousands of such cars moving in every direction." (Mahabharata)
"And having vanquished his foe, Krishna furnished with weapons and unwounded and accompanied by the kings, came out of Girivraja riding on that celestial car . . . upon that car Krishna now came out of the hill-fort. Possessed of the splendour of heated gold, and decked with rows of jingling bells . . . always slaughtering the foe against whom it was driven, it was the very car riding upon which Indra had slain ninety-nine Asuras of old."
(Mahabharata)
"And thereupon that best of cars became still more dazzling with its splendour and was incapable of being looked at by created beings, as the midday sun surrounded by a thousand rays . . . And Achyuta, that tiger among men, riding with the two sons of Pandu upon that celestial car . . .coming out of Girivraja, stopped (for some time) on a level plain outside of town." (Mahabharata)
"We beheld in the sky what appeared to us to be a mass of scarlet cloud resembling the fierce flames of a blazing fire. From that mass many blazing missiles flashed, and tremendous roars, like the noise of a thousand drums beaten at once. And from it fell many weapons winged with gold and thousands of thunderbolts, with loud explosions, and many hundreds of fiery wheels. Loud became the uproar of falling horses, slain by these missiles, and of mighty elephants struck by the explosions . . . Those terrible Rakshasas had the shape of large mounds stationed in the sky." (Mahabharata)
"Vimanas, decked and equipped according to rule, looked like heavenly structures in the sky . . .borne away they looked like highly beautiful flights of birds. (Mahabharata)
"Gifted with great energy the Rakshasa once more came down to Earth in his golden vimana . . .when it had landed it looked like a beautifully shaped mound of antimony on the surface of the ground." (Ghatotrachabadma)
"The splendid chariot, made of silver and coated with tiger-skin, and bright like the fire itself, making a noise like the roaring of the clouds; defying all obstacles, adorned with jewels and gold, dazzling to the eyesight and bright . . . went speedily on, making space resound like unto the muttering cloud in the sky. He issued out of his abode like the beautiful moon passing through a huge cloud." (Ayodhya Kandam, XVI, pp. 235-236)
"Manufacturing details of these machines are withheld for the sake of secrecy, not out of ignorance." (Samarangana Sutradhara)
"The airplane occupied by Salva was very mysterious. It was so extraordinary that
sometimes many airplanes would appear to be in the sky, and sometimes there were
apparently none. Sometimes the plane was visible and sometimes not visible, and the
warriors of the Yadu dynasty were puzzled about the whereabouts of the peculiar
airplane. Sometimes they would see the airplane on the ground, sometimes flying in the
sky, sometimes resting on the peak of a hill and sometimes floating on the water. The
wonderful airplane flew in the sky like a whirling firebrand - it was not steady even for a
moment." [ Bhaktivedanta, Swami Prabhupada, Krsna ]
"Cuka, flying on board a high-powered vimana, hurled on to the triple city a single projectile charged with all the power of the universe. An incandescent column of smoke and flame, as bright as ten thousand suns, rose in all the splendor... When the vimana returned to Earth, it looked like a splendid block of antimony resting on the ground."
[ Mausola Purva ]
"O King, this beautifully decorated airplane had been manufactured by the demon Maya and was equipped with weapons for all types of combat. It was inconceivable and indescribable. Indeed, it was sometimes visible and sometimes not. Seated in this airplane under a beautiful protective umbrella and being fanned by the best of camaras, Maharaja Bai, surrounded by his captains and commanders, appeared just like the moon rising in the evening, illuminating all directions."
[ Swami Prabhupada Bhaktivedanta, Srimad Bhagavatam ]
The writer and Sanskrit scholar Subramanyam Iyer has spent many years of his life deciphering old collections of palm leaves found in the villages of his native Karnataka in southern India. One of the palm leaf manuscripts they intend to decipher is the Amsu Bodhini, which, according to an anonymous text of 1931, contains information about the planets; the different kinds of light, heat, color, and electromagnetic fields; the methods used to construct machines capable of attracting solar rays and, in turn, of analyzing and separating their energy components; the possibility of conversing with people in remote places and sending messages by cable; and the manufacture of machines to transport people to other planets!
Outside Babylon and India we find these references.
"Harshacharita ("Deeds of Harsha"), 7th century biography of Indian emperor Harsha, speaks of a flying machine made by a Greek who had been taken prisoner. Laufer notes that the term for the aerial machine in this tale is 'a mechanical vehicle (yantray_na) which travels on the surface of the air'."
The following selections are from Dr. Benjamin B. Olshin, "Mechanical Mythology: Private Descriptions of Flying Machines as Found in Early Chinese, Korean, Indian, and Other Texts",
"The Chi Kung people were good at making mechanical devices for killing [all kinds of] birds. They could also make aerial carriages which, with a fair wind, traveled great distances. In the time of the emperor Thang [mid-second millennium B.C.], a westerly wind carried such a car as far as Yüchow, whereupon Thang had the car taken to pieces, not wishing his own people to see it. Ten years later there came an easterly wind (of sufficient strength), and then the car was reassembled and the visitors were sent back to their own country, which lies 40,000 li beyond the Jade Gate."
[ Chang Hua, "Po Wu Chih" ('Record of Investigation of Things') in the Po Wu Chih ]
"Some use the inner part of the jujube [=date] tree to make a flying vehicle, using ox leather straps fastened to encircling blades, so as to propel this machine. Some others have the idea of making five snakes, six dragons, and three oxen [these are kites in the shape of these animals] encounter the 'hard wind', and so ride it (i.e., the vehicle), rising up 40 li. [That region] is called the Tai Qing ('Area of Upper Air'). In the Tai Qing region, the air is very hard, and can lift people. The Master says that a yuan [this word can mean 'kite' or 'hawk'] flying, spiraling higher and higher, only needs to straighten out its two wings and not flap them any more to move forward, because it is riding on the hard wind. The dragons when they first rise up, step on the clouds, going to 40 li [altitude], then fly by themselves. This account comes from the [Taoist] adepts, and is recounted, being handed down to ordinary people, yet the common people are not really able to understand it."
[ Ko Hung (A.D. 283-343), Pao Pu Tzu ]
Etc...
Who in their right mind can read all these quotes realizing they are but a tiny portion of similar quotes and dismiss them as fantasies.
I have intentionally omitted the Vimanika Shastra because it was allegedly obtained by channeling, something most people (foolishly) dismiss. In the case you don't here it is.
http://upload.vedpuran.net/Uploads/121113the_vimanika_shastra.pdf
Don't get me wrong, 99,9999% of channeling especially modern youtube ones are complete and utter bs, but some especially older ones are not and contain very valuable info.
Speech by Capt. Bodas at Indian Science Congress 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt5W-VCgNJ0&list=PL5dagX987n_X-ZeSDQXZ7TfDHECo1Xnoi&index=1&ab_channel=VimanVidya
Vimana animation
https://youtu.be/3p9zlwHBeqU?t=279
Just so you know certain groups ALWAYS had the secret of degravitation on this planet, throughout history, even the most savage and depraved ages, safe in remote retreats certain 'brotherhoods' carefully watched over the secret of the ages. Yet no secret can be held and degravitation has been re-discovered countless times since the advent of power electronics in mid 19th century onward and this is just one of many such examples.
Few more quotes
"O disciple, a student in the science of government, sail in
oceans in steamers, fly in the air in airplanes, know God the creator through the
Vedas, control thy breath through yoga, through astronomy know the functions
of day and night, know all the Vedas, Rig, Yajur, Sama and Atharva, by means
of their constituent parts."
"Through astronomy, geography, and geology, go thou to all the different
countries of the world under the sun. Mayest thou attain through good
preaching to statesmanship and artisanship, through medical science obtain
knowledge of all medicinal plants, through hydrostatics learn the different
uses of water, through electricity understand the working of ever lustrous
lightening. Carry out my instructions willingly." (Yajur-veda 6.21).
"O royal skilled engineer, construct sea-boats, propelled on water by our experts,
and airplanes, moving and flying upward, after the clouds that reside in the midregion,
that fly as the boats move on the sea, that fly high over and below the
watery clouds. Be thou, thereby, prosperous in this world created by the
Omnipresent God, and flier in both air and lightning." (Yajur-veda 10.19).
"The atomic energy fissions the ninety-nine elements, covering its path by
the bombardments of neutrons without let or hindrance. Desirous of
stalking the head, ie. The chief part of the swift power, hidden in the mass
of molecular adjustments of the elements, this atomic energy approaches it
in the very act of fissioning it by the above-noted bombardment. Herein,
verily the scientists know the similar hidden striking force of the rays of the
sun working in the orbit of the moon." (Atharva-veda 20.41.1-3).
Kathasaritsagara, 11th-century collection of Indian legends, refers to highly
talented woodworkers called Rajyadhara and Pranadhara. The former was so
skilled in mechanical contrivances that he could make ocean crossing chariots.
And the latter manufactured a flying chariot to carry a thousand passengers in
the air. These chariots were stated to be as fast as thought itself.
The Rig Veda, the oldest document of the human race includes references to the following modes of transportation:
Jalayan - a vehicle designed to operate in air and water. (Rig Veda 6.58.3)
Kaara - a vehicle that operates on ground and in water. (Rig Veda 9.14.1)
Tritala - a vehicle consisting of three stories. (Rig Veda 3.14.1)
Trichakra Ratha - a three-wheeled vehicle designed to operate in the air. (Rig Veda 4.36.1)
Vaayu Ratha - a gas or wind-powered chariot. (Rig Veda 5.41.6)
Vidyut Ratha - a vehicle that operates on power. (Rig Veda 3.14.1).
The Arthasastra of Kautilya (c. 3rd century B.C.) mentions amongst various tradesmen and technocrats the Saubhikas as ' pilots conducting vehicles in the sky'. Saubha was the name of the aerial flying city of King Harishchandra and the form 'Saubika' means 'one who flies or knows the art of flying an aerial city.' Kautilya uses another significant word 'Akasa Yodhinah', which has been translated as 'persons who are trained to fight from the sky.' The existence of aerial chariots, in whatever form it might be, was so well-known that it found a place among the royal edicts of the Emperor Asoka which were executed during his reign from 256 B.C. - 237 B. C.
"Now Vata's chariot's greatness! Breaking goes it, And Thunderous is its noise, To heaven it touches, Makes light lurid [a red fiery glare], and whirls dust upon the earth."
(Rig-Veda - Vata is the Aryan god of wind)
nix85
QuoteJust so you know certain groups ALWAYS had the secret of degravitation on this planet, throughout history, even the most savage and depraved ages, safe in remote retreats certain 'brotherhoods' carefully watched over the secret of the ages. Yet no secret can be held and degravitation has been re-discovered countless times since the advent of power electronics in mid 19th century onward and this is just one of many such examples.
I would agree, and around 1859 Daniel McFarland Cook demonstrated rotary then motionless free energy devices to many people. He also claimed to have discovered the secret to antigravity. Here is an excellent video https://vimeo.com/31399217
https://www.richlandsource.com/area_history/mansfields-d-m-cook-and-his-enduring-energy-idea/article_fbac1344-779e-11e3-8a2f-10604b9f7e7e.html
The video is really good, here we have a man in 1859 who not only invented the light bulb years before Edison but also free energy and antigravity. Like most FE inventors of the time we can see his time line of progress...
1)He was researching telluric currents and atmospheric anomalies.
2)From this research he invented FE motor-generators.
3)After inventing FE motor-generators he learned how to build motionless FE generators.
4)The research from motionless FE generators eventually led to the discovery of anti-gravity phenomena.
It's mind boggling that so many people from as early as the mid 1800's discovered what still eludes us today. With all our technology, supposed intelligence and theory we still cannot do what a man from 1859 did with basic hand tools in a wooden shed.
There is another common thread between all these FE inventors of the past. Above all else they were curious about nature and how it works. Why the stuff we see all around us acts like it does. No global communications or internet, hell they would be hard pressed to even find a book let alone one that explained basic electrical theory. All these great men did hands on experiments with basic tools learning as they went along to find the truth of the matter.
I find Daniel McFarland Cook's story truly inspirational in this respect...
Regards
AC
I am fully aware of Cook's incredible work, that he invented the light bulb, solid state overunity and allegedly degravitation too, sadly he never demonstrated it and all that is left is his 'antigravity' chicken hoop. He spent 30+ years doing experiments with magnetism, i read through his papers. Floyd Sweet's circuit is basically a copy paste of Cook's patent.
Yea, people back in the day were naturalists, altho even back then already existed the false ideology which forbade overunity, gravity control and anything alike.
Some more quotes first one along the more primitive kind of flight
Sage Agastya is mentioned in Mahabharata of 4000 BC. The "Agastya Samhita", ancient document on gems, gives Agastya's descriptions of two types of aeroplanes. The first is a "chchatra" (umbrella or balloon) to be filled with hydrogen. The process of extracting hydrogen from water is described in elaborate detail and the use of electricity in achieving this is clearly stated. This was stated to be a primitive type of plane, useful only for escaping from a fort when the enemy had set fire to the jungle all around. Hence the name "Agniyana". The second type of aircraft mentioned is somewhat on the lines of the parachute. It could be opened and shut by operating chords. This aircraft has been described as "vimanadvigunam" i.e. of a lower order than the regular aeroplane.
And scientific analysis of above mentioned Samarangana Sutradhara, 11th century text attributed to King Bhoja. I personally don't like this one too much because it implies mercury is used as jet propulsion. This probably was so in case of these vimanas, but mercury is usually used for gravitational effects. It seems the newer the reference more primitive the technology.
"There are two types of Vimanas described in Samarangana Sutradhara of Bhojadeva. They are Laghu Dharu vimana and Alaghu Dharu vimana. Bhoja deva in his text has also mentioned that he personally has seen a few of the vimanas which he has described."
Laghu Dharu Vimana
Verses 95-96 of chapter 31 of Samarangana Sutradhara describes Laghu Dharu vimana. It is the most fascinating yantra described by Bhojadeva in his works. Even though he gives the barest details, this book is one of the few sanskrit texts which speaks about the actual construction of vimanas. (Sharma 2012:380-81)
"Laghu dharumayam mahavihangam dhruda suslishta tanum vidhaaya tasya|
Udare rasayantram aadadeetha jvalanaadhaaramadho asya chaati poornam||
Taroodaha purushastasya pakshadwandwochaallaprojjitena anilena|
Sputasvantaha Paaradasyasya shaktya chitram kurvannambare yaati dooram||"
According to Bhojadeva main material of the body of vimana is lightwood-,,Laghu Dharu‟, shape of the vimana is that of a huge bird-,,maha vihanga‟ with a wing on both the sides. He explains that the internal structure has a fire chamber with mercury placed over flame which acts as a motive force. The power generated by the heated mercury, helped by the concurrent action of the wings which are flapped by a rider inside, makes the yantra go up and travel far. (Raghavan 1952:23-24)
Alaghu Dharu Vimana
Verses 97-98 of chapter 31 of Samarangana Sutradhara describes Alaghu Dharu vimana which is a heavier Dharu vimana. (Sharma 2012:381-82)
"Ityameva suramandiratulyam sanchalatyam alaghu dharuvimanam|
Aadadheetha vidhinaa chaturo antastasya paradabruthan drudhakumbhaam||
Ataha kapaala ahita manda vahni pratapta tat kumbha bhuvaa gunena|
Vyomno jhagityabharanatvameti santapta garjad rasarajashaktya||"
While laghu Dharu vimana is in the shape of bird, alaghu Dharu vimana is in the shape of temple. It flies along a heavy aerial car made of wood. It is a heavier Dharu vimana which contains four pitchers of mercury over iron ovens. When mercury i.e. ,,rasaraja‟ is heated, it explodes quickly and becomes an object of decoration in the sky mainly because of pots heated by the slow ignition burnt within the steel or Iron potsherds. Indologist ,,William Clendenon‟ has described Mercury Vortex Engine in his translation of Smarangana Sutradhara as follows.
"Inside the circular air frame, place the mercury engine with its electric/ultrasonic mercury boiler at the bottom center. By means of the power latent in the mercury which sets the driving whirlwind in motion a man sitting inside may travel a great distance in the sky in a most marvelous manner. Four strong mercury containers must be built into the interior structure. When these have been heated by controlled fire from iron containers, the vimana develops thunder-power through the mercury. And at once it becomes like a pearl in the sky." (Childress 1991:256)
According to Bhojadeva the boiling mercury ovens produce a terrific noise which can scare away the elephants. Hence it is used in battles for the same purpose. The roar could be increased by strengthening the mercury chambers, so that elephants are thrown completely out of control. This specific military use of aircraft against elephants tempts one to suggest that the Hasti-yantra advocated by Kautilya against elephants was something like the heavier Dharu-vimana described by Bhoja. (Raghavan 1952:24)
https://www.iosrjournals.org/iosr-jhss/papers/Vol20-issue12/Version-5/D0201251620.pdf
All in all, there is no doubt flight is not a privilege of modern times, in fact, public flight technology of today is far more primitive than it was in times bygone.
For more fascinating references to ancient aviation read chapter 4
https://ug1lib.org/book/5235463/72c6e8?id=5235463&secret=72c6e8
Also this doc, youtube will not show it even if you enter the title with exact quotes,
you gotta scroll way down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbWMw249xY8
In attachment interesting book 64 Secrets Still Ahead of Us By Jonathan Gray with legend from Bolivia i been looking for for a long time and couldn't find it again till now.
Content of the whole book:
Cartography
1. Maps more accurate than ours
2. Complex 3-dimensional map made with unknown
technology
Astronomy
3. Knowledge of planet beyond Pluto
4. Calendars more accurate than ours
Metallurgy
5. Bronze harder than we can make
6. Iron that will not corrode
Everyday items
7. Enormous castings of pure iron (we can't)
8. Alloy processes not yet discovered
9. Copper hardened by an undiscovered process
10. Silver that does not tarnish
11. Gold plating technique superior to ours
Construction size and techniques
12. Architecture beyond our scope today
13. Lifting capabilities beyond ours
- engineering feats never equalled since
14. Larger than our biggest modern buildings
15. Surface smoothing and fitting accuracy superior to ours
16. More accurate standard of measurement
17. Construction speed superior to ours
18. Buildings which are virtually indestructible
19. Shaking towers – a secret unknown
20. Cement superior to modern Portland cement
21. A process for softening hard rock
22. Non-circular, 5-point-star shaped holes drilled
23. Drills faster than modern power drills
24. Ability to slice through hardest materials without
friction or heat
25. Interlocking tunnels thousands of miles in length under
land and sea
26. Canals and dams larger than ours
27. Construction methods beyond our present capability
Town planning
28. Town planning for centuries ahead – nowhere done
today
Mechanical – electronic
29. Robot , long buried, able to shriek and flap its
wings
Everyday items
30....Books composed of gold leaves
Clothing, textiles
31. Cotton grown in various colours
32. Textiles finer than is possible in a modern loom
Art, sculpture
33. Three dimensional effect by luminous paints
34. Finest stone engraving in the world
35. Mysteriously high carvings
36. Art visible only in a photograph (also visible/invisible
art)
37. Neon bright "movie" in granite
38. Crystal skull beyond our ability to produce
Health, medical
39. Currently incurable diseases cured with medicines
today unknown
40. Obsidian instruments 1,000 times sharper than today's
conventional surgical blades
41. Skull operations technically superior to our own
Electricity
42. Perpetual lamp able to burn for 2,000 years
43. More known about matter, light, and ether properties
than we know
44. Inexplicable paired TV screen transmission
45. Book TV with vanishing pictures
Surveying
46. Cross-country lines laid out straighter than by the best
of modern survey techniques
Flight
47. Aircraft able to fly straight up, down, forwards, or
backwards
48. Manouvers that helicopters can perform today only
partially
49. Ability to hear conversations in enemy planes
50. Flight powered by mercury
51. Specified tricks in flight to deceive an enemy (and
formulas that would revolutionise modern aviation)
52. Flight powered by sound waves
53. Electromagnetic energy from the atmosphere
54. Vehicles adapted to travel both in the sky as well as on
or under the sea
Intriguing secrets
55. A container which weighs the same whether full or
empty
56. Fire which burns in water
57. Singing statues
58. Large public baths heated by the flame of a single
candle
59. Objects suspended indefinitely in mid air
60. Alchemy (transmuting one metal into a different metal)
61. Invisibility apparatus
62. Visible then invisible, bridge
63. Time viewing devices
64. Brain transplants
And what about human levitation, in case you did not see this African shaman filmed by German TV crew in 1989, 0% possibility of fakery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW6pVFOpE6Q
@Lanca Yea i know the story of Tibetan sound levitation.
Also these Russians, but are these real stones or. Hm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LILH5L9ys5c
And what about this 500,000 year old ceramic spark plug found inside a rock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR86JqKP8BQ
What about this pyramid under 40 metres of water near Terceira Island in the Azores.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9C0VabifwY
http://portuguese-american-journal.com/terceira-subaquatic-pyramidal-shaped-structure-found-azores/
500,000 year old, 1920s ceramic champion brand, spark plug, because aliens use gas engines.
https://www.booksfact.com/archeology/the-coso-artifact-spark-plug.html
Pyramid shaped rock ?
I removed the cross cause it's kinda been debunked, i read the debunking years ago but forgot, basically according to the skeptic number of points on Chatelain's cross are not really location of any temple or at least not well known ones.
Pyramid where once Poseida, Atlantis was, logical.
Is gas engine only use of spark plug. Spark gap has million uses. And they assumed it's a spark plug, as far as i see it might be a capacitor and an inductor.
Personally, I think it is reasonable to think, that intelligent species other than our own
might roam the universe.
But I also think that, really bad proof is worse than no proof.
Now that i posted the Azores undersea pyramid, i might as well quote from Dweller on two planets, in my opinion, the most important occult text ever given to mankind, a brief description of their flying spindles. These aluminum spindles were capable of flying at the speed of earth's rotation east west and west east but only about 150 miles/h north south south north. They were operated by what we today call cold electricity.
"Our vailx was of the middle traffic-size, these vessels being made in four standard lengths: number one, about twenty-five feet; number two, eighty feet; number three, something like one hundred and fifty-five feet, while the largest was yet two hundred feet longer than the third size. These long spindles were in fact round, hollow needles of aluminum, formed of an outer and an inner shell between which were many thousands of double T braces, an arrangement productive of intense rigidity and strength. All the partitions made other braces of additional resistant force. From amidships the vessels tapered toward either end to sharp points. Most vailxi were provided with an arrangement allowing, when desired, an open promenade deck at one end. Windows of crystal, of enormous resistant strength, were in rows like portholes along the sides, a few on top, and others set in the floor, thus affording a view in all directions."
Personally, I think it is reasonable to think, that intelligent species other than our own
might roam the universe.
But I also think that, really bad proof is worse than no proof.
also
All this aliens stuff is off topic.
Electronic component inside a rock dated half million years is surely not a bad proof. If that's bad i don't know what's good proof for you.
And im not talking about aliens but our ancient civilization.
Quote from: nix85 on October 12, 2021, 02:09:20 PM
Pyramid where once Poseida, Atlantis was, logical.
Is gas engine only use of spark plug. Spark gap has million uses. And they assumed it's a spark plug, as far as i see it might be a capacitor and an inductor.
1920s Champion brand, spark plug.
https://www.booksfact.com/archeology/the-coso-artifact-spark-plug.html
1920s Champion brand, spark plug.
https://www.booksfact.com/archeology/the-coso-artifact-spark-plug.html
Also at wikkipedia
Champion spark plug wikkipedia
Well, seeing that hexagonal shape around i also tend to believe it is modern.
Even if so, this is just one in the ocean of similar not-debunked artifacts.
Quote from: nix85 on October 12, 2021, 02:52:03 PM
Well, seeing that hexagonal shape around i also tend to believe it is modern.
Even if so, this is just one in the ocean of similar not-debunked artifacts.
I have been looking at this kind of stuff since the 1970s, and there is no
"ocean of similar not-debunked artifacts".
This is not debunked either ... Captain nemos submarine !
What about the Bimini underwater city. Hoax or not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT9cIrUO8Ig
Quote from: Floor on October 12, 2021, 03:03:33 PM
I have been looking at this kind of stuff since the 1070s, and there is no
"ocean of similar not-debunked artifacts".
This is not debunked either ... Captain nemos submarine !
What. There has been more buried back or hidden than has been published.
You obviously did not study Michael Cremo's work and alike.
Father Crespo's collection..
Etc.
What about Yonagumi, are you calling that natural formation.
There are real underwater cities in various places around the world.
I saw that "In search of" episode when it was new.
I have seen actual footage from the "Bimini wall" sight not just this "recreation" video.
Definitly could be / seem more like, natural rock formations.
Or what about this, BTW i sent Jack Churchward this case.
... A few years later Dr. Robert J. Menzies, director of Duke University's Oceanographic Program, and his colleagues spotted and photographed carved rock columns resting on a muddy plain 6,000 ft. underwater, in the 600-mile-long Milne-Edward Deep, a trench off the coast of Peru.
Strange writing was carved on the columns and nearby, sonar detected strange lumps on the otherwise level bottom, indicative of possible building ruins. Menzies, from the research ship Anton Bruun, stated that the find suggested evidence of a sunken city, as reported in the New York Times, April 17, 1966.
https://blog.my-mu.com/pacific-proof-of-a-sunken-city/
I seen Bimini wall footage too but that is not the same, this talks about actual city, pyramid etc. Totally different stuff.
So you believe in undersea cities, then don't dismiss there are out of place artifacts. Well, these undersea structures ARE such artifacts.
Quote from: nix85 on October 12, 2021, 03:18:43 PM
I seen Bimini wall footage too but that is not the same, this talks about actual city, pyramid etc. Totally different stuff.
So you believe in undersea cities, then don't dismiss there are out of place artifacts. Well, these undersea structures ARE such artifacts.
NO !
I don't believe in under water cities.
I know that there are, well documented and utterly undeniable underwater cities.
The Bimini wall and Yonaguni, don't even begin to fall into that kind of a class.
Have you seen this documentary below ...
P.S.
this is all off topic...
QuoteI know that there are, well documented and utterly undeniable underwater cities.
Then be so kind and share those "undeniable underwater cities" with us.
What i shared so far is the best evidence of such cities as far as i know, i did not mention the one allegedly filmed by sonar on 700 meters near Cuba some 20 years ago...
Other proof i know of is only more deniable than these so i'd love to see your "undeniable" evidence.
Or maybe you confused a shipwreck with an underground city.
Port Royal Jamaica
Dwarka India
pavlopetri Greece
Thonis-Heracleion Egypt
Port Royal Jamaica
Lapita Micronesia
Tiquina Bolivia
Of course there are ruins underwater, i know few of those. Was just reading about Thonis i knew about for years...
https://www.arabnews.com/node/1898541/middle-east
But obviously, we are not talking 2000-3000 year old ruins of known civilizations that don't question the official history, but much older ones (altho Dwarka as far as i remember might be ~10,000 years old so it more less qualifies), we are talking Atlantis and Mu.
Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frisland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lshgOQdZQLo
Did massive island sink into the north Atlantic few hundred years ago?
We know small volcanic islands relatively often appear and disappear.
Hale to Atlantis. Mother of civilazation.
Skepticism about existence of Atlantis and Mu is only the result of lack of research.
Actually, Mu is much older, Atlantis is a later colony. I quote below almost a whole chapter from Thiaoouba Prophecy, one of the best contactee books, about daily life in Mu and it's destruction some 14,500 yeas ago.
Delving into the psychosphere
We followed Lationusi who led us into another part of the doko - the relaxation
area where one can relax completely and no external sound can penetrate. Here,
Latoli and two of the 'elders' left us. Lationusi, Thao, Biastra and I remained.
Thao explained that, because my psychic powers were not sufficiently
developed and refined, and, in order to participate in an important and very
special experience, I would be obliged to take a special elixir. It was a matter of
'delving' into the psychosphere, of the planet Earth at the time of the
disappearance of Mu, that is, 14 500 years ago, she explained.
My understanding of the term 'psychosphere' is as follows:
Around each planet, since its creation, is a kind of psychosphere or vibratory
cocoon, which turns at a speed seven times that of light. This cocoon acts as a
blotter, as it were, absorbing (and remembering absolutely every event
occurring on the planet. The contents of this cocoon are inaccessible to us on
Earth - we have no way of 'reading the story'.
It is well known that, in the USA, researchers and technicians are employed to
develop a 'time machine' but, up to the present time, their efforts have been
without success. The difficulty exists, according to Thao, in adapting to the
vibrations of the cocoon, rather than to wavelengths. The human being,
comprising an integral part of the universe can, because of his Astral body and if
he is correctly trained, draw what knowledge he seeks from within the
psychosphere. Of course, great training is required for this. 'This elixir will allow
you access to the psychosphere, Michel'.
All four of us made ourselves comfortable in a special bed. I was placed in the
centre of a triangle formed by Thao, Biastra and Lationusi. I was handed a goblet
containing a liquid, which I drank.
Biastra and Thao then placed their fingers lightly on my hand and my solar
plexus, while Lationusi put his index finger above my pineal gland. They told me
to relax completely and not be afraid, regardless of what happened. We would be
travelling in Astral body and I would be under their guidance and so, quite safe.
That time is engraved on my memory forever. The longer Thao spoke to me
softly and slowly, the less afraid I was.
I must confess however, that initially, I was very frightened. Suddenly, in spite
of my closed eyes, I was dazzled by the colours of the whole spectrum, which
danced and shone. I could see my three companions around me, radiant with
colour, but at the same time, translucent.
The village slowly blurred below us.
I had the bizarre impression that four silver cords attached us to our physical
bodies, which were assuming the proportions of mountains.
Suddenly, a flash of blinding white gold crossed my 'vision' and for some time
afterwards, I neither saw nor felt anything.
A ball, brilliant like the sun but silver in colour, appeared in space and
approached at an incredible speed. We hurried through, I should say, I hurried
through for, at that moment, I was no longer aware of the presence of my
companions. When I had penetrated this silvery atmosphere, I could make out no
more than the 'fog' that surrounded me. It's impossible to say what time period
was involved but, quite suddenly, the fog dissipated, revealing a rectangular
room, with a low ceiling, in which two men sat cross-legged on marvellously
coloured cushions.
The walls of the room were of finely sculptured stone blocks, scenes of
contemporary civilisation, with clusters of grapes which seemed transparent,
fruits which I couldn't recognise and animals too - some of which had human
heads. There were also human figures with the heads of animals.
I noticed, then, that my three companions and I formed a 'unit' that was a
gaseous mass, and yet we were able to distinguish each other.
'We are in the main chamber of the Pyramid of Savanasa,' said Lationusi. It was
incredible - Lationusi had not opened his mouth and yet he spoke to me in
French! The explanation came in a flash: 'it's true telepathy, Michel. Ask no
questions, all will unfold naturally and you will learn what you must know.'
(Since my duty, in writing this book, is to report on my experiences, I must try
to explain as clearly as possible that, in the state I was in at the time - my Astral
body had passed into the psychosphere - the words saw, heard and felt, were not
appropriate, merely useful, as sensations occur 'spontaneously' in a very different
way from that which we normally experience - and even from that which we
experience when we travel in Astral body.
Events occur rather as they do in a dream, and sometimes very slowly, other
times with a disconcerting speed. Afterwards, each thing seemed self-evident and
I learned later, this was because of the state I was in and because of the close
supervision that my mentors exercised over me.)
Very rapidly, I saw an opening in the ceiling of the room and, right at the end, a
star. I was aware that the two figures were exchanging 'visible' thoughts with the
star. From their pineal glands, streamed threads of what looked like silvery
cigarette smoke that passed through the opening in the ceiling and went to join
the star in distant space.
The two figures were perfectly immobile and, around them, floated a soft
golden light. I know, thanks to the constant tutelage of my companions, that
these figures not only couldn't see us, but neither could they be disturbed by us,
since we were spectators in another dimension. I examined them more
attentively.
One of them was an old man with long white hair falling past his shoulders. On
the back of his head, he wore a skullcap of saffron-coloured fabric similar to that
worn by rabbis.
He was dressed in a loose-fitting, yellow-gold tunic, with long sleeves, which
enveloped him totally. In the position he sat, his feet were not visible but I 'knew'
they were bare. His hands met, touching only at the fingertips and I could clearly
see little bluish flashes around his fingers, bearing testimony to the immeasurable
force of his concentration.
The second figure seemed to be about the same age, in spite of his shiny black
hair. Apart from the colour of his tunic, which was bright orange, he was dressed
in the same manner as his companion. So completely motionless were they that
they didn't appear to be breathing.
'They are in communication with other worlds, Michel,' it was explained to me.
Suddenly, the 'scene' vanished, to be immediately replaced by another. A palace,
in the shape of a pagoda, with roofs covered in gold, stood before us with its
towers, its portals, its immense picture windows opening on to splendid gardens
and its enamelled pools in which the water of fountains gushed and fell, forming
rainbows under the rays of a sun at its zenith. Hundreds of birds flitted in the
branches of trees scattered throughout immense parks, adding splashes of colour
to an already magical setting.
People dressed in tunics of various styles and colours strolled in groups,
beneath the trees or near the pools. Some sat in meditation beneath floral bowers
specially provided for their comfort and shelter. The whole scene was dominated
by a structure that loomed in the distance beyond the palace - a gigantic pyramid.
I 'knew' that we had just left this pyramid and that I was now admiring the
marvellous palace of Savanasa, the capital of Mu.
Beyond the palace, in all directions, stretched the plateau Thao had spoken of.
A pathway, at least 40 metres wide, seemed to be made of a single stone block,
led out on to the plateau from the centre of the gardens. It was bordered by two
rows of massive shade trees interspersed with huge, stylised statues. On some of
these statues were hats, red or green, with wide rims.
We glided along this pathway amidst people on horseback and others riding
strange four-legged animals with heads resembling dolphins - animals to which I
had never heard any reference made: animals whose existence took me by
surprise.
'These are Akitepayos, Michel, which have long been extinct,' it was explained to
me.
This animal was the size of a very large horse, with a multi-coloured tail, which
he sometimes spread like a fan, similar to the tail of a peacock. Its hindquarters
were much broader than those of a horse; its body was of a comparable length; its
shoulders emerging from the body like the carapace of a rhinoceros; and its
forelegs were longer than its hindlegs. All of its body, except for the tail, was
covered in long grey hair. When it galloped, I was reminded of the way our
camels run.
I sensed quite strongly that I was being led elsewhere by my companions. We
quickly passed the people on their walks - very quickly, and yet I was able to 'take
in' and note a feature of their language. It was very pleasant to the ear and
seemed to comprise more vowels than consonants.
Immediately, we were presented with another scene, similar to a film, when one
scene is cut and another shown. Machines, exactly like the 'flying saucers' dear to
the writers of science fiction, were lined up in an immense field on the edge of
the plateau. People were disembarking and boarding the 'flying machines' that
took them to an enormous building, which no doubt served as an air terminal.
On the landing field, the flying machines emitted a whistling sound that was
quite tolerable to the 'ear'. I was told that our perception of the sound and its
intensity was comparable with that of the people who were part of the scene
before us.
It struck me that I was witnessing the daily life of people who were remarkably
advanced, and who had been dead for thousands of years! I recall taking note also,
of the pathway beneath our 'feet' and realising that it was not one huge stone
block, as it appeared to be, but, in fact, a series of large flagstones, so precisely
cut and positioned that the joins were barely visible.
From the edge of the plateau, we had a panoramic view over an immense city
and seaport, and beyond, the ocean. Then, instantaneously, we were in a wide
street of the city, bordered by houses of varying sizes and architectural designs.
Most of the houses had terraces surrounded by flowers, where at times, we
glimpsed a very pretty species of bird. The more modest houses without terraces
had, instead, beautifully made balconies - also flower-filled. The effect was quite
delightful - like walking in a garden.
In the street, the people either walked or flew, about 20 centimetres above the
road, (standing) on small (circular) flying platforms that made no sound at all.
This seemed a very pleasant way to travel. Yet others rode on horseback.
When, at the end of the street, we found ourselves in a large town square, I was
surprised to see no boutiques or the like. Instead, there was a covered market
where 'stalls' displayed all manner of goods that the heart, or palate, might desire.
There were fish, among which I recognised tuna, mackerel, bonitoes and rays;
there was meat of many varieties as well as an incredible assortment of
vegetables. Most predominant however, were the flowers that seemed to fill the
area. It was clear these people delighted in flowers, which were either worn in the
hair or carried in the hands of everyone. The 'shoppers' helped themselves to
what they wanted, giving nothing in exchange - neither money nor anything
which might substitute. My curiosity drew our group into the heart of the
marketplace, right through the bodies of the people - an experience that I found
most interesting.
All my questions were answered as they occurred to me: 'they use no money as
everything belongs to the community. No one cheats - communal life is perfectly
harmonious. With the passing of time, they have been taught to obey wellestablished
and well-studied laws that suit them very well'.
Most of these people were between 160 and 170 centimetres in height, with
light brown skin and black hair and eyes - very similar to our present day
Polynesian race. There were also some white people among them, larger in size,
about two metres tall, with blond hair and blue eyes and, in greater numbers,
some blacks. The latter were tall, like the whites, and appeared to be of several
'kinds', including one like the Tamils and another, strikingly like our Aborigines
in Australia.
We went down towards the port where vessels of all shapes and sizes were
moored. The quays were constructed from gigantic stones which I was 'told',
came from the Notora quarry in the south-west of the continent.
The entire port had been artificially made. We were able to see some
very sophisticated pieces of equipment in operation - ship-building equipment,
loading equipment machines carrying out repairs...
The vessels in port represented, as I have said, a huge range - from eighteenth
and nineteenth-century-style sailing ships to modern style yachts; from steam
boats to ultra modern hydrogen powered cargo vessels. The enormous ships at
anchor in the bay were the anti-magnetic, anti-gravitational vessels I'd been told about.
Out of action, they floated on the water: however, when carrying their several
thousand tonne loads, they travelled, at speeds of 70 to 90 knots, just above the
water - and that, without making any noise.
It was explained to me that the 'classic' vessels represented in the port, belonged
to people of distant lands - India, Japan, China - which had been colonised by
Mu, but which did not yet have the capacity to take advantage of technological
advance. In this regard, I also learned from Lationusi, that the leaders of Mu kept
secret much of their scientific knowledge, for example, nuclear energy, antigravitation
and ultra-sounds. This policy ensured that they maintained their
supremacy on Earth and guaranteed their security.
The scene was 'cut' and we found ourselves back on the landing field, looking
at a night view of the city. It was lit up, quite uniformly, by large globes, as was
The Path of Ra, the road which led to the palace of Savanasa. Globes positioned
in the sculptured colonnades along the avenue illuminated it, as though it were
day.
It was explained to me that these globes, which were spherical in shape,
converted nuclear energy into light and had the capacity to be working thousands
of years into the future without extinguishing. I confess I didn't understand, but I
believed it must be so.
Another scene change - and it was daylight. The grand avenue and the palace
gardens had been invaded by crowds of people brightly dressed and there was an
enormous white ball attached to the top of the pyramid.
Apparently, the King, whom I had seen meditating in the pyramid, had died just
prior to the gathering of the crowd.
With much noise, the ball exploded and a unanimous cry of joy rose from the
people. This astonished me, as death usually inspires tears, but my companions
explained it as follows:
'Michel! You don't remember the lessons we taught you. When the physical
body dies, the Astral being is liberated. These people also know it and celebrate
the event. In three days time, the Astral body of the King will leave Earth to
rejoin the Great Spirit, for this King has conducted himself in an exemplary
manner during this final life on Earth, despite very difficult responsibilities and
tasks required of him.'
I had no answer and I felt ashamed of being caught out by Thao for my
forgetfulness.
Suddenly the decor changed again. We found ourselves on the front steps of the
palace. A huge crowd stretched before us for as far as the 'eye' could see, and,
beside us, was an assembly of dignitaries, including a figure dressed in the finest
attire imaginable. This was to be the new King of Mu.
Something about him drew my attention. He was familiar - it was as though I
knew him but didn't quite recognise him, made up as he was. In a flash I had the
answer from Lationusi: 'it's me, Michel, during another life. You don't recognise
me but you are aware of my astral vibrations in that body.'
In effect, Lationusi was experiencing the extraordinary within the extraordinary!
Lationusi was seeing himself living a previous life while he was still existing in his
present life!
From the hands of one of the dignitaries, the new King received a magnificent
head-piece which he put on himself.
A shout of joy rose from the crowd. The continent of Mu - the most highly
developed nation on the planet and ruler over more than half of it, had a new
King.
The crowd seemed delirious with joy. Thousands of small balloons, garnetcoloured
and bright orange, soared into the sky, and an orchestra began to play.
The musicians of the 'orchestra', who numbered two hundred at least, played
from stationary flying platforms located all around the gardens, the palace and the
pyramid. On each platform, a group of musicians played together on
indescribably strange instruments and in such a way that the sound was
distributed as though through gigantic stereophonic speakers.
The 'music' was not at all the music we are familiar with. Apart from a type of
flute that produced notes of a very special frequency, the instruments all
modulated the sounds of nature; for example, the howling wind, the hum of bees
in the flowers, the songs of the birds, the sound of rain falling on to a lake or of
the waves crashing on a beach. It was all so skilfully arranged - the sound of a
wave might originate in the gardens, roll towards you, pass over your head and
finish by crashing on the steps of the Great Pyramid.
I never would have imagined that human beings, no matter how advanced,
could accomplish such a feat as that orchestral arrangement.
The crowd, the nobles and the King seemed to 'experience' the music from
within their souls, so entranced were they. I would have liked to stay too, to listen
and listen more, to allow myself to be impregnated by this song of nature. Even
in my astral-psychospheric situation, the music 'penetrated' and the effect was
spell binding. I was 'reminded' that we were not there for the pleasure...The
scene vanished.
Immediately, I was witnessing an extraordinary meeting, presided over by the
King and restricted to his six advisers. I was told the matter was serious when the
King met only with these six.
The King had aged significantly, for we had leapt forward in time by twenty
years. Everyone present looked grave, as they discussed the technical worth of
their seismographs and I was able to understand it all within one-hundredth of a
second: I could follow the course of their discussions as if I was one of them!
One of the advisers was claiming that the equipment had, on occasions, proved
unreliable but there was no great cause for concern. Another stated that the
seismograph was perfectly accurate since that very model had proven itself at the
time of the first catastrophe, occurring in the west of the continent...
As they spoke, the palace began to tremble, like leaves on a tree in the wind.
The King rose, his eyes wide with surprise and fear: two of his advisers fell from
their seats. Outside, a great din seemed to come from the town.
The scene changed and suddenly, we were outside. The moon was full and
illuminated the gardens of the palace. All had become calm again - too calm. The
only sound heard was a dull rumbling, coming from the edge of town...
Suddenly, the servants ran from the palace and scurried in all directions. Several
of the columns supporting the globes that lit up the avenue lay on the ground -
smashed. Emerging quickly from the palace, the king and his 'entourage' climbed
on to a flying platform and headed immediately for the airport. We followed
them. Around the flying vessels on the field, and in the terminal, confusion
reigned. Some people were making a dash for the vessels, screaming and shoving.
The King's flying platform moved quickly towards one of the vehicles that stood
apart from the others: he and his followers boarded it. Other craft were already
taking off, when a deafening sound rose from the depths of the Earth - a strange,
continuous sound like thunder.
The airfield suddenly ripped apart like a sheet of paper, and an enormous
column of fire enveloped us. The vessels that had just taken off were trapped in
the middle of the flames and exploded. The people who had been running on the
airfield were lost in the crevasse. The king's vessel, still on the ground, caught fire
and exploded.
At this moment, as if the King's death had been a signal, we saw the great
pyramid topple in a single block into the crevasse, which was extending along the
plateau, widening by the second. The pyramid had balanced for a moment on the
edge of the crevasse, then, with a violent shudder, it was swallowed into the
flames.
Again the scene changed. We had a view of the seaport and the town, which
seemed to undulate like waves on the ocean. Buildings began to collapse
accompanied by screams of terror in the scenes of horror that appeared and
disappeared among the flames.
Deafening explosions occurred, originating I learned, from deep below the
surface of the Earth. Entire 'suburbs' plunged into the earth; then huge pieces of
the continent followed suit. The ocean rushed in to fill the immense chasms
being created and suddenly, the entire plateau of Savanasa sunk into the waters,
like an enormous foundering liner, but much quicker. Powerful whirlpools were
formed and, within them, I could see people desperately clinging to wreckage,
trying in vain, to survive.
It was horrifying for me to witness such a cataclysm, even knowing that it had
occurred 14 500 years ago.
We began a very rapid 'tour' of the continent, finding everywhere, the same
disasters. Water rushed in gigantic waves over the remaining plains, submerging
them. We approached a volcano that had just erupted, and nearby, we saw rocks
begin to move with a regular motion, as though a gigantic hand was lifting them
above the lava flow and creating a mountain before our very eyes. This seemed
to take as little time in happening, as the plateau of Savanasa had taken to
disappear.
The scene vanished again, to be repeated by another.
'We are arriving in South America, Michel, where the cataclysm has not yet had
effect. We'll have a look at the coast here and the port of Thiacuano. In time,
we've gone back to just prior to the first tremor, when the King of Mu was
meeting with his advisers.'
We were on the quays of the large seaport of Thiacuano. It was night and a full
moon lit up the land, although quite soon it would set. In the east, a faint
lightening of the sky heralded the approach of dawn. All was quiet. Watchmen
patrolled the quays where numerous boats were moored.
A few rowdy revellers were entering a building on which a small night light
shone. Here, we could see some of the spherical globes of Mu - but just a few.
We flew over the canal, where several ships could be seen heading in the
direction of the inland sea (now Brazil).
Our group 'came to rest' on the bridge of a pretty sailing ship. A gentle breeze
coming from the west pushed the vessel from behind. It carried little sail, as it
negotiated a zone congested with numerous boats. There were three masts on
deck, quite modern in style, and of about 70 metres in length. Judging by the
shape of its hull, it would be capable of significant speed in open waters.
A moment later, we found ourselves in a large seaman's cabin, furnished with a
good dozen bunks, all occupied.
Everyone was asleep, apart from two men of about thirty years of age, who, by
their physical appearance, probably came from Mu. They sat at a table, engrossed
in a game, which might well have been mahjong. My attention was drawn to one
of the pair - perhaps older than his companion - whose long dark hair was tied
back in a red scarf. I was attracted to him as a piece of iron is to a magnet and, in
an instant I was upon him, taking my companions with me.
As I passed through him, I felt an almost electric stimulation - and a sensation
of love, such as I had never felt before, invaded my being. I felt an indefinable
oneness with him and I passed through him again and again.
'This is easily explained, Michel. In this man, you are reunited with your Astral
body. This is you, in one of your previous lives. However, you are here as an
observer and no purpose is served by trying to re-live this time. Do not get
involved.'
With regret, I 'followed' my companions back to the bridge.
Suddenly, in the distance to the west, a loud explosion was heard, then another
nearer. Still in the west, the sky began to glow. Closer still, amid much sharper
explosions, we watched the eruption of a volcano that lit up the western sky for
about a 30 kilometre radius.
On the canal and in the port, we were aware of a feverish agitation as cries rang
out and sirens sounded.
We heard running footsteps and the sailors from below spilled on to the bridge.
Among them, I could see the sailor who 'wore' my Astral body, just as frightened
as his companions and I felt an enormous wave of sympathy for the panicstricken
'self'.
On the outskirts of the town, in the glow of the volcano, I saw a shining sphere
fly very rapidly up into the sky, and eventually, disappear from sight.
'Yes, that was one of our spacecraft,' explained Thao. 'It will observe the
cataclysm from very high. There are seventeen people on board, who will do
what they can to help survivors, but this will be very little. Watch.'
The ground began to shake and rumble. Three more volcanoes surged from
beneath the surface of the ocean near the coast, only to be engulfed by the waters
as quickly as they had appeared. At the same time, it caused a tidal wave of about
40 metres in amplitude to surge towards the coast with an infernal noise. Before
it reached the town however, the land beneath us began to rise. The port, the
town and the countryside beyond - a whole section of the continent - rose
rapidly, blocking the assault of the waves. In order to see better, we rose higher. I
was reminded of a gigantic animal arching its back as it stretched, after extricating
itself from a burrow.
The cries of the people reached us as a Dantean screech. They were mad with
panic, for they were rising with the town, as though in a lift, and it seemed their
ascent would never stop.
The boats had been smashed to pieces on rocks hurled from the ocean, and I
watched as the sailor we had left behind was literally pulverised. One of my
'selves' had just returned to its source.
It seemed the Earth was completely remodelling its shape. The town
disappeared as thick black clouds rolled in rapidly from the west, showering the
land with lava and ash, spewed from the volcanoes. Two words of description
came to mind at that moment: 'grandiose' and 'apocalyptic'.
Everything blurred and I felt my companions close around me. I was aware of a
silvery-grey cloud moving away from us at a dizzying speed and then Thiaoouba
appeared. I had the impression that we were pulling on the silvery threads, in
order to return quickly to our physical bodies that seemed to be waiting for us -
huge like mountains and shrinking as we approached.
My astral eyes appreciated the beauty of the colours here on this 'golden' planet,
after enduring the nightmares we had just left behind.
I felt the hands which were touching my physical body let go. Opening my eyes,
I looked around me. My companion stood up, smiling, and Thao asked me if I
was all right.
'Very well, thank you. I am very surprised it is still light outside.'
'Of course it is still light, Michel. How long do you think we were away?'
'I really don't know. Five or six hours?'
'No,' said Thao, amused. 'No more than fifteen lorses - about fifteen minutes.'
Then each taking me by a shoulder, Thao and Biastra guided me out of the
'relaxation chamber', bursting with laughter at my dumbfounded air. Lationusi
followed, less exuberant in his amusement.
Few other good sources on Mu
http://the-ultimate-frontier.org/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKc-ZwdFBOM&list=PUreLYOqbP4a-mPzJxRtAHgw
In attachment Lemuria: The Lost Continent of the Pacific by Wishar Cervé and James Ward
There was a russian expedition which allegedly found ruins of modern-like houses in mid Atlantic ridge at circa 150 meter depth, it's getting harder to find info like this again.
Found it, probably false alarm.
In 1982, the Soviet vessel "Rift" also lowered the underwater apparatus "Argus" to the ocean. "We opened a panorama of the ruins of the city, as the walls very much immitted the remnants of rooms, streets, squares," the Oceanology of the Oceanology of the Academy of Sciences The Argus commander of V. Bulyga reported. Unfortunately, the following expedition of Vitya, which took place in the summer of 1984 did not confirm the following expeditionary impressions. Two stone raised with one of the walls of a fairly correct form, but their analysis showed that this is not the creation of human hands, but a volcanic breed. The commander of the crew "Argus" Doctor of Geological and Mineralogical Sciences A. Gorodnitsky writes: "Most likely, the stone is a frozen lava, who once lied through the cracks of the volcano." Another underwater mountain was surveyed, Josephine, too ancient volcano, and in the past - island.
Quote from the contact case of Ante Jonsson from Sweden
Ante taken to a base in the sea
"When we fly a few minutes, we are above water that has to be the ocean. After perhaps half an hour, we go lower down, and I see lights coming from ships or boats, both large and small. Now we can not avoid being detected, I think, but for the first and only time during this trip, he says something.
"What you will see, has no man seen since several thousand years!"
"Soon we go down in the water and disappear into the depths! After about 5minutter, I see something so great that it hardly can be described in words. It looks like an entire city under water, there are strange buildings that I have never seen before!"
Ante's book in attachment
1km high Maxt Tower that is now lying on the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean.
Quote from Dweller on two planes
"Of aluminum was the giant tower of the Maxt constructed. I could see its base from where I stood, an enormous cube of masonry, then the superstructural round shaft of solid metal of the tower proper, a dully white, tapering column, lit by lunar rays. From base upward, my gaze traveled until it rested on the top, an apical point nearly three thousand feet in height. Entranced by this crowning triumph of the scene, I gazed at the heaven-piercing shaft; sentinel over the garden city, warding off the lightnings, when the lord of thunder was abroad; and all my thought was of its grandeur, and its majestic beauty."
You may think 1km of solid aluminum is a lot, how did they have so much of it.
Here is your answer.
"In this year A. D., 1886, chemists count the process costly which produces the metal, aluminum. In that day, forces arising from the Night-Side rendered inexpensive the production of any metal which might be found in nature, either native, or as an ore. As it might be done to-day didst thou but know how, and that day is not far off when thou wilt again uncover the knowledge, so, in that time, we transmuted clay, first raising its atomic speed so that it became white light of a pale illuminating power and then reducing it to the, so to speak, chemical "mile-post" of aluminum, and this at a cost not nearly so great as in this modern day it takes to get iron from its ores. The mines of native metals, as gold, silver, copper, and so on, were valuable then, as now, requiring no processing save smelting. But a metal which might be obtained from any ledge of slate rock, or a bed of clay, was so inexpensive as to be the chief base metal in use."
Keep in mind, Dweller was ghost written by a 17 year old kid over the period of few years. I added in the attachment a great pdf from now dead link saved tnx to Internet Archive with summary of Oliver's life and how he ghost written the Dweller, it even includes a page from the original manuscript not published in the Dweller. This is hard core occult material, true as true can be, of value that cannot be measured, yet, science fiction, nonsense, for the masses. So it must be.
Dweller chapter Voyage to Suern (India), a must read.
These are events of 13,000 years ago, age of caveman according to your history books.
https://www.sacred-texts.com/atl/dtp/dtp20.htm
Airship of King Solomon's son Menelik, 10th-century BC.
Quote from: nix85 on October 13, 2021, 03:03:53 PM
There was a russian expedition //found ruins of modern-like houses in mid Atlantic ridge at circa 150 meter depth,
when ,where, any
credible evidence or publication.?
any supporting Wikipedia article?
Quote from: nix85 on October 13, 2021, 03:03:53 PM
In 1982, the Soviet vessel "Rift" also lowered the underwater apparatus "Argus" to the ocean.
The commander of the crew "Argus" Doctor of Geological and Mineralogical Sciences A. Gorodnitsky writes:
"Most likely, the stone is a frozen lava, who once lied through the cracks of the volcano."
when ,where, any
credible evidence or publication.?
was it yet another "Ruski" from another Russian mission?
any supporting Wikipedia article?
Quote from: nix85 on October 13, 2021, 03:03:53 PM
Another underwater mountain was surveyed, Josephine, too ancient volcano, and in the past - island.
Quote from the contact case of Ante Jonsson from Sweden
"Ante taken to a base in the sea"
when ,where, any
credible evidence or publication.?
any supporting Wikipedia article?
conclusions:
Pepedeluxe attachment is nor credible piece of BS and contains no information I'm asking for.
nix85 if you want to become story teller find some comic book in some Russian bazaar and write in English as 90% of them don't speak English.
We are here not to listen to Russian propaganda fairy tale wonder tale, magic tale, fairy stories.
We want credible information about credible events and credible backing links to physical phenomena is question.
By the way...
verpies is a scientist....You HAVE RIGHTS TO YOUR OPINION however I would appreciate if your conduct is kept in within the brackets suitable for talking to the scientist.
Wesley
;D How bout you read before posting. For russian expedition the quote i posted clearly says second expedition showed it's probably natural/volcanic and i wrote 'probably false alarm'..
Other reports like Azores pyramid remain undebunked and need further investigation. Sadly, these things end up suppressed.
Pepedeluxe attachment is not bs, i clearly wrote i am sharing it cause it contains a summary of how young Frederick Spencer Oliver came to ghost write this occult classic of unmeasurable value.
"Russian propaganda" ;D
Speaking of science, you claimed (quoting official narrative), there is no power amplification in parallel RLC yet i have shown number of examples where we see clear power amplification in parallel RLC.
105W in 2.34kW reactive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVgp-gOBqsg
200W in 3.5kw reactive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sfOKPIi6CM
Etc
Here is one report fom late Jerry Decker about a guy in Waco, Texas in early 90s presumably who rediscovered a principle of universal degravitation, probably like 1000th person to do so since mid 19th century. Little box attached to 4 wheels of his Jeep made it buoyant. Of course, he refused to reveal how effect was produced (cause it so simple).
https://keelynet.wordpress.com/2009/03/07/a-tale-of-negative-gravity/
They wonder who put those granite slabs on top of the Teton mountain. Little do they know our Atlantean ancestors did almost 13,000 years ago.
"The top of the Teton, and for 300 feet below, is composed entirely of blocks of granite, piled up promiscuously, and weighing from 20 to 500 pounds. On the apex these granite slabs have been placed on end, forming a breastwork about three feet high, enclosing a space six or seven feet in diameter; and while on the surrounding rocks there is not a particle of dust or sand, the bottom of the enclosure is covered with a bed of minute particles of granite not larger than the grains of common sand, that the elements have worn off from these vertical blocks until it is nearly a foot in depth. This attrition must have been going on for hundreds and, perhaps, thousands of years, and it is the opinion of Mr. Langford that centuries have elapsed since the granite slabs were placed in the position in which they were found."
https://www.nps.gov/parkhistory/online_books/grte2/hrs16.htm
Another valuable read on Atlantis but earlier period about 31,000 years ago, published by the Hermetic Brotherhood, Our story of Atlantis.
I thought this was comical...
Apparently some "experts" claim the stone work below was made with a wooden mallet and copper chisel. So how does one make a very long perfectly straight and narrow cut deep into hard rock with a fat, soft copper chisel?. Even a six year old has more common sense than to claim this was done with a soft metal tool yet that's the story.
Here's a clue, when considering the width and depth of the bore hole cut it can't be done. It would require a thin and long tool and if it was made of soft metal it would just bend and break. If it was a circular chisel then the surface area is too large and it would just flatten. If it was rotated we would need hundreds of tools to make even a shallow cut. I often cut concrete and even with a high speed water cooled diamond saw it's difficult.
It begs the question...are these supposed experts mental or do they just not know any better?. There nonsensical explanations are even more unbelievable than the fact the ancient Egyptians were even capable of doing this kind of work. What we do know is that the real experts who cut stone for a living in the present day say there no way in hell it was done with soft copper chisel.
Regards
AC
Who built the Great Pyramid, as channeled by late Richard T. Miller who with George Hunt Williamson founded
the Solar Cross Foundation whose tapes you can find here http://innersites.com/issa/ This is among the
most valuable contactee material ever received.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBkWgD_E5nE
Transcript:
>March 12, 1958
>Solar Cross Tape # 7-A
>By: Kla-La
>
> Greetings in the "Light" of Our Infinite One. I am Kla-La. In
>speaking at this time, we deal with the subject of your Great Pyramid.
>In the beginning, approximately 45,600 years before your Christ, the
>Galactic Survey ships of the Confederation were to establish an
>outpost and beacon upon your planet earth.
> The crews from the third planet of Aldebaran approached your
>planet and started construction on what is known in your day as your
>Great Pyramid. Huge blocks of the substance granite were
>quarried form the heart of a continent and brought by their craft to
>their present location. Huge disrays cut and sliced and shaped these
>blocks to infinite dimensions. The tribes at this time were
>frightened, thinking that the craft in their heavens were remants of
>some fabled gods descending to the earth, and we felt it would not be
>necessary to discourage this.
> In that edifice known as your Great Pyramid were laid generators,
>totaling millions of watts energy, sending out beams and guideways for
>our craft for navigational purposes. Noticing the tremendous impact
>that this structure had upon the native populace, it was felt that
>subsidiary functions could be included. Also, at that time, it was
>felt desirable to place observation teams of our people upon
>your planet check the rates of progress of various races and to help
>in establishing more even distribution. This was where your scientific
>circles find evidence of many types of flora and fauna scattered
>through out all portions of your globe.
> Our people, setting forth in their mighty star ships, regularly
>visited your planet. Seeing the needs of cultures yet to be born,
>certain influences were thought to be in order. These were placed,
>again, in the pyramid. A shaft directly below the subterranean
>chamber, at a level of 243 feet, was sunk and there the mightiest
>generators of a race over a million of your years old, were installed
>and which, my brother, function even to this day. These performed
>twofold purposes. One, they helped eliminate an alarming degree of
>axial excursion present at your north and south poles. Secondly,
>they provided more temperate climates throughout many portions of your
>world which were still recovering from a rather staggering glacial
>age.
> Much later (circa 3,000 BC), one know to your scientists as
>Cheops or Khufu, puzzling at this spectacle which our Pyramid
>presented, decided that such a monument should at least be
>established more in an appearance sense that it was. Thousands of the
>native population were set to work and slabs and blocks of pure lime
>(stone) were built up around our premary efforts, providing a more
>textured surface. Not knowing what the peculiar metal (copper), at
>that time, was adorning the top, they decided to let it shine forth,
>for it could be seen by travelers many miles away. This is where your
>ancient Grecian writer thought it to be a fact that Khufu was the one
>to have erected the Pyramid.
> Unknown to many people, regular crews of our people manned the
>equipment, for the original intent of that area known as the Queen's
>Chamber was primarily an interstellar communications room. The area
>known as the King's Chamber was later installed by our people for
>healing various physical ailments common to your peoples. Our people,
>under the guise of their local priests of the time, administered
>treatments which were thought by many to be miracles. In this we found
>an expedient way of lending some aid where possible. And at all times
>the mightly throb of hidden generators below the base of this
>monument, were continually throwing radiant beams of energy
>out into the heavens of our universe to guide our many craft. Later,
>eight more pyramids (built by Egyptian Pharaohs, not the Space
>Friends) were constructed, bringing the total to nine, stretching a
>distance of 63 miles along the western bank of the Nile.
> It has always puzzled your people as to the exact dimensions of
>our Pyramid. I shall now give you the exact dimensions as initially
>constructed. If these do not agree today, it is because of alterations
>of earlier races and Pharaohs to the main structure.
> The base of our Pyramid was 765 feet square. The total height was
>486 feet. The entrance way was located exactly 54 feet above the base
>on the north side and constructed in such a manner that the light of
>your pole star would forever shine down the entire length of its 324
>foot corridor to the subterranean chambers. A feat, my brothers, none
>of your more infant races could possibly have engineered. This is also
>the direction of your true magnetic north pole. The reason, this was
>constructed so, was to keep t pole star centered, and thus alleviate
>any further axial excursions of your planet.
> Two hundred forty-three feet below the base rests machines your
>scientists would forever marvel upon. The area of our entrance way was
>nine square feet, ending in a subterranean chamber, from which another
>passageway, extending 63 feet, ended in a blank wall. Blank for a
>purpose, for nine feet further would disclose the sub-etheric
>generators. Seventy-two feet above the base in the Queen's Chamber,
>consisting of 1,134 square feet of area, and nine feet, again, above
>the Queen's Chamber, rests the present communications facilities. Nine
>feet below the King's Chamber lie those machinses once installed on a
>higher level. There are also three more areas unknown to your
>present science within this structure.
> You will notice, my brothers, that of all figures I have
>mentioned, they are all multiples of the numeral "nine." The reason
>for this being that nine is the key to the mathermatical science
>dealing with magnetics. Your may bear tis in mind.
>
>It has been my privilege to speak. I am Kla-La.
>
>
>
>
That Great Pyramid once had a copper top is also recorded in Arabian legends, i have that quote somewhere, gotta find it.
About the early secret space program from Ufo Contact From Planet Apu.
This happened in 1960.
I have mentioned before that far side of "our" Moon is much like Earth, like American south-west. This is nothing new, it was claimed since first book of George Adamski in 1948 who talked about "great body of water into which rivers pour", forests, cities etc, but even today it is a conspiracy theory, nonsense, for the public.
Ironically, it is true. Howard Menger described the sky on the lunar far side to John Lear as yellowish. Funnily enough, photographs of the far side given to Vladimir Terzinski show exactly that, a very yellowish atmosphere (below).
Some altho rare old Apollo photos were not disclosorized too, and can easily be compared to modern representation of the Moon which is without exception, totally grey, washed out, airbrushed completely.
Here are few videos, first two are the only publicly available NASA footages that show Moon in real color, all other old and especially new ones are 100% grey. If this alone is not enough to incite your intelligence, i don't know what is.
The very bright spots on the ground in the first video are of course cities.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLS6CmWwu5VGlv5KC7i3mVhCbPc0gvwsA_
First photo below is frame AS13-60-8659 showing Lake Tsiolkovsky, left of course the modern official one and right one i found on some .jp site years ago, remember Japanese are in possession of many original color Apollo frames. Compare which one is like the original NASA footage and which one is total fake.
The page from Borderland Sciences Research Foundation Journal of Borderland Research >> Vol. 25 [1969] talking about the suppressed discovery of this 180km (112 miles) wide lunar lake.
https://borderlandsciences.org/journal/vol/25/index.html
2 frames given to Vladimir Trezinski showing the lake and surrounding in color, first is in original color and on others i removed the excess yellow due to hazy atmosphere.
Remember Ingo Swann's remote viewing the hazy atmosphere on the Moon, structures, people etc.
Sgt Karl Wolfe's (US Airforce 1964-68) testimony about cities on the Moon
https://youtu.be/_4hycqDNnPE?t=1205
Frame AS08-12-2196 in B&W, every bright dot you see is a city, in the middle is Lake Tsiolkovsky, of course.
There is much much more on this subject, some things i lost over the years like close ups of dome buildings or the great Apollo anyglyph i never found again, it was a mid altitude, maybe 20km above a crater rim and nearby plateau, very very clearly showing number of smaller cities. Should still be there if they did not remove it but i wasn't able to find it anymore. https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/alsj-AnaglyphGalleries.html
And this TV report with some rare footages and photos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nQNUZM_vLg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRP1sUDW-9o
From Google Moon with coordinates so anyone can check. My finds from ~2013.
From Japanese JAXA. It goes on and on, so enough about this subject.
Few more references to ancient sound levitation.
I was watching something about Tesla and scalar waves (rather Keely's waves) today and i thought of the false speed of light limitation. Conventionally, only space itself can expand or contract at C+ but suppose you have a wire from here to Mars, it takes light 20 minutes to reach Mars, yet how long would it take the physical signal to reach Mars if you pulled the wire, yes, it would be instant.
If that is too far for you to practically imagine, take Moon, 1.3 light-seconds away.
http://www.rexresearch.com/hodorhys/hodomars.htm
This has already been mentioned here by conradelektro and he asked a good question i also wondered, how is he sure he detected a gravity wave, not EM wave. He supposedly used the device in Faraday cage, that's how.
https://overunity.com/14956/new-scalar-wave-detector-and-laws-of-scalar-physics/msg517915/#msg517915
I already shared the first of these cases but here it is again with another cases, clear continuation of the first. I don't think most of you still realized that gravity was absolutely conquered in mid-late 19th century. Mystery airships of 1897 used various propulsion systems, great majority of them were not antigravity but this one was and that makes it special.
Date: April 22 1897 01:00 AM
Location. Harrisburg Arkansas
Source: Modern News April 23, 1897
—In Arkansas, an aerial visitor settled to earth about two hours after the Barclay contact. In its April 23rd edition, the Harrisburg, Arkansas, Modem News, gave the following account: '"The airship of which we have read so much of late has caused considerable comment but no one ever dreamed that it would ever be anchored in Harrisburg. Wednesday night (April 21) Ex-Senator Harris was awakened about 1 o'clock by an unfamiliar noise, and upon taking a peep out he spied a peculiar looking object in the west. Instantly he thought of the wonderful airship which had so mystified the people of the west during the past few weeks, and hurriedly dressing he took his field glass and went out in the yard where he could get a good view.
'The first sight through the glass satisfied him that it was a wonderful airship. As the object came nearer he could discern the shape, but in few seconds it came so near that he threw down his glass. The mysterious flyer paused and gradually descended to within a few feet of the ground and only a short distance from Mr. Ham's' yard. Mr. Harris says there was an elderly man, a woman and two young men on board. The old gentleman wore a heavy set of dark, silken whiskers, which hang down near his waist. He had jet black eyes and a deep firm expression. Mr. Harris said he walked out a little nearer and hailed the old gentleman. The old man seemed a little surprised when he spoke, not expecting to see any one out at that hour of night, but he spoke pleasantly, and after taking on a supply of fresh well water. he said: "'Well. you seem to be a very clever man, and if you will promise not to divulge my secret in a way to do me harm I will tell you the whole story, except how the effect is produced.'
"After receiving satisfactory assurance, he continued: ' you remember about 26 years ago (in the St. Louis papers) an account of a scientific invention made by a gentleman whose name I will not mention. by which the laws of gravitation were entirely and completely suspended? He was offered big sums of money for it by several syndicates in this country and also had large offers from parties at Paris, London and many other places. During the time he was considering these offers he had the invention securely locked in a safety deposit vault in New York City. Before he had accepted any of the offer he was taken violently ill, and after lingering a few weeks died, leaving his invention in the vault. This man was my uncle and he has partially confided the secret to me but not sufficiently for me to do anything without the original invention.
"'After the lapse of about 19 years I managed to secure the original and having plenty of money at my disposal and having devoted my time and talent during the past seven years to experimenting,I have an airship which is almost perfection but I am not quite through experimenting, and so I continue to travel at night to keep from being detected. I will make an attempt to visit the planet Mars before I put the airship on public exhibition. " 'Weight is no object to me. I suspend all gravitation by placing a small wire round an object. You see I have a 4-ton improved Hotchkiss gun on board. besides about ten tons o! ammunition. I was making preparations to go over to Cuba and kill out the Spanish army if hostilities had not ceased,but now my plans are changed and I may go to the aid of the Armenians. To use this improved gun we only have to pour the cartridges into a hopper and press a button and it fires 63,000 times per minute.
"'No, gravitation is not in my way. I place my wire around this 4-ton gun and hold it out with one hand and take aim. Oh, I could place my anti-gravitation wire around the national capital building and take it by the dome and bring it over and set it down in Harrisburg as easy as I could an ink stand. Distance is almost overcome: why we came over the chunks of Dallas at 12:10, less than an hour ago, and we have travelled very slowly. I could take breakfast here, do my flopping in Paris and be back here for dinner without incon venience, as soon as I get my new propellors completed.' "He said he must be ofi before anyone else was disturbed and invited Mr. Harris to take a ride with him, but he kindly declined the offer. He bade Mr. Harris adieu and floated up and drifted away to a place among the stars and in a few seconds was hid beyond the darkness of the night."
Date: May 6, 1897
Location: Arkansas, near Hot Springs
Source: Racine Daily Journal
The two witnesses, a constable and a deputy sheriff who were investigating some recent reports of cattle rustling in the area, provided the following account of their experience:
"While riding northwest from this city on the night of May 6, 1897, we noticed a brilliant light high in the heavens. After riding four or five miles around through the hills, we again saw the light, which appeared to be much nearer the earth. We stopped our horses and watched it coming down, until all at once it disappeared behind a hill. We rode on about half a mile further, when our horses refused to go farther. Almost a hundred yards distant, we saw two persons moving around with lights. Drawing our Winchesters, we demanded, "Who is that, and what are you doing?"
A man with a long, dark beard came forth with a lantern in his hand, and on being informed who we were, proceeded to tell us that he and two others-a young man and a woman-were traveling though the country in an airship. We could plainly distinguish the outlines of the vessel, which was cigar-shaped and almost 60 feet long, and looking just like the (sketches) that have appeared in the papers recently. The young man was filing a big sack with water about 30 yards away. The woman was holding an umbrella over her head. The man with the whiskers invited us to take a ride, saying that he could take us where it was not raining. We told him we preferred to get wet. Asking the man why the brilliant light was turned on and off so much, he replied that the light was so powerful that it consumed a great deal of his motive power.
He said he would like to stop off in Hot Springs for a few days and take the hot baths, but his time was limited and he could not. He said that they were going to wind up at Nashville, Tennessee after thoroughly seeing the country. Being in a hurry, we left. Upon our return about 40 minutes later, nothing was to be seen. We did not hear or see the airship when it departed".
More on the two cases PG 22 http://www.ignaciodarnaude.com/ufologia/FSR%201967%20V%2013%20N%204.pdf
Just another airship report, there are thousands reports like this and most of the world still praises Wright brothers as first to fly, pshhh.
If you're interested in the subject, good starting point is the book in attachment.
Nix85
Thanks for the posts and you are a true researcher...
I had read some of this before and it's mind boggling to think many people knew how this technology worked way back then. I mean look at the date, 1897, people were riding horses, burning wood/coal for heating, gas lanterns and most had never even heard of electricity. Yet even back then there were people who figured all this out and were able to build working technology.
I traced it back a little further and this technology started showing up as early as 1859 with McFarland Cook aka the Cook Coil.
https://richlandcountyhistory.com/2019/06/22/dm-cooks-enduring-energy/
Regards
AC
Tnx. Yea it's fascinating and yet on the other hand perfectly logical.
It was the age of POWER ELECTRONICS. They had all the components
needed to make it happen.
As i wrote before i knew about Cook for many years, his is the first
overunity patent (1871) of which Floyd Sweet's device (one version of it)
is a literal copy paste, i read his papers, known about his antigravity chicken
coop etc. He experimented with magnetism for 35 years before he (allegedly)
stumbled on these exotic phenomena.
Nix85
At this point in my research I'm back into the denial stage again, lol.
All the timelines point to the ancient Sumarians having this technology. This then spread to Egypt(stone cutting tech, Dendara lights, Baghdad battery) and India (Vimana, Sanskrit text) anti-gravity tech. It also appears in Roman literature as vast technologically advanced cultures like Atlantis. It disappears for a period of time then starts showing up again in the mid-1800's to early 1900's at which point government/corporate intervention buries the technology.
If this is true the popular history of mankind we were told is basically a hoax, a lie.
I find these facts very hard to rationalize, to think advanced technology has been around since the dawn of mankind and yet most are oblivious to it. It's like something out of "the matrix" when we wake up and find most of what we were told to believe is bullshit. Very strange...
Regards
AC
Yea ancient tech was very advanced but your timeline is bit limited, it is MUCH older and also there has probably never been a time when at least some groups, usually in remote/underground retreats were in possession of very advanced tech.
I have posted tons of info that clearly show ancient technology was far superior. For example the Vimanas which were capable not only of interplanetary travel but rising up into higher planes of existence or 7 lokas around the Earth, what we call astral realms, were for them accessible by technology, something that today only the most advanced black projects possess.
Sumer and Babylon had antigravity airships as i also quoted ancient Chaldean work The Sifrala and Babylonian The Hakatha clearly depict, but it appears these were only for the kings and as a people they were quite primitive.
Atlantis which according to Dweller on two planets which i also linked on previous pages rose to very high technological level before it's decline, we are talking not just Vailixi airships which worked by cold electricity, but things like magnetic disrupters which brought complete and absolute annihilation to anything and everything within certain range, something not even an atomic weapon can do....
Or Mu (Lemuria) which sank 14,500 years ago, very very highly advanced civilization described in detail in the book Thiaoouba Prophecy of which whole chapter i quoted on previous pages.
We are talking at least 70 MILLION YEARS of civilization on Earth.
Truth is very extreme from conventional standpoint. Man has been incarnating in more less same form for last 150 million years and at least for 70 has he rose to very high tech status and crumbled back into dust and back again. This is confirmed in Theosophy and at least two of the most credible contactee cases.
Now figure how many civilizations rose and fell during such immense time.
To quote from Mission Rahma (Peru) contactee material, quote:
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RESURGENCE OF LIFE
Continuing with Talmir's story, after the disaster and after a long time — in which there were repeated freezes and thaws of the planet, meteoric rains and various cataclysms — life on the surface reappeared again.
(From what we know from scientific sources, the last Meteoric Rain to hit the Earth occurred 27 million years ago).
But the returned inhabitants now had a renewed appearance: their skin was dark (like copper) and they looked like a mixture of the black and red races, of tall stature, spindly, with long, thin limbs. Even its skull was elongated and pronounced back.
Over time, the area where the Lemurian Culture had settled (South East Africa and Madagascar, Indian Ocean) became unstable by a chain of seismic movements. This pushed them to explore the world.
ANATEYLAN
The panorama that Antarctica offered then was different. A temperate climate, with a dream landscape wielding important mountain ranges; numerous rivers meandering in its extensive geography, irrigating immense valleys and plains until they reach the surrounding ocean.
There a city was founded that would bring together all the Lemurian Colonies. They called him Anateylán, a name proper to their culture and which means: "We are all one."
The Lemurians originally founded it there, in the vicinity of a large lake, where according to their legends, life had originated. And they were not wrong. It was the place where the Self-Replicating Molecule of Life had been seeded, and where the Kayona Machine had been installed, millions of years ago.
(Nordac claims that the Lemurians named their city Kayona, which is probably a misconception. Talmir instead indicates that the city's name was Anateylán, which seems more accurate).
Anateylán was a majestic city, a mixture of advanced technology with pyramidal constructions that seemed to have been built in a material similar to marble. Various gardens and waterfalls were appreciated, in the midst of great peace.
A very wide road, led to a larger Pyramid, surrounded by several domes in the center of the city. It was the "Temple of the Beginning", a Monument erected to the Origin of Life on Earth.
This city, in time, would be frequented by stellar visitors who served the Confederacy of Galaxy Worlds. Soon, Anateylán would become an enclave that brought together different cultures from Earth and settlers from other worlds, at a time when Earth received frequent extraterrestrial visits. It became a protected area by the Confederacy itself.
ANTARCTIC CIVILIZATION
Thus, the Antarctic Civilization quickly established itself, forming very advanced and sophisticated cities: its constructions were rounded, some very tall, and all of them within a gigantic dome as a protective shield.
Its inhabitants were also highly advanced: they could move at will between Dimensions, being aware of their subtle vehicles.
At that time, when they had reached a high evolutionary and scientific development, from Anateylán, outposts were sent that began to establish themselves in other parts of the planet. Some of these well known today, such as Rapa Nui, which at that time was not an island, but a gigantic conical mountain, on whose top as a hat - used as a ceremonial altar - there were already Moais ...
Others of the places of "advanced" of this Civilization, and which currently keep archaeological remains, were the Atacama Desert and El Enladrillado, in the North and South of Chile, respectively. Other points were in present-day Polynesia and Australia, as well as Asia and southern Africa. Some had even migrated outside the Planet, but within the Solar System.
We still do not imagine the scope of this Civilization, prior to Atlantis and superior to it in many aspects, as one in particular and very special: neither more nor less than the incarnation of the Christ Spirit. This was manifested for the first time on the planet, in the midst of a dazzling light that descended from the sky, filling everything ...
(According to Javier Cabrera, the Piedras de Ica speak of a Christ who existed at a time when horses had 3 fingers on each leg. According to scientific sources, the Mesohippus - the ancestor of the horse, and with three toes on each leg - lived during the Oligocene, a period that lasts between 33 and 23 million years, approximately).
However, the Antarctic Civilization would perish in a subsequent Cataclysm. Despite the fact that the Confederation suggested an evacuation, the human settlers of Anateylán, remained firm in remaining in the city until the end of it, both because of the secrets that it protected and that they should not be transferred to another place, and because of its symbolism of hope and unity.
Many gathered in the subways under the Temple of Principle, moments before the catastrophe. They chose to be there, under one of the oldest Temples on Earth: a temple that was respected by everyone, including Extraterrestrial Visitors.
With the Catastrophe, our world experienced a violent and unexpected change of axis, which buried once temperate lands under the blanket of polar ice. Anateylán was located further south, hundreds of meters below the white landscape of present-day Antarctica.
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Then we also hear from alleged star son of Mikhail Gorbachev
The giant was wearing gold boots and on his chest, a gold circle with a blue triangle. He assured Gorbachev, "We come in peace, so you won't destroy yourselves, as you did 25,000 years ago."
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/aldes-mikhail-gorbachevs-et-son-27574/
Then Edgar Cayce talked much of these past civilizations that rose and fell, rose and fell...endlessly, as did Paul Solomon, Guy Ballard and many others.
There is no end to this info, one thing is for certain, nothing new under the sun.
Nix85
Talk about Deja Vu...
I literally just stumbled onto this website as you were posting, lol.
https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2020/02/russian-scientist-claims-earth-is-a-reserve-quarantined-by-aliens/
Thanks for the information, I will have to look a little deeper into this. Do you have any other good links to other websites on this subject.
Regards
AC
You're welcome. Like i said there is no end to this info but what is the point of sharing anything if people
don't recognize the truth in it and that is not easy with so much garbage out there. So it MUST be by one's
own research, one's own intuition that he comes to light.
If i have to pick one, i again pick Dweller on two planets.
Also these two documentaries, not everything in them is correct, i share them more for overall atmosphere.
and feeling they convey.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FarNcfJ2Y3I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AxhW1g9HjA&list=PLIsDPbTTZpr2wh_Bi8TXkFoAM5kYjzAG6
There are many unanswered questions, too many, but we have to live with it. For example, most take transformers for granted
and stick with primary to secondary turns ratio determines the output voltage and current.
But consider HOW does the secondary know what's the number of turns, voltage and current in the primary.
ALL that secondary sees is change of flux in the core.
Point being this same change of flux, EXACTLY the same, can be produced by near INFINITE combinations of
1) primary turns of varying wire thickness
2) primary current
3) primary voltage
You will agree that for example primary with 10 turns and 1A will produce the same flux as primary with
5 turns and 2A. Secondary cannot "know" which one it is and there is theoretically an INFINITY of other
combinations that will produce exactly the same change of flux.
And yet it knows, the two scenarios will give different outputs despite same change of flux.
Another thing, if you feed primary of the transformer pulsed dc sinewave, it will convert each of
those positive half sinewaves into full AC sinewave on the secondary.
Yet, if you feed it AC sinewave it will also produce AC sinewave on the secondary. Do you see the difference.
For some unknown reason, when we feed it half sinewave (pulsed dc) when primary voltage reaches the peak
secondary voltage has already reached the peak and went back to zero and as primary voltage falls down from
peak to zero, secondary voltage makes another half sinewave of opposite polarity.
Yet when we feed it AC full sinewave on the primary produces half sinewaves on the secondary for each half
sinewave of the primary, not full sinewave.
It behaves differently for the two cases.
Similar thing happens when you swipe a magnet over an air core coil, as you pass over the left side say
positive half sinewave is induced, as you reach the middle voltage is 0 and as you pass the right side
negative half sinewave is induced.
Yet, if you have a single wire and pass a magnet over it you will get a full sinewave.
Here i am disclosing an old perpetual motion video i already shared here some time ago,
i think it's from some Russian guy (Russians really are BY FAR no. 1 in overunity),
forgot his name. I did not replicate it but i have no doubt it works. You sure won't
get kilowatts out of it but if you want a real overunity toy, this is a way to go.
As you can see yourself, it works because at any moment 6 or 7 magnets want to go
forward attracted by the sloping iron, and only 1 or 2 want to stick.
I am not sure if the base is iron sheet or not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me0s25_Xbnc
If you build a successful replication, feel free to share here.
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Continuing on the subject of transformers, here is something i shared before but is worth repeating this guy at Quora nicely summed up exactly what happens when secondary is loaded, what is in series what in parallel etc. This is of course not a full explanation of how transformer works, this is just some basic conventional stuff.
A transformer with open secondary is just an inductor. The concept of backEMF makes no sense here. What will happen is the current will lag the voltage by 90° in the ideal case. Power delivered to the inductor is current times voltage. Note that this averages to 0 over any whole cycle when the current and voltage are sines with 90° phase shift between them. Energy is put into the inductor during half the cycle, then given back during the other half. The average power transfer is 0. The energy that is absorbed and then given back is temporarily stored in the magnetic field of the transformer core. In reality, the inductor will not be purely inductive, but will also appear to have some resistance in series with its inductance. That resistance is the DC resistance of the wire the primary coil is made from. That resistance will dissipate power proportional to the square of the current thru it. In a "good" transformer or inductor, this resistance is small compared to the impedance due to the inductance over the frequency range the device is intended to work. Looking at the voltage and current, the current will lag the voltage a little less than 90° due to this resistance. The average of the voltage x current over a whole cycle is now a little positive, which is the energy dissipated by the resistance each cycle. Getting even closer to reality, there will also be some loss in storing then retrieving magnetic energy to/from the transformer core each cycle. This will also appear as a resistive component electrically. The resistance will appear in parallel with the primary inductance. Both together are in series with the DC resistance of the coil.
When a load is connected to the secondary, it looks a lot like the core gets more lossy to the circuit driving the primary. The primary looks more resistive (which means voltage and current are now more in-phase), which accounts for the higher power it now draws at the same voltage.
Like the core loss resistance, this additional resistance appears in parallel with the inductance of the primary, from the point of view of the circuit driving the primary. In a ideal transformer with ideal load, the secondary removes energy from the magnetic core exactly as the primary tries to put it there. The result is the primary current is now in phase with its voltage, and therefore looks purely resistive. This of course never happens exactly because there are always inevitable losses.
In the ideal case, a transformer primary looks like whatever impedance is connected to the secondary, divided by the square of the turns ratio. For example, let's say a transformer has a 1:3 turns ratio. You put 12 VAC into the primary, and ideally get 36V out of the secondary. If there is 10 Ω on the secondary, then it is delivering 36V/10Ω = 130W. This has to go into the primary, which means the primary current is 130W/12V = 10.8A, which means the primary look slike a 12V/10.8A = 1.11 Ω resistor. Note that 1.11Ω / 10Ω = 1/9, which is the square of the turns ratio.
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Also...
The magnetizing current is quite small compared to the full load current of the transformer. Magnetizing current remains constant irrespective of secondary load. The magnetizing current lags the voltage by 90 degrees.
In the case you have not seen Etheric Rainmaking by James Constable
it's about time you do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwhu2G2p2sM
From NEWSPAPER "LA CROIX", one of newspapers that reported the encounter at the time. This is another in a long row of indications of a secret military in this case Russian space program. All reports in the link below.
October 21, 1954, France.
A worker from Saint-Rémy (Vosges), Mr. Ujvari, 40 years old, has just told the gendarmes of Raon-l'Etape that, last Wednesday, around 3 a.m., he was stopped on the road by a stranger of large build and average height, wearing a gray jacket, decorated on the shoulders with shiny badges.
The man spoke an unknown language. Mr. Ujvari, of Czech nationality, tried to speak Russian. His interlocutor understood it perfectly. "Where am I, he asked, in Italy, in Spain?" He then inquired about the distance separating him from the German border, and the time. The worker having told him that it was around 3:30 a.m., the man took out of his jacket a watch that marked 4 a.m.
Then the stranger gave the worker the order to move forward. Soon Ujvari saw in the middle of the road a craft in the shape of two plates reversed one against the other, from which emerged a kind of periscope.
Arrived at about thirty meters from the apparatus, which was about 1.50 high and 2.50 m. wide, the stranger tells him to move away. But, looking back from time to time, Mr. Ujvari varies could see the machine rise slowly vertically with a noise of sewing machines. Arrived at an altitude of 500 meters, it took the horizontal and disappeared in direction of the south.
Mr. Ujvari said the unknown was wearing a helmet similar to that of a motorcyclist. He had a gun in his hand.
His last word to Mr. Ujvari was "farewell" in Russian.
https://ufologie.patrickgross.org/1954/21oct1954saintremy.htm
Little more valuable info on the transformer as constant flux device, what exactly happens, in short due to counter flux developed by the secondary (lenz), overall flux in the core drops, since voltage across the primary is due to inductive reactance (V=IZ) it falls too, new created difference between the source voltage and voltage across the primary cause the rise of current until flux and voltage across the primary are restored (almost) to original value (not exactly since full load flux in the core is slightly LESS than no load flux).
https://www.myelectrical2015.com/2017/10/transformer-on-load.html
Another confirmation of secret space program... i know it is pointless to post this cause most of you could not give less fuck, but i am sure there is 1 in a thousand who will appreciate the info so here it is, this is shared by Jorge Martín Miranda on facebook. Below is image of the guards that met em and below that "abandoned" US navy installation on top of Pico del Este near which encounter happened. And then illustration made by Mr. Freddie González of the object he saw inside the camouflaged facilty
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=2361248497345626&set=a.193173027486528&_rdc=1&_rdr
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pico_del_Este_(Sierra_de_Luquillo)#/media/File:Radar_towers_-_panoramio_(1).jpg
Area 51 S-4 like Installation in El Yunque Rain Forest, Puerto Rico?
By Jorge Martín Miranda
During our presentation as a speaker in the July 1993 MUFON Symposium we included in our talk details about the existence of an alleged site similar to the S-4 facility that allegedly exists in the Area 51 section of Nellis Air Force base, in Nevada, USA. One of them was based on an experience a young couple of puertorricans had in the area of Pico del Este (the Eastern Peak), in El Yunque Rain Forest.
One night in late February 1991, young Freddie González and his wife, Nilda Cuevas, went to El Yunque rainforest. With them were Nilda's younger brother, who was just a child, and their baby.
They had arrived from New York city, where they lived, an wanted to visit the forest, so they took Freddie's mother's car and headed up into the forest along road 191. Ecstatic with the beauty of the area and its lush vegetation, they reached a point where there was a large opening between the foliage in the area.
The sun was already low in the horizon when Freddie got out of the vehicle to check it and discovered that the opening was a camouflaged gate covered by thick vegetation.
They decided to continue on through the opening, and further along the way were surprised to find themselves driving on a modern, well-paved road. It was already around 7:30 PM.
"From a certain point onward, there were blue light bulbs at the road's edge, on each side," González told us in an interview. "It was like on an airport's runway at night."
He continued his explanation. "At that point we felt a weird sensation. Nilda said that we should go back, but I kept going. The road continued going up between the mountains.
"We kept on going for 2 or more miles, and reached the end of the road. There was a big metallic gate there, and a building behind it some distance away, in the middle of a mountain. Just then, two men wearing strange uniforms showed up and stopped us. They ask who we were and what we were doing there.
"They both stood some six feet tall, dressed in tight fitting, one-piece black suits of a leather-like material, similar to a diver's wet suit. They also wore a wide, black belt. Both of them wore black gloves and black boots with what looked like metallic gold buttons on their sides. These went all the way up to their knees.
"They both also wore big, oval helmets with black visors. You could not see their faces, and I can't explain how they were able to see us as it was getting dark (see drawing). Everything they wore was completely black, except for those golden buttons."
"They ordered us to stop," González added. "Then they told us to get out of the car. Thier voices sounded electronic, muffled. But they both spoke in Spanish language. Maybe their voices sounded like that because of their helmets.
"I got out of the car, but told my wife to remain inside. They asked who we were, and requested our driving licenses and Ids. We gave this to them. They looked at them and gave them back to us.
"They then examined the car's license plate, and one of them examined the bottom part of the car with a long, metallic object like a thin tube that had a mirror on its end. He said that 'everything was O.K'. Why he did that, I truly don't know.
"Then they looked at my wife, our baby, and my brother-in-law, and asked again why we were there. I explained that we wanted to have a look at the rainforest and got lost. The two men talked between themselves in a language that sounded strange, guttural-like, and garbled. I would compare it with the Russian language... or maybe German language.
"One of them left the site and at that moment I saw a car approaching. It was a dark blue pick-up truck, and inside of it were two men dressed in one-piece blue overalls like the ones mechanics use. They were Puerto Ricans, because of their accent. They spoke Spanish, and also asked us who we were and how we had gotten there. They would not talk to the tall man dressed in black, who remained there.
"I noticed that the pick-up's door had a U.S. Navy sign on it and realized, "The Navy? Of course, Navy Roosevelt Roads Station in Ceiba! It is close to the forest!"
The men in the truck looked at my wife and the kids and whispered something to the man dressed in black..."
At that moment, there was a sudden flash of light which came from the direction where the pickup truck had come from. Freddie couldn't help but see it, and he looked in that direction, but had trouble believing what he saw.
"That light," he said, "came from inside a rectangular hollowed out area which seemed to be excavated into the side of the mountain covered by vegetation.
"That rectangular area was actually an opening with big crystal doors, and inside of it was an object similar to a flying saucer! It had a circular shape with windows all around its center (see drawing by the witness).
"I could see it clearly due to the brilliance of the light inside. Some men wearing white lab coats were doing something with the saucer, like electrical soldering, and that was what produced the flashes that called my attention.
"The craft seemed to be about some 30 feet in diameter. It was metallic and silvery. It rested on some supports.
"All of a sudden I realized that I was seeing something that, perhaps, I should not be witnessing and became scared. I looked away. The men apparently were not aware that I had seen the saucer."
One of the men in the pick-up truck told the young couple that they should not be there at that time of night "...because people get lost in the dark and disappear easily in the forest without ever being seen again."
He ordered them to follow them, that they would drive them out of the area. They also instructed them that they could not talk to anyone about what they saw and what happened there."
Afraid, they obeyed, and were escorted out of the area. Once they arrived at Route 191, they began their descent from the mountaintop. The Navy pick-up truck followed them for awhile, and then suddenly disappeared from sight.
Freddie and his wife were very nervous, fearing that because of what they saw in El Yunque the U.S. Government might come after them.
In fact, two days later, while they visited the wife's parents in the town of Canóvanas, everyone present at the place noticed a dark car with four individuals inside of it parked in front of the house. The individuals inside wore fine civilian suits, neckties and dark glasses. They seemed to be watching them. Parked next to the dark car was a military camouflaged truck.
"Someone" was letting them know that they were being watched, and it was obvious to Freddie González and his wife that the reason for that was what they had seen in El Yunque.
According to the couple, Some of the individuals entered the house and talked with them, insisting they should go back with them to El Yunque to discuss something. The couple refused to go, terrified that they might "disappear" in the forest.
Once the men realized that the couple would not go with them, they departed. After this incident, González and his wife left Puerto Rico and moved to the United States, where they still reside.
González believes that the reason they were not taken by the men was due to the children being present at the time. He wonders what would have happened if they were alone that night.
We asked him why they decided to tell us their story, and he replied, "Look, I am conscious of the importance of what we saw up there, as it has many implications. But people should know about it. We deserve to know what is happening. It is our right to know."
We agreed on this with the witness. But, who were the mysterious individuals dressed with the tightfitting black suits and helmets?
Why would they be wearing this type of suit in such a warm and humid environment like the one in El Yunque rainforest?
Were they human beings or of extraterrestrial origin?
Why did they speak at times in a strange, guttural garbled language the witnesses could not identify?
What can be said for sure is that the individuals who removed the couple from the site were driving a pick-up truck labeled as belonging to the U.S. Navy, which again, implies a connection between that US military agency and the UFO situation.
This was one of the many incidents we reported in the July 1993 MUFON Symposium in Virginia.
In recent years there has been a considerable increase in U.S. military presence in the rainforest, and many visitors have been taken out from it at gun point, even when they were not in restricted areas. This was often done in an aggressive manner and without explanation.
People quickly forget so let me also remind you nazis REALLY did build gravitational spaceships prior to, during and after WW2, it is NOT just a myth. Accept it wholesomely and understand the implications.
Here is a testimony of a German pilot first published in 1998 in a book by Karl-Heinz Zunneck. Quote from https://ufomotion.xyz/Dossier_HTML_PDF/Hitlers_Flying_Saucers.pdf
The sighting in question was reported to the author, Mr. Zunneck, by Horst Schuppmann whose friend knew the pilot of the JU-52 in question. The date was July, 1944. Accompanying the pilot on this three and one-half hour flight was a co-pilot, a mechanic, and the radio man. The airplane took off from Brest-Deblin and flew on a westerly course to Lublin. The flight was unfolding smoothly which was somewhat abnormal for the particular time and stage of the war. Over Stettin Lagoon preparations were made to land. A large white cross was sighted which was the marker for their goal, a meadow landing strip. The aircraft descended, landed normally and rolled toward a group of bushes which would hide the aircraft from view. Then things took a decided turn to the abnormal. Harsh orders were received that the pilot, co-pilot and mechanic were not to exit the airplane. Suddenly, the radio man had vanished. The others waited an hour in vain for his return.
Finally, the pilot decided to get out of the airplane and find his missing crewman, without orders, and on his own. On the airfield itself nobody was to be seen. There was only one building visible which was a lonely hanger. The pilot, ever concerned with maintaining cover, headed straight for this hanger. Upon arrival he opened an narrow, high sliding door and entered, hoping to receive some information. No person was to be seen but what the pilot did see bewildered him so that the image was deeply ingrained in his mind.
There in the hanger stood three or four very large, round, dark dish shaped metal constructions on telescope-like leg stands. The objects were about 6 meters off the ground and the objects themselves were 12 to 15 meters in diameter. The pilot compared the shape of the objects to a giant soup dish or soup plate. Suddenly, out of the half darkness a military guard emerged. The guard let the pilot know that he was in an area which was strictly off limits. In fact, the pilot was told, on no uncertain terms, to disappear immediately or this would be his last day on earth.
[...]
Of course the question of what those objects in the hanger really were comes back to this pilot even after almost 55 years. The pilot personally attributes it to the so called "Magnetscheibe", literally, "magnet-disk". According to the pilot rumors of these objects circulated in pilot circles since the summer of 1944.
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Report of a Pole ex Nazi prisoner about a 75-100-yard-wide, 68-92-meter-long disk that stalled a tractor 150 meters away, a German soldier aware of the test of a spacecraft commanded not to try to start the tractor until the spacecraft left the area. This is happening in East Germany, 1944. Part of the document screenshot below
https://vault.fbi.gov/UFO/UFO%20Part%2012%20of%2016/view?fbclid=IwAR3RyYoTW5fJxh0KCT2boe2Tql_q79IefTrf8L1QyhgvKQ70cfbE6uizuA4#document/p88
Also this documentary about the aforementioned Nazi spacecraft. The sound is a bit out of sync but it doesn't matter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3Wm889smq8
An example that even totally conventional things like the most ordinary airship only with a carbon fiber body is a top secret and on any inquiry about it Lockheed gives no comments, not to mention exotic stuff.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SpecialAccess/comments/19tkpc/this_is_the_lockheed_starship_sra_from_the_early/c8ro1h7/
An excellent lecture by Bill Hamilton on American Underground Bases. Special Emphasis on "Anthill" Northrup RCS Facility, Tejon, California
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nADPouWFfSE
Cosmic Top Secret: America's Secret Ufo Program - Bill Hamilton
https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/William%20Hamilton%20-%20Cosmic%20Top%20Secret%20-%20America%27s%20Secret%20UFO%20Program.pdf
Reagan's diary, Tuesday, June 11, 1985
"Lunch was with 5 top space scientists. It was fascinating. Space truly is the last frontier and some of the developments there in astronomy etc. are like science fiction except they are real. I learned that our shuttle capacity is such we could orbit 300 people. "
https://www.reaganfoundation.org/ronald-reagan/white-house-diaries/diary-entry-06111985/
According to the testimony of Jan Harzan, engineer and one of the directors of MUFON, in 1976 at a lecture by Ben Rich, who was a director of Lockheed Skunkworks (Lockheed's secret project department) for 16 years, Ben showed a black disk in space at the end of the lecture and stated " We now have the technology to take ET home".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB3ngWGwShs
First photo below is ARV from Provo, Utah, 1966, others are screenshots from JL Walson's (same guy shot the city on the near site) videos showing man made craft in orbit. I wonder if these show the same 600 foot arrow seen in remote Utah desert from Gordon Novel's report above.
Report Gordon A novel about a character who went on a 2005 trip to the Utah desert 40km from the nearest road, at one point saw a 180-foot arrow-shaped spacecraft silently descend, a camouflaged door in the ground opened and the spacecraft disappeared.
http://projectavalon.net/Gordon_Novel_Coast_to_Coast_AM_Jan_17_2010_Hour_2_extract.mp3
Other photos are screenshots from JL Walson's footage, here are some
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZs_280mSxU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yflzv53rI9g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf0k2eqWg_U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBumd8PdLrc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmsuZe9P1b0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gJPfRZlXkc
If you take a good look at the arrow shaped craft below, i believe it is built in the shape of a bull, i am almost certain these are Templars.
thanks for the links !
have you read information from wikileaks too ?
You're welcome. I don't know which info from Wikileaks you refer to, i already posted this on previous pages but here it is.
REPORT THAT UR DESTROYED SECRET US BASE ON MOON
Date: 1979 January 24, 00:00 (Wednesday)
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/P790011-1247_e.html
I been corrected on my how does the secondary know idea at highvoltageforum.net.
Basically, i knew voltage across the inductor is proportional to it's inductance and speed of change of current, basically Faraday's law.
v = L(di/dt)
But i somehow imagined various combinations in the primary producing the same flux do not respect the turns ratio, but they do.
Here is
HIS ELABORATION
QuoteI agree with the first part, but don't see Faraday's law breaking down. Would you mind reviewing the following example, designed with "flyback-like" size and frequency, and point out what I'm missing?
The core has effective length 10 cm, area 1 cm^2, permeability 796. To make coil inductances 1 microhenry per turn squared.
Let's operate at 15.9 kHz, for radian frequency of 10^5.
Our first primary coil has 10 turns (L = 100 uH), intended to operate at 10 V (peak) with magnetizing current of 1 A (peak). MMF is 10 amp-turns, H is 100 A/m, Bmax is 0.1 T, peak flux is 10 uWb, dF/dt (peak) = 1 Wb/s, inducing 1 volt/turn. The unit "webers per second" is dimensionally identical to the volt unit.
Our alternate primary coil has 5 turns (L=25 uH), to operate at 5 V (peak) with magnetizing current of 2 A (peak). MMF is 10 amp-turns, ..., dF/dt is 1 Wb/s as before.
Our secondary has 40 turns (L = 1600 uH), and will have peak voltage of 40 V no matter which primary coil is used. Each turn of the secondary goes around 1 Wb/s of flux change rate, so Faraday says 1 volt per turn.
If a secondary load draws 1A, that would increase the primary current by 4 A (original coil) or 8 A (alternate coil). Net MMF (ampere turns) and net dF/dt are about the same as the unloaded case, no matter which primary coil is used.
What suggests to you that Faraday's law isn't valid here? If the example is missing a pathological case, what can we vary to expose the failure?
Note 1: normally the secondary load current and corresponding change in primary current are in phase with the voltage, while the magnetizing currents have 90 degree phase lag wrt the voltage.
MY REPLY
QuoteNow that you gave a practical example, i gotta say my bad. I knew this, i even said it from post one that voltage across the primary is proportional to it's inductance, that is, flux, so turns ratio is automatically respected.
[...]
We all know when secondary is open IV through the primary are 90° outta phase, in reality little less due to various magnetizing losses. Loading the secondary with resistive load brings primary IV more into phase, like i in the first post, "as if resistor appears in parallel with the primary inductance". Ofc magnetizing IVs are always 90° outta phase and load currents are always in phase, well, at least if load is purely resistive.
If load is inductive then picture is not so clear, but extending what happens in the core to the load, we can assume this inductive load will also appear as an inductor and resistor in parallel and larger the work done larger the virtual resistor in parallel will appear again bringing IV in phase.
I assume we can extend the last paragraph to capacitive loads altho i never read about this anywhere, of course, electric field just like magnetic field can also be used to do work and as you all probably know there are various electrostatic motors, some newer ones of significant power (some even speculate about replacing magnetic ones). Anyway..
Quote from: nix85 on March 23, 2022, 02:11:50 AM
But i somehow imagined various combinations in the primary producing the same flux do not respect the turns ratio, but they do.
I put that wrong, i did not imagine turns ratio is not respected, it obviously is, i imagined the fact that turns ratio is respected even when change of flux is the same violated the Faraday's law.
To recap on the subject, for "normal" (non flyback) transformer, i'd summarize it like this to cover all the angles.
When transformer is unloaded (secondary open) only magnetizing current flows through the primary which is tiny compared to load current and is always (almost) 90° outta phase with the driving voltage, almost but not 90° due to various losses, namely, eddy currents, hysteresis, magnetostriction and copper losses (P = I²R). Average flux in the core is maximum in no-load state and slightly smaller in the full-load state.
When secondary is loaded, counterflux developed by the secondary demagnetizes the core and this makes the voltage across the primary to drop since this voltage is directly proportional to rate of change of flux, we all know Faraday's (or should i say Henry's) law V=--N*dΦ/dt.
Voltage across an inductor can also be expressed as V = L(di/dt)
And current through an inductor I = (V-E)/Z where V is voltage of the source driving the primary and E is voltage drop across primary's inductance. Clearly, when secondary demagnetizes the core and flux through the primary drops, so does it's inductive reactance Z and voltage across it E, V remaining the same means current must rise and so it does trying to bring the flux back to the original value but it never fully manages to do so, so, as said before, max load flux is slightly less than no load flux.
To the circuit driving the primary, it appears as if a resistor appears in parallel with the inductance of the primary, bigger the load smaller the resistor appears, obviously.
As said above magnetizing current is always almost 90° out of phase with the driving voltage while the load current is always in-phase. At least when the load is purely resistive.
If load is inductive then picture is not so clear, but extending what happens with the resistive load, we can assume this inductive load will also appear as an inductor and resistor in parallel and larger the work done larger the virtual resistor in parallel will appear again bringing IV in phase.
I guess we can extend the last paragraph to capacitive loads too, of course, electric field just like magnetic field can also be used to do work and as you all probably know there are various electrostatic motors, some newer ones of significant power (some even speculate about replacing magnetic ones).
As for flyback, the only difference is, as said before in the thread, induction in the secondary happens with a delay (due to internal diodes blocking the current in one direction) when the primary flux collapses. Ignition coil uses the same principle, store, collapse, get 10x (or more) voltage in the primary and x turns ratio in the secondary.
Talking of ignition coil, the reason for cap across the switch (be it mechanical relay or a MOSFET) is to limit the peak voltage, cap appearing as a short for an instant and lower the resistance in the circuit of the collapsing flux, lower will be the peak, obviously, higher the resistance higher the peak and faster will it burn out.
What happens when you place an Avramenko plug into the voltage line of the wall outlet and put between the 2 diodes a regular 110/220V step-down transformer?
And what would happen when the transformer is customized so the primary or secondary has the length of 1/4 wavelength of 50/60Hz?
Quote from: nix85 on October 16, 2021, 07:58:02 AM
;D How bout you read before posting. For russian expedition the quote i posted clearly says second expedition showed it's probably natural/volcanic and i wrote 'probably false alarm'..
Other reports like Azores pyramid remain undebunked and need further investigation. Sadly, these things end up suppressed.
Pepedeluxe attachment is not bs, i clearly wrote i am sharing it cause it contains a summary of how young Frederick Spencer Oliver came to ghost write this occult classic of unmeasurable value.
"Russian propaganda" ;D
Speaking of science, you claimed (quoting official narrative), there is no power amplification in parallel RLC yet i have shown number of examples where we see clear power amplification in parallel RLC.
105W in 2.34kW reactive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVgp-gOBqsg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVgp-gOBqsg)
200W in 3.5kw reactive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sfOKPIi6CM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sfOKPIi6CM)
Etc
Just some thoughts.
In parallel an RLC has max current through each component at resonant frequency, and the current magnitudes exceed the input current (infinite if it was possible), but the vector sum does equal input current. The current is still higher than the input current and is being converted to a magnetic field which depends on a changing current only (L=N.dϕ/di, Ldi/N=dϕ), this field can do work freely according to work of a potential field (a permanent magnet can attract iron freely) before being converted back to current according to conservation of energy. So there are 2 types of energy, field energy that isn't consumed (gravitational) and conservative energy (one form to another, current>flux>current).
I was wondering if such an inductor could freely drive an iron piston by repetitive attraction only.
You already asked the first question in another thread,
you can try it and see the result.
I shared this in Don Smith thread (not my vid)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy1_J7ZjP7M
As for reactive current...
"but the vector sum does equal input current"
Reactive current exceeds the input current by Q factor,
it does not equal the input current by any means, input current
merely compensates for copper losses and even that can be
avoided in certain configurations (drawing everything
from ground).
Here is a good video about it (conventional)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVOibkXeZs8
Reactive power can do 'free' work in special configurations
if load is far removed from the input, but in ordinary
configurations loading the resonant tank will instantly kill
the resonance and bring voltage and current in phase and
make the circuit draw more active power like in ZVS heater
for example.
I seen various ways of varying effectiveness.
Some pump up 5-6kw of reactive power in the middle
part of the circuit to take 1/3 of it as real output with
200w in the input and this of course requires huge
transformers, very bulky, and i seen it done far
more efficiently with small transformers where
input is down to 8W and all is taken from earth.
So it depends.
Reactive power is regular V*I but through a reactive element, it is stored and released back instead of (c)ohmically dissipated.
vector sum (incorporating phase) of all currents are equal to input current.
This might be of interest.
Energy Multiplier in Retarded Resonance (vixra.org) (https://vixra.org/pdf/1108.0010v1.pdf)
Energy Multiplier in Retarded Resonance (vixra.org) (https://vixra.org/pdf/1109.0043v1.pdf)
The Retarded Energy Transmission between Remote Electromagnetic Resonance (vixra.org) (https://vixra.org/pdf/1104.0052v1.pdf)
Cheers,
Pix
We all know reactive power is "borrowed" and returned, not wasted
except for the copper losses - why power companies dislike it.
Power factor = true power / apparent power
Apparent power is RMS voltage x RMS current
Reactive power = sqrt(apparent²-real²)
As for vector sum currents being equal you clearly refer to active current
only since reactive currents in LC cancel out, so what, that is what i meant
by input current only compensates for copper losses.
That is all perfectly understood. What matters is to take that built up
reactive power, that reactive magnetic field, and do real work with it
without affecting the input significantly.
Thanks for suggesting this channel. This is what I meant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv9Z-rP4q5c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv9Z-rP4q5c)
(Is < Ir+Ic+Il)
Pix: Interesting papers
Quote from: alan on June 08, 2022, 11:56:06 AM
Thanks for suggesting this channel. This is what I meant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv9Z-rP4q5c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv9Z-rP4q5c)
(Is < Ir+Ic+Il)
Pix: Interesting papers
Very interesting.
Old Tesla.
Cheers,
Pix
Quote from: pix on June 08, 2022, 12:01:55 PM
Very interesting.
Old Tesla.
Cheers,
Pix
Nice,2nd pdf is too similar to EMjunkie's partnered output coil proof-of-concept experiment.
Quote from: alan on June 08, 2022, 12:06:28 PM
Nice,2nd pdf is too similar to EMjunkie's partnered output coil proof-of-concept experiment.
Most imprtant is 1/4 wave electrical distance from the source to the load.
Welcome. I i knew from the first moment you mentioned vector sum you are
referring to phase angles, but why even waste time on such well assumed basics.
Ofc capacitive current leads voltage by 90° and inductive current lags voltage by 90°, clearly, from outside perspective they cancel out and only ohmic loss current remains. I been saying this for years here and it's been known forever.
I addressed this detail already when i said how loading the resonant tank destroys resonance and brings voltage and current in phase.
Video you linked is ideal parallel RLC which is the exact opposite of real parallel RLC
Q factor wise. In ideal parallel RLC resistor is not in series with an inductor (as in real RLC) but in parallel, thus Q factor is proportional to resistance while in real parallel RLC Q is inversely proportional to resistance, just like for series RLC.
What matters is that, contrary to conventional "wisdom", one can build up reactive power in parallel RLC and this reactive power if done correctly can become a sink
for ambient.
As for 1/4 wavelength, that is all nice and sweet but ultimatelly we see it's totally not needed. Most of OU devices work at lower frequencies, few dozen KHz max, 1/4 for that would be many km/miles, For example for 50Hz it is 1,500 km, so we see it does not matter at all.
Here is another example what's possible with resonant trans....
He is drawing about 17W from the wall and powers few hundred watt
worth of lamps almost completely from earth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDIDD8Kmmwk
Already tiny amp draw from the wall goes even lower when he turns on the lights.
Quote from: nix85 on June 08, 2022, 12:30:06 PM
As for 1/4 wavelength, that is all nice and sweet but ultimatelly we see it's totally not needed. Most of OU devices work at lower frequencies, few dozen KHz max, 1/4 for that would be many km/miles, For example for 50Hz it is 1,500 km, so we see it does not matter at all.
Tesla coil works in kHZ range. It is a slow wave structure. Any loaded helical transmission line have velocity inhibiting properties. You get 1/4 wavelength with reasonable size.
Cheers,
Pix
I know Tesla coils usually work in hundredish KHz range so 1/4 is easily obtainable.
Also it's not that just helical transmission lines have "velocity inhibiting properties"
velocity factor applies to all conductors and speed of light may fall down to 0.6c.
Point is it is 1/4 is not needed to get OU, AT-ALL and one may waste time and money
chasing the wrong rabbit.
Tesla used frequencies around 100KHz, Gennady Ignatyev who made a
life size replica of Wardenclyffe Tower used 180KHz (Hans Coler ferromagnetic
freq.) and said Tesla used that freq...
But again, how many resonant trasnformers one needs to see drawing kilowatts
from earth at 50Hz to realize one does not need dozens or hundreds of KHz for
big gains. It is not as black n white as Don put it voltage x frequency. If it was
so gains at 50Hz would be nothing, but they are not, they are huge.
This cold electricity we're after is at very high frequency but clearly, it can be
drawn even with very low freq.
Quote from: nix85 on June 08, 2022, 02:18:42 PM
Here is another example what's possible with resonant trans....
He is drawing about 17W from the wall and powers few hundred watt
worth of lamps almost completely from earth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDIDD8Kmmwk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDIDD8Kmmwk)
Already tiny amp draw from the wall goes even lower when he turns on the lights.
Of course. Resonance is a key. Reminds me Stepanov resonant transformer.
Quote from: pix on June 08, 2022, 02:42:32 PM
Of course. Resonance is a key. Reminds me Stepanov resonant transformer.
Indeed it is.
And yea, i read about Stepanov back in the day, his res. trans., and his disproving of
Einstein. He "suicided", as many who succeeded.
Little correction, while i knew about Stepanov resonant transformer
and seen his videos on youtube, the detail about disproving Einstein and suicide
refers to another guy, Dr. Stefan Marinov.
Quote from: nix85 on June 08, 2022, 10:02:12 PM
Little correction, while i knew about Stepanov resonant transformer
and seen his videos on youtube, the detail about disproving Einstein and suicide
refers to another guy, Dr. Stefan Marinov.
Stepanov et cohortes:
Our Team - Global STH Technology (sth-technology.ru) (http://sth-technology.ru/index.php?id=team)
Looks loke reactive power correction-type. On the picttures you see big inductances, a lot of capacitors, diodes. They said needs to be powered from balanced 3 phase supply or 3 phase DC/AC converter.
Quote from: pix on June 09, 2022, 04:49:59 AM
Stepanov et cohortes:
Our Team - Global STH Technology (sth-technology.ru) (http://sth-technology.ru/index.php?id=team)
Looks loke reactive power correction-type. On the picttures you see big inductances, a lot of capacitors, diodes. They said needs to be powered from balanced 3 phase supply or 3 phase DC/AC converter.
Funny you post that, believe it or not for last few days i have been studying
EXACTLY that. That scheme is from Alexander Mikhalych who apparently
replicated Stepanov.
Here is interview with him in Russian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu2Rbjr80RI
He says basically the same things that are written in the article
https://jeraff.ru/en/generator-transformer-with-resonant-winding-resonance-transformer-energy-from-ether/
He is the one i referred to when i said "some pump up 5-6kW in the middle of the
circuit and take out 1/3 of that". If you read the article you will see that is exactly
what he does.
But, as i also wrote, his approach is very bulky and needs very big transformers.
Also he is talking about magnetically insulating the secondary of the left trans
and primary of the right one supposedly to remove them from the load.
As you see in the scheme he is taking part of the output parametrically
feeding the input.
Yes i see big inductances, look at that huge 3phase trans in the first photo.
Tons of big caps too. Such a bulky system.
It's a worthy example of success, but not the most efficient one. All that can
be simplified and scaled waaay down. And without the need for 3 phase
balanced supply.
Quote from: nix85 on June 09, 2022, 08:16:38 AM
Here is interview with him in Russian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu2Rbjr80RI
This video is from the channel "global wave" it seems.
You ask Wesley about this organization. I don't think he has much respect for it. :)
Quote from: kolbacict on June 09, 2022, 11:25:05 AM
This video is from the channel "global wave" it seems.
You ask Wesley about this organization. I don't think he has much respect for it. :)
Wesley, you mean guy who claimed that power cannot be amplified in RLC tank,
in this very thread few pages back. Need i say more.
And another example what is possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XClNRaFJLTM
0-4W draw from the wall, load 300W.
Google translated video description
"Overunity transformer with 600 VA power. Transformer powered by mixed dimmer x resistive - inductive loads of 500 VA., Powered by 220 V AC current rectified by 4 diode bridges. A series of halogen lamps for one load have been connected to the outputs approximately 200 VA. Two other transformers are also connected to the power strip of the transformer, one of which consists of a series of 6 and the other of a single one with power factor correction capacitor without load. In the series of 6 a load of about 100 Va was connected by means of n. 2 car lamps. Lastly, 4 10 VA lamps are connected on the same socket, each regularly lit in the test. The total load on the illustrated circuit is approximately about 300 VA with input oscillating from 0 to 4 VA."
He is talking about 7 other transformers which can't be seen in the video, one of them with power correction cap, all in series. This resonates nicely with Stepanov. Large inductance 'removing' load from the wall.
Quote from: nix85 on June 09, 2022, 12:14:23 PM
Wesley, you mean guy who claimed that power cannot be amplified in RLC tank,
in this very thread few pages back. Need i say more.
No, no, this is not about a specific device.
Wesley was talking about the collective of people who work on the Global Wave channel.
Quote from: kolbacict on June 09, 2022, 12:36:47 PM
No, no, this is not about a specific device.
Wesley was talking about the collective of people who work on the Global Wave channel.
I understood what you said and answered that he himself is not reliable.
Guy i shared before who pumps 2.34kW in his big trans with 105W input.
Here he is looping it with UPS battery, battery starts at 13.69V.
Then he powers 280W of lights + charges the batter to 14.3V.
Reactive power is 1163W here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYWgcRB73bw
This is the best Tesla experimenter looking for FE and doing it open-source
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SL0ne3F0JvM
"The best..." Funny. He is seeking, i'll give him that.
He made a similar statement years ago
under video Solid state Tesla Hair-pin circuit-Replication
"@sanjev21 yes I have tried many variations including coupling all 3 coils. with various results. Some interesting as the current draw dropped to 32mA at 24V dc, while still producing 220V 2.5 A in phase voltage and current in resonant L3"
And i conversed with him about and explained few details to him,
he seems to have confused the issue of in-phase.
VI are in phase only when energy transfer/conversion happens. So, if VI
are in phase it means coil is doing work as a primary of a transformer, a
heater or antenna or doing work as a stator of a motor...
And now he claims 100kW "in-phase". If VI were in phase in that coil and coil
is not doing work in 'normal' ways, it would mean all power goes to copper
losses and it would vaporize instantly.
He is researching what things can be done with displacement current according to his own structured step by step methodology, others show magic without good explanation of how it's done, in RU.
Magnifying power can be modeled as negative resistance - as shown in that pdf from vixra - for which the current is in opposite direction and in phase, or leaving the resistor towards the high potential side.
I know he is into displacement current and stacked Tesla pancakes, nothing new
or original about that.
Don Smith reported on a Yahoo group in 2006 that using 3 resonant Tesla pancakes
with 14 watt input he literally melted the diode bridge rated at 20,000V and 200A.
That's more than 4 Megawatts.
Again, this claim of IV in phase in the third coil does not hold water.
You can model overunity as negative resistance, that is an old and popular idea.
I read all pdfs from vixra, that is all nice and sweet but that is just an attempt to
conventionally explain what cannot be conventionally explained.
Fact is literal negative resistance is not happening in most OU devices neither is
current flowing in reverse. There is simply an amplification of energy.
According to Dan Combine's pdf from 2006. attached below radiant energy
enters the resonant circuit at voltage nodes as depicted by the red stars.
So there is not necessarily even amplification of current, just, for example,
a 220V 1000W bulb lit fully with 19V across it and 4.5A through it. Bolt also
spoke about this.
Accidentally came across a book parametric transformers (parametric power supplies)
I drew attention to the analogy with your circuit (circled by me in red)
.zip]http://publ.lib.ru/ARCHIVES/Z/ZADEREY_Gennadiy_Panteleymonovich/Zaderey_G.P..._Mnogofunkcional'nye_transformatory_v_sredstvah_vtorichnogo_elektropitaniya.(1989).[djv-fax].zip (http://publ.lib.ru/ARCHIVES/Z/ZADEREY_Gennadiy_Panteleymonovich/Zaderey_G.P..._Mnogofunkcional'nye_transformatory_v_sredstvah_vtorichnogo_elektropitaniya.(1989).%5Bdjv-fax)
These were mass-produced power supplies for electronic equipment.
I think it was in other countries too.
From Dan's pdf above.
"Ever read the meaning of resistance and voltage drop in a basic LRC circuit?
At resonance you have 0 voltage at n amperes and x voltage at 0 amperes;
L is in current node; C is in voltage node. Where is R then? According to
the standard theory, R as a lightbulb is in PHASE, but the reality is that R
is at 90% REACTIVE state being at CURRENT node, so the energy loading
e.g. a 220 VAC 1,000W lightbulb might just have a voltage drop of 19V and
amperage of 4.5 A. Why does it light up at full potential then?"
Along similar lines bolt's posts here.
https://overunity.com/9521/magnacoaster-vorktex/
"You have to read back through my posts click my handle and read i published
loads. But here is my AWAKENING tool. Take a 250 watt light bulb and in series
fit a capacitor and inductor selected so the i/p power is power factor ZERO.
The watts consumed and measured by any suitable test method will show
leakage power around 3 watts when i did this. The 250 watt light is FULLY LIT.
The volts drop across the bulb is about 12 volts. The bulb works underwater
perfectly fully lit. The power factor is virtually zero creates standing wave the
bulb is powered by zero point energy for FREE.
its the basis for many many OU systems."
There is your "secret", there is no secret, it's just reactive power sucking in RE
but it's very delicate and requires precise tuning for best effects.
Any replications out there?
Won't the resistive bulb cause an increase of the PF, or make it more positive on the real axis in the complex plane?
They say in an inductor voltage leads current, but it is the changing current that causes the voltage, mathematically voltage is the derivative of current, cosine is the derivative of sine. at sin(0) the value is 0 but the change is maximum, the cosine plots the change. Capacitor is similar, current is caused by a changing voltage, but it is described as current leads voltage.
But that's all basic stuff that most people here know.
Yes, that's basic stuff all know but a good point and i've been thinking about that lately.
Indeed, voltage across an inductor appears due to change in current, so technically
there has to be some current FIRST before back EMF jumps to supply voltage value
and blocks sudden rise to full current. And exactly the same things happens for voltage
in a cap indeed, there has to first be a change in voltage across a cap for current
to flow "into" it.
Good place to remind voltage across transformer primary or secondary is
E = 4.44 * number of turns * frequency * flux in the core
But for flux in the core to appear there first has to be current through the coil
This flux is proportional to input voltage and inversely proportional to frequency
E/f
EDIT:
it seemed there is different current on two wires input into MOT
but it turns out these clamp meters, maybe cause they are
relatively cheap Chinese ones, are direction dependent,
to get accurate value, you have to flip it when measuring
two wires in which current is in different direction.
In other words if first wire is coming into the clamp from
above on the left side, then to measure other wire which
is parallel to it, it must enter the clamp from below on the
left side.
Otherwise readings are totally wrong.
Did everyone here just give up, we need to share experiences, keep it up if we are
to succeed. I been working with two MOTs lately, resonating them, i bought 45uF
and 16uF caps which turned out to be 41.3uF and 14.7uF, the smaller one was
supposed to be for Don replica but i might as well use it for this.
My first idea was resonate the primary at 50Hz and two secondaries in series also.
I managed to resonate the secondaries with circa 90nF, but i could not directly
measure primary resonance on soundcard scope (or any scope). The problem is
inductance of the secondaries is so much larger, namely 57.1H combined while
primaries are only 290mH and 351mH that it totally overrides the primary, no
matter if primary is with or without caps, when i touch it with 1.5V batter i always
see the secondary resonating, it overpowers it with it's huge inductance.
So i had to use the calculator which is not exactly precise, it predicts lower
resonant frequency that it really is.
Also when secondary is closed in series with another secondary or by itself, with caps
or not, it drops primary's inductance from 290mH to 218mH. I got this cheap
LC meter which is pretty good
https://www.ebay.com/itm/324369430072
However, i did not manage to get current draw down with caps on the primary which
should make it resonate around 50Hz and secondaries in series definitely resonating
at 50Hz, current draw is about the same, around 2A.
I tried connecting 5 200W lightbulbs in series between resonating secondaries and
metal water pipe in the bathroom that goes underground of course. Nothing.
Strange thing however happened when i shorted one of the secondaries, current draw
dropped to 1.4A.
I also tried connecting those 5 bulbs directly between two secondaries, nothing, second
secondary steals all the voltage so i tried with just one MOT, they light very brightly
but i did not manage to get current draw below 5A which is little over 1kW.
I have now put 5 same bulbs in parallel, i will rather try connecting them to primary(ies) and trying to resonate. Problem is i don't know how much of the
current draw is active or reactive, waiting for power meter to arrive.
This idea is an old one from Dan Combine and bolt, to light a big bulb with reactive power.
I am also thinking combining this with bifilar-scalar primary from Don replica.
If more of us focus on this it will be better for all, to share experiences.
Quote from: nix85 on June 09, 2022, 08:16:38 AM
That scheme is from Alexander Mikhalych who apparently
replicated Stepanov.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu2Rbjr80RI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu2Rbjr80RI)
He says basically the same things that are written in the article
https://jeraff.ru/en/generator-transformer-with-resonant-winding-resonance-transformer-energy-from-ether/ (https://jeraff.ru/en/generator-transformer-with-resonant-winding-resonance-transformer-energy-from-ether/)
Stepanov, contacted me, prior to his trip to Hamburg. I refused his offer.
In Hamburg Stepanov met Arthur German investor.
German investor, requested from Stepanov, Akula's performance.
in order to not lose Arthur, -Stepanov hired Tiger to examine Akula's device.
After that, German investor, visited Akula
After that Stepanov with Akula and Tiger landed in Germany.
over a year later all of them returned home.
so Alexander Mikhalych couldn't
replicate Stepanov, as Stepanov was rejected by Arthur the German investor due to the lack of performance.
and let's say, I know who Arthur is.
–by that,
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from this video of likely sponsored by Russian propaganda Global Wave YouTube channel
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jeraff.ru______________________________________________Quote from: nix85 on June 09, 2022, 12:14:23 PM
Wesley, you mean guy who claimed that power cannot be amplified in RLC tank,
in this very thread few pages back. Need i say more.
RLC filter as amplifier? - Electrical Engineering Stack ... (https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=49aafcd0e73a9f2c6146e524d825cb5a645c5ac5e232666ed66e83dc10c59712JmltdHM9MTY1NjAxOTA1NSZpZ3VpZD01MmUxMjNiOC0yNzVjLTRiYzItYjdjOS03ZjUyZjljZTNmNzAmaW5zaWQ9NTE3Mg&ptn=3&fclid=e6d72d13-f339-11ec-b3f8-183a6f5f9e32&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly9lbGVjdHJvbmljcy5zdGFja2V4Y2hhbmdlLmNvbS9xdWVzdGlvbnMvMjM5ODUyL3JsYy1maWx0ZXItYXMtYW1wbGlmaWVy&ntb=1)https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/239852 (https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/239852)
QuoteIn other words you can't get power amplification.
but
It can amplify the voltage (near to the resonant frequency) at the expense of load current.
so In other words
you can't get power amplification. :)
Wesley
Quote from: nix85 on June 09, 2022, 12:37:50 PM
I understood what you said and answered that he himself is not reliable.
so if I am not reliable than please prove me wrong
The statement is :
Quote from: stivep on June 23, 2022, 05:23:41 PM
RLC filter as amplifier? - Electrical Engineering Stack ... (https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=49aafcd0e73a9f2c6146e524d825cb5a645c5ac5e232666ed66e83dc10c59712JmltdHM9MTY1NjAxOTA1NSZpZ3VpZD01MmUxMjNiOC0yNzVjLTRiYzItYjdjOS03ZjUyZjljZTNmNzAmaW5zaWQ9NTE3Mg&ptn=3&fclid=e6d72d13-f339-11ec-b3f8-183a6f5f9e32&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly9lbGVjdHJvbmljcy5zdGFja2V4Y2hhbmdlLmNvbS9xdWVzdGlvbnMvMjM5ODUyL3JsYy1maWx0ZXItYXMtYW1wbGlmaWVy&ntb=1)https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/239852 (https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/239852)but
you can't get power amplification from RLC
:)
try our best my friend, but keep in mind:
no matter what you say about RLC power amplification that is a complete nonsense.
You will also be ask to explain what that extra amplified power comes from?
what is that power origin?
the law of conservation of energy:
energy cannot be created nor destroyed.Wesley
Quote from: stivep on June 23, 2022, 05:23:41 PM...
so Alexander Mikhalych couldn't
replicate Stepanov, as Stepanov was rejected by Arthur the German investor due to the lack of performance.
and let's say, I know who Arthur is.
So you are calling Stepanov and Mikhalych liars, just because of some German guy
you supposedly know. I would disagree. For a simple reason what they claim has been
confirmed so many times by unrelated people world over number of which have been
shared here.
Quote
______________________________________________
RLC filter as amplifier? - Electrical Engineering Stack ... (https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=49aafcd0e73a9f2c6146e524d825cb5a645c5ac5e232666ed66e83dc10c59712JmltdHM9MTY1NjAxOTA1NSZpZ3VpZD01MmUxMjNiOC0yNzVjLTRiYzItYjdjOS03ZjUyZjljZTNmNzAmaW5zaWQ9NTE3Mg&ptn=3&fclid=e6d72d13-f339-11ec-b3f8-183a6f5f9e32&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly9lbGVjdHJvbmljcy5zdGFja2V4Y2hhbmdlLmNvbS9xdWVzdGlvbnMvMjM5ODUyL3JsYy1maWx0ZXItYXMtYW1wbGlmaWVy&ntb=1)https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/239852 (https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/239852)but
It can amplify the voltage (near to the resonant frequency) at the expense of load current.
so In other words you can't get power amplification.
:)
Wesley
Really, again, i really expected more from someone who's been in this for so long.
I linked that article or referred to it when i first spoke of this conventional stance
on this issue. Voltage amplification at expense of current and vice versa.
We are not interested in series resonance cause that is a short circuit.
Again, if there can be no power amplification, how come this guy
amplifies the power to 2.34kW reactive with 105W input.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVgp-gOBqsg
Or 3.5kw reactive with 200W input.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sfOKPIi6CM
So it is definitely possible to amplify power, you may argue if that power
is usable. Indeed, usually loading the resonant tank will kill the resonance
and increase power draw. But just few posts ago i linked the same guy
from first example (2.34kW) looping it, i copy paste.
QuoteGuy i shared before who pumps 2.34kW in his big trans with 105W input.
Here he is looping it with UPS battery, battery starts at 13.69V.
Then he powers 280W of lights + charges the batter to 14.3V.
Reactive power is 1163W here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYWgcRB73bw
So we see it is not only possible to amplify power in RLC tank,
but also loop it and draw excess energy from it.
Another old, unknown success video, this guy is apparently doubling the power
using three coils on same half core, two coils on the sides are in opposition, screams
scalar.
Subtitles - auto translate are your friend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df48bstPN14
please present the answer a few questions:
– what is that extra energy coming from?
– Please provide an article scientifically sound that supports your claim, can you?
– can you prove that this article has a false statement and why?
https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/239852
:) (https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/239852)
Wesley
Let's keep it clear.
No one really cares about the source as long as we can access it. Earth is being
showered by incredible amount of (non-herzian) energy constantly, small part of it
gets slowed down into light and heat in the atmosphere, small part we feel as gravity,
while great majority of it simply passes through Earth. Some of it gets converted into
light by certain minerals at great depths where greenish glow with no apparent source
is eternal, but that is another subject. Call it neutrions or tachyons, names matter now.
Fact is we are immersed in inexhaustible subtle streams which just need to be tapped.
What matters is that it's possible to pump up kilowatts of reactive power with ~100W input.
Are you denying this? Cause proof is strong that this is the case.
Obviously high reactive power stirs up the ether and then part of the energy can be
tapped, how much depends. In the example above only about 1/3 of reactive power
is used, in this example, which is much much better, input is down to 8-9W, while
1100W is taken from Earth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3dc-5tPc90
BTW i commented on this guy's video and sent him an email, he responds not.
I saw his comments on other Russian overunity videos, what i learned is that he's
been in it for more than 12 years and just a year before this success
after another guy wrote it's best to give up he said he felt the same.
What we see is 1100W connected between radiator and a circuit which is two
autotransformers aka variacs and then apparently two transformer primaries
in series, for left one he says resonant and this one also apparently has wires
going to the other side, God knows what he did, did he short primary and sec
or what.
If someone thinks i am making up that he wanted to give up just 1 year before
this great success, here is the whole comment discussion.
He is Дмитрий Божок aka Dmitry Bozhok
chiksat1
4 years agoundo
Hello, where did they disappear, did such good experiments,., and where did the video disappear, with this trance but in a large toroid, for heating, or is it already a commercial project, and therefore removed.
Mykhaylo Balush
4 years agoundo
chiksat1 Send me your email address and I'll reply...
Дмитрий Божок
3 years agotranslate
@Mykhaylo Balush dmitrij-bozhok@yandex.ru напишите, у меня тоже есть кое-какие наработки
Mykhaylo Balush
3 years ago (edited)undo
@Dmitry Bozhok, I am not even interested in my developments now ... Live in peace, why should you suffer: to invent, not to sleep at night ...
Дмитрий Божок
3 years agotranslate
@Mykhaylo Balush it won't work out calmly, since I've been doing this for 9 years
Mykhaylo Balush
3 years agoundo
@Dmitry Bozhok, You can do this all your life and achieve nothing. I gave up this occupation, I'm so calm now.
Дмитрий Божок
3 years agoundo
@Mykhaylo Balush then I realized, I myself am starting to come to this conclusion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkCeTFQgeRI
Quote from: nix85 on June 23, 2022, 06:42:03 PM
Let's keep it clear.
so let's keep it clear.
Please provide the answer to my questions
one by
one:
no extra rhetorical mumbo-jumbo
I repeat the questions for you again:please present the answer for a few questions:
– what is that extra energy coming from?
– Please provide an article scientifically sound that supports your claim, can you?
– can you prove that this article has a false statement and why?
https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/239852
(http://overunity.com/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
(https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/239852)
:) Wesley
Again you muddy the waters with pulp.
Question of where energy comes from has already been addressed so
stop pushing like a mule.
As for "article scientifically sound to prove"...makes me wonder why are you
here. Apparently you try to disprove overunity (don't get hang on terminology
again, no one cares how you call it) in name of supposed "science".
Again, keep it clear, don't dodge with irrelevant mumbo jumbo.
I repeat, answer
- Are you denying it is possible to pump up kilowatts of reactive power
in a transformer with small input?
- Are you denying high reactive power can then be used to tap into
exotic energy forms?
Answer in direct, objective, scientific manner.
Quote from: nix85 on June 23, 2022, 07:30:29 PM
Question of where energy comes from has already been addressed
I asked clear question please provide clear answer:
– what is that extra energy coming from?
additional question:
– please describe energy conversion chain will respect to "LRC amplification,"
can you?
that of course according to physics is a fiction in some Russians imagination. you may also say I don't know it.
and by that the claim will be seen as pure fiction too._______________________________________________
Quote from: nix85 on June 23, 2022, 07:30:29 PM
As for "article scientifically sound to prove"...makes me wonder why are you
here. Apparently you try to disprove overunity .
1. In civilized Western World we answered questions first before an attempt to question back.
I'll address all of your questions after you answer my questions
В цивилизованном западном мире мы сначала ответили на вопросы, прежде чем попытаться допросить.
Я отвечу на все ваши вопросы после того, как вы ответите на мои вопросы2.to read entire article please click on quoted text link below.
Чтобы прочитать всю статью, нажмите на цитируемую текстовую ссылку.here:Quote from: stivep on March 31, 2021, 07:06:11 PM
Overunity - doesn't exist and will never exist and is laughable as a term.
Perpetual Motion- is not important to us if was ever in existence .. it is like spending 1 dollar to gain 1 dollar...
Free Energy - exist
But of course ,that energy must have its own origin too.and all of it is because of the LAW:
Energy can't be created nor destroyed.
Wesley
I love it how you just fell into your own trap, if you go back few pages in this
very thread where you first made the false claim that power amplification is
"impossible" in RLC tank after which i presented you the same evidence
that clearly shows you have no idea what you're saying, and asked you
essentially the same questions you never answered.
So, in accordance with civilized, western manners, instead of repeating like a
parrot question which has already been answered, answer the questions
you have been asked first and dodged since then.
- Are you denying it is possible to pump up kilowatts of reactive power
in a transformer with small input?
- Are you denying high reactive power can then be used to tap into
exotic energy forms?
Looking forward to your objective reply ;D
Quote from: stivep on June 23, 2022, 07:56:47 PM
1. In civilized Western World we answered questions first before an attempt to question back.
I'll address all of your questions after you answer my questions
В цивилизованном западном мире мы сначала ответили на вопросы, прежде чем попытаться допросить.
Я отвечу на все ваши вопросы после того, как вы ответите на мои вопросы
У цивілізованому західному світі ми відповіли спочатку на запитання, перш ніж спробувати запитати. Я вирішу всі ваші запитання після того ja odpowiem na twoje pytania kiedy odpowiesz na mojeI said in 4 languages:
I'll provide the answer to all of your questions after you answer my questions. one by one.
here:
https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg568293/#msg568293 (https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg568293/#msg568293)
Wesley
Dodging ain't gonna help you.
Answer the questions i been asking you ever since you made the
claim that power cannot be amplified in parallel RLC tank.
- Are you denying it is possible to pump up kilowatts of reactive power
in a transformer with small input?
- Are you denying high reactive power can then be used to tap into
exotic energy forms?
English will be enough. ;D
Nix
If your above reference is a claim of anomalous gain ( more out than in)?
Your in the right place !
Please share the experiment ( empirical evidence)
There are hundreds who wait to replicate!!
If your evidence is someone's you tube ?
Or hearsay ( they said it works etc etc)
We could spend decades just watching all such claims on YouTube ( nonsense claims)
Would be better to answer Wesley's simple questions
And move forward!
Or
Please share the OU ( free Energy) experiment for your readers
To replicate here ( the only way forward IMO
Respectfully
Chet K
Quote from: ramset on June 23, 2022, 09:54:36 PM
Nix
Would be better to answer Wesley's simple questions
And move forward!
https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg568293/#msg568293 (https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg568293/#msg568293)
Chet K
Quoting ramset also ain't gonna help you.
Answer the questions or simply admit you're wrong.
Quote from: stivep on June 23, 2022, 05:53:46 PM
so if I am not reliable than please prove me wrong
The statement is :try our best my friend, but keep in mind:
no matter what you say about RLC power amplification that is a complete nonsense.
You will also be ask to explain what that extra amplified power comes from?
what is that power origin?
the law of conservation of energy:
energy cannot be created nor destroyed.
Wesley
Resonant circuit do not amplify anything, it ACCUMULATES.
It is electromagnetic energy trap.
Tesla did explain it nicely.
Regarding current, in quarter wave resonator voltage additive multiplication takes place at the top terminal, current multiplication at the ground node.
Check out Corums work.
Cheers,
Pix
Quote from: pix on June 24, 2022, 04:34:11 AM
Resonant circuit do not amplify anything, it ACCUMULATES.
It is electromagnetic energy trap.
Tesla did explain it nicely.
Regarding current, in quarter wave resonator voltage additive multiplication takes place at the top terminal, current multiplication at the ground node.
Check out Corums work.
Cheers,
Pix
Correct.( it concentrates energy "flow" like an open gate)
Thank You.
Nix85 was spreading "heresy" - profoundly at odds with what is generally accepted by science.
Quote from: nix85 on June 23, 2022, 07:30:29 PM
Apparently you try to disprove overunity
Yes. overunity is never proven and rejected nonsense .
https://overunity.com/18815/has-anyone-here-constructed-an-overunity-system-that-works/msg556417/#msg556417 (https://overunity.com/18815/has-anyone-here-constructed-an-overunity-system-that-works/msg556417/#msg556417)Wesley
Quote from: stivep on June 24, 2022, 07:47:27 AM
Correct.( it concentrates energy "flow".)
Exactly! :)
Flow is a key word here.
Tesla described this as a big tank filled from the hose. Tank is equipped with a large dump valve in the bottom.
Once water level in the tank reaches a point where pressure overcomes spring force of dump valve- accumulated water in the tank is released with large flow.
Other examples:
Tesla described it also as charging capacitor from atmospheric voltage diference ( around 100V/m) and discharging capacitor through a spark gap once reached breakdown voltage.
All kinds of magnetic compression methods, explosive and non explosive- where a weak and non usefull practically magnetic field is compressed to a large pulse.
Ambient electromagnetic field power harvesters .
Hydro power- river flow is first accumulated in a large dams, and dumped through turbines to generate power.
Ect.
There is a lot of energy around us that Nature provides, low grade energy that we could convert to useable form by a properly converting it.
And resonant LC circuit is one of them.
Cheers,
Pix
Quote from: nix85 on June 23, 2022, 06:16:20 PM
Another old, unknown success video, this guy is apparently doubling the power
using three coils on same half core, two coils on the sides are in opposition, screams
scalar.
Subtitles - auto translate are your friend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df48bstPN14 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df48bstPN14)
Yep, pic also screams VIC and Floyd Sweet.
My hypothesis:
Scalar potential of V/m on a conductor/resistor/load, electrons are pumped through it because that's what a EMF scalar potential does, the partnered coils through mutual inductance prevent this current that is pumped through the load to be part of the circuit that generates the potential, no magnetic feedback to primary, no Lenz back-emf, so no increase of input current. aka asymmetrical regauging of the potential and 'don't destroy the dipole'.
Needs resonance to shake the electrons in the load because they're not being part of a closed current loop. Open system.
If an electret self-oscillated, could it drive a load???
What a pile of self-contradictions.
If stivep meant it can be "concentrated" not "amplified",
he would've said so but he never did.
And even if he did it would still be wrong.
This semantic question of amplify vs concentrate has already
been addressed when i wrote
"So it is definitely possible to amplify power, you may argue if that power
is usable."
Even if it wasn't usable (which it is) it would still be an amplification
inside the RLC.
And it clearly is usable. Part of the amplified power is taken namely
280W and system is self fed, as already shown.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYWgcRB73bw
And this is one of smaller examples.
Moreover pix in last part of the post admits self-contradictorily that
"There is a lot of energy around us that Nature provides, low grade energy
which could convert to useable form with resonant LC."
Of course, there is nothing low grade about these subtle energies, their power
is literally infinite. It is limited only by how much we can resist and dissipate.
So he admits resonant LC can be used to convert what he wrongly thinks is
"low grade" ambient energy, which is nothing else but power/energy amplification.
Something he just claimed resonant RLC cannot do literally in previous post.
Quote from: nix85 on June 24, 2022, 10:57:17 AM
What a pile of self-contradictions.
Moreover pix in last part of the post admits self-contradictorily that
"There is a lot of energy around us that Nature provides, low grade energy
which could convert to useable form with resonant LC."
Of course, there is nothing low grade about these subtle energies, their power
is literally infinite. It is limited only by how much we can resist and dissipate.
So he admits resonant LC can be used to "convert" what he wrongly thinks is
"low grade" ambient energy, which is nothing else but power/energy amplification.
Something he just claimed resonant RLC cannot do literally in previous post.
Please understand "low grade" like in therodynamics , heat pump analogy. We convert large amounts of 10 degC ambient air into smaller amount of 50 degC air suitable for heating your home or water.
10degC air isn't very usefull for heating your house, isn't it?
By the aid of compressor and properties of refrigerant we can compress that "low grade" ambient energy into useable form.
Same thing will happen with ambient electromagnetic energy of space surrounding us.
We can tap into that energy radiation, that is "low grade", maybe volts, milivolts or microvolts in amplitude. Maybe watts or miliwatts per second.
Milivolts and miliwatts aren't very usefull for practical purposes, to power something in your home, isn't it? That's why I call this "low grade".
With resonant LC tank we could tap into that electromagnetic spectrum and convert miliwatts into Watts or more.
Something with miliwatts but at high frequency (kHZ or MHz) could be converted into Watts at Hz frequency.
Proper LC resonant circuit would do this. It acts as accumulator, "we fill with a hose a big tank equipped a large dump valve at the bottom".
Cheers,
Pix
example from classical mechanics:
actually it is like that:
you can feel 10 kg push of your left-hand finger to the palm of your right hand.
But if you concentrate that 10 kg force on the needle pushing the palm of your right hand,
then this needle will come out from the other side of that hand.
example from quantum physics:
if you concentrate 10 W of power on the laser beam you can burn a hole in paper sheet up to 10 m
but that depends from the frequency.
The LRC circuit in resonance can become the very narrow bandwidth (filter) , and that all 10 W energy can flow through it.
that bandwidth is the bandwidth of our open gate in resonance.
I will explain more in the next post.
if you can concentrate microwatts per square foot in area of Texas and release it through a very narrow filter
you might have pinpoint directed EMP.
Dr. Corum introduced Earth/air interface there is a the waveguide for an electromagnetic wave impacting it at complex Brewster angle.
Need to understand that all lightnings eventually strikes the earth.
So if we have 1.4 billion flashes per year and some of that energy randomly strikes at complex Brewster angle, then we have
electromagnetic energy collectively at this waveguide known as interface.so all you need is to to tune your LRC circuit take this energy out at complex Brewster angle, using preferably Tesla coil .
-inverse square law doesn't apply to waveguides. losses in he interface below 20kHz are really small. and that is the entire secret of Tariel Kapanadze
Wesley
you can amplify energy not only power, the key is in Steven Mark comments
of course you need:
1. Energy source beside power input
2. Sound scientific theory
it was described many times in varoius threads here just connect dots
energy amplification needs resonant condition but it's resonance with medium and resonance with steps required not just electrical resonance
just tap energy of thunderbolts
Quote from: forest on June 24, 2022, 12:07:35 PM
you can amplify energy not only power, the key is in Steven Mark comments
of course you need:
1. Energy source beside power input
2. Sound scientific theory
it was described many times in varoius threads here just connect dots
energy amplification needs resonant condition but it's resonance with medium and resonance with steps required not just electrical resonance
just tap energy of thunderbolts
you're absolutely right.
Power stands for level.Energy is that what would be amplified,
but we where talking about special case of LRC circuit that can't amplify no energy nor its power level.
https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/239852/rlc-filter-as-amplifier (https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/239852/rlc-filter-as-amplifier)
Wesley
Quote from: pix on June 24, 2022, 11:17:46 AM
Please understand "low grade" like in therodynamics , heat pump analogy. We convert large amounts of 10 degC ambient air into smaller amount of 50 degC air suitable for heating your home or water.
10degC air isn't very usefull for heating your house, isn't it?
By the aid of compressor and properties of refrigerant we can compress that "low grade" ambient energy into useable form.
Same thing will happen with ambient electromagnetic energy of space surrounding us.
We can tap into that energy radiation, that is "low grade", maybe volts, milivolts or microvolts in amplitude. Maybe watts or miliwatts per second.
Milivolts and miliwatts aren't very usefull for practical purposes, to power something in your home, isn't it? That's why I call this "low grade".
With resonant LC tank we could tap into that electromagnetic spectrum and convert miliwatts into Watts or more.
Something with miliwatts but at high frequency (kHZ or MHz) could be converted into Watts at Hz frequency.
Proper LC resonant circuit would do this. It acts as accumulator, "we fill with a hose a big tank equipped a large dump valve at the bottom".
Cheers,
Pix
Nice try, but not so fast. You proceed from presumption that ambient energy
is at low level (10° C analogy). And what made you think it is so.
There are so many streams of subtle energies passing through us in all directions,
nothing about them is "low grade", it's just that we are usually transparent to most
of them.
Take gravity, this one we feel strongly. It is literally an inward rush of energy from
space toward the center of the planet. Take a small piece of lead for example, this
piece of lead has no magnetic field that extends into space to "scoop" supposed
low grade energy, all it has is it's own volume and it ain't big, yet how long can
you keep it in your palm before your arm muscles tire. The density of this energy
is enormous and if instead of piece of lead you had a chunk of neutron star in
your hand you would know it well since it would pass through your hand as
easily as if it were not there, it's weight would be on scale of mountains or
more, yet it's size is tiny, all it's weight can only come from the it's volume
in which it screens the gravitational inflow. And if you put one object above
the other does the bottom one feel less gravity, obviously not, so this
energy is (usually) unscreenable and limitless in it's density and potential.
So, with just a simple example of gravity we have shown energy density of these streams is beyond comprehension.
And there are many other streams similar to gravity, of non-herzian spectrum, we
usually don't feel at all. One of them is antigravity superimposed over gravity
flowing in opposite direction and at higher frequency, it's E density is even higher.
NOTHING about these streams is low level. They may only appear so to one who
does not resist them or resists them only in a small degree.
Analogy of a river may suffice better. Quote from Etidorhpa
"If a series of knife blades on pivot ends be set in a frame, and turned edgewise to a rapid current of water, the swiftly moving stream flows through this sieve of metallic edges about as easily as if there were no obstructions. Slowly turn the blades so as to present their oblique sides to the current, and an immediate pressure is apparent upon the frame that holds them; turn the blades so as to shut up the space, and they will be torn from their sockets, or the entire frame will be shattered into pieces."
Quote from: alan on June 24, 2022, 10:46:49 AM
Yep, pic also screams VIC and Floyd Sweet.
My hypothesis:
Scalar potential of V/m on a conductor/resistor/load, electrons are pumped through it because that's what a EMF scalar potential does, the partnered coils through mutual inductance prevent this current that is pumped through the load to be part of the circuit that generates the potential, no magnetic feedback to primary, no Lenz back-emf, so no increase of input current. aka asymmetrical regauging of the potential and 'don't destroy the dipole'.
Needs resonance to shake the electrons in the load because they're not being part of a closed current loop. Open system.
If an electret self-oscillated, could it drive a load???
Yes, definitely reminds of Sweet's device which is essentially a copy paste of
Daniel Cook's device patented in 1871.
Any time we got fields in confrontation or complete annihilation aka
neutralization of herzian waves, we give rise to scalar component.
This is the basic rule, call it bucking coils if you like or any other
name. This is nature's principle neutralize the secondary energies
and you will get subtler ones, like collision of two gamma rays
produces electrons and positrons...
How do we relate the electron flow with this scalar component
associated with the A field aka Vector Potential, this article gives
a nice perspective on it, depicting magnetic field as axis of a toroid
etheric "smoke ring" around an moving electron.
http://creatorguy.com/files/Ortho1.pdf
Quote from: forest on June 24, 2022, 12:07:35 PM
you can amplify energy not only power, the key is in Steven Mark comments
of course you need:
1. Energy source beside power input
2. Sound scientific theory
it was described many times in varoius threads here just connect dots
energy amplification needs resonant condition but it's resonance with medium and resonance with steps required not just electrical resonance
just tap energy of thunderbolts
Indeed it is possible to amplify power and energy as already shown.
All kind of resonance are in-play, LC, ferro, acoustic.. or combination of.
It all comes down to RESISTANCE, that is, resisting the subtler energy forms and
slowing them down into electricity (be it hot or cold).
ATREE did it most elegantly with no electricity whatsoever, by two parallel paths of
different resistance, but no one has been able to replicate it sadly.
So we use resonance in many forms.
People cannot accept what they have not yet personally observed so we
get silly comments like tap the low grade ambient EM sources or thunderbolts..
Instead they should realize we are immersed in streams of infinite potential and
gravity we feel so strongly is one of them.
May i remind that Floyd Sweet's device lost all it's weight when fully loaded and
larger Steven Mark's TPU units lost part of the weight when in operation.
TPU weight loss was disclosed here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_fRKxz_UNo
@Stivep
Thanks for explanation about Corums and tapping into Schumann resonance .
Another thing.
In Stepanov resonant transformer what we see is a large 3 phase inductance, a lot of capacitors and a DIODES .
It is still make me thinking what would be a reason for that diodes.
I assume they are on the output.
I am considering two possibilities.
1. It is a flyback setup.
2. If not flyback, what would be a reason to put half wave rectifier on the output of resonant circuit?
What is your opinion?
Regards,
Pix
I love it how stivep is changing his story in accordance with other people's posts.
He is now admitting fully resonant RLC can amplify power and energy, what a mockery.
Of course, he again falsely talks about herzian waves as if that is the source to tap into.
Herzian waves are exactly what is to be avoided, the undesired secondary waste.
Tesla himself said "i am not working with Herz's waves", he was all about what he called
standing waves. There are many lectures on it but sadly none of you speak serbian.
Quote from: nix85 on June 24, 2022, 12:38:32 PM
copy past of
Daniel Cook's device patented in 1871.
Any time we got fields in confrontation or complete annihilation aka
neutralization of herzian waves,
http://creatorguy.com/files/Ortho1.pdf
(http://creatorguy.com/files/Ortho1.pdf)
once again you are spreading complete nonsense while dancing around, the dead body of "aether"
And of course you not going to answer the question :
how are you going to
neutralize and
annihilate
-herzian waves,?
do you know the method?
what "fields in confrontation" you are talking about?
___________________________________________________
quote from the link you posted:
http://creatorguy.com/files/Ortho1.pdf (http://creatorguy.com/files/Ortho1.pdf)
QuoteAn electric charge has been defined as a "stress on the "aether", a "violent spray of virtual
particle flux", etc.
"aether" - doesn't exist and no science nor scientists will ever agree with you and the article.
you cannot find one single scientific paper recognized by science talking about this nonsense.
Question:
how can you define electric charge based on non-existing aether.
I assume you know Russian language,
and I'm wondering what makes you,or who pushes you
to spread all of that nonsense?
Wesley
Quote from: stivep on June 24, 2022, 01:36:18 PM
once again you are spreading complete nonsense while dancing around, the dead body of "aether"
And of course you not going to answer the question : how are you going to neutralize and annihilate
-herzian waves,?
do you know the method?
what fields in confrontation you are talking about?
___________________________________________________
quote from the link you posted:
http://creatorguy.com/files/Ortho1.pdf (http://creatorguy.com/files/Ortho1.pdf)
"aether" - doesn't exist and no science nor scientists will ever agree with you and the article.
you cannot find one single scientific paper recognize by science talking about is nonsense.
Question:
how can you define electric charge based on non-existing [/font]aether.
I assume you know Russian language, and I'm wondering what makes you
to spread all of that nonsense?
[/font][/font]Wesley
HA, this clown is spewing utter drivel constantly and now he even
DENIES ETHER.
My my, what a joke. To deny ether, to deny what Tesla himself
and all great ones knew to be true.
"You are wrong, Mr. Einstein, the ether exists!" - Nikola Tesla
And he tries to muddy the water about simple principle of bucking coils aka
non-inductive coils well known thing in this community used for neutralization
of herzain waves very closely related to caduceus coils, in fact, any time
you got two same EM sources nearby you will get what Bearden called scalar
interferometry, this is exactly what Tesla described in his patent US723188A
- Method of signaling where he talks about waves that do not diminish with
distance and are insensitive to any interference. Also known as phase conjugation..
https://patents.google.com/patent/US723188A/en
Question:
how can you define electric charge based on non-existing aether.?
answer the question.
Quote from: nix85 on June 24, 2022, 01:48:58 PM
HA, this clown is spewing utter drivel constantly and now he even
DENIES ETHER.
You started to be offensive.
calling me "with names"
for those unfamiliar with some Russian forms of propaganda:
Pres. of Ukraine Zelinski - attacked by Russia four months ago is called by them
"clown"___________________________________
I assume from your posting you know Russian language very well.
and I'm wondering what makes you,or who pushes you
to spread all of that nonsense?
what is the reason or goal of posting it here?
Is it that some Idea of some Russians to make this forum look like some Russian toilet?
https://youtu.be/7kySzXIWf-4?t=27
(https://youtu.be/7kySzXIWf-4?t=27)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcNS4B58HsM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcNS4B58HsM),
Nothing offensive about calling you a clown, that is exactly what you are.
Changing your story with every post, muddying the water with nonsense,
denying non-herzian waves of which gravity is but one "color",
denying ether....
Is there an end to your circus.
Quote from: nix85 on June 24, 2022, 02:01:54 PM
Nothing offensive about calling you a clown, that is exactly what you are.
Changing your story with every post, muddying the water with nonsense,
denying non-herzian waves of which gravity is but one "color",
denying ether....
Is there an end to your circus.
my dear perfect...
In Russian language friend.
User: "color" and many others before you, left this forum,not so voluntarily.
I admit I was voting for it.
Gentlemen Western form of communication on the public form is based on respect.
That respect is manifested by responding to the questions and value of information posted.
Information posted by you
is absolutely rejected by science and may be qualified as
targeted disinformation,that is also used by some of dictatorships of former Eastern Europe .
we are here to help each other to understand more
I'm gently asking you again to change your attitude.
Thank you very much for your cooperation
Wesley
Quote from: stivep on June 24, 2022, 02:24:20 PM
my dear perfect... In Russian language friend.
User: "color" and many others before you, left this forum,not so voluntarily.
I admit I was voting for it.
Gentlemen Western form of communication on the public form is based on respect.
That respect is manifested by responding to the questions and value of information posted.
Information posted by you is absolutely rejected by science and may be qualified as targeted disinformation,
that is also used by some of dictatorships of former Eastern Europe .
we are here to help each other to understand more
I'm gently asking you again to change your attitude.
Thank you very much for your cooperation
Wesley
My dear perfect in Mandarin friend... your threats are like kitty hiss.
If anyone should be kicked it's you, mr. there is no ether disinfo agent.
You act like typical disinfo agent, a payed shill, who's primary goal is to muddy
the waters, to distract from simple truths with utter bs.
On one hand you apparently and sleazily "agree" there is such thing as
resonant energy gain, but even there you try to stir the water toward the
conventional herzian waves which Tesla himself saw as nothing but
undesirable waste byproduct, an inferior order of energy.
You claim info i present is rejected by "science". Which "science", the same
"science" that claims everything we talk about on this forum is heresy (and
you actually used that word few posts ago) and "impossible".
It's clowns like you that keep us in the dark age. You are the very opposite
of SCIENCE. True science is based on the principle of universal ether and
etheric streams Rota called Universal Currents.... You can deceive the
weak minded here, but some of us see clearly what you are, the same
dark power of "targeted disinformation used by some of dictatorships"
you tried to accuse me for.
And your false act of "civil" manners is weakly concealed deception.
It is you who does not answer the questions asked and cares not for
value of information posted, from the first moment you denied the
power and energy amplification in parallel RLC to denial of ether.
Even people here whom you can still deceive by dragging them
down into herzian prison, will sooner or later realize Tesla and others have
been telling the truth, and truth is, again, we are immersed in the ocean of
non-herzian etheric streams of infinite potential.
Please calm down people.
@Stivep
Please see my previoust post. You have meet Stepanov, did you see his setup?
What would be purpose of diodes in Stepanov resonant transformer?
Regards,
Pix
Nix85
You make a good argument and the space/time cult needs to end.
In his later years Einstein said his theories are unworkable without an Aether. It amounts to the translation of energy through a space with no means to carry said energy. How can they define space as empty then say all energy must be traveling through that same space as we speak?. It's beyond contradictory and verges on gross incompetence in my opinion.
In effect all energy relates to the motion of something on some level. As such, if there is nothing in a space to move it can have no energy nor carry it. This is why space/time will always be fairies and unicorns. Only an Aether or dark energy/matter is a valid theory in my opinion.
Regards
AC
@onepower It's really about time to end that cult.
In 1920 Einstein admitted there is ether in a sense
that time-space has physical qualities.
https://youtu.be/hEND8dlUp1Y?t=722
But i don't think he ever admitted it in sense of actual
substance, and it was his greatest mistake.
Indeed it is absurd to define space as empty then say all energy must be
traveling through that same "empty" space.
Altho now they came up with ideas like virtual photons it still does not cut it.
They'll invent anything just not to admit there is actual substance filling all space.
And from this finest of all substances, this MATERIA PRIMA, all forms of energy
and matter arise by condensation.
In most fundamental sense this materia prima is really not matter, it is HOLES
in the densest medium of all, time-space itself, which is a matrix made purely
out of vibrations, infinite in frequency and amplitude.
So, proceeding from the Source, we can say there is first vibration, vibration of
what, well, of SPIRIT if you like, cause this is a spiritual reality. Spirit creates
vibration first and by giving it structure by partial quenching of these
infinite vibrations, interference along 6 AXIS OF TIME it creates the matrix
of infinite time-space.
Then, in this infinite void, by "digging holes" in it, that is, by creating standing
waves in it, Spirit creates little bubbles, THIS is ether. And from these tiny
bubbles of nothing, everything is ultimately built. So ether is not matter in
a sense of being ultimate particles uncapable of further subdivision, it is
rather arbitrary order of smallest of all standing waves in the medium
composed exclusively out of vibration/sound.
Quote from: nix85 on June 24, 2022, 03:23:26 PM
It's clowns like you that keep us in the dark age.
//True science is based on the principle of universal ether and
etheric streams
// denial// (of) energy amplification in parallel RLC to denial of ether.
yes I deny all of that nonsense.
And apart from, beating the bushes you can't in any possible way provide any,
scientifically approved literature supporting that all nonsense of yours.
I see it as
targeted disinformation, lowering standards of this forum.
Wesley
There is no ether according to the old concept, but today they know there is something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uYoViFtJ04 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uYoViFtJ04)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnsrDFSjcZ0
Quote from: stivep on June 24, 2022, 07:57:58 PM
yes I deny all of that nonsense.
And apart from, beating the bushes you can't in any possible way provide any,
scientifically approved literature supporting that all nonsense of yours.
I see it as targeted disinformation, lowering standards of this forum.
Wesley
It's exactly you beating the bushes and muddying the waters with nonsense,
it is exactly you spreading targeted disinformation and lowering standards of
this forum.
"you can't provide any scientifically approved literature supporting..."
Are you kidding or what. This is exactly what a shill would say.
As if birds in the trees don't already know this subject has been
systematically removed from "scientifically approved literature"
for 100+ years and that any attempt to bring it into mainstream
would mean instant expulsion from all scientific/academic
institution, loss of job and possibly if not likely life threats
or even death.
And to make the irony greater he's got tons of all these mostly
Russian Don-like replications on his channel which he promoted
for years. Now supposedly he thinks they're all fake or does he,
few posts ago he admitted Kapandaze devices work, so what is it
with this jokester, is he here really just to muddy the waters as
much as possible and make a joke out of it all.
Nix85
QuoteThey'll invent anything just not to admit there is actual substance filling all space.
And from this finest of all substances, this MATERIA PRIMA, all forms of energy
and matter arise by condensation.
Indeed, at the beginning of civilization everything was made from something and women and nature were worshiped as the true creators. Then a bunch of self indulgent goat herders decided that man should be worshiped and created many false gods in there image. This was the start of the transition from nature/substance to false gods meant to control the population for profit.
As such most of the present beliefs still do not allow for an Aether or materia prima. This would contradict the narrative that all was created from nothing. It would imply all that is present didn't need to be created and was always present following natural laws. As absurd as it may seem in this day and age most who follow nature and natural law are still considered heretics. There is no profit in conserving nature and many men worship profit and themselves.
So far as I can gather the Aether may be a plasma, the fourth state of matter, pervading all space. Following the logic that if everything (space and matter) are made of the same stuff then it would be near impossible to detect. Like a man made of water in an ocean of water with a meter made of water trying to detect the presence of water. The meter would not be able to detect anything because all is water.
This would explain why nobody has a clue what the Primary Fields (Electric, Magnetic, Gravic) are or where to start. There chasing smoke and mirrors because the primary fields are not something only a condition of something. This is why Einstein finally admitted an Aether is required or nothing works.
Regards
AC
@onepower Yes, in the past women were leaders and science and religion
were united and science which was FAR ahead of modern was harmonized
with nature and based on principle of One Force and One Substance.
This was known to Atlantis and other civilizations prior, as well as that
force/substance always moves in circles closing on itself.
Looking from perspective inside of time-space, there is no point when
time-space and prime matter were created, past and future like space
are infinite. But reality being spiritual from deepest perspective both
time and space are unreal. All is being created and experienced
simultaneously, it is strange and hard to describe cause linear time
can only exist when consciousness becomes individualized and narrowed
like a laser beam scanning pictures in it's own mind. But pictures move
not, only the laser beam moves. So time itself is unreal, and consequently
space which is literally a child of time, created by 6 axis of time. You can
have time without space, but you cannot have space without time, let's
put it like that.
As for 4 great forces, namely, static electric, static magnetic, electromagnetic
and resonating electromagnetic (gravity), they all stem from the One Force
which is neither and is all permeating all space. In all secondary forces
One Force is trapped and can be liberated, we may call it "pure energy",
but there is no such thing as "energy" there is only FORCE and
MATTER. Spirals within spirals, spheres within spheres.
The nature of these Universal Currents is nicely summarized in this chapter
of ETIDORHPA. Many if not most may scoff at quoting supposed fiction not
realizing great occult scientific truths have been given to mankind in this one
disguised, protected in that way until man is ready to see it for what it is.
In the following chapter, among other things, you will read about an artificial
gravity field produced by a spray of metal around the boat, a NON-INERTIAL
field extending to certain distance beyond the boat, that is, a gravity field
like that of a planet or a flying saucer. Keep in mind this is a 19th century book.
CHAPTER XXVI.
MOTION FROM INHERENT ENERGY.—"LEAD ME DEEPER INTO THIS EXPANDING STUDY."
"I partly comprehend that such would be the case," I said.
"If a series of knife blades on pivot ends be set in a frame, and turned edgewise to a rapid current of water, the swiftly moving stream flows through this sieve of metallic edges about as easily as if there were no obstructions. Slowly turn the blades so as to present their oblique sides to the current, and an immediate pressure is apparent upon the frame that holds them; turn the blades so as to shut up the space, and they will be torn from their sockets, or the entire frame will be shattered into pieces."
"I understand; go on."
"The ethereal current that generates the magnetic force passes through material bodies with inconceivable rapidity, and the molecules of a few substances only, present to it the least obstruction. Material molecules are edgewise in it, and meet no retardation in the subtle flood. This force is a disturbance of space energy that is rushing into the earth in one form, and out of it in another. But your mind is not yet in a condition to grasp the subject, for at best there is no method of explaining to men that which their experimental education has failed to prepare them to receive, and for which first absolutely new ideas, and next words with new meaning, must be formed. Now we, (by we I mean those with whom I am connected) have learned to disturb the molecules in matter so as to turn them partly, or entirely, across the path of this magnetic current, and thus interrupt the motion of this ever-present energy. We can retard its velocity without, however, producing either magnetism (as is the case in a bar of steel), electricity, or heat, but motion instead, and thus a portion of this retarded energy springs into its new existence as motion of my boat. It is force changed
into movement of matter, for the molecules of the boat, as a mass, must move onward as the force disappears as a current. Perhaps you can accept now that instead of light, heat, electricity, magnetism, and gravitation being really modifications of force they are disturbances."
"Disturbances of what?"
"Disturbances of motion."
"Motion of what?"
"Motion of itself, pure and simple."
"I can not comprehend, I can not conceive of motion pure and simple."
"I will explain at a future time so that you can comprehend more clearly. Other lessons must come first, but never will you see the end. Truth is infinite."
Continuing, he said:
"Let me ask if there is anything marvelous in this statement. On the earth's surface men arrest the fitful wind; and by so doing divert the energy of its motion into movement of machinery; they induce it to turn mills and propel vessels. This motion of air is a disturbance, mass motion transmitted to the air by heat, heat in turn being a disturbance or interruption of pure motion. When men learn to interrupt this unperceived stream of energy so as to change directly into material motion the spirit that saturates tire universe, and that produces force expressions, as it is constantly rushing from earth into space, and from space back again, they will have at command wherever they may be an endless source of power, light, and heat; mass motion, light and heat being convertible. Motion lies behind heat, light, and electricity, and produces them, and so long as the earth revolves on its axis, and circles in its orbit, man needs no light and heat from such indirect sources as combustion. Men will, however, yet obtain motion of molecules (heat), and material mass motion as well, from earth motion, without the other dangerous intermediate force expressions now deemed necessary in their production."
"Do you wish me to understand that on all parts of the earth's surface there is a continual expenditure of energy, an ever-ready current, that is really distinct from the light and heat of the sun, and also that the imponderable bodies that we
call heat, light, electricity, and magnetism are not substances at all?"
"Yes," he replied.
"And that this imperceptible something—fluid I will say, for want of a better term—now invisible and unknown to man, is as a medium in which the earth, submerged, floats as a speck of dust in a flood of space?"
"Certainly," he replied.
"Am I to infer from your remarks that, in the course of time, man will be able to economize this force, and adapt it to his wants?"
"Yes."
"Go on with your exposition, I again beg of you; lead me deeper into this expanding study."
"There is but little more that you can comprehend now, as I have said," he answered. "All materials known to man are of coarse texture, and the minds of men are not yet in a condition to comprehend finer exhibitions of force, or of motion modifications. Pure energy, in all its modifications, is absolutely unknown to man. What men call heat, gravitation, light, electricity, and magnetism are the grosser attributes attending alterations in an unknown, attenuated, highly developed force producer. They are results, not causes. The real force, an unreached energy, is now flooding all space, pervading all materials. Everywhere there exists an infinite sea of motion absolute. Since this primeval entity can not now affect matter, as matter is known to man, man's sense can only be influenced by secondary attributes of this energy. Unconscious of its all-pervading presence, however, man is working towards the power that will some day, upon the development of latent senses, open to him this new world. Then at last he will move without muscular exertion, or the use of heat as an agent of motion, and will, as I am now doing, bridle the motion of space. Wherever he may be situated, there will then be warmth to any degree that he wishes, for he will be able to temper the seasons, and mass motion illimitable, also, for this energy, I reiterate, is omnipresent. However, as you will know more of this before long, we will pass the subject for the present."
My guide slowly moved the lever. I sat in deep reflection, beginning to comprehend somewhat of his reasoning, and yet my mind was more than clouded. The several ambiguous repetitions he had made since our journey commenced, each time suggesting the same idea, clothing it in different forms of expression, impressed me vaguely with the conception of a certain something for which I was gradually being prepared, and that I might eventually be educated to grasp, but which he believed my mind was not yet ready to receive. I gathered from what he said that he could have given clearer explanations than he was now doing, and that he clothed his language intentionally in mysticism, and that, for some reason, he preferred to leave my mind in a condition of uncertainty. The velocity of the boat increased as he again and again cautiously touched the lever, and at last the responsive craft rose nearly out of the water, and skimmed like a bird over its surface. There was no object in that lake of pure crystal to govern me in calculating as to the rapidity of our motion, and I studied to evolve a method by which I could time our movements. With this object in view I tore a scrap from my clothing and tossed it into the air. It fell at my feet as if in a calm. There was no breeze. I picked the fragment up, in bewilderment, for I had expected it to fall behind us. Then it occurred to me, as by a flash, that notwithstanding our apparently rapid motion, there was an entire absence of atmospheric resistance. What could explain the paradox? I turned to my guide and again tossed the fragment of cloth upward, and again it settled at my feet. He smiled, and answered my silent inquiry.
"There is a protecting sheet before us, radiating, fan-like, from the bow of our boat as if a large pane of glass were resting on edge, thus shedding the force of the wind. This diaphragm catches the attenuated atmosphere and protects us from its friction."
"But I see no such protecting object," I answered.
"No; it is invisible. You can not see the obstructing power, for it is really a gyrating section of force, and is colorless. That spray of metal on the brow of our boat is the developer of this protecting medium. Imagine a transverse section of an eddy of water on edge before us, and you can form a comparison. Throw the bit of garment as far as you can beyond the side of the boat."
I did so, and saw it flutter slowly away to a considerable distance parallel with our position in the boat as though in a perfect calm, and then it disappeared. It seemed to have been dissolved. I gazed at my guide in amazement.
"Try again," said he.
"THE BIT OF GARMENT FLUTTERED LISTLESSLY AWAY TO THE SAME DISTANCE, AND THEN—VACANCY."
I tore another and a larger fragment from my coat sleeve. I fixed my eyes closely upon it, and cast it from me. The bit of garment fluttered listlessly away to the same distance, and then—vacancy. Wonders of wonderland, mysteries of the mysterious! What would be the end of this marvelous journey? Suspicion again possessed me, and distrust arose. Could not my self-existence be blotted out in like manner? I thought again of my New York home, and the recollection of upper earth, and those broken family ties brought to my heart a flood of bitter emotions. I inwardly cursed the writer of that alchemistic letter, and cursed myself for heeding the contents.
[paragraph continues]The tears gushed from my eyes and trickled through my fingers as I covered my face with my hands and groaned aloud. Then, with a gentle touch, my guide's hand rested on my shoulder.
"Calm yourself," he said; "this phenomenon is a natural sequence to a deeper study of nature than man has reached. It is simply the result of an exhibition of rapid motion. You are upon a great underground lake, that, on a shelf of earth substance one hundred and fifty miles below the earth's surface, covers an area of many thousand square miles, and which has an average depth of five miles. We are now crossing it diagonally at a rapid rate by the aid of the force that man will yet use in a perfectly natural manner on the rough upper ocean and bleak lands of the earth's coarse surface. The fragments of cloth disappeared from sight when thrown beyond the influence of our protecting diaphragm, because when they struck the outer motionless atmosphere they were instantly left behind; the eye could not catch their sudden change in motion. A period of time is necessary to convey from eye to mind the sensation of sight. The bullet shot from a gun is invisible by reason of the fact that the eye can not discern the momentary interruption to the light. A cannon ball will compass the field of vision of the eye, moving across it without making itself known, and yet the fact does not excite surprise. We are traveling so fast that small, stationary objects outside our track are invisible."
Then in a kind, pathetic tone of voice, he said:
"An important lesson you should learn, I have mentioned it before. Whatever seems to be mysterious, or marvelous, is only so because of the lack of knowledge of associated natural phenomena and connected conditions. All that you have experienced, all that you have yet to meet in your future journey, is as I have endeavored to teach you, in exact accordance with the laws that govern the universe, of which the earth constitutes so small a portion that, were the conditions favorable, it could be blotted from its present existence as quickly as that bit of garment disappeared, and with as little disturbance of the mechanism of the moving universe."
I leaned over, resting my face upon my elbow; my thoughts were immethodically wandering in the midst of multiplying perplexities; I closed my eyes as a weary child, and slept.
OMG! :o
Guys, once you will stop fighting please consider my question.
Why in Stepanov transformers there are diodes.
Cheers,
Pix
My version is that this is a stabilized powerful power source.
Using the so-called parametric transformer. Diodes are needed for the
feedback circuit probably.Magnetic amplifiers are controlled by direct current.
True, their power for these purposes is redundant.I know it's 160 or 200 amps. I have these.
In that case, I don't know for what...
Quote from: pix on June 25, 2022, 05:59:59 AM
Why in Stepanov transformers there are diodes.
Cheers,
Pix
in 2011 I met with Tariel Kapanadze, in Tbilisi Georgia, Europe.
in 2011 two months later I went to Lithuania-=
Lithuanian experiment.in 2012, Stefanov started to look for the contact with me.
a whole story started,
in result , he sent me a private video with his device and provided some information.
he asked me to go to Hamburg.
I assumed, he wants to use me as a leverage to negotiate better deal,
as German investor Arthur wouldn't like to lose the opportunity.
______________________________
I assumed, there was never any increasing of power level at the device.
But it was clever device changing the frequency and width of an impulse
using diodesto fool market ready noncommercial European tools measuring: power, frequency, power factor.
Most of them works only to 400 Hz, and beyond that shows false reading.
We may say that Stefanov believed that his device works, but from the other hand,
Stefanov
said no to my question, to provide oscilloscope, spectrum analyzer, screenshots and videos.
In 2013 I was approached by a Japanese, who visited me a few times.
money was at no limit if results are on the table.
but I don't do deals, I don't sell and I don't buy.!! however I can help.Thanks to me Tariel Kapanadze was given an opportunity to gain 100 millions.
For that, he was to go to Japan and present his device in front of team of scientists.
I was the one who was to be a translator in front of the team from Russian into English.
Constantly drunk Tariel Kapanadze, wasted two trips, and didn't respond at given time.
they don't understand that if you late for the train the train is going to go without you
nobody cares. Tiger, said that because he saw ......because he saw and examined Akula's,
he knows how to do it. But from the other hand, Tiger was paid by Stefanov
to evaluate Akula's device.
Japanese team decided that reward can be transferred to Tiger if he performs as expected.
That never happened, and Tiger lost his opportunity too.
By the way I am in constant contact with Tiger, who became very anti-American and anti-EU.
-that affected our relation too.
The only gain of Tiger was $1000 given to him for parts, before he failed to cooperate.
I never saw the schematic of the device, nor the device.
__________________________________________
Stefanov, Akula, Tiger, Arthur- the German investor story. Arthur, was not convinced too.
He he said that Akula's device doesn't need any power supply at all
and it was major difference between Stefanov device and Akula's device.
Arthur knew that I'm dealing with Tariel Kapanadze,
so that option was as unavailable to him.
Stefanov, in fear of losing Arthur's money approached Akula,
but because his brain wasn't able to analyze Akula's /Tariel Kapanadze
concept he hired Tiger (Vitali) from Kazakhstan.
Both of them went to Akula.
-you need to understand that everything in that region is corruption in its pure form.
nobody can trust nobody, $100 is a big money.
They operated than with early Soviet era oscilloscopes from 1970s
spectrum analyzer, was kind of unknown to them, and Vector network analyzer was unknown at all.Tiger approved Akula's device as legit.
around little more than one year later all of them returned home.
No positive effect from that activity to the investor.
however Arthur is not so much Arthur...
He is very much respected person, but it I'm not in the position to explain it to you yet
___________________________________________________
few words about Riga Latvia and Ruslan deviceSR was first copy of Tariel Kapanadze device.
-he was killed, by some Russians before his trip to Canada .
– Akula was the second one .
He's device was quite convincing , especially after Tiger's evaluation at the request of Stefanov
following request of Arthur the German investor.
-few months after Akula's presentation, chocolate company from Riga Latvia
(the same one who hired previously Tariel Kapanadze to make the device for them)
ask Akula to present his device, and Akula went to Riga Latvia.
They were also involved in unsuccessful attempt to wipe me up from the surface of the earth together with Tariel Kapanadze in 2011. Prior to a Akula's trip, I warned him, who these guys are.
The company was at that time owned by Russian former singer, and her men, Russian government official.
Ironically, Riga Latvia is also a place where Ruslan house is at.
but it looks like both of the gentlemen were trying to avoid each other.
Akula traveled from Kazakhstan to Riga and his device refused to work in Riga.
That's why when he spoke with me asking me for advice, I came to the conclusion
that it was "Geo positioning" that could be blamed for it.
In other words, the device working in certain parts of the world, didn't work in the others,
without re-tuning.
for me it was very much interesting, as I was studying at that time,
telluric current, and
raising star Dr
James Corum, earth/air interface.- waveguide
________________________________________________________my trip to South America:
so
Stefanov, lost, presenting German investor only one diode LED "flashing" device,
Tariel Kapanadze lost due to his alcoholism.
Tiger lost due to lack of performance.
Ruslan lost, promising me and others, live presentation of his device- never happened.
Akula, finally disappeared, (unconfirmed information that he is likely dead)
but in my head, it was unclear why Akula's device the didn't work in Riga Latvia and in Germany.
Was it due to the telluric current, or this had something to do with energy from
(Dr. James Corum) , namely the interface.
So yes I had everything around me, monkey, the crawling creatures, snakes, and all that exotic
hot, climate near Panama.
One thing that we didn't have around was Russians.We set, measurement for telluric current, and it was tested for approximately two years.
Another set of measurement was performance of electromagnetic wave, trapped in earth air waveguide/interface.
None of us was skilled enough at that time to properly interpret the results.Although the site was given to us for free by one of American businessmen,
the cause of that scientific investigation was rising up .
We came back with almost empty hands.
I had two skeptics Dr. Roy and Dr. Hans.
One of them is holding his skepticism though today.
But Dr. Hans was especially brutal, with his critics to me.
He as a close friend, at one point was approached with an offer.
my offer:Take the device, (that was not working at the time)
play with it.
Two weeks from now if you lose you must smoke one pack of cigarettes in front of me.
(Who was non-smoker)
If am a loser, I will become a vegetarian like you.
Three days later he contacted me saying:
Quotethe device is working.
Wesley
stivep
Thanks for the post, I was once in the loop like you and it always seems to play out just as you described.
These brilliant inventors make a discovery then build on it. They try to get it out but the money/politics eventually leads to psychological issues which takes it's toll. The situation always seems to implode before a hand off of technology can occur.
I can tell you why this happens from what I have seen. The inventor is a realist trying to exist within a world consumed by greed and false beliefs. The technology end is pretty easy however the intelligence/foresight which allows for the discovery also raises many ethical concerns. The inventor knows there basically giving a child a loaded gun and this is why they eventually lose it. So it's a catch 22, when they win they then realize they cannot win, hence the dilemma.
This technology is unique because the real process occurs in the last place anyone would think to look. Most Engineers could bring all there equipment and test all they want for months and still have no idea why it works. I would even go so far as to say the inventors who don't allow testing have grossly overestimated the intelligence of the people who would test it. I know countless engineers and the odds they could find then understand the exact process is basically zero. It's simply outside there level of understanding as a matter of perception. This isn't a math/science problem it's a how does something work in reality problem.
QuoteIn 2013 I was approached by a Japanese, who visited me a few times.
money was at no limit if results are on the table.
but I don't do deals, I don't sell and I don't buy.!! however I can help.
Thanks to me Tariel Kapanadze was given an opportunity to gain 100 millions.
The quote I heard related to FE technology was, more money than your entire family tree could spend in a lifetime. I mean, what's at stake would make Elon Musk look like a beggar. However it's another catch 22, do we take the money and become another asshole consumed by greed and power or choose to be content and happy?. You see, in order to get the money we have to sell our soul and freedom to them and that's a very steep price to pay.
Here's a thought, maybe if the business people and investors weren't such assholes the inventors would be more willing to work with them. You know, it's crazy enough it could work...
Regards
AC
Here is a video of James Schwartz's 6kW device which is grounded
and first thing he does he activates the circuit that automatically seeks
the local ground frequency.
"WE'RE GONNA FIND THE FREQUENCY OF THE EARTH THAT MATCHES"
"OK, IT'LL SEEK OUT AND FIND"
"OK, OH WOW"
You can see below it finds 9,574 Hz.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-sTrGVcOIA
........
Like i disclosed number of times already, i emailed Schwartz 2 or 3 years ago
asking him for secret to his neutrino rods. Ofc course he never replied.
Then i wrote another email in which i accused him of stealing the tech
from Tesla and others (referring to devices such as one above, not rods)
but he misunderstood it i meant rods and this time, ego-hurt he replied
dismissing that he stole the rods, but of course never revealed anything.
It is well known he lied about "73-74 elements" just to confuse everyone,
it is of course much simpler. Altho i did not admit it to him, and he may
read this, i still think those rods are among best OU devices ever, totally
passive, no electronics, no input power, only device that might be better
is ATREE, but ATREE was waaay more complex and these seem to be
simble carbon rods, possibly one had 1 or more diamagnetic impurities
and another paramagnetic, maybe baked in high B and E fields. Maybe
also while exposed to certain RF, we can only guess, greed buried this
one like all the others.
Interesting explanation of paralell resonance.
Resonant transformer - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jztOkSZmAI)
Diodes in Stepanov transformer may just be a half wave rectifier on the output.
Rectified output may be used for heating.
At resonance curent and voltage are in phase.
Cheers,
Pix
It is interesting,man had dream,hope and beleve.
And we took and destroyed everything.
I myself had a hundred different ideas, and they all fell apart.
Because it doesn't work or because no one needs it.
What's the point of this? sad.
p.s.
https://booksee.org/dl/482750/f119aa (https://booksee.org/dl/482750/f119aa)
I didn't just mention this book.
It contains many interesting designs, some of which reminded me of Stepanov's device.
I wonder if there is something similar in English? :)
Quote from: kolbacict on June 26, 2022, 11:02:47 AM
It is interesting,man had dream,hope and beleve.
And we took and destroyed everything.
I myself had a hundred different ideas, and they all fell apart.
Because it doesn't work or because no one needs it.
What's the point of this? sad.
p.s.
https://booksee.org/dl/482750/f119aa (https://booksee.org/dl/482750/f119aa)
I didn't just mention this book.
It contains many interesting designs, some of which reminded me of Stepanov's device.
I wonder if there is something similar in English? :)
That link contains virus.
Quote from: pix on June 26, 2022, 05:31:41 PM
That link contains virus.
And you are paid to resist and debunk...? The link contains no virus.
https://ferd041.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/h2e.pdf
Quote from: alan on June 27, 2022, 08:36:26 AM
And you are paid to resist and debunk...? The link contains no virus.
https://ferd041.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/h2e.pdf
Now it seems virus free but yesterday antivirus said it was infected.
https://ferd041.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/h2e.pdf (https://ferd041.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/h2e.pdf)
The technology is working, but there are technological contradictions.
The magnetocaloric effect enters into a technological contradiction with thermal inertia.
p.s.
You haven't seen my toilet yet!
And it doesn't bother me at all.
You can be clean even without comfort and conveniences, and you can be a pig living in a comfortable villa. :D
Quote from: nix85 on June 25, 2022, 01:55:49 PM
video of James Schwartz's 6kW device which is grounded//
activates the circuit that automatically seeks
the local ground frequency.
"WE'RE GONNA FIND THE FREQUENCY OF THE EARTH THAT MATCHES"
You can see below it finds 9,574 Hz.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-sTrGVcOIA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-sTrGVcOIA)
Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps (https://overunity.com/7842/selfrunning-3-kwatts-err-unit-powering-3-x-800-watt-lamps/msg193804/#msg193804) «
Reply #1 on: July 27, 2009, 05:27:35 AM »Dr. James B. Schwartz
narf1933@yahoo.com https://www.facebook.com/overunitydotcom/videos/dr-james-b-schwartz-free-energy-device/514413649045825/ (https://www.facebook.com/overunitydotcom/videos/dr-james-b-schwartz-free-energy-device/514413649045825/)
Schwartz partnered with Noah's Ark Research Donald - last name "Sample" ?
not sure but much before year, 2000
____________________________________
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocA7DVRzIn0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocA7DVRzIn0)
quote from some text under video.
Please read it all.QuoteDr. James B. Schwartz back in the '90s. made a claim that he can generate electricity from the invisible electromagnetic spectrum
//may seem like one of those scams from the '90s
That person is none other than Mr. Reed Huish
//involved in Zpower corporation
Zpower corporation
https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_az/07464881 (https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_az/07464881)
ZPOWER CORPORATION Company Number 07464881 Status Inactive Incorporation Date 5 April 1995
Latest Events 1995-04-05 - 2016-08-22 Addition of officer REED N HUISH, agent (https://opencorporates.com/events/1397805473)
2016-08-22 - 2021-06-20 Became inactive (https://opencorporates.com/events/2218871000) 2016-08-22 - 2021-06-20 Change of status from '' to 'Inactive' (https://opencorporates.com/events/2218871087) Quote
Why is that important? Well in one of the videos Dr. James B. Schwartz is presented as Dr. Benjamin ZPower Chief Engineer/Scientist.
Now that would be totally uninteresting if this video was not removed from youtube.
And Mr. Reed Huish has no visible videos on his channel anymore.
At this point, something started to bother me about this.
Therefore, I investigated further and could not find that Dr. James B Schwartz is in any way associated with the ZPower corporation.
I may be wrong about this and if anyone from the ZPower corporation wishes to make a statement about this I would be glad to accept one.
Quoteconcept exists for a very long time //not introduced to the publi until 2020.
// a press release from January 23, 2020, that the company ZPower ZPower releases breakthrough solar panel that works at night.
Dr. Schwartz is not mentioned in this article.
//contact ZPower corporation, Mr. Reed Huish.//
I don't know why this news went under the radar.
Maybe because of the global pandemic.
The last part of this text from under video :
QuoteBut the fact remains, we have achieved what the great Tesla predicted so long ago.
We can create electricity from the ether as he stated.
says about ether/ eather BS. and Tesla predictions.that's for me evident we didn'y deal with scientist making this video but some
curious digger.
ether/ eather BS
Overunity
Perpetual motion
all of it doesn't exist and is likely spread by some government sponsored Russian trolls domain or by nix85Feb 12, 2018James Schwartz (https://www.researchgate.net/profile/James-Schwartz)https://www.researchgate.net/project/We-are-presently-building-a-one-mega-watt-Flux-Power-Generator-you-can-see-our-plans-for-our-project-by-going-to-FLUXPOWERTECHNOLOGYCOM (https://www.researchgate.net/project/We-are-presently-building-a-one-mega-watt-Flux-Power-Generator-you-can-see-our-plans-for-our-project-by-going-to-FLUXPOWERTECHNOLOGYCOM)
http://fluxpowertechnology.com/ (http://fluxpowertechnology.com/)
Some interesting info is here
https://overunity.com/7842/selfrunning-3-kwatts-err-unit-powering-3-x-800-watt-lamps/msg194369/#msg194369 (https://overunity.com/7842/selfrunning-3-kwatts-err-unit-powering-3-x-800-watt-lamps/msg194369/#msg194369)
I lost link to quote from below but is from overunity forum.
QuoteLike i disclosed number of times already, i emailed Schwartz 2 or 3 years ago
asking him for secret to his neutrino rods. Ofc course he never replied.
Then i wrote another email in which i accused him of stealing the tech
from Tesla and others (referring to devices such as one above, not rods)
but he misunderstood it i meant rods and this time, ego-hurt he replied
dismissing that he stole the rods, but of course never revealed anything.
It is well known he lied about "73-74 elements" just to confuse everyone,
it is of course much simpler. Altho i did not admit it to him, and he may
read this, i still think those rods are among best OU devices ever, totally
passive, no electronics, no input power, only device that might be better
is ATREE, but ATREE was waaay more complex and these seem to be
simble carbon rods, possibly one had 1 or more diamagnetic impurities
and another paramagnetic, maybe baked in high B and E fields. Maybe
also while exposed to certain RF, we can only guess, greed buried this
one like all the others.
Wesley
Quote from: nix85 on June 25, 2022, 01:55:49 PM
video of James Schwartz's 6kW device which is grounded//
activates the circuit that automatically seeks
the local ground frequency.
"WE'RE GONNA FIND THE FREQUENCY OF THE EARTH THAT MATCHES"
You can see below it finds 9,574 Hz.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-sTrGVcOIA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-sTrGVcOIA)
nothing that was said in the video is at any point true according to physics.
Good entertainment for Joe Shmoe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Shmoe (https://overunity.com/7842/selfrunning-3-kwatts-err-unit-powering-3-x-800-watt-lamps/msg193804/#msg193804)
Neutrino is explained here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeutrinoGround (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeutrinoGround)
frequency 9,574 Hz. has nothing to do with Neutrino. and doesn't have any specific meaning.
-nothing significant about it.
Quote from: nix85 on June 25, 2022, 01:55:49 PM
video of James Schwartz's 6kW device which is grounded//
The device on the video was not grounded, nor a device from other video.
However there is something apart from B.S of Dr "whoever"
This frequency 9,574 Hz is in the range of comfortable frequencies for Dr James Corum and my own energy extraction from Schumann waveguide.
Q:So how he did it?
A:Magician knows his tricks.
Wesley
Quote from: stivep on June 28, 2022, 02:42:04 PM
This frequency 9,574 Hz is in the range of comfortable frequencies for Dr James Corum and my own energy extraction from Schumann waveguide.
What is the source of Schumann resonance excitation?
QuoteLightning discharges are considered to be the primary natural source of Schumann resonance excitation;
lightning channels behave like huge antennas that radiate electromagnetic energy at frequencies below about 100 kHz.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances)
How are signals extracted from a waveguide?
QuoteSignals are typically introduced to and extracted from waveguides by means of small antenna-like 0
coupling devices inserted into the waveguide.
Sometimes these coupling elements take the form of a dipole, which is nothing more than two open-ended stub wires of appropriate length.
https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-14/waveguides/ (https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-14/waveguides/)
our Tesla coil is our antenna inside of the waveguide created from two spheres earth and ionosphere.
this Tesla coil receives energy deposited in form of electromagnetic wave in the another waveguide called
interface.That
waveguide - interface. earth/air 2D interface - is
between :
earth (acting as partially conducting medium)
and
air (acting as dielectric)
at Complex Brewster Angle, in
TM mode
note: please do not confuse Brewster angle with Complex Brewster Angle
–at complex Brewster angle, electromagnetic wave is entering interface without refraction and reflection.
2D– stands for two dimensional space, between earth and air.
Re: Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg557086/#msg557086) «
Reply #243 on: April 25, 2021, 03:21:05 AM »
some help with understanding Complex Brewster Angle
is in the link below however that link applies to lossy dielectric (but the mechanism is exactly the same)
- the article is talking only about Brewster angle not Complex Brewster Angle
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/235108138_A_Note_on_the_Brewster_Angle_in_Lossy_Dielectric_Media (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/235108138_A_Note_on_the_Brewster_Angle_in_Lossy_Dielectric_Media)
Wesley
stivep
Quote
Perpetual motion
all of it doesn't exist and is likely spread by some government sponsored Russian trolls domain
If this is true can you name anything anywhere NOT in perpetual motion?.
I mean if what your implying is true then even a child should be able to name one thing not in perpetual motion.
I think it's comical because I have yet to meet anyone who has either the balls or brains to answer the question.
It's pretty pretty simple... put up or shut up.
Regards
AC
Quote from: onepower on June 28, 2022, 09:38:05 PM
stivep
If this is true can you name anything anywhere NOT in perpetual motion?.
I mean if what your implying is true then even a child should be able to name one thing not in perpetual motion.
I think it's comical because I have yet to meet anyone who has either the balls or brains to answer the question.
It's pretty pretty simple... put up or shut up.
Regards
AC
I do it with pleasure.
Talking about perpetual motion we mean the machine, device, of some free energy dreamersl
At first we need to specify what is
perpetual motion machine (of the first kind and second kind)
:
QuotePerpetual motion is the motion of bodies that continues forever in an unperturbed system.
A perpetual motion machine is a hypothetical machine that can do work infinitely
without an external energy source.
This kind of machine is impossible, as it would violate the first or second law of thermodynamics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion thermodynamics.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion#:~:text=Perpetual%20motion%20is%20the%20motion%20of%20bodies%20that,violate%20the%20first%20or%20second%20law%20of%20thermodynamics.)The answer to your question now:
any motion of the machine that doesn't violate the first or second law of thermodynamics is not perpetual motion of that machine
_______________________________________________________
You may catch me on semantics, but not much beyond that.
Wesley
@StivepResonant transformer - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jztOkSZmAI)
I think Stepanov transformer is just a simple resonant circuit.
Inductance is transformer secondary,on secondary side matched capacitor.
At resonance magnetizing current in primary is at minimum, large current and voltage is circulating between secondary of transformer and capacitor.
Driving frequency on primary is probably greater than 50Hz, that's why diodes on the output.
Current is rectified and may be used for heating .
stivep
QuoteTalking about perpetual motion we mean the machine, device, of some free energy dreamersl
At first we need to specify what is perpetual motion machine (of the first kind and second kind):
You didn't say a perpetual motion machine you said perpetual motion is impossible which is obviously incorrect.
QuotePerpetual motion is the motion of bodies that continues forever in an unperturbed system.
A perpetual motion machine is a hypothetical machine that can do work infinitely
without an external energy source.
This kind of machine is impossible, as it would violate the first or second law of thermodynamics.
I call this nonsense the false cause fallacy gambit.
This is when the person claims a free energy device cannot work because...
1)It cannot work infinitely without an external energy source.
2)It would violate the Conservation of Energy.
3)It would violate the first or second law of thermodynamics.
It's a false cause fallacy because the critics falsely assumed the device must violate any number of laws while being completely ignorant to any facts. Ergo, if they have no idea how it could possibly work then how would they know it violates any laws?. They cannot because there conclusion is based on a lack of knowledge and understanding. I mean, to a dimwit everything is impossible.
Regards
AC
Quote from: onepower on June 30, 2022, 01:46:17 AM
stivep
You didn't say a perpetual motion machine you said perpetual motion is impossible which is obviously incorrect.
I call this nonsense the false cause fallacy gambit.
This is when the person claims a free energy device cannot work because...
1)It cannot work infinitely without an external energy source.
2)It would violate the Conservation of Energy.
3)It would violate the first or second law of thermodynamics.
Regards
AC
Quote from: stivep on June 29, 2022, 02:25:03 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion thermodynamics.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion#:~:text=Perpetual%20motion%20is%20the%20motion%20of%20bodies%20that,violate%20the%20first%20or%20second%20law%20of%20thermodynamics.)The answer to your question:
any motion of the machine that doesn't violate the first or second law of thermodynamics is not perpetual motion of that machine
_______________________________________________________
You may catch me on semantics, but not much beyond that.
You saw the opportunity to challenge me, so you did.
Now you complaining that, Wesley was prepared for that,
Quote from: onepower on June 30, 2022, 01:46:17 AM
This is when the person claims a free energy device cannot work because...
Free Energy is not perpetual motion,= no gain to us.
Free Energy is only the energy that we don't have to pay for.-but it can
work(physics) for us.
Quote from: onepower on June 30, 2022, 01:46:17 AM
It's a false cause fallacy because the critics falsely assumed the device must violate any number of laws while being completely ignorant to any facts. Ergo, if they have no idea how it could possibly work then how would they know it violates any laws?. They cannot because there conclusion is based on a lack of knowledge and understanding. I mean, to a dimwit everything is impossible.
Physics is not based on belief or assumption
Physics doesn't recognize God.
Physics is based on models, and models are based on laws.
-there is no ignorance to the facts, it is just recognition or lack of recognition of the facts.
But at first those facts must exist and manifest its presence.
Work(physics) is the only factor treated as an evidence of fact for FE community.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work_(physics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work_(physics))
Quote from: stivep on June 29, 2022, 02:25:03 AM
I mean, to a dimwit everything is impossible
Unfortunately according to current physics,not much of this exotic BS is possible:
Overunity- not possible
Perpetual motion machine -not possible
ether/ eather - doesn't exist
time travel, - not possible
antigravity - not possible
Wesley
Free energy is potential regauging, because a potential can do free work, they convert virtual energy flux to observable energy, from seemingly nothing to a forcefieldflux. Magnets can do free work, the balance gets even when you put in energy afterwards to separate the magnets.
Quote from: alan on July 01, 2022, 06:07:56 AM
Free energy is "potential regauging,", because a potential can do free work, they convert virtual energy flux to observable energy, from seemingly nothing to a forcefieldflux. Magnets can do free work, the balance gets even when you put in energy afterwards to separate the magnets.
What a twist of a cocktail ,
let's disassemble it to the single components
each component will be marked with different color corresponding with the quote from above:
_______________________________________________________________________"free energy" descriptor
abuse manifests itself if not associated with particular subject.
it will have different meaning for chemistry, thermodynamics,
for example:
https://www.britannica.com/science/free-energy (https://www.britannica.com/science/free-energy)
https://www.physicallensonthecell.org/physical-molecular-processes/free-energy-energy-available-work (https://www.physicallensonthecell.org/physical-molecular-processes/free-energy-energy-available-work)
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/earth-and-planetary-sciences/free-energy (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/earth-and-planetary-sciences/free-energy)
So for us the FE community:
Free Energy determines, how systems change and how much work they can produce knowing that we would not have to pay for it.
the free energy has its origin in a form of transfer, conversion...
_______________________________________________________________________"potential regauging," descriptor
abuse manifests itself in number of articles and publications
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regauging
– http://www.intalek.com/Index/Projects/Research/REGAUGINGMasterOverunityMechanism.htm (http://www.intalek.com/Index/Projects/Research/REGAUGINGMasterOverunityMechanism.htm)
example of total nonsense:
QuoteA-regauging of the magnetic scalar potential to either (iii) accelerate the rotor,
or (iv) go to zero so as to zero out the back-drag.
So one will adjust the polarity and strength of the magnetic scalar potential
- https: Use_of_Regauging_and_Multivalved_Potentials_to_Achieve_Overunity_EM_Engines:_
(https://wiki.naturalphilosophy.org/index.php?title=Use_of_Regauging_and_Multivalved_Potentials_to_Achieve_Overunity_EM_Engines:_Concepts_and_Specific_Engine_Examples) Concepts_and_Specific_Engine_Examples (https://wiki.naturalphilosophy.org/index.php?title=Use_of_Regauging_and_Multivalved_Potentials_to_Achieve_Overunity_EM_Engines:_Concepts_and_Specific_Engine_Examples)-https://www.glossaria.net/en/tesla-scientific-developments
-yet loosely related and other nonsense:
https://billstclair.com/www.cheniere.org/techpapers/jap/masterprinciple.htm (https://billstclair.com/www.cheniere.org/techpapers/jap/masterprinciple.htm)
end of abused events listing.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regauging (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regauging) this link is placed here for clarity .
As you see there is no text here.But in physics:Quotehttps://www.liquisearch.com/regauging/classical_gauge_theory/classical_electromagnetism (https://www.liquisearch.com/regauging/classical_gauge_theory/classical_electromagnetism)
first example of gauge symmetry to be discovered was classical electromagnetism.
In electrostatics, one can either discuss the electric field, E, or its corresponding electric potential, V.
Knowledge of one makes it possible to find the other, except that potentials differing by
a constant, correspond to the same electric field.
This is because the electric field relates to changes in the potential from one point in space to
another, and the constant C would cancel out when subtracting to find the change in potential.
_______________________________________________________________________
virtual energy flux
energy flux is explained here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_flux (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_flux)
descriptor: virtual energy flux is unknown to me, please explain what you have in mind, what it means, including a link to scientific literature._______________________________________________________________________
observable energy,:
In classical physics, an
observable isa physical quantity that can be measured.
in quantum physics, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable#Quantum_mechanics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable#Quantum_mechanics)
Incompatibility of observables in quantum mechanics is explained here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable#Incompatibility_of_observables_in_quantum_mechanics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable#Incompatibility_of_observables_in_quantum_mechanics)
please specify what you have in mind.
_______________________________________________________________________
Magnets can do free work,
No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm sorry magnet cannot work -at allhttps://www.quora.com/If-magnetic-fields-cant-do-work-how-can-one-magnet-physically-move-another (https://www.quora.com/If-magnetic-fields-cant-do-work-how-can-one-magnet-physically-move-another)
Wesley
Quote from: nix85 on June 24, 2022, 01:48:58 PM
HA, this clown is spewing utter drivel constantly and now he even
DENIES ETHER.
My my, what a joke. To deny ether,
Quote from: stivep on June 24, 2022, 07:47:27 AM
Nix85 was spreading "heresy" - profoundly at odds with what is generally accepted by science.
did you notice that nix85 was Last Active: June 27, 2022, 08:12:28 PM.
He is likely from émigrés of Russian family - with good English from St. John's Newfoundland Labrador Canada region.
it looks like Putin didn't deliver money on time (joke).
Wesley
"Work" requires motion.
What is it called if a simple magnet exerts a force on an iron ball which causes it to roll and accelerate towards the magnet? Or does it not move according to theory?
https://www.quora.com/Quantum-Field-Theory-The-Coulomb-force-between-electrical-charges-is-caused-by-exchange-of-photons-What-is-really-going-on-how-is-the-transfer-of-these-virtual-particles-responsible-for-such-important-phenomena-we-experience-in-our-daily-lives
For the love of simplicity and symmetry:
Quote from: alan on July 01, 2022, 10:11:55 AM
"Work" requires motion.
What is it called if a simple magnet exerts a force on an iron ball which causes it to roll and accelerate towards the magnet? Or does it not move according to theory?
For the love of simplicity and symmetry:
Quote from: alan on July 01, 2022, 10:11:55 AM
"Work" requires motion.
by that "work" is no longer related to free energy, unless this work is paid by nature, or somebody else.
force used to do "work"must come from somewhere, and at the expense of someone or something.
–you may only do "work" using magnets
"Work" associated and explained as "Work" of magnets is pure nonsense .
_____________________________________________________________Quote from: alan on July 01, 2022, 06:07:56 AM
Free energy is potential regauging, because a potential can do free work, they convert virtual energy flux to observable energy, from seemingly nothing to a forcefieldflux. Magnets can do free work, the balance gets even when you put in energy afterwards to separate the magnets.
in my response: Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL (https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg568440/#msg568440) «
Reply #440 on: Today at 03:30:56 PM »
I ask you to respond to unknown/non-clear to me descriptors you have used, so I can start to understand what you talking about.
Would you please provide the link to the picture of yours so I can analyze article.
Wesley
force used to do "work"must come from somewhere, and at the expense of someone or something.
At what expense is a magnet adding energy to an iron object?
Above picture shows what the "Lorenz gauge" is dismissing of mathematically and invariantly (they can do without it)
in my response: Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL (https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg568440/#msg568440) « Reply #440 on: Today at 03:30:56 PM »
I ask you to respond to unknown/non-clear to me descriptors you have used, so I can start to understand what you talking about.
Wesley
please respond to this particular post before we go forward.
1.Please provide the link. to the picture
"interpreting 4-symetry in electrical engineering terms"
2."potential regauging,"- what is it and what do you understand by that?
3. "virtual energy flux" - what is it and what do you understand by that?
4. " forcefieldflux" - what is it and what do you understand by that?
5. please explain the process of "virtual energy flux to observable energy, from seemingly nothing to a forcefieldflux"
6. please explain the role of the magnets in .5 where Magnets can do free work
please provide the answer in numerical order and in the format:
example: ."potential regauging," is .....
Wesley
Quote from: stivep on July 01, 2022, 10:49:16 AM
in my response: Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL (https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg568440/#msg568440) « Reply #440 on: Today at 03:30:56 PM »
I ask you to respond to unknown/non-clear to me descriptors you have used, so I can start to understand what you talking about.
Would you please provide the link to the picture of yours so I can analyze article.
Wesley
please respond to this particular post before we go forward.
Please also provide the link. The picture
"interpreting 4-symetry in electrical engineering terms"
Wesley
If we're done discussing the work-energy problem.
Quote from: alan on July 01, 2022, 10:50:47 AM
If we're done discussing the work-energy problem.
No
where is your response to my questions or you rather prefer– that I need to repeat them?
Wesley
Quote from: stivep on July 01, 2022, 11:00:26 AM
No
please respond to the questions or you rather prefer a need to repeat them?
Wesley
Quote from: stivep on July 01, 2022, 11:00:26 AM
No
response to the questions or you rather prefer need to repeat them?
Wesley
I'll repeat them: my main point was movement, work, energy that a permanent magnet adds to an object without apparent input
and the broken symmetry of an electric dipole that's doing the same to particles: asserting a force on charges, attracting them, adding energy and movement, without the dipole being consumed.
Gravity does the same: if a meteor enters the gravitational influence of the earth and it falls to ground, it accelerates by F=m*g, and energy is added by 0,5mv^2 and totalled by W=F*s, energy has been added without gravitational potential being "consumed".
in my response: Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL (https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg568440/#msg568440) « Reply #440 on: Today at 03:30:56 PM »
I ask you to respond to unknown/non-clear to me descriptors you have used, so I can start to understand what you talking about.
please respond to this particular post before we go forward.
1.Please provide the link. to the picture
"interpreting 4-symetry in electrical engineering terms"
2."potential regauging,"- what is it and what do you understand by that?
3. "virtual energy flux" - what is it and what do you understand by that?
4. " forcefieldflux" - what is it and what do you understand by that?
5. please explain the process of "virtual energy flux to observable energy, from seemingly nothing to a forcefieldflux"
6. please explain the role of the magnets in .5 where Magnets can do free work
please provide the answer in numerical order and in the format:
example: ."potential regauging," is .....
Wesley
Quote from: stivep on July 01, 2022, 11:29:18 AM
in my response: Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL (https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg568440/#msg568440) « Reply #440 on: Today at 03:30:56 PM »
I ask you to respond to unknown/non-clear to me descriptors you have used, so I can start to understand what you talking about.
Wesley
please respond to this particular post before we go forward.
1.Please provide the link. to the picture
"interpreting 4-symetry in electrical engineering terms"
2."potential regauging,"- what is it and what do you understand by that?
3. "virtual energy flux" - what is it and what do you understand by that?
4. " forcefieldflux" - what is it and what do you understand by that?
5. please explain the process of "virtual energy flux to observable energy, from seemingly nothing to a forcefieldflux"
6. please explain the role of the magnets in .5 where Magnets can do free work
please provide the answer in numerical order and in the format:
example: ."potential regauging," is .....
Wesley
It's nonsensical FE mumbo lingo, except for 6. Just think.
Magnet pull into movement, magnet force add energy. Nature delivers energy, user inputs to make it undone.
Magnet pushed to another magnet with equal poles facing: first user inputs energy, then after release, nature returns (spring-like potential).
https://youtu.be/X6143k9-epo (https://youtu.be/X6143k9-epo)
Why, when I bring a permanent magnet, does the vibration transducer tongue vibrating at the frequency of its mechanical resonance increase vibrations? ;)
::)
alan
QuoteI'll repeat them: my main point was movement, work, energy that a permanent magnet adds to an object without apparent input
and the broken symmetry of an electric dipole that's doing the same to particles: asserting a force on charges, attracting them, adding energy and movement, without the dipole being consumed.
I agree and the laws state that it takes energy to produce a magnetic field but not to maintain it ie. a permanent magnet.
I also built a permanent electromagnet based on principals similar to the ones you have outlined. All that is required is to keep the free electrons in a perpetual circular motion just like in an atom. If an atom can do it then so can we, it's just a matter of working through the problem.
QuoteGravity does the same: if a meteor enters the gravitational influence of the earth and it falls to ground, it accelerates by F=m*g, and energy is added by 0,5mv^2 and totalled by W=F*s, energy has been added without gravitational potential being "consumed".
In fact, the gravitational potential increases as more mass is added to the Earth. That's strange isn't it?, the Earth produces a gravitational field which attracts more mass which produces more Earth and gravitational field attracting more mass... and so on. So here we have a real world example of growth or self-action where the thing producing a force always attracts more stuff to produce more force thus energy. Oh wait, crap, we just proved the Earth does what all the brain dead critics claimed cannot be done. How could they have missed something so obvious?. I mean there literally standing right on top of the thing they claim cannot happen... I call that effect gross incompetence.
Regards
AC
OMG :o
Discussion went banana..
Quote from: alan on July 01, 2022, 11:34:12 AM
It's nonsensical FE mumbo lingo, except for 6. Just think.
you didn't provide
link .1you refused to respond, in the format of answer, scientists would respect.
As far a nonsense
it is your own nonsense, and I repeat it one more time:
Quote from: alan on July 01, 2022, 06:07:56 AMFree energy is potential regauging, because a potential can do free work, they convert virtual energy flux to observable energy, from seemingly nothing to a forcefieldflux. Magnets can do free work, the balance gets even when you put in energy afterwards to separate the magnets.
________________________________________________________Quote from: alan on July 01, 2022, 11:34:12 AM
Magnet pull into movement, magnet force add energy.
Nature delivers energy, user inputs to make it undone.
Magnet pushed to another magnet with equal poles facing: first user inputs energy, then after release, nature returns (spring-like potential).
Well, the answer is that the magnet
does not actually exert any power at all, apart from introducing the force.
Quote"magnetism is extremely useful for converting energy from one form to another.,Quote"Magnetism is a force, but it has no energy of its own,"
https://engineering.mit.edu/engage/ask-an-engineer/why-cant-magnetism-be-used-as-a-source-of-energy/ (https://engineering.mit.edu/engage/ask-an-engineer/why-cant-magnetism-be-used-as-a-source-of-energy/)
Wesley
Well, the answer is that the magnet does not actually exert any power at all, apart from introducing the force.
thank you
Quote from: onepower on July 01, 2022, 01:03:03 PM
In fact, the gravitational potential increases as more mass is added to the Earth. That's strange isn't it?, the Earth produces a gravitational field which attracts more mass which produces more Earth and gravitational field attracting more mass... and so on. So here we have a real world example of growth or self-action where the thing producing a force always attracts more stuff to produce more force thus energy. Oh wait, crap, we just proved the Earth does what all the brain dead critics claimed cannot be done. How could they have missed something so obvious?. I mean there literally standing right on top of the thing they claim cannot happen... I call that effect gross incompetence.
Regards
AC
Quote from: alan on July 01, 2022, 01:36:58 PM
Well, the answer is that the magnet does not actually exert any power at all, apart from introducing the force.
thank you
Why can't magnetism be used as a source of energy?
https://engineering.mit.edu/engage/ask-an-engineer/why-cant-magnetism-be-used-as-a-source-of-energy/
(https://engineering.mit.edu/engage/ask-an-engineer/why-cant-magnetism-be-used-as-a-source-of-energy/) David Cohen-Tanugi, vice president of the MIT Energy Club and a John S. Hennessy Fellow in MIT's Materials Science and Engineering department
Wesley :)
Quote from: stivep on July 01, 2022, 01:41:40 PM
Why can't magnetism be used as a source of energy?
https://engineering.mit.edu/engage/ask-an-engineer/why-cant-magnetism-be-used-as-a-source-of-energy/
(https://engineering.mit.edu/engage/ask-an-engineer/why-cant-magnetism-be-used-as-a-source-of-energy/)Wesley :)
Why every BLDC motor contains permanent magnets?
Because permanent magnets makes that motor much more efficient.
Why nobody came to idea to use permanent magnet plus air gap in flyback?
Have no idea. ::)
Cheers,
Pix
Quote from: stivep on July 01, 2022, 01:41:40 PM
Why can't magnetism be used as a source of energy?
https://engineering.mit.edu/engage/ask-an-engineer/why-cant-magnetism-be-used-as-a-source-of-energy/
(https://engineering.mit.edu/engage/ask-an-engineer/why-cant-magnetism-be-used-as-a-source-of-energy/) David Cohen-Tanugi, vice president of the MIT Energy Club and a John S. Hennessy Fellow in MIT's Materials Science and Engineering department
Wesley :)
Would this work??
a coil on an iron rod: electromagnet. energy is stored in the coil after magnetizing and released as current during demagnetizing. Energy magnetizing=demagnetizing.
While it is magnetized and the field is there, it pulls an iron piston: work done. Magnetic piston means Lenz
Does this decrease the demagnetizing energy?
2 kind of energies: conservative and force-field.
Work of attraction in a force field doesn't consume the potential that creates the field.
While I am here, at least I don't believe you wasting your time.
I will not put you on the wrong path/
I will not waste your time, by redirecting your attention into some Russian B.S of desinformation.
Some of you may be disappointed, after 10 years or more of no replication of some Russian fakes in FE.
Ugliness of brainwash, poverty, corruption, theft, dictatorship, ever present threatening, hate, racism, and banditism of the largest Mafia in the world dressed into governmental uniform is unprecedented.
Tariel Kapanadze device checked by me in Tbilisi Georgia was not fake.
History of Akula and others was explained by me here:
Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL (https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg568349/#msg568349) « Reply #422 on: June 25, 2022, 05:25:16 PM »
Wesley
Quote from: onepower on July 01, 2022, 01:03:03 PM
alan
I agree and the laws state that it takes energy to produce a magnetic field but not to maintain it ie. a permanent magnet.
I also built a permanent electromagnet based on principals similar to the ones you have outlined. All that is required is to keep the free electrons in a perpetual circular motion just like in an atom. If an atom can do it then so can we, it's just a matter of working through the problem.
In fact, the gravitational potential increases as more mass is added to the Earth. That's strange isn't it?, the Earth produces a gravitational field which attracts more mass which produces more Earth and gravitational field attracting more mass... and so on. So here we have a real world example of growth or self-action where the thing producing a force always attracts more stuff to produce more force thus energy. Oh wait, crap, we just proved the Earth does what all the brain dead critics claimed cannot be done. How could they have missed something so obvious?. I mean there literally standing right on top of the thing they claim cannot happen... I call that effect gross incompetence.
Regards
AC
Thanks. Magnetic and electric fields are like gravitational fields, but using them causes the dipole that create them be decreased.
The Daniel Cook battery and 'perpetual motion holder' are also nice examples. But it is hard to maintain an electromagnet with DC, current and thus B-field keep increasing linearly until saturation. That's why they use AC.
Quote from: stivep on July 01, 2022, 02:00:25 PM
While I am here, at least I don't believe you wasting your time.
I will not put you on the wrong path/
I will not waste your time, by redirecting your attention into some Russian B.S of desinformation.
Some of you may be disappointed, after 10 years or more of no replication of some Russian fakes in FE.
Tariel Kapanadze device checked by me in Tbilisi Georgia was not fake.
History of Akula and others was explained by me here:
Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL (https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg568349/#msg568349) « Reply #422 on: June 25, 2022, 05:25:16 PM »
Wesley
So EM "free energy" (source being nature) is possible?
Quote from: alan on July 01, 2022, 02:05:55 PM
So EM "free energy" (source being nature) is possible?
as a process yes.
It is not only possible it works
it was explained by me in here:
Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg559853/#msg559853) «
Reply #3379 on: August 24, 2021, 06:07:15 PM »
Wesley
Quote from: stivep on July 01, 2022, 02:08:44 PM
as a process yes.
It is not only possible it works
it was explained by me in here:
Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg559853/#msg559853) « Reply #3379 on: August 24, 2021, 06:07:15 PM »
Wesley
Ok I will browse the thread, thanks. I was under the impression that you were saying that it is not possible at all.
What I was wondering in this thread was: what delivers the energy to an object that is moving under the influence of a field.
Quote from: stivep on August 24, 2021, 12:07:15 PM
Read it carefully as it is a lot in the text not indirectly expressed.
There are two topics worth your attention:
https://overunity.com/18913/in-russian-ekspierimienty-po-biesprovodnoi-pieriedachie-enierghii-doska-stroitieliei/msg559510/#msg559510 (https://overunity.com/18913/in-russian-ekspierimienty-po-biesprovodnoi-pieriedachie-enierghii-doska-stroitieliei/msg559510/#msg559510)
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg559524/#msg559524 (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg559524/#msg559524)
.
Wesley
so, where is the fuel? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9cFnBMl6MM
It is not learjet 35 but learjet 35a
- and the fuel goes to the two tanks located at the wingtips.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learjet_35 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learjet_35)
Wesley
Quote from: kolbacict on July 01, 2022, 11:59:01 AM
https://youtu.be/X6143k9-epo (https://youtu.be/X6143k9-epo)
Why, when I bring a permanent magnet, does the vibration transducer tongue vibrating at the frequency of its mechanical resonance increase vibrations? ;)
this video of yours is much better: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jeziPoJia6w (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jeziPoJia6w)
absolutely amazing effect.I know those vibrators, there were in Russian radiolocation, and radio station mounted on track in power supplies in 1960s.
Mainly are R –137, R – 118, R – 140, http://f1frv.free.fr/main2_R-140.html (http://f1frv.free.fr/main2_R-140.html) R – 112 (as far as R – 112 – that one I'm not sure)
it is especially important because it was mentioned by
Eric Dollard and
John Hutchison a few others a few times
The answer to your question is:
I don't know yet.
–the vibrator from your video looks like it was not connected but it was vibrating
when you brought magnet next to the coil is that right?
Please provide me with the model number of the vibrator.After you placed permanent magnet near the coil
How long the vibration lasts?
Where are those two wires from the coil connected to ?
I believe they are connected to the contacts.
Short story:years ago I had a chance at any time to unscrew this Russian power supply on R – 140
and look at those vibrators.
It was not safe to buy entire R – 140 with the truck, for a few containers of vodka,
to any American boy in Eastern Germany- the country occupied by
those particular eastern European not so much educated bandits ,
with brains crimped and twisted by corruption .
Over 90% of the technology was stolen by Russians from USA
that served lend-lease during World War II.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease)
Those idiots copied some of that equipment bolt to bolt hole to hole
using original American tubes and even Imperial screws, as they were made by
American-made lathes, given to them by American lend-lease program.
Even monkey can be trained to certain degree. So Russians later on were even making
copy of all American triodes pentodes tubes.
Although to the communists was convenient to rule in "Russia – the savage primitive,"
The elite cannot stand the fact that their own children are educated – primitive when Western word is speeding up
in process of advanced civilization.
Soviet Union decided to create the best education system in the world and they did.
Few years later in 1960 Russians were already the best educated nation of omnibuses in the world.
It is great nation with a lot of value and the greatest in the world natural resources
that could easily turn Russia to the most advanced nation in the world.
Single Russian could do that what required a team of Americans,
and average Russian new to the poverty, knows soldiering, basic electronics, lathes, mills (https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=1d8c63cefde90db4341677931e3598baJmltdHM9MTY1Njc2NjgxMSZpZ3VpZD01MzY3ZTE4Mi03ZmE2LTRlNmItODYyMi1jNDcxMDkwMGYwYjEmaW5zaWQ9NTUzMQ&ptn=3&hsh=2&fclid=e7e12fe2-fa06-11ec-b942-202a89c96d8e&u=a1L3NlYXJjaD9xPWxhdGhlcyUyYyttaWxscyZGT1JNPUFXUkU&ntb=1) , etc.
omnibus is great– multifunctional, multi-trained, he knows our arts, mechanics, biology, some medicine,
how to weld, and basic electronics.
omnibus can also be easily killed and replaced by another
omnibus.. quickly trained
till he or she would be killed and replaced by Russian terror again and again.(–talking about Stalin)
such a convenience, to communist dictatorship isn't it?
But not much educated yet Russian elite made themselves boo-boo.
Omnibus is 20 times slower then American team of narrowly trained professionals.
world was changing to quality and quantity.
And there were the first flights to space Russian Sputnik with experimentally killed by Russians dog Laika,and Gagarin .
but shit happened-in 1990 Soviet Union collapsed and while dying gave birth to another convoluted mutant–
the Russian Federation . The new and the biggest in the history of the earth of mafia style system was born.
-were the best in the world Soviet system of education was discontinued.
Russian elite decided to send their children to Western free world for education, leaving new generation of "monkeys" inside of Russia.
legal note: according to American Constitution it is mine– my own personal point of view– opinion only.
Wesley
Yes, I mixed up my own videos, one is better, the other is worse.
The tongue vibrates in both videos. I found the frequency of its own
mechanical resonance using a low frequency generator. It's about 70Hz.
This vibration transducer was installed in a DC amplifier with lamps. Very old.
I do not know its brand, because it was broken even earlier, before me. Below is its photo.
Before, I was posted a similar video by yours "Synchro1", it seems to me. This is what prompted me to do the same.
Quote from: kolbacict on July 02, 2022, 09:47:03 AM
The tongue vibrates in both videos. I found the frequency of its own
mechanical resonance using a low frequency generator. It's about 70Hz.
This vibration transducer was installed in a DC amplifier with lamps. Very old.
I believe it is not called transducer but vibrator./ vibrio- converter.
the example you have is absolutely uncommon rare piece of beauty.The mechanical frequency of vibration is desirably to be 60 to 50Hz.
– because in 1947 Russians were still using World War II lend – lease American radios,
and illegally cloned/stolen by them transceivers, transmitters and receivers.
after 80 or so years, Russians low-quality changed frequency of vibration.
here are some similar vibrators:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fyp0vWoGAV8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0uAohf6aMs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fyp0vWoGAV8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0uAohf6aMs)
video below manifests behavior of some Russian
"cannibals" chopping vibrio- converter
to extract silver, palladium and gold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7s9fmxQmdA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7s9fmxQmdA)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK2Zh3aU7_E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK2Zh3aU7_E)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCtCmrFbr8Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCtCmrFbr8Q)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHqbBTdfeH0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHqbBTdfeH0)
- :) :) :)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!https://youtu.be/37y7LJLS_Is?t=348 (https://youtu.be/37y7LJLS_Is?t=348) working in the device
here you have schematic of 1950s mechanical AC to DC "rectifier "
and explanation how it works
very much educational video but in Russian.https://youtu.be/qyInWNcI3f8?t=380 (https://youtu.be/qyInWNcI3f8?t=380)
скажи-ка. Когда вы приблизились к катушке магнитoм,- вибратор не был электрически подключен ни с чем? Я прав?
Wesley
QuoteI believe it is not called transducer but vibrator./ vibrio- converter.
Thank you. we will to know .
These are the subtleties of translation.
Such amplifiers were usually used on self-writing potentiometers from industrial automation.
Quotevideo below manifests behavior of some Russian "cannibals" chopping vibrio- converter
to extract silver, palladium and gold
This time they didn't make it. The contacts there are indeed palladium.
Quoteскажи-ка. Когда вы приблизились к катушке магнитoм,- вибратор не был электрически подключен ни с чем? Я прав?
Contacts are not connected. The coil is powered by a small voltage of about 70 Hz.
https://volgograd.rkpo.ru/sites/default/files/Articles/88-potenciometr-ksp2.jpg (https://volgograd.rkpo.ru/sites/default/files/Articles/88-potenciometr-ksp2.jpg)
p.s. This was shown to us before by your forum member synchro1. Only he had a cylindrical coil and a steel plate on top.
Well so I think himself the field of a permanent magnet is conservative.
It cannot bring additional energy.
Quote from: kolbacict on
Today at 07:48:52 PM (https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg568499/#msg568499)
>
https://volgograd.rkpo.ru/sites/default/files/Articles/88-potenciometr-ksp2.jpg (https://volgograd.rkpo.ru/sites/default/files/Articles/88-potenciometr-ksp2.jpg)
p.s. This was shown to us before by your forum member synchro1.
Only he had a cylindrical coil and a steel plate on top.
are you sure you gave me the right picture?
I only found Russian true butchering of that apparatus by some Russian "cannibal"
trying to extract some pressure metals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06JaU940Fbo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06JaU940Fbo)
can you provide link to synchro1 post.
ксп2 .Does not have any vibrator вибропреобразовател?
ксп2 . Не имеет вибратора (вибропреобразовател)? Вы уверены, что дали мне правильную картинку?
Я нашел только русское истинное убийство этого устройства каким-то русским «каннибалом»
Wesley
Quoteare you sure you gave me the right picture?
That's right. It was the wrong picture. This is more modern already with a solid-state amplifier.
I was too lazy to search, put in what was first caught on the net. :)
But now I found it. I shot it myself, it's my thing. There was definitely a DC tube amplifier with vibration modulators.
Quote from: stivep on July 02, 2022, 02:42:15 PM
можете ли вы дать мне ссылку на synchro1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vibrator_(electronic)
https://www.radioremembered.org/vpwrsup.htm
Wesley
Kolbacict
QuoteI'm trying to. It's not easy.
Easy and difficult is relative...
I know many people who have spent a lifetime chasing this technology and it cost them everything. The greatest inventors in FE like Tesla, Moray, Benitez, Figuera, Hendershot and countless others spent decades in search of understanding. However as almost everyone who actually built a working FE device has claimed... even a child could understand it.
Which is a bit of a contradiction isn't it?, impossible from the perspective of 99% of the population and science but so simple a child could understand it?. Forget FE, the direct and unavoidable collision of perspectives is enough cause for concern. How is it that 99% of the population could be somehow delusional or misinformed about the nature of reality?.
For example, most get triggered and completely lose it when I mention perpetual motion but none can give even one example of something not in perpetual motion. They get confused, take it out of context, go into denial then change the context when confronted with actual facts and it's always a complete shit show. I have never seen this kind of absolute denial over something so obvious that even a child could understand.
Thus, this technology was never about any facts proven or implied it was about false beliefs based on flawed perceptions. I mean, if what we know is true and everything is in perpetual motion and motion is energy then everything is energy. We are swimming in a sea of energy with billions of misinformed people floating on it's surface dying of thirst...
Regards
AC
Quote from: onepower on July 02, 2022, 06:58:52 PM
Easy and difficult is relative...
// Tesla, Moray, Benitez, Figuera, Hendershot and countless others spent decades in search of understanding.
// a bit of a contradiction isn't it?, //a complete shit show.
//never any facts proven or implied //false beliefs based on flawed perceptions.//if what we know is true
Regards
AC
actually it is easy.
The question is for whom?
For electrician four wire system is easy.For PCB maker another PCB is easy.For surgeon operation of broken wrist is easy.
For those guys from this video including me:
https://youtu.be/wIIABIU3tRw?t=490 (https://youtu.be/wIIABIU3tRw?t=490)
Zenneck Wave is easy
-actually Zenneck Wave is everything this video is talking about
there are only particular descriptors for each of the individual special cases of Zenneck Wave
having different names reserved to different frequencies and methods of polarization.
however an effect is electromagnetic wave in the interface.
And that is what is needed for your FE device.
______________________________________________________I didn't make FE device – actually I build the device, but Dr. Hans made it work.
Most of you are waiting for free solution given out, and in form off bookshelf from IKEA with instruction how to put it together.
So try to understand one simple thing:you can't make cell phone, modern TV, refrigerator, washing machine, Tesla car, at home.
means you have no knowledge you have no resources, it's too expensive, and too much time consuming.
–why bother, We just go and buy it.
when given an opportunity, most of you acts only to satisfy your curiosity but after that
–why bother,
means you have no knowledge and because of that, lack of motivation becomes a problem.
______________________________________________________[/glowSo let's take a look at quite opposite situation now:
some musicians goes deep into art of music because they like it, and wanted - it's a hobby.
Some airplanes enthusiastic builders makes ultralight airplanes.
And some average guys not always scientists goes deep into art of that very narrow branch
of physics: waveguides, electromagnetic wave polarization, propagation in the interface.
And of course an interface is a special kind of waveguide.
Tesla didn't make money, because he was into fun of making things.
I don't care about money, I'm a minimalist
QuoteMinimalists tend to spend less than they earn because they're
not trying to buy their way to satisfaction
https://www.maximumgratitudeminimalstuff.com/2022/01/why-im-minimalist.html (https://www.maximumgratitudeminimalstuff.com/2022/01/why-im-minimalist.html)
______________________________________________________
solution:
you can learn French, Polish, or Russian if you want-to in three years.
I have learned Russian in here in USA, because of too lazy Russian scientists unwilling to learn English I was employing
.
Spent the freaking 10 months deeply going to one particular direction because you like itor because you don't want to know less than me in that one particular direction in physics.
It doesn't matter what is your motivation, and you will see the results.
–if after that you make the device I explained in two topics, then that is your payback.
–if after that you didn't make the device I explained two topics, then knowledge is your payback.
and if you don't,
then you are not enthusiasts,
you not have the drive of musician wanted to be better.
Some of you're are just freaking lazy opportunists, lazy thinkers, not worth the time and attention of an educator.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunism)
I have no motivation to convince you, because I'm selling nothing and advertising nothing.
You want Free Energy – electrical energy for free
but you don't respect free knowledge given to you guys.
I donated my time, wrote the book of posts, and you refused to read it.....
So with all due respect screw you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am not an IKEA
and I do not intend to deliver bookshelf in pieces - Home wife can put together
:) :) :)
Wesley
stivep
You seem pretty cool but you logic and line of reason seems incoherent to me. You started on electronics and Zenneck Waves, jumped to home appliances, touched on language and economics and ended up howling at the moon. It ends up sounding like a diatribe of miscellaneous subjects having no direction or focus I can comprehend.
No offense but I have literally no idea what in the hell you were actually trying to say... it eludes me.
Regards
AC
Quote from: onepower on July 02, 2022, 06:58:52 PM
Easy and difficult is relative...
AC
I meant it's hard to find a link to synchro1 with my ancient computer, my slow internet.
p.s. But the perpetual motion machine is also not yet obtained. :'(
p.p.s. Are there no gold-refining vandals in your country?
Quote from: onepower on July 03, 2022, 01:26:36 AM
stivep
You seem pretty cool but you logic and line of reason seems incoherent to me. You started on electronics and Zenneck Waves, jumped to home appliances, touched on language and economics and ended up howling at the moon. It ends up sounding like a diatribe of miscellaneous subjects having no direction or focus I can comprehend.
No offense but I have literally no idea what in the hell you were actually trying to say... it eludes me.
Regards
AC
How most threads go on the forum. How it is easily derailed into oblivion.
Quote from: Thaelin on July 03, 2022, 02:57:53 AM
How most threads go on the forum. How it is easily derailed into oblivion.
Yep.
3 pages ago I asked question regarding diodes in Stepanov resonant transformer.
Nobody reply, but discussion went completely banana around some ambitious and personal matters.
Subject is : RLC parallel reactive current, yet discussion derails into some exotic topics .
Waiting when it cools down .
Cheers,
Pix
Quote from: onepower on July 03, 2022, 01:26:36 AM
stivep
//you logic and line of reason seems incoherent to me.
my reasoning coherency is around your reaction
Quote from: onepower on July 02, 2022, 06:58:52 PM
Easy and difficult is relative...
// many people who have spent a lifetime chasing this technology //Tesla, Moray, Benitez, Figuera, Hendershot
//99% of the population // delusional or misinformed about the nature of reality?.
// most get triggered and completely lose
analysis of elements of your quote
you started with:
– involvement
– listing of unfortunate inventors
– reality of delusional or misinformed population
and ended with
– disappointment
and that does not differ much from your own comment about me:
Quote from: onepower on July 03, 2022, 01:26:36 AM
Wesley//You started on electronics and Zenneck Waves, jumped to home appliances, touched on language and economics and ended up howling at the moon. no direction or focus //
Regards
AC
I love your comments, thank you very much.all of those
famous losers in FE had knowledge experience in agenda targeting specified goal - get/getting money.
But most of you are disappointed critics with no background or willingness to get one.
hobbyists differ from involved scientists not much, collecting knowledge on the fly, enhancing their formative assessment,
– professionalism by choice and desire and pleasure of being, seeing, touching, experiencing
despite the outcome.real involved hobbyists are not losers. – while Joe Schmoe rather goes to Bahamas
All the rest of the guys in FE are likely just losers, total losers and/or unfulfilled opportunists.
Wesley
Quote from: pix on July 03, 2022, 06:36:26 AM
Yep.
3 pages ago I asked question regarding diodes in Stepanov resonant transformer.
Pix
I responded to your question.
https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg568349/#msg568349 (https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg568349/#msg568349)
Long story needed to qualify Stepanov resonant transformer. as
–not important to evaluators,
– rejected by investor requesting from Stefanov to approach Akula.
– I didn't see device other than on video, no schematic was presented to me.
After you have got my answer, we switched focus to other areas,
did you expect this topic to end, right up to your question?
Wesley
Does this concept of a wind turbine without moving parts have the right to life?
stivep
Quoteall of those famous losers in FE had knowledge experience in agenda targeting specified goal - get/getting money.
But most of you are disappointed critics with no background or willingness to get one.
hobbyists differ from involved scientists not much, collecting knowledge on the fly, enhancing their formative assessment,
– professionalism by choice and desire and pleasure of being, seeing, touching, experiencing despite the outcome.
real involved hobbyists are not losers. – while Joe Schmoe rather goes to Bahamas
All the rest of the guys in FE are likely just losers, total losers and/or unfulfilled opportunists.
Famous losers, like Moray, Schauberger, Figuera, Tesla and others?. As Tesla once said "'The present is theirs; the future, for which I really worked, is mine". Tesla nailed it didn't he?, I mean he and his work are more popular and relevant than ever. Now countless new inventors are developing new FE technologies and crediting people like Tesla as there inspiration. So Tesla was correct and while countless others in history were forgotten he was not. As Tesla implied, all the psychotic assholes working against him are buried and forgotten yet he and his work remains...
Regards
AC
Finally found out what is the key of Stepanov, Striebkov ect. resonant power amplifiers. :D
Series resonance.
3 transformers.
1st trafo secondary + matched capacitor---connected to primary of 2nd step down transformer, secondary + matched capacitor------connected to 3rd step down transformer.
We have two resonant tanks cascaded.
First one have Q1 greater than 1, second one have Q2 greater than 1 . Total amplification is Q1 x Q2>1
Series resonance increases voltage, that's why step down transformers.
Of course variation of setups are present, Stepanov is little different from Strebkov but main idea is the same.
The same did Kapanadze in Turkey.
3 Tesla coils firing sparks from top terminals to step down HV transformers.
I am going to implement that idea, I have in my backyard old distribution trafo 11kv/380v , 100Kva ,50Hz. Will be ideal for 3rd step down transformer.
Cheers,
Pix
Quote from: pix on July 06, 2022, 10:50:48 AM
Finally found out what is the key of Stepanov, Striebkov ect. resonant power amplifiers. :D
First one have Q1 greater than 1, second one have Q2 greater than 1 . Total amplification is Q1 x Q2>1
simply answer the question:
amplification of what?Quote from: pix on July 06, 2022, 10:50:48 AM
firing sparks from top terminals to step down HV transformers.
sparks are impulses.
Having high voltage transformers powered by impulses you may have light from light bulbs manifesting
increased level of luminosity at half power used, due to slow time of tungsten cooling.
And if impulses will be delivered frequently faster than human eyes perception,
–we may think we got an amplification, and investors might foolishly invest money.
A similar effect is used in motion picture, were speed of moving individual frames makes eyes
think that it is a "real-time" motion.
Wesley
@Stivep
Amplification of voltage in series resonant tank, stepped down to increase current.
RU2517378C1 - Resonance power amplifier - Google Patents (https://patents.google.com/patent/RU2517378C1/en)
Quote:
Having high voltage transformers powered by impulses you may have light from light bulbs manifesting[/size]increased level of luminosity at half power used, due to slow time of tungsten cooling.And if impulses will be delivered frequently faster than human eyes perception,–we may think we got an amplification, and investors might foolishly invest money.
Tesla transformer is electromagnetic energy trap, it collects damped oscillations from primary resonant tank. That collected energy is fired off the top terminal through HV step down transformer.
Cheers,
Pix
Quote from: pix on July 06, 2022, 03:51:56 PM
@Stivep
Tesla transformer is electromagnetic energy trap, it collects damped oscillations from primary resonant tank. That collected energy is fired off the top terminal through HV step down transformer.
Tesla transformer
is not an electromagnetic energy trap,
Tesla transformer is a high-frequency high-voltage resonant transformer,
having it's resonant frequency at specified boundaries called bandwidth.
It may act as a transmitter or receiver but never as both.
word "bandwidth" here means:a range of frequencies of the filter
at resonance used for transmitting a signal.
–were word "filter" stands for for circuit in resonance: example – transformer in resonance.
word "resonant" here means: resonant frequency that is the frequency at which resonance happens.picture it as a corridor having certain width ( bandwidth. ) where all doors are open,
and only e.g six people (frequencies) next to each other can pass .
interpretation:
in your quote from above I see nonessential inconsistency.
secondary winding of Tesla coil dumps oscillations and those left overs are then delivered to the spark gap
having more losses.
And all of it is powered from the electrical grid._____________________________________________________________________
Quote from: pix on July 06, 2022, 03:51:56 PM
collects damped oscillations from primary resonant tank.
The reduction in amplitude (or energy) of an
oscillator is called
damping and the
oscillation are said to be
damped.
in other words we talk about losses, – not about gains
for example if your girlfriend dumps you, it's your loss(however sometime you may gain in the long run )
so collecting losses in primary resonant tank is not a gain, but is collecting leftovers.
those who are amazed with something that is
greater than unity may read this:
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/4050644?arnumber=4050644
(https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/4050644?arnumber=4050644)https://www.oldfriend.url.tw/article/IEEE_paper
/Synthesis%20of%20Passive%20RC%20Networks%20with%20Gains.pdf (https://www.oldfriend.url.tw/article/IEEE_paper/Synthesis%20of%20Passive%20RC%20Networks%20with%20Gains.pdf)
I didn't analyze the patent yet,
https://patents.google.com/patent/RU2517378C1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/RU2517378C1/en)
backed by prestigious Russian educational facility
Всероссийский научно-исследовательский институт электрификации сельского хозяйства Российской академии сельскохозяйственных наук (ГНУ ВИЭСХ Россельхозакадемии)
Application filed by
Dmitry Semenovich Strebkov, Rudolf Klavdievich Katorgin,
State Scientific Institution All-Russian Research Institute of Electrification of Agriculture
of the Russian Academy of Agricultural Sciences (GNU VIESKh rosselkhozakademiya) but it is very interesting dynamic system, were gain depends from the load.
however knowing Russian reality of crooks, and corruption everything is possible including
patents standing about "overunity"
Wesley.
@kolbacict
Quote from: kolbacict on July 03, 2022, 11:37:10 AM
Does this concept of a wind turbine without moving parts have the right to life?
Is there an English version of the "Power.pdf" file that you posted?
I don't know. Maybe not.
you translate with a translator.
There, in general, we are talking about the fact that the wind does
work by moving ionized air against the Coulomb forces.
By adding energy (voltage)
There is one drawback, it will not work in the rain.
Quote from: stivep on July 06, 2022, 09:29:31 PM
Tesla transformer is not an electromagnetic energy trap,
Tesla transformer is a high-frequency high-voltage resonant transformer,
having it's resonant frequency at specified boundaries called bandwidth.
The reduction in amplitude (or energy) of an oscillator is called damping and the oscillation are said to be damped.
in other words we talk about losses, – not about gains
for example if your girlfriend dumps you, it's your loss(however sometime you may gain in the long run )
so collecting losses in primary resonant tank is not a gain, but is collecting leftovers.
Wesley.
I do not agree.
Tesla secondary is quarter wave helical transmission line where energy from primary LC tank is ACCUMULATED.
So, my description of "primary LC tank oscillations damping" means that those oscillations are damped INTO Tesla secondary.
We do not loose those oscillations from primary, they do not damps for nothing, they damps into COLLECTOR- Tesla secondary.
That's why I named Tesla secondary as "energy trap".
Tesla himself said that we should thank God that we have oscillations. And we can do something with it.
"Oscillations" are the property of Nature( LC tank in that example) and we can do something with them. We charge capacitor ONCE and let that charge oscillate between L and C many times before it dies out. And we can collect some of that oscillating energy.
I went through few Strebkov patents. For sure he is not a dumb man. Many of his patents are closely related to Tesla.
Stepanov, Strebkov method is straightforward. Raise voltage by series resonant LC tank ( the higher Q of the circuit the better)- and step that voltage down with step down transformer, to get useable current. Process can be cascaded to get more useable current.
Another very interesting work is done by Xiaodong Liu and his work in the area of "retarded resonance".
This guy is not a dumb one , Department of Nuclear Physics, China Institute of Atomic Energy.
Publication is attached below.
The door to collect some energy into useable form lies in resonance. This is my opinion.
Enough of disputes.
Once I test it I will post the results.
Cheers,
Pix
Quote from: pix on July 07, 2022, 04:25:27 AM
I do not agree.
The door to collect some energy into useable form lies in resonance. This is my opinion.
Cheers,
Pix
You have the right to disagree.
can you provide me with the link to revelations?
Quote from: pix on July 07, 2022, 04:25:27 AM
Tesla himself said that we should thank God that we have oscillations.
God is not recognized by physics, but Albert Einstein is more respected in this area.
– so can you provide me with more respectable source,
individual, entity?
Quote from: pix on July 07, 2022, 04:25:27 AM
I went through few Strebkov patents. For sure he is not a dumb man.
I agree with you 100%.
however:
Quote from: stivep on July 07, 2022, 10:49:37 AM
23.https://patents.google.com/patent/RU2517378C1/enResonance (https://patents.google.com/patent/RU2517378C1/enResonance)
power amplifier Russian:
may or may not be valuable, - needs to be evaluated as everything that is Russian origin.
Concept known from American magnetic amplifiers from 50ties.
Russians may just deform original design and submit it as their own.
the best joke of "some Russians" is : "I'm innocent"
https://youtu.be/l4XTAwu668M?t=108 (https://youtu.be/l4XTAwu668M?t=108) (in russian)
English subtitles . ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER
:)
Wesley.
Quote from: stivep on July 07, 2022, 12:47:32 PM
You have the right to disagree.
can you provide me with the link to revelations?God is not recognized by physics, but Albert Einstein is more respected in this area.
– so can you provide me with more respectable source,
individual, entity?I agree with you 100%.
however:
:)
Wesley.
Here we go again, ping-pong play on the words.
1.Tesla is recognized scientist, and his famous quote is attached below.
2. Do not underestimate russian scientists. It is sign of arrogance. Some of them are crooks, some of them are not.
3.You didn't respond regarding Xiaodong Liu papers on energy multiplication in retarded resonance. Is he also crook? From where is coming energy gain described in 2 attached papers below this message?
4.Any comments on Strebkov patent from my previous post? COP in patent example is 5,4. 1kW in- 5,4kW out at 50Hz. See attached below.
Cheers,
Pix
in regards to link In PDF:
The Effect of Retarded Phase Factor in
Single Wire Power Transmission
Xiaodong Liu1*, Qichang Liang1, Yu Liang2
1. Department of Nuclear Physics, China Institute of Atomic Energy, P.O. Box
275(10), Beijing 102413, China
2. Pangeo Corporation, 2005 Black Acre Dr., Oldcastle ON, N0R 1L0, Canada
* Email: liuxiaod@gmail.com link is located at the very bottom of your post
Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL (https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg568656/#msg568656) «
Reply #494 on: Today at 10:25:27 AM »
_________________________________________________________ in that article of that Chinese scientific facility there are some quotes:
QuoteNikola Tesla invented the technology of single wire power transmission in 1897
Tesla patent listed in .1
at the bottom of mentioned PDF (please download it)
Here is a quote from the patent
Patent No. 593,138, dated November 2, 1897. :
Quotethat is to say, the inner or center end of what corresponds to the secondary of the first will be connected to line and the other end to earth
https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-593138-electrical-transformer (https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-593138-electrical-transformer)
by that your statement is incorrect.
Patent of Tesla, states about "two wire system", were the EARTH serve a reactive – capacitive in nature
element. so yes – there is physically only one wire
it is explained in point number 2.
explanation:
1. in electric systems of commercial electricity –single wire transmission
stands for two wire system were EARTH is one of the wires.–
earth return system.
QuoteThe single-wire transmission line is not the same as the single-wire earth return system
2. Tesla's non-return wire – one wire system ( "transmission line" ) a return circuit by virtue of the load's self-capacitance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-capacitance) and parasitic capacitance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitic_capacitance).
[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-wire_transmission_line#cite_note-3)[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-wire_transmission_line#cite_note-4)Quotewere the EARTH serve a reactive – capacitive in nature
element.
3. the true single wire transmission line that does not require any ground.
It operates based on electromagnetic wave traveling in the two dimensional interface
(form of waveguide) between a wire and
it's dielectric coating – 1899, Arnold Sommerfeld (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Sommerfeld) Single cylindrical conductor (wire) to propagate radio frequency (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_frequency) energy as a surface wave (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_wave).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-wire_transmission_line (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-wire_transmission_line)
that system was later improved by Goubau line
I
Quoten 1950 Georg Goubau revisited Sommerfeld's discovery of a surface wave mode along a wire, but with the intent of increasing its practicality.[8] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-wire_transmission_line#cite_note-8)
3a.E-LineQuoteE-Line From 2003 through 2008 patents were filed for a system using Sommerfeld's original bare (uncoated) wire, but employing a launcher similar to that developed by Goubau.[12] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-wire_transmission_line#cite_note-12)[13] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-wire_transmission_line#cite_note-13) It was promoted under the name "E-Line" through 2009.[14] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-wire_transmission_line#cite_note-14)
U.S. Patent 7,009,471 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US7009471), "Method and apparatus for launching a surfacewave onto a single conductor transmission line using a slotted flared cone". Glenn E. Elmore
U.S. Patent 7,567,154 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US7567154), " Surface wave transmission system over a single conductor having E-fields terminating along the conductor " Glenn E. Elmore
------------------------------------------------
conclusion:those three systems are loosely related three different systems.
Those systems do not contain , structural elements using
different principles of operation.
please keep in mind to avoid problems with interpretation.
Wesley
this post is continuation of my post from above.
Importance of point 3:
1899, Arnold Sommerfeld (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Sommerfeld) and 1950 Georg Goubau revisit to Sommerfeld's discovery of a surface wave mode along a wire,
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Goubau (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Goubau)
was the base for Dr. James Corum patents
http://teslasociety.com/corum.htm (http://teslasociety.com/corum.htm)
https://patents.justia.com/inventor/james-f-corum (https://patents.justia.com/inventor/james-f-corum)
causing my work published here:
Topics targeting very much specified subject matter.
one is in English another in Russian:
1.https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560346/#msg560346 (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560346/#msg560346)2.
https://overunity.com/18913/in-russian-ekspierimienty-po-biesprovodnoi-pieriedachie-enierghii-doska-stroitieliei/msg560156/#msg560156 (https://overunity.com/18913/in-russian-ekspierimienty-po-biesprovodnoi-pieriedachie-enierghii-doska-stroitieliei/msg560156/#msg560156)
but for easiness start to read from here:
Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg560541/#msg560541)
« Reply #3385 on: September 25, 2021, 05:47:03 PM »
generally my work is about extracting energy from Schumann waveguide
using intellectual art listed in this and previous post with addition of my own
released to you voluntarily by me.
you may use it or lose it it's your choice
Wesley
As usual that topic derailed, my questions are covered by tons of loosely related info.
In fact, I didn't expected a simple and short reply related to my two last posts.
I am going to put into test Strebkov setup with 3 trafo and series resonance.
Need to collect more capacitors .
Cheers,
Pix
Quote from: pix on July 07, 2022, 01:38:40 PM
1.Tesla is recognized scientist, and his famous quote is attached below.
2. Do not underestimate russian scientists. It is sign of arrogance. Some of them are crooks, some of them are not.
3.You didn't respond regarding Xiaodong Liu papers on energy multiplication in retarded resonance.
4.Any comments on Strebkov patent from my previous post? COP in patent example is 5,4. 1kW in- 5,4kW out at 50Hz. See attached below.
Cheers,
Pix
ad1.
You are absolutely right, however some technical expressions from past century(e.g the word: retarded) are often improperly interpreted. That is why I explained some more
in regards to Tesla patent and to Chinese paper.
_____________________________________________________________ad2.
Quote from: pix on July 07, 2022, 01:38:40 PM
2. Do not underestimate russian scientists. It is sign of arrogance.
You are absolutely right. With all do respect to Russian nation,
There is a value in Russian science that is unfortunately
covered with all negatives.
this is United States of America not Russia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
for shopping we don't go to Siberia supermarket
we go to nearest New York quality quantity and value.!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: pix on July 07, 2022, 01:38:40 PM
Some of them are crooks, some of them are not.
are you going to argue who is lesser of the crook and who is not or totally not?
If somebody is shitting all around, he's unlikely to be honored
by
civilized Western word of scientific values!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! how many scientists or scientists to be, were killed in Ukraine for 4.5 months by Russians. ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ?around 150,000 of civilians - Ukrainians were killed, tortured, cut fingers, shot at the back of his /her head.
is it the Russian culture you're talking about?
is that the Russian value you talking about?
and it wasn't the first time, my grandpa escaped Katyn, hiding in the hole full of human excrement's
while Russian was shitting on him;
now think about that Russian shooting in the back of the head 22,000 people one by one and often two of them to save on bullets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre)and I escaped alive with Tariel Kapanadze in 2011.
do you have courage to respond to that?
_____________________________________________________________ad3.
Xiaodong Liu papers stands about:
-Single Wire Power Transmission not power multiplication.
–retarded phase factor that also exists in single wire
that relates link .2" quote:
QuoteIn retarded resonance, the energy extracted from the source is determined by the retarded phase on the route.
QuoteConclusion
In a single wire power transmission system, the current and voltage propagate along the
wire via the wave of electric density. The effective resistance of load is negative when the
wire length is ¼ of wavelength. In this case, the loading current acts like a driving source
to charge the transmitter. This technology can be used in the field of electric power
generation.
there is no single word in the paper standing about power multiplication.
it only says:
QuoteThe effective resistance of load seen
from the power source is negative. In this case, the phase of I1(t) is inverted relative to the
phase of U1(t) and the electric power would flow into instead of out of the source.
but all of it is done locally and at the expense of external power supply.note:
only in number 3 it says about energy multiplication.
I was not commenting that link yet.
so all of the above is related to link .2 listed by you.
below you have all four links from the article.
References
[1] Nikola Tesla, US Patent No. 593138 (1897)
[2] Xiaodong Liu, Qichang Liang, Yu Liang, The Retarded Phase Factor in Wireless
Power Transmission, July 2011, http://www.vixra.org/abs/1107.0029 (http://www.vixra.org/abs/1107.0029)
[3] Qichang Liang, Yu Liang, Xiaodong Liu, Energy Multiplier in Retarded Resonance,
April 2011, http://www.vixra.org/pdf/1104.0052v1.pdf (http://www.vixra.org/pdf/1104.0052v1.pdf)
[4] Qichang Liang, Yu Liang, Xiaodong Liu, The Retarded Energy Transmission in
Remote Resonance, Sciencepaper Online, No. 200908-176, August 2009,
http://www.paper.edu.cn/index.php/default/releasepaper/downPaper/200908-176 (http://www.paper.edu.cn/index.php/default/releasepaper/downPaper/200908-176)
ad4.
I didn't analyze and I don't have yet comments on Strebkov patent.
I need to find some time to respond to:
– [3] Qichang Liang, Yu Liang, Xiaodong Liu, Energy Multiplier in Retarded Resonance,
April 2011, http://www.vixra.org/pdf/1104.0052v1.pdf
(http://www.vixra.org/pdf/1104.0052v1.pdf)I've seen this link for the first time only 10 minutes ago.
and
–https://patents.google.com/patent/RU2517378C1/enResonanceWesley
Excuse me asking but are you talking about transverse waves or longitudinal (which isn't a wave more a shove or a pull )or one to the other and back ?
Sil
Quote from: AlienGrey on July 07, 2022, 05:23:05 PM
Excuse me asking but are you talking about transverse waves or longitudinal (which isn't a wave more a shove or a pull )or one to the other and back ?
Sil
QuoteTransverse and longitudinal are two different types of waves. The main difference between transverse and longitudinal waves is that in transverse waves, oscillations occur perpendicular to the direction of propagation of the wave, whereas in longitudinal waves, oscillations occur parallel to the direction of propagation of the wave.
https://pediaa.com/difference-between-transverse-and-longitudinal-waves/
electromagnetic waves are transverse waves and I'm talking about transverse waves only.
Wesley
What effects does parallel LC resonance (sinusoidal) have on coupled inductors?
Quote from: stivep on July 07, 2022, 03:56:06 PM
ad1.
do you have courage to respond to that?
_____________________________________________________________
References
[1] Nikola Tesla, US Patent No. 593138 (1897)
[2] Xiaodong Liu, Qichang Liang, Yu Liang, The Retarded Phase Factor in Wireless
Power Transmission, July 2011, http://www.vixra.org/abs/1107.0029 (http://www.vixra.org/abs/1107.0029)
[3] Qichang Liang, Yu Liang, Xiaodong Liu, Energy Multiplier in Retarded Resonance,
April 2011, http://www.vixra.org/pdf/1104.0052v1.pdf (http://www.vixra.org/pdf/1104.0052v1.pdf)
[4] Qichang Liang, Yu Liang, Xiaodong Liu, The Retarded Energy Transmission in
Remote Resonance, Sciencepaper Online, No. 200908-176, August 2009,
http://www.paper.edu.cn/index.php/default/releasepaper/downPaper/200908-176 (http://www.paper.edu.cn/index.php/default/releasepaper/downPaper/200908-176)
ad4.
I didn't analyze and I don't have yet comments on Strebkov patent.
I need to find some time to respond to:
– [3] Qichang Liang, Yu Liang, Xiaodong Liu, Energy Multiplier in Retarded Resonance,
April 2011, http://www.vixra.org/pdf/1104.0052v1.pdf
(http://www.vixra.org/pdf/1104.0052v1.pdf)I've seen this link for the first time only 10 minutes ago.
and
–https://patents.google.com/patent/RU2517378C1/enResonance
Wesley
.1 I am still expecting the response from you in regards to comment about Russian science and Russian values.
.2 I do thank you very much for your contribution about Chinese papers.
.3 thanks to your contribution I was able to get to a mine of extremely valuable papers.
Explanation:
Schumann frequency is the key to energy for free FE.
Frequency from 7 Hz to 17 kHz is where the access to that energy is.
I'm moving my activity to one of three of my topics simply because it is too important,
and may become important to some Russian trolls.
I gladly invite you and anybody else there.
Wesley
Quote from: alan on July 08, 2022, 05:58:50 AM
What effects does parallel LC resonance (sinusoidal) have on coupled inductors?
Alan are you talking about a ladder net work ? with the coils as the rungs
and the capacitors as running the length in series or the reverse ?
Sil
..
Quote from: pix on July 07, 2022, 01:38:40 PM
Here we go again, ping-pong play on the words.
2. Do not underestimate russian scientists. It is sign of arrogance.
Some of them are crooks, some of them are not.
talking about your own value,
you run
like a
chicken with its head cut off .
for the third time being asked to respond
to my comment here:
Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL (https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg568678/#msg568678) «
Reply #500 on: July 07, 2022, 09:56:06 PM »
__________________________________________________________________
Quote from: pix on July 07, 2022, 01:38:40 PM
3.You didn't respond regarding Xiaodong Liu papers on energy multiplication in retarded resonance.
Is he also crook?
From where is coming energy gain described in 2 attached papers below this message?
4.Any comments on Strebkov patent from my previous post? COP in patent example is 5,4. 1kW in- 5,4kW out at 50Hz. See attached below.
Cheers,
Pix
evaluating, and socially elevating those articles takes time that in here in New York is a value:
I can donate my time and knowledge, and provide you with answers but I need to know
that I'm not talking to thin air with bunch of football fans bored with physics,
who are feeling weary and impatient because they are unoccupied or have lacks interest in their current activity.
Music, painting, poetry, is written to the public and emotional reward (plus more) is there, - from public response.
so I'll act for free but need your response.
explanation for typical Russian
"Show Me the
Money!" is:
You have nobody to answer your question for free!!!!
you want money? - I can show you where the money is!!!!!!
Check out our
freaking talk to me selection
✓or stay in your Russian deep s.
I need interaction noted– "my time is not wasted!!!"
:)
Wesley
Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg568722/#msg568722) « Reply #3728 on: Today at 08:09:43 PM »
Wesley
Long story short my comp went up in smoke the other day literally, second hand mini-pc with passive cooling, this summer hotness + mains voltage varied that day. Ordered another second hand one then realized it has no HDMI then ordered an adapter then realized it does not recognize my hard disks, then finally had to get a new one.
I see stivep did not waste time to deceive and distract, business as usual. :)
Quote from: stivep on June 28, 2022, 02:26:39 PM
ether/ eather BS
Overunity
Perpetual motion
all of it doesn't exist and is likely spread by some government sponsored Russian trolls domain
or by nix85
There is ether, literally so, Earth is surrounded by this substance and it's density decreases as we go farther into space. And it's of multiple kinds, one kind is particularly responsible for converting sun's odic rays into hertzian light. ETC
Quote
The device on the video was not grounded, nor a device from other video.
However there is something apart from B.S of Dr "whoever"
This frequency 9,574 Hz is in the range of comfortable frequencies for Dr James Corum and my own energy extraction from Schumann waveguide.
Q:So how he did it?
A:Magician knows his tricks.
Wesley
Ph, you "know" if it was not grounded. Stop pushing for your hertzian disinfo agenda. As Tesla himself said, "i don't work with hertzian waves", which are an undesirable waste, we are after the night side forces which might be termed dark energy in conventional terminology, the negative gravity and related streams, there is a whole spectrum of these non-hertzian waves.
Quote
Physics doesn't recognize God.
True physics stems from knowledge of God and of One Substance / One Force. Approaching from unity perspective is the key to Nature's penetralia.
Quote
Unfortunately according to current physics,not much of this exotic BS is possible:
Overunity- not possible
Perpetual motion machine -not possible
ether/ eather - doesn't exist
time travel, - not possible
antigravity - not possible
Wesley
bs
bs
bs
bs
bs
Quote
Magnets can do free work,
No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm sorry magnet cannot work -at all
Disinfo.
Quote
did you notice that nix85 was Last Active: June 27, 2022, 08:12:28 PM.
He is likely from émigrés of Russian family - with good English from St. John's Newfoundland Labrador Canada region.
it looks like Putin didn't deliver money on time (joke).
Am not Russian neither do i speak Russian (except some (root) words considering it is also a Slavic tongue). Seems Putin is sending regular checks to New York (joke?)
Quote
Why can't magnetism be used as a source of energy?
It can and it is all the time. Magnet is but a water tap for the etheric streams of certain order and can be tapped as a source of energy as they are in so many OU devices.
Quote
I will not waste your time, by redirecting your attention into some Russian B.S of desinformation.
You been promoting Russain FE videos for 10+ years, all those videos are being watched right now on your youtube channel, but you will not bla bla... If it's real it's not waste of time, i linked few Russian videos cause they are real, saying that this is disinformation is itself the worst kind of disinformation. Nothing new.
Quote
Schumann frequency is the key to energy for free FE.
Frequency from 7 Hz to 17 kHz is where the access to that energy is.
Phhh. No frequency range is the key and big gains can happen at any frequency, as low as 50Hz or even below or as high as terahertz and beyond. This has NOTHING to do with Schuman, Hans Coler determined frequency of ferromagnetism at 180KHz, Don Smith and many others worked above and below it. It's not about any special frequency as much as it is about resonance and particular configurations of connecting things.
If you want a "special frequency" then think of 5-6KHz,
Thomas Moray, Edwin Gray and Steven Mark used it.
But again, there is no special frequency since it can work at any
as well as it can not work at any.
@Wlwy (Zily) I know you're reading, that's good, you should learn. :)
Remember how you posted that guy with same pole ferrite rings attracting (apparently).
I replicated it few days ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AdMe85hwnE
And no, same poles do not attract. The thing is ferrite is weak and easily
demagnetized. As it get's partially and asymmetrically demagnetized and
even polarity flipped around the ring it is possible, by spinning one relative
to the other find a sweet spot where they 'attract' but it's not strong and
quite unstable.
And no, it's not cause one edge is broken off. I had the similar effect happen
before it broke off, maybe it did help it a bit, but it can be done without.
Good point onepower, from Daniel Cook who indeed spent 35 years studying
magnetism before allegedly stumbling upon the scalar effects, to Tesla and
all the others, it is so simple a child can understand......yes, but at the same
time SOOOO FREAKING DELICATE a team of 150,000 scientists may wander
in circles for eons and not get it if they don't know EXACTLY how.
All of you.
Do what all doing, you are get what all have.
Thinking out of the box or looking over the edge of your round table !
When time is ready, mankind will connecting to nature, but first understand nature.
Quote from: nix85 on July 10, 2022, 01:52:51 PM
There is ether,//Earth is surrounded by this substance and it's density decreases as we go farther into space. // of multiple kinds, one kind is particularly responsible for converting sun's odic rays into hertzian light. ETC
science rejected ether that's why you can't:"
-list its properties,
-explain its interaction nor provide any credible links.
Quote from: nix85 on July 10, 2022, 01:52:51 PM
True physics stems from knowledge of God and of One Substance / One Force. Approaching from unity perspective is the key to Nature's penetralia.
There is no terms/ meaning- "True Physics"
science rejected to recognize God that's why
you can't:"
-list God's properties,
-explain God interaction nor provide any scientific credible physics/al links
-science explains processes and doesn't keep it secret as oppose to unrecognized by it "God"
___________________________________________________
ether/ eather , Overunity, Perpetual motion
-all of it doesn't exist and you can't:
-list its properties,
-explain its interaction nor provide any credible links,
-you can't even explain why you are calling science
opposing that nonsense :
Quote from: nix85 on July 10, 2022, 01:52:51 PM
Disinfo. bs
Quote from: nix85 on July 10, 2022, 01:52:51 PM
You been promoting Russan FE videos for 10+ years,
there is a technical value in you, and in some Russians too.
Quote from: nix85 on July 10, 2022, 01:52:51 PM
Magnet is but a water tap for the etheric streams of certain order and can be tapped as a source of energy as they are in so many OU devices.
If Ether doesn't exist and you can't provide credible scientific info/proof than
"etheric streams" can't exist too.
Quote from: nix85 on July 10, 2022, 01:52:51 PM
Hans Coler determined frequency of ferromagnetism at 180KHz
look here: Deterministic switching of ferromagnetism at room temperature using an electric field https://www.nature.com/articles/nature14004 (https://www.nature.com/articles/nature14004)
Quote17.12.2014 · This was superimposed with a 2 V peak-to-peak amplitude, applied at both the normal cantilever contact resonance frequency of approximately 1.8 MHz,
Quote from: nix85 on July 10, 2022, 01:52:51 PMPhhh. No frequency range is the key and big gains
~Frequency from 7 Hz to 17 kHz is where the access to that energy is, due to low losses of EM energy in the interface and in TM mode.
Your problem nix85 is in :
- your statements without supported by science explanation:
Dog barking on the street is possibly making some unexplained statements too. ( joke)
Wesley
Jo-EL < Broken english aside, there's another one playing the i know it
you don't games, ironic and comical.
@nix85
Ich weiß das Du nix ( = NICHTS ) weisst = I know that you know nothing ( from this thuff )
Ich spiele nicht ich forsche ! = I don't play, i am in reseach !
Und ja, Englisch ist nicht meine Muttersprache = And yes, english is not my native language.
Darüber hinaus antworte ich nicht mehr auf so Scheiß Bemerkungen !!!
Quote from: stivep on July 11, 2022, 10:01:49 AM
science rejected ether that's why you can't:"
-list its properties,
-explain its interaction nor provide any credible links.
"Science" you refer to is fundamentally a joke.
You are either amazingly blind or a shill, there is no third option.
Ether is absolute certainty, and as i said, it's of multiple types, as it is written
in Etidorhpa:
""Do you say that the atmosphere is composed of substances unknown to man?"
"Yes; several of them are gases, and
others are qualities of space condition, neither gas, liquid, nor solid. One particularly interferes with light in its passage. It is an entity that is not moved by the motion of the air, and is unequally distributed over the earth's surface. As we ascend above the earth it decreases, so it does as we descend into it. It is not vapor of water, is neither smoke, nor a true gas, and is as yet sensible to man only by its power of modifying the intensity of light. It has no color, is chemically inactive, and yet modifies the sun's rays so as to blot objects from view at a comparatively small distance from a person on the face of the earth. That this fact is known to man is evident from the knowledge he possesses of the difference in the power of his organs of vision at different parts of the earth. His sight is especially acute on the table lands of the Western Territories.""
And something i already shared on the forum...
A little bit from Oahspe telling few important things well known in occult circles, that light we see is created in the atmosphere and that there are various strata, plateaus of the vortex surrounding the Earth, these are the 7 astral shells i talked about.
Earth, Needles in the Atmosphere, and Plateaus.
When Jehovih condensed the earth, and it became firm and crusted over, there rose up from the earth heat and moisture, which continue to this day. But Jehovih limited the ascent of the substances going upward, and the boundary of the limit of moisture was the same as the clouds that float in the air; and the heat was of similar ascent. And while the moisture and heat rise upward, they are met by the etheric substance of the vortex of the earth, and the moisture and the gases of the air assume the form of needles. On the side of the earth facing the sun the needles are polarized and acting, driving forth, which is called light; but on the face of the earth opposite from the sun the needles are in confusion, and this is called darkness. Jehovih said: So that man may comprehend the structure of the belt that holds the earth, I will give him a sign high up in the air. And Jehovih caused the vapor in the firmament to be frozen and fall to the earth, white, and it is called snow. For the snowflake shows the matrix in which it is molded. Jehovih said: Let this be a sign also, that even as heat and moisture rise up from the earth, so are there representatives of all things on the earth which have also evaporated upward, and all such things rise up to the level of density that is like themselves, every one to its own level, and they take their places in the strata of the vortex. These are called plateaus; or spheres, for they surround the whole earth. Some of them are ten miles high, some a thousand, some a hundred thousand or more miles. And all these spheres that rotate and travel with the earth are called atmospherea, or lower heavens.
As I made a limit to the ascent of clouds, so I made a limit to the places of the different kinds of substances in atmospherea; the more subtle and potent to the rim, and the more dense and impotent nearer to the earth.
According to the condition of these different plateaus in atmospherea, whether they are near the earth or high above, |65| so shall the spirit of man take its place in the first heaven; |66| according to his diet, desires and behavior, so shall he dwell in spirit on the plateau to which he has adapted himself during his earth life.
Earth and Plateaus of Lower Heaven. E, Etherea; B, periphery of the earth's vortex. This line was called by the ancients the Bridge of Chinvat.* All within this area is called Atmospherea. The center circle is the earth; land mass is black; O, the ocean. 1, 2, 3, represent atmospherean plateaus on and near the earth. The O, O, O, with a line through it, represent atmospherean oceans.
*Note that to make the earth, etc., apparent, this Chinvat line is not to scale. That is, were Chinvat drawn in actual proportion to the shown size of the earth, the B line would be drawn some 30 of earth's diameters distant from the center of the earth."......
There is no question if there is an ether,
Aspden effect is relatively well known in OU community, i read skeptical forums,
they tried to explain it away by the fact that heated ball bearing will have less
resistance :) I am sure you will favor this "explanation"
http://exo-science.com/aspden.html
http://villesresearch.com/ether.html
Then you have Etheric Rainmaking with Trevor James Constable
Watch it, slowly, fully, attentively. Then you will have to decide,
either it's a hoax or there is ether.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjeUhQJp5WE
How long are you gonna live in silly denial of the obvious.
QuoteThere is no terms/ meaning- "True Physics"
science rejected to recognize God that's why you can't:"
-list God's properties,
-explain God interaction nor provide any scientific credible physics/al links
-science explains processes and doesn't keep it secret as oppose to unrecognized by it "God"
What you call God is not something outside you nor is there such thing as "outside".
You are IT, and it's easy to know it if you withdraw attention...
...beyond linear time (and space), beyond mind, it takes no effort, it's already there,
silent background, still awareness, isness, being, it's not a philosophy or a belief,
it is the source of all, the driving power, the only true reality. But forget about
spiritual realization just by withdrawing from linear time, ultimate bliss is not
attained easily. Most of us at best see but glimpses of it from time to time.
"Science" that does not approach from the God-side, from source-downward, even
if it stumbles at certain effects will always be extremely limited and flawed to the core.
Quote
___________________________________________________
ether/ eather , Overunity, Perpetual motion
-all of it doesn't exist and you can't:
-list its properties,
-explain its interaction nor provide any credible links,
-you can't even explain why you are calling science
opposing that nonsense
It all exists and properties are well known and explainable by those in the know,
surely not to you.
I know it surely exists and that it's of various kinds and that it creates light and
heat, influences weather, affects what we call weight, is closely related to vitaly etc.
It is a whole new (old) science, only TRUE science.
Look how he sleazily insists on "credible links". He knows well this stuff is far
removed from what is commonly called "credible" or "peer reviewed", but in
vain, ether IS.
QuoteIf Ether doesn't exist and you can't provide credible scientific info/proof than "etheric streams" can't exist too.
As long as you deny the ether you will live in denial of true science.
Quotelook here: Deterministic switching of ferromagnetism at room temperature using an electric field https://www.nature.com/articles/nature14004 (https://www.nature.com/articles/nature14004)
Random unrelated article that does not even mention frequency of any kind.
Quote
~Frequency from 7 Hz to 17 kHz is where the access to that energy is, due to low losses of EM energy in the interface and in TM mode.
Phh. Losses depend on the core, in electrical steel they become
too high above 500Hz yet in ferrite they are low even at many MHz.
What you say is nonsense, has no relation to reality. Danger is some noob might
fall for your deception. How many have you lead into the hertzian death, how many lights have you destroyed. God knows.
QuoteYour problem nix85 is in :
- your statements without supported by science explanation:
Dog barking on the street is possibly making some unexplained statements too. ( joke)
Wesley
Your problem, stivep, is you are as limited as a horse with blinders
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blinkers_(horse_tack)
What you call "science" is the bottom side of the two sided coin and that bottom
side is in the shadow and covered with filth. The upper side, the side closer to
the sunlight, which is blemish and dirt free is totally beyond your grasp.
Horse runs after a carrot cause he knows not he will never reach it that way (joke?)
Please understand - I'm not your enemy.
Quote from: nix85 on July 11, 2022, 10:14:28 AM
Jo-EL < Broken english aside,
You can find only shortcuts / abbreviations. e.g:
"physics/al links" for word:
"physical"Show me please in my text from above any broken English phrases ?
________________________________________
Quote from: nix85 on July 11, 2022, 10:14:28 AM
there's another one playing the i know it
you don't games, ironic and comical.
I assume you meant: - "your"
instead of word
"you."
or there is missing word
"are"
in phrase:
you don't games, -
"are" ironic and comical.
_________________________________________
for average reader here, my explanation and questions are precise and concise.
where is your physics based response to the "God" question?
where is your physics based response to
ether/ eather , Overunity, Perpetual motion where is your physics based response denying "Frequency from 7 Hz to 17 kHz quote."
please provide scientifically recognized links to the articles conforming your revelations.
No single answer to the previous post was provided by you, not even one.
and your last response is by that "ironic and comical."
please correct me if I'm wrong?
Wesley
Quote from: Jo-EL on July 11, 2022, 12:02:34 PM
@nix85
Ich weiß das Du nix ( = NICHTS ) weisst = I know that you know nothing ( from this thuff )
Ich spiele nicht ich forsche ! = I don't play, i am in reseach !
Und ja, Englisch ist nicht meine Muttersprache = And yes, english is not my native language.
Darüber hinaus antworte ich nicht mehr auf so Scheiß Bemerkungen !!!
Funny, i like how you describe yourself cause you indeed know nothing.
You can't even spell research, back to square one.
Quote from: stivep on July 11, 2022, 12:28:47 PM
Please understand - I'm not your enemy. You can find only shortcuts / abbreviations. e.g: "physics/al links" for word: "physical"
Show me please in my text from above any broken English phrases ?
________________________________________
Funny, i was clearly addressing the other guy, not you.
Quote
I assume you meant: - "your" instead of word "you."
or there is missing word "are"
in phrase:
you don't games, - "are" ironic and comical.
_________________________________________
No, i meant it as it's written, "playing the "i know it you don't" games"
Quote
for average reader here, my explanation and questions are precise and concise.
Again, i was not addressing you there, as for your explanation and questions
they are limited and flawed, you deny ether and many true natural phenomena.
QuoteQuote
where is your physics based response to the "God" question?
where is your physics based response to ether/ eather , Overunity, Perpetual motion
where is your physics based response denying "Frequency from 7 Hz to 17 kHz quote."
please provide scientifically recognized links to the articles conforming your revelations.
No single answer to the previous post was provided by you, not even one.
and your last response is by that "ironic and comical."
please correct me if I'm wrong?
Wesley
You always play the same silly game with everyone, claiming they did not answer
your supposed questions.
I addressed all the key points, IT IS YOU who again dodges all the points i made
and tries to derail the conversation. Aspden effect, Trevor James Constable etc
etc etc, address this.
Focus on facts, scientifically, objectively.
You deny ether, etheric streams.... you are wrong as wrong can be.
BTW Where then do you imagine Kapanadze's excess energy comes from
from nearby radio tower maybe or some other hertzian source
Quote from: nix85 on July 11, 2022, 12:03:31 PM
"Science" you refer to is fundamentally a joke.
I just got to my office. I'm responding to this part before my lunch time.
invalid argumentscience made you able to respond to me now using computer and Internet.
Quote from: nix85 on July 11, 2022, 12:03:31 PM
Aspden effect is relatively well known in OU community, i read skeptical forums,
http://exo-science.com/aspden.html (http://exo-science.com/aspden.html)
invalid argument
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Harold_Aspden (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Harold_Aspden)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Harold Aspden
Wesley
@nix85 - you startet this THREAD, but yourself let come out 90% bullshit who has nothing to do with it.
You like a baby, you found a wrong writen word -it's my gift for you - i don't wont it back !!!
If you want know more, i can give you a trail, a light of knowledge, i don't know if you notice what i wrote just a few second before you !
@stivep alias Wesley, i dont't understand your problem with the word OVERUNITY = OU ? Let me know. Will know if it's worth write with you !
@lancaIV - you write a lot of interesting things, but nobody can read all no want and it's a lot off topic !!!
I am reading from one of you that you have 10 Min a day or week you spent in overunity-forum. And all who can thinking a litle bit are seeing clear thats a big lie !!! So OUT-TOPICS and bullshit i don't answer !!! Hope you understand.
PLEASE, don't disturbing - read, think and answer, if not it's like nothing !!!
@nix85
Reply #7 and #3 the formulars a true and working but what is RESONANCE ??? !!!!! It's called OMEGA !!!!!
! 2 pi f -" SHOULD be for all "L x C" --> Xc = Xl for biggest Q but first low "XXX" than should be "infinit" !!!"
Looking for time !!! All cases but not full time ! More HINTS i don't give for TROUBLEMAKERS !!!
Good Luck
PS: change some words !!! But if you don't learning read between the lines you have no chance, USE it !!!
Quote from: stivep on July 11, 2022, 12:51:01 PM
I just got to my office. I'm responding to this part before my lunch time.
invalid argument
science made to you able to respond to me now using computer and Internet.
HA, like i am talking to a 5 year old. Are you gonna tell me about conventional
"science", ha, and how long would you last in this debate, seconds, less?
You who denied the power amplification in RLC tank and probably still deny it.
And computers, do you want me to ask you which logic gate corresponds
to which binary algebraic operation or how to construct the gates...do you want
me to ask you about internet, exactly how it works or how unlike what you
been told Russians did it first....
Apples and oranges, i made it clear it is FUNDAMENTALLY flawed, a joke, it denies
ether, it denies light is created in the atmosphere, it denies overunity or however
you call it, it denies gravity is a magnetic stream flowing into the earth vertically
and there is a polar opposite at higher frequency, it claims you would need an
energy of Jupiter to levitate a small craft yet we know it is done for nothing...
It is dark age "science", extremely limited and fundamentally flawed.
Quoteinvalid argument
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Harold_Aspden (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Harold_Aspden)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Harold Aspden
Wesley
HA, and what in that pile of nothing is supposed to "debunk" Aspden.
You just link whatever and that is supposed to be an argument.
And you have yet to make your stance on Trever James Constable rainmaking.
Quote from: Jo-EL on July 11, 2022, 12:59:45 PM
@stivep alias Wesley, i dont't understand your problem with the word OVERUNITY = OU ? Let me know. Will know if it's
Overunity doesn't exist. It is model rejected by physics.
Physics is based on models.
https://towardsdatascience.com/the-physics-of-energy-based-models-1121122d0d9 (https://towardsdatascience.com/the-physics-of-energy-based-models-1121122d0d9)
there are three sections you can read my articles here to find out if it is worth your time:
Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg560541/#msg560541) «
Reply #3385 on: September 25, 2021, 05:47:03 PM »
Topics targeting very much specified subject matter.
one is in English another in Russian:
1.https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560346/#msg560346 (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560346/#msg560346)2.
https://overunity.com/18913/in-russian-ekspierimienty-po-biesprovodnoi-pieriedachie-enierghii-doska-stroitieliei/msg560156/#msg560156 (https://overunity.com/18913/in-russian-ekspierimienty-po-biesprovodnoi-pieriedachie-enierghii-doska-stroitieliei/msg560156/#msg560156)Wesley.
Quote from: stivep on July 11, 2022, 01:15:12 PM
Overunity doesn't exist. It is old 19 century outdated model rejected by physics.
Physics is based on models.
https://towardsdatascience.com/the-physics-of-energy-based-models-1121122d0d9
there are three sections you can read my articles here to find out if it is worth your time:
Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg560541/#msg560541) « Reply #3385 on: September 25, 2021, 05:47:03 PM »
Wesley.
Stop grabbing onto stupid semantics, this is OVERUNITY.COM it is a good term and
we all know it means energy gain from open system, ambient. So drop the bs.
Quote from: nix85 on July 11, 2022, 01:17:38 PM
Stop grabbing onto stupid semantics, this is OVERUNITY.COM it is a good term and
we all know it means energy gain from open system, ambient. So drop the bs.
how do you know it? Provide scientific links you can't.
Wesley
Quote from: stivep on July 11, 2022, 01:24:19 PM
how do you know it? Provide scientific links you can't.
Wesley
Again you drag on with useless semantic thing, drop it, no one cares.
You deny ether. Focus on what i asked you
Are you calling Trevor Constable a liar, if not, how do you explain
what is shown in this doc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjeUhQJp5WE
Quote from: stivep on July 11, 2022, 01:15:12 PM
Overunity doesn't exist. It is model rejected by physics.
Physics is based on models.
https://towardsdatascience.com/the-physics-of-energy-based-models-1121122d0d9 (https://towardsdatascience.com/the-physics-of-energy-based-models-1121122d0d9)
there are three sections you can read my articles here to find out if it is worth your time:
Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg560541/#msg560541) « Reply #3385 on: September 25, 2021, 05:47:03 PM »
Topics targeting very much specified subject matter.
one is in English another in Russian:
1.https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560346/#msg560346 (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560346/#msg560346)2.
https://overunity.com/18913/in-russian-ekspierimienty-po-biesprovodnoi-pieriedachie-enierghii-doska-stroitieliei/msg560156/#msg560156 (https://overunity.com/18913/in-russian-ekspierimienty-po-biesprovodnoi-pieriedachie-enierghii-doska-stroitieliei/msg560156/#msg560156)
Wesley.
Quote from: stivep
Quote:
Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3376 on: June 27, 2021, 03:17:14 PM »
Quote
Rules for validating any and every device :
Is it hoax?
Does it work?
What is its efficiency?
___________________________________________________
Few rules that never changes:
1. overunity doesn't exist.
Wesley.
What the rules for this rule ? ??? I say for my understanding you are wrong !!! If not why you are here in """ !OVERUNITY.com!""" ?
Very simple question, why you are here ? ??? Like you to read what you wrote ? Go and write books, you would see if anybody like to read !
When you read your own writen book you may be learn, that - let speak EINSTEIN:
"Education (knowledge) is what remains after one has forgotten what one has learned in school.
Bildung ist was bleibt, nachdem man vergessen hat was man in der Schule gelernt hat.
Und / and
Sobald wir unsere Grenzen akzeptieren, gehen wir über sie hinaus." ALBERT EINSTEIN
Quote from: Jo-EL on July 11, 2022, 01:29:15 PM
What the rules for this rule ? ??? I say for my understanding you are wrong !!! If not why you are here in """ !OVERUNITY.com!""" ?
Very simple question, why you are here ? ???
Like you to read what you wrote ? Go and write books, you would see if anybody like to read !
This forum is not the club for believers, nor was made to misinform the audience.
Some individuals, spread BS for number of reasons, including Russian origin paid agenda, lack of knowledge.
I am involved in physics for over 30 years.
I'm in here, to correct BS. provide real education, avoid wasted time of researchers,
despite their scientific level.
I have no control over response of the audience, but I assume there is a lot of value in it.
Wesley
Quote from: Jo-EL on July 11, 2022, 12:59:45 PM
@nix85 - you startet this THREAD, but yourself let come out 90% bullshit who has nothing to do with it.
I am sure talking about ether is bs to you.
How would you know better.
Quote
You like a baby, you found a wrong writen word -it's my gift for you - i don't wont it back !!!
You rant like a newborn. At least learn to spell, or don't.
Quote
If you want know more, i can give you a trail, a light of knowledge, i don't know if you notice what i wrote just a few second before you !
Funny. Any fool can proclaim himself a messiah, but he can never back it up.
Your posts show clearly where you stand, that is, crawl...in the gutter of ignorance.
QuoteReply #7 and #3 the formulars a true and working but what is RESONANCE ??? !!!!! It's called OMEGA !!!!!
! 2 pi f -" SHOULD be for all "L x C" --> Xc = Xl for biggest Q but first low "XXX" than should be "infinit" !!!"
Looking for time !!! All cases but not full time ! More HINTS i don't give for TROUBLEMAKERS !!!
Good Luck
PS: change some words !!! But if you don't learning read between the lines you have no chance, USE it !!!
#Facepalm
Quote from: nix85 on July 11, 2022, 01:40:18 PM
I am sure talking about ether is bs to you.
Any fool can proclaim himself a messiah,
Jo-EL is absolutely valuable member of this forum.Messiah, and God is not recognized by physics and general science.
With all
due respect, sometime phrased:
"With all
do respect"– expressing lack of respect:
–nix85 where did you come from?
–nix85 what made you, so irrelevant or scientifically invalid?
Wesley
@nix85,
i can spell out the words but you are thinking wrong !
If you reach near by the speed i am use on the mecanical keyboard some letters are not writen and i do not read all before sending,
this my only mistake, but you are a monkey with the hand in the bottle and you are the type who no could eat the banana !!! NEVER EVER !!!
@stivep - Wesley, the problem you have in thinking OU is the same for all, the definition is important !!!
When you say: INPUT ENERGY is ever < = ever smaller ( never > ) ( never bigger ) than OUTPUT ENERGY than you are wrong,
BECAUSE it is EVER an open SYSTEM !!!
Even so called "SOLID STATE CIRCUITS" !
I am 50 years old and more than 30 years in electronics !!! German title Master Ing. Electronics !
@nix85
To respond your reply #529 i am "not meaning ether is BS" !!! I am talking about nearly all off topics !!!
Quote from: Jo-EL on July 11, 2022, 02:02:56 PM
@stivep - Wesley, the problem you have in thinking OU is the same for all, the definition is important !!!
When you say: INPUT ENERGY is ever < = ever smaller ( never > ) ( never bigger ) than OUTPUT ENERGY than you are wrong,
BECAUSE it is EVER an open SYSTEM !!!
Even so called "SOLID STATE CIRCUITS" !
I am 50 years old and more than 30 years in electronics !!! German title Master Ing. Electronics !
some local phenomena may look like overunity (refrigeration, heat exchange) but seen from the perspective of
entire process it follows thermodynamics:
Quote
https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Law_of_conservation_of_energy (https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Law_of_conservation_of_energy#:~:text=The%20law%20of%20conservation%20of%20energy%20states%20that,of%20energy%2C%20unless%20it%27s%20added%20from%20the%20outside.)
were:
In physics, the principle of locality states that an object is influenced directly only by its immediate surroundings. A theory that includes the principle of locality is said to be a "local theory". This is an alternative to the concept of instantaneous "action at a distance".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_locality
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_locality#:~:text=In%20physics%2C%20the%20principle%20of%20locality%20states%20that,the%20concept%20of%20instantaneous%20%22action%20at%20a%20distance%22.)Wesley
Quote from: stivep on July 11, 2022, 01:48:20 PM
Jo-EL is absolutely valuable member of this forum.
Messiah, and God is not recognized by physics and general science.
With all due respect, sometime phrased:
"With all do respect"– expressing lack of respect:
–nix85 where did you come from?
–nix85 what made you, so irrelevant or scientifically invalid?
Wesley
"Science" without God is not science, it's limited and flawed
fundamentally. This dead materialistic, etherless paradigm
which you call "science" is on broken legs made of glass,
slight breeze will shatter it soon (but not sooner than
average Joe is ready for it which may take a while).
As your ignorance got exposed predictably you resort to more
colorful ad-hominems.
How ironic that you call me irrelevant or scientifically invalid.
You, who are the very opposite of science, conventional and that higher and only
true science based on ether and it's universal currents.
But i will not get dragged down in your little adhominem play, it is clear to me
it's but another attempt to distract from the TRUTH to dodge what you did
not answer. Now answer....
Are you calling Trevor Constable a liar, if not, how do you explain
what is shown in this doc.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjeUhQJp5WE
Quote from: Jo-EL on July 11, 2022, 02:02:56 PM
@nix85,
i can spell out the words but you are thinking wrong !
If you reach near by the speed i am use on the mecanical keyboard some letters are not writen and i do not read all before sending,
this my only mistake, but you are a monkey with the hand in the bottle and you are the type who no could eat the banana !!! NEVER EVER !!!
No need to get emotional. It is not my fault that you are a donkey running toward a
carrot hanging in front of you, of course you will never get it, never ever.
BTW i can type faster than you think and yet i make no typos or at least not
remotely as much as you.
Quote
To respond your reply #529 i am "not meaning ether is BS" !!! I am talking about nearly all off topics !!!
This nonsense has already been addressed before, there is nothing wrong about going off topic if it's valuable in some way, this is an open forum and such contributions are welcome IF shared in constructive way.
Jo-EL
QuoteBECAUSE it is EVER an open SYSTEM !!!
Even so called "SOLID STATE CIRCUITS" !
I am 50 years old and more than 30 years in electronics !!! German title Master Ing. Electronics !
Good to have an experienced hand you on board.
I agree and we can never create a truly closed system because 99% of matter is a perfect vacuum full of EM energy. What we call matter is an illusion we have created in our mind and is only 1% material moving about near the speed of light.
As an electronics guy here's something you may like. I broke the rules regarding Faraday's cage which claims that no EM waves can penetrate it. I did this by producing Tesla's radiant impulses which act faster than the cage metal can conduct. In fact the only reason any energy can be blocked by a Faraday cage is if the conductor induces an opposing field faster than the energy which induced it. If the energy is acting faster than conduction/induction there is no opposition.
So we should understand the notion of open and closed systems has limitations.
In fact the strange notion of closed systems and loops came from Faraday and his fellow scientists of the time who found there were an infinite number of variables in every system. As such it was impossible to quantify all the possible number of interacts and do any calculations. So they started generalizing and lumping things together so they could do the math. They never meant for anyone to take these concepts or forms of notation literally but apparently many did by mistake.
Regards
AC
While you guys do fighting over ambitional matters ;D I found another inteesting patent connected to Strebkov resonant amplifier. Positive feedback to primary side of transformer enchances gain.
RU2600097C1 - Method of increasing of electric signal power - Google Patents (https://patents.google.com/patent/RU2600097C1/en)
And latest from Stepanov. Nearly all Stepanov patents deal with converting reactive power into active.
RU197031U1 - HALF-GENERATOR - Google Patents (https://patents.google.com/patent/RU197031U1/en)
Cheers,
Pix
PS. Stivep. I am not going to go into political/philosophical disputes. I cut discussion to absolute minimum and technical topics only. This forum is already diluted by tons of BS talk.
I agree let's keep it technical.
But before we get back to transformers,
since stivep denies ether, i just want him to say is Trevor James Constable a liar/hoaxer,
if not and if he still denies ether by which mechanism is rain produced.
Why i got a hunch he is never going to, even if he does it will be some dodgy,
water mudding reply, never clear and concrete answer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjeUhQJp5WE
Not even going to go into all the other etheric engineers of which there are many.
A summary of TJC's work
Etheric weather discoveries of Trevor J. Constable
The Earth is a living organism, and like all living things it breathes. The major etheric force involved in the breathing processes is the chemical ether. The planet Earth exhales the chemical ether into the atmosphere at sunrise, and inhales it into the mantle at sunset. "The moisture-producing, fluid-influencing chemical ether is responsible for such seemingly disparate phenomena as morning and evening fogs and mist, fluctuations in soil humidity, barometric pressure changes, increases and diminutions of potential gradient, and the rising and falling of plant sap." (7)
Wilhelm Reich (1897-1957) discovered the chemical ether as a physical force in 1939-1940, and called it orgone energy. He empirically found out many properties of orgone energy; the blue color, affinity to the fluid state of matter and the ability to produce thermic, barometric, electrostatic and biological effects. In his discovery of the atmospheric orgone energy, Reich also determined the presence of its basic west to east movement. (7)
The chemical ether flows from low potential to high potential - to the opposite direction than conventional energy potentials. The main etheric flows in the temperate zones run from west to east, and in the equator, the main flow is from east to west. There are large differences in temperate zone etheric densities and response times compared to (faster) equator. The west to east flow of ether in the northern hemisphere is strongest at full moon, and weakest at new moon. There is also south to north terrestrial flow of ether in the northern hemisphere spring and summer, and in the winter this flow reverses. The west to east flow and the south to north flow are separate functions of the ether, but to some degree they mutually influence each other. (12)
Fig. 3. Etheric weather engineering device
Geometric forms and structures have a long history of involvement with etheric force. Pyramids and cones focus etheric force in a coherent beam from the cone apex. When rotation is added, the devices become more effective as vortical movement is generated in the ether. Additionally when the devices are mounted on a moving vessel, their action is greatly enhanced. In the picture is Mark 5 Spider: The rotating cones induce vortical movement into the ether, which increase the local etheric potential and attract atmospheric moisture, and eventually produce rain. (12)
Etheric potential and barometric pressure have an inverse relationship. As etheric potential and humidity rises, barometric pressure goes down, clouds are formed and eventually it rains. When the etheric potential becomes sufficient, it discharges via lightning. High etheric potentials are antagonists to high electric potentials. Very high etheric potential (for example in tropical cyclones and in tornadoes) flows towards high electric potential sources such as high voltage transformers and breaks them with great force. (12, 13)
There are two kids of etheric vortices: implosive and explosive. Conventional technology depends upon explosive forces, which are hot, dry, and destructive. Implosive forces, on the other hand, are cooling, contractive, and constructive to life. Their activity is harmoniously ordered and based on the golden section ratios, which manifest in all life. (12)
Quote from: nix85 on July 11, 2022, 05:18:54 PM
I agree let's keep it technical.
But before we get back to transformers,
since stivep denies ether, i just want him to say is Trevor James Constable a liar/hoaxer,
if not and if he still denies ether by which mechanism is rain produced.
Why i got a hunch he is never going to, even if he does it will be some dodgy,
water mudding reply, never clear and concrete answer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjeUhQJp5WE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjeUhQJp5WE)
Not even going to go into all the other etheric engineers of which there are many.
A summary of TJC's work
Etheric weather discoveries of Trevor J. Constable
The Earth is a living organism, and like all living things it breathes. The major etheric force involved in the breathing processes is the chemical ether. The planet Earth exhales the chemical ether into the atmosphere at sunrise, and inhales it into the mantle at sunset. "The moisture-producing, fluid-influencing chemical ether is responsible for such seemingly disparate phenomena as morning and evening fogs and mist, fluctuations in soil humidity, barometric pressure changes, increases and diminutions of potential gradient, and the rising and falling of plant sap." (7)
Wilhelm Reich (1897-1957) discovered the chemical ether as a physical force in 1939-1940, and called it orgone energy. He empirically found out many properties of orgone energy; the blue color, affinity to the fluid state of matter and the ability to produce thermic, barometric, electrostatic and biological effects. In his discovery of the atmospheric orgone energy, Reich also determined the presence of its basic west to east movement. (7)
The chemical ether flows from low potential to high potential - to the opposite direction than conventional energy potentials. The main etheric flows in the temperate zones run from west to east, and in the equator, the main flow is from east to west. There are large differences in temperate zone etheric densities and response times compared to (faster) equator. The west to east flow of ether in the northern hemisphere is strongest at full moon, and weakest at new moon. There is also south to north terrestrial flow of ether in the northern hemisphere spring and summer, and in the winter this flow reverses. The west to east flow and the south to north flow are separate functions of the ether, but to some degree they mutually influence each other. (12)
Fig. 3. Etheric weather engineering device
Geometric forms and structures have a long history of involvement with etheric force. Pyramids and cones focus etheric force in a coherent beam from the cone apex. When rotation is added, the devices become more effective as vortical movement is generated in the ether. Additionally when the devices are mounted on a moving vessel, their action is greatly enhanced. In the picture is Mark 5 Spider: The rotating cones induce vortical movement into the ether, which increase the local etheric potential and attract atmospheric moisture, and eventually produce rain. (12)
Etheric potential and barometric pressure have an inverse relationship. As etheric potential and humidity rises, barometric pressure goes down, clouds are formed and eventually it rains. When the etheric potential becomes sufficient, it discharges via lightning. High etheric potentials are antagonists to high electric potentials. Very high etheric potential (for example in tropical cyclones and in tornadoes) flows towards high electric potential sources such as high voltage transformers and breaks them with great force. (12, 13)
There are two kids of etheric vortices: implosive and explosive. Conventional technology depends upon explosive forces, which are hot, dry, and destructive. Implosive forces, on the other hand, are cooling, contractive, and constructive to life. Their activity is harmoniously ordered and based on the golden section ratios, which manifest in all life. (12)
Please stop this aether thread.
This topic is about reactive power and ways to convert it to active power.
Cheers,
Pix
Quote from: pix on July 11, 2022, 06:18:38 PM
Please stop this aether thread.
This topic is about reactive power and ways to convert it to active power.
Cheers,
Pix
Why would i stop it and let him disinform people.
It's a simple question, let him answer it altho i doubt he will.
EDIT:
Ok, nevermind. I don't want him to answer, what could he answer anyway,
it would be naive to expect anything but further denial or dodging.
I shared enough on the subject, who was supposed to get it got it.
Movin' on with the main thread.
Quote from: nix85 on July 11, 2022, 06:25:14 PM
Why would i stop it and let him disinform people.
Do you know nix85
why, Ether/ eather was removed from education of every school in the world since ~1926. ?
________________________________________________Monkey prefers banana instead of cellphone.
Some primitive tribes, can read and even write their holly values about
their gods and banana superiority over cellphone.
Primitive minds in overunity.com are used, by these to whom it matters,
-motivated by money, believes, or fear to becoming a loser.
e.g : -Russian trolls, paid by "oil" or rejected pseudosientists.
Everything unrecognized and opposed by science is a trash.
Recognized moderated physics forums removes the trash.
or
they would ask you nix85 to take
your "god/s"and your trash with you, while leaving.
I don't want to act here as trash remover( moderator) but I could.Wesley.
PS : Constitutional rights to freedom of speech in USA, is not written in constitution of Canada or Russia, so trash can be removed.
Guys please stop this fight :o
Quote from: stivep on July 12, 2022, 08:13:31 AM
Do you know nix85 why,
Ether/ eather was removed...
Ether was removed from mainstream "science" just like perpetual motion before it...
"Eppur si muove" ("And yet it moves)".
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLS6CmWwu5VGl5al_O94rmKNiuSZs7Loz1
What are we gonna do with these? You said magnet motor is impossible.
Indeed monkey prefers banana over cellphone but the key is,
in reality, cellphone IS the banana. Not that cellphones are bad,
on the contrary, but cellphone using hot electricity and hertzian
waves is indeed like a banana compared to real stuff.
He does not only deny ether and perpetual motion, but also antigravity
yet Hutchison levitated a 32kg (70lbs) lead cannon ball with 75W.
https://youtu.be/hEND8dlUp1Y?t=5398
He denies other stuff too, not even gonna bother going back to list it.
He represents mockery of true science and pole of shame of this forum.
Altho he insists on me being a Russian shill or whatever, ironically, i don't
even think he is a payed shill, i think he is just very ignorant and blind
and stubborn to see beyond his preconceived misconceptions.
He even seems to be under delusion he is a moderator here, again
ironically since it is him who should be moderatED.
In any case, i predicted your dodging rant and further denial.
I am again asking you a simple question, is Trevor James Constable
a liar/hoaxer, if not, how is the rain produced.
Also, are the magnet motors above "fake".
And is Hutchison "fake".
Of course he is not going to answer, but rant/dodge again.
Take attention at second half of second video, he explains
and shows how (one) solution to sticky point is making an L shape
that is 90° angle from attracting magnets. Turn the volume up.
Quote from: nix85 on July 12, 2022, 01:21:50 PM
, is Trevor James Constable
a liar/hoaxer, if not, how is the rain produced.
1925 −2016 native of Wellington, New Zealand, he served 31 years at sea,
UFO writer with no technical and no scientific education
he didn't even graduate a high school,
QuoteA natural born New Zealander, at 17 years of age Trevor joined with the Union Steam Ship Company
and took to the seas. He then entered the British Merchant Navy and became Radio Officer on the Queen Mary in 1948
https://thomasbrown.org/trevor-james-constable/ (https://thomasbrown.org/trevor-james-constable/)
Quotehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_James_Constable
was a UFO (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO) writer
serious flaws in terms of presentation of historical realities.
borrowing from the Nazi propaganda
traced to//stereotypes about the Soviet Union.
Wilhelm Reich (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Reich)'s orgone (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgone), UFOs (fake was used by Trevor James Constable)
to write in two books, (about) "creatures" // the size of a coin.
In 1991 Constable worked with the local Malaccan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malacca) government
//created a 'rain-making' technology, which would then alter the ether or 'chi' (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi) of the atmosphere.[7] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_James_Constable#cite_note-first-7)
claimed that his technology and methods had already been used to fill the Gibraltar Dam (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibraltar_Dam) in California (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California).[6] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_James_Constable#cite_note-clean-6)
Malaysian government (found ) //evidence that the State government had been cheated.[9] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_James_Constable#cite_note-9) //$3.2 million.
(../) stands for shortcuts and additions
Quote from: nix85 on July 12, 2022, 01:21:50 PM
how is the rain produced
https://greentumble.com/how-is-rain-formed-
(https://greentumble.com/how-is-rain-formed-and-why-is-it-needed-for-the-planet/#:~:text=Rain%20is%20formed%20during%20a%20process%20which%20is,it%20to%20become%20a%20part%20of%20the%20atmosphere.)Wesley
nix85
QuoteEther was removed from mainstream "science" just like perpetual motion before it...
"Eppur si muove" ("And yet it moves)".
In many respects it's not a matter of proof or a lack of it if it's never acknowledged. Once many people get a belief in there head there is no amount of proof which could change it. I change my mind daily on many things...but that's another story.
On the Aether, I break the argument down into a few key questions...
1)The Michelson–Morley experiment was an attempt to detect the existence of the luminiferous aether. There argument was that the motion of the Earth through an aether/medium should effect the speed of light in there apparatus. It did not, however we know the speed of light is constant whether the source is moving or not. We also know electric, magnetic and electromagnetic fields do not rotate with the source. As such Michelson–Morley simply verified what we already know, the primary fields are a property of space not the source which created them. Therefore, logically, the experiment did not disprove an Aether it only showed it was flawed and could not detect anything.
2)As well if the notion of a lack of aether/medium is to be valid we would then need to explain how a field change/EM radiation could propagate through empty space. You see it violates the basic premise of physics as cause and effect/natural law and supposes that EM waves can act on themselves or through nothing. As well it discounts the existence of EM waves because the concept of a wave relies on a medium to act as a wave carrier. As such they would have to abandon the whole notion of waves and cause and effect.
As we can see general relativity and any non-aether theory would seem to be a classic case of "The Emperor's New Clothes". People didn't want to look stupid or be the odd man out so they bought into a fairy tale where "anything is possible".
It's cool, if they want to believe something can be created from nothing, a wave can travel without a wave carrier or act on nothing then free energy is super easy to explain. Free energy is possible for the same reasons they think GR or space time is possible. I mean if they want to throw all logic, reason and common sense out the window then let's go for it, lol.
Regards
AC
Quote from: onepower on July 13, 2022, 02:45:07 PM
Therefore, logically, the experiment did not disprove an Aether it only showed it was flawed and could not detect anything.
Regards
AC
Thank you for your comment.
every idea having to be experimentally
proven :
empirical knowledge, is learned through practice; Trial and error.
ether was rejected as non usable, non-practical and theoretically inconsistent concept.
Wesley
stivep
Quoteevery idea having to be experimentally proven :
empirical knowledge, is learned through practice; Trial and error.
ether was rejected as non usable, non-practical and theoretically inconsistent concept.
That's not entirely correct in my opinion...
It's not that the Aether theory was unusable, unpractical or inconsistent. They just couldn't find an acceptable experiment to verify it's existence at the time.
For example, the Aether theory was eventually replaced with a Dark energy/matter theory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter
QuoteDark matter is a hypothetical form of matter thought to account for approximately 85% of the matter in the universe. Dark matter is called "dark" because it does not appear to interact with the electromagnetic field, which means it does not absorb, reflect, or emit electromagnetic radiation (like light) and is, therefore, difficult to detect. Various astrophysical observations – including gravitational effects which cannot be explained by currently accepted theories of gravity unless more matter is present than can be seen – imply dark matter's presence.
Sounds familiar doesn't it?, "a medium" pervading all space we know exists through secondary effects. A medium which does not interact directly with EM fields or light. It's also interesting to note the Michelson–Morley experiment wouldn't detect dark energy or matter either yet we know it exists through other measurements.
Then we have Dark Energy, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_energy
QuoteIn physical cosmology and astronomy, dark energy is an unknown form of energy that affects the universe on the largest scales. The first observational evidence for its existence came from measurements of supernovas, which showed that the universe does not expand at a constant rate; rather, the universe's expansion is accelerating.
Apparently the Aether is dead, long live dark matter and energy, which is basically the Aether with a new name.
Regards
AC
Quote from: onepower on July 14, 2022, 01:48:37 AM
Michelson–Morley experiment
QuoteMichelson–Morley experiment
DEFINITION an experiment performed in 1887 which attempted to measure the relative motion of the earth and the ether by measuring the speed of light in directions parallel and perpendicular to the earth's motion. The result disproved the existence of the ether, which contradicted Newtonian physics but was explained by Einstein's special theory of relativity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_A._Michelson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_A._Michelson)
First performed in Germany in 1880–81 by the physicist A.A. Michelson (https://www.britannica.com/biography/A-A-Michelson),
the test was later refined in 1887 by Michelson and Edward W. Morley (https://www.britannica.com/biography/Edward-Williams-Morley) in the United States.
attempt to detect the velocity of Earth (https://www.britannica.com/place/Earth) with respect to the hypothetical (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypothetical) luminiferous ether (https://www.britannica.com/science/ether-theoretical-substance),
a medium in space proposed to carry light waves.
This seriously discredited the ether theories and ultimately led to the proposal by
Albert Einstein (https://www.britannica.com/biography/Albert-Einstein) in 1905 that the speed of light is a universal constant (https://www.britannica.com/science/physical-constant).
https://www.britannica.com/science/Michelson-Morley-experiment (https://www.britannica.com/science/Michelson-Morley-experiment)
_____________________________________________________________________Quote from: onepower on July 14, 2022, 01:48:37 AM
For example, the Aether theory was eventually replaced with a
Dark energy/matter theory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter)
link quoted by says :
Dark matter , not to be confused (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter)with ,
Dark energy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_energy),https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter)
comment:
1. Dark matter and dark energy there are two different "animals."
So I'm confused in to, what properties similarity you wanted to compare with?
2. think about it like about competition:
– problem was explained by E = mC
squaredWesley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Jy4wk9r0rg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iv4Gel8HDY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iv4Gel8HDY)
And topic succesfully derailed to exotic BS.
Have a fun guys.
QuoteMichelson–Morley experiment
DEFINITION an experiment performed in 1887 which attempted to measure the relative motion of the earth and the ether by measuring the speed of light in directions parallel and perpendicular to the earth's motion. The result disproved the existence of the ether, which contradicted Newtonian physics but was explained by Einstein's special theory of relativity.
I found the experiment kind of comical for various reasons which seems to defy all logic and reason...
1)If the speed of light is constant and does not change velocity with a moving source then why would Michelson–Morley think the speed of light would change in there experiment?. As well why would they think light would interact with the Aether?.
2)As supposed scientists Michelson–Morley displayed gross incompetence in there false conclusion. Any credible scientist would have come to the conclusion that the Aether does not interact with light or EM waves similar to Dark Energy/Matter. In fact that's all they did prove and nothing more should have been implied.
3)The experiment was little more than cargo cult science based on a false premise to show a preconceived conclusion. This is why we need to be very careful as to what we think were seeing. An absence of proof in one flawed experiment is not proof of absence, that's absurd and amateur in my opinion.
This is the same kind of twisted logic and false cause fallacies many in this thread are using. They think a reactive current can do work, not understanding that a reactive current does no work while an active one does. They have also completely ignored the forces/properties which caused the motion and produced the supposed current in the first place. I mean, if they wanted to debate a current that can do work they should have called the thread "active currents".
This thread is going nowhere so I will give you a clue...
Obviously, reactive currents are not the answer because they are simply involved in storing energy as a magnetic field just like capacitors store energy as an electric field. Logically neither kind of current, reactive or active, matters all that much as both are simply energy carriers. What we are concerned with is how much work is involved to produce an active current versus how much work it can do. So either we do less work to produce the same current or the current does more work than expected before it dissipates.
Regards
AC
Regarding the increase in vibration when adding a permanent magnet.
I finally found this video on my computer!
Induction of opposing compressed fields
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCClYZp9Yls (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCClYZp9Yls)
Alan
Instead of your slow drip drip drip of infomercials
Perhaps grab a moderated board and teach the builders
Here something no one has seen ( after decade or more of drips)
As yet not one of these claims of magnet FE or ?POC etc
Has shown the ability to survive scrutiny or proper
Vetting !
If there is truly a gain mechanism
PLEASE
Share it ...
Thousands have tried this path
And not one verification of proof
Many unsuccessful attempts shared !
But not one true gain mechanism ever replicated
And shared
Even recent posts here in this forum by previous members of that group... who spent
Years! ( they referred to themselves as elite members ( or inside close nit group ?)
Have since left and started more tolerant group?
Yes it's true "they" are also hungry to find FE and hopefully
they also work to share open source ... if any discovery is found !
Grab a moderated builders board and post a verifiable gain for replication!
Just one true gain mechanism will do !
That the many open source builders reading here can
Reproduce and share on their bench !
Respectfully
Chet K
Edit
For comment below
Many reading here have done POC 1.7 when first
Shared years ago
Then the error was found ( claimants scope setting error)
Since then all manner of accusations... and never shown independently to work!
I will find a good reference when i have time
IMO
Better you should teach !!
And save time
Edit again
I see your comment on marathon man below
He struggled here for years with an attempt !
Never shared a success that I am aware of!
Ramset
Please show me some of the 1000 of these attempts.
One of such mechanisms is shown by Figuera.
http://www.alpoma.com/figuera/patente_1908.pdf
And replicated by MarathonMan.
Well, at one time we came to the conclusion that the approximation of a powerful permanent magnet increases the efficiency of converting electrical energy in the coil into mechanical vibrations of the tongue.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jeziPoJia6w
Alan
Here recently posted by member fer123
Post number 690 here
https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/690/ (https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/690/)
And apparently entire group also had similar issues
https://www.beyondunity.org/thread/public-answer-to-chris/ (https://www.beyondunity.org/thread/public-answer-to-chris/)
Alan
Please start a topic to share this POC claim
It seems most vague...since limited options on coil pairing assist or repel (buc)
Chose one and call holy grail ?
Too much conflict
Please
Open source gain mechanism!!
That actually works as claimed!
MANY will try it again!!
Respectfully
Chet K
Ps
Edit to comment below
It does matter!!
World desperately needs this if true and not measurement error
Of conceptual error
Please share schematic with values and claim ( in your own moderated board )
Or dozen more years will go by with no shared FE gain mechanism from that source)
The topic doesn't contain a POC replication of said user.
It does not matter.Cheers
btw the 3 coil POC works by inducing flux through 2 coupled non-inductive coils, which, combined, results in zero mutual inductance.
Alan
Please start a thread
Here we have open source builders sharing years long efforts
Incredible amount of hours and super complicated efforts!
And you post simple POC gain mechanism ( few hours work ?..maybe 10 minutes for those
With coils already laying around ?
I am honestly aware of no successful POC gain mechanism which has been shared open source
and now above member" fer123"shared similar results from group after years long membership at
that association ( no successful gain mechanism)
Please share build info
!!
World desperately needs such a super simple gain mechanism!!
And here you can manage topic and moderate off topic !!
Respectfully
Chet K
"Then the error was found ( claimants scope setting error)"
What was the error and how does it prove that the method is wrong?
If people in here are capable, they could try themselves to put 3 coils on a core and study the effects of a single, variable duty-cycle period.
1 input coil, and 2 output coils which are connected such that their voltage add when their fields buck. Bucking causes zero mutual induction towards the primary, or 1+1-1=1, only primary consumes power while the (back-MMF) flux of the secondaries are charged up. Need diodes on the output coils so the current remains forward biased and there is only one direction when the input goes T_off.
But I'm not sure where I started talking about the POC.
'Figuera' is real, that's why central bankers bought his patents. Marathonman continued sharing progress here
https://figueramarathonman.boards.net/board/5/clemente-figuera-board (https://figueramarathonman.boards.net/board/5/clemente-figuera-board)
Alan
Here it's all about trying to bring the change that
the world desperately needs
Please consider this offer to share what you know
and teach !
BTW
I always liked the zeal MarathonMan brought to forum
He dedicated his life to this
Unfortunately he had very hard time doing this work
And surviving day to day life and all it's burdens ( many in similar boat)
Very stressful!!
If he is still at this
Please forward my contact
ChetKremens@gmail.com
Thanks
Sorry I don't have contact with Marathonman.
I'll try to help where I can.
I was watching 'DZ generator' when it all started to make sense: spatial change and net zero-change, flux vortex with zero resultant flux change (equal and opposite change), MOTIONAL E=vXB=dA/dt, vXB + (-vx-B)=2vxB, not 0.
Figuera and Sweet seems to do something similar, VTA (look up schematic and photo): bifilar coil, air core, on top and bottom side a magnet, probably N-N, and a pulsing coil with its face against the side of the bifilar to change its flux from the side. N-N compression, because it causes stronger induction?
EMJunkie's experiment, a minimalist design, feeds a non-inductive bifilar coil through a core, which flux doesn't have effect on the flux of the primary that normally causes an increase in current, because like he said 1+1-1=1, and then let it 'deflate' or spin as a flywheel. It's a flux capacitor which slowly releases the flux stored in the output coil, because they remain mutually bucking when the signal is turned off, creating an EMF which enhances the bucking when it is used to create a current.
Not to forget the Jensen transformer and explanation, and Thane's similar technique of back-MMF-Lenz redirection to a third coil on a second core.
Also Stan Meyer which has been confirmed and developed further by H2OPower.
Overunity? Who knows.
Kyle Klicker - Motional Electric Fields associated with Relative moving Charge - 1986.pdf <- this probably explains EV Gray.
Quote from: stivep on July 13, 2022, 02:40:21 PM
1925 −2016 native of Wellington, New Zealand, he served 31 years at sea,
UFO writer with no technical and no scientific education
he didn't even graduate a high school,
https://greentumble.com/how-is-rain-formed-
(https://greentumble.com/how-is-rain-formed-and-why-is-it-needed-for-the-planet/#:~:text=Rain%20is%20formed%20during%20a%20process%20which%20is,it%20to%20become%20a%20part%20of%20the%20atmosphere.)Wesley
Of course you did not even open let alone watch the documentary with experimental proof, testimonies etc, you of course, again resort to defamation, who cares if he is a phd, could not matter less, as for the "cheating" part, look how you sleazly (as usual) added "(found)" into the sentence
"The Malaysian government eventually began a probe into TJC/Atmos Engineers to look into whether there was any evidence that the State government had been cheated.".
If they were cheated show a single proof that is the case except for alleged suspicion.
It would be relatively easy to find out if the following rain was delivered, why i got a hunch it would turn out 327mm of rain overall fell during the operation exactly as James says.
OPERATION PIONEER – Melaka, Malaysia, 1991 Dry Season. Fixed base operations, with ancillary gun car operations on regional roads. PIONEER brought in 38 measurable rains in 57 dry season days, for a total of 327 mm. This is 75 percent of an entire year's normal Melaka rainfall. Melaka is the driest state in mainland Malaysia. Government radar nevertheless documents unerringly that Melaka was FREQUENTLY THE ONLY STATE IN MALAYSIA GETTING RAIN during the entire period of PIONEER.Funny how you forgot to mention all the other operations over the decades, also all successful.
http://rainengineering.com/operations-summary/
Watch the documentary instead of writing trash.
Much might be said about intense weather modifications by Constable, Wilhelm Reich, Pierluigi Ighina and others. As another example quote about Ighina from
https://www.theepochtimes.com/ighina-marconi-reich-cloudbuster-maurizio-costanzo-magnetic-field-oscillator_1529150.html
In 1998, internationally renowned journalist Maurizio Costanzo went to interview Ighina and witnessed a strange propeller spinning above his humble dwelling in Imola, Italy. Costanzo describes how a hole in the clouds steadily opened and grew as the minutes passed. Later, Ighina admitted that the most satisfying component of his unusual invention was the innocent smiles of children as they watched the clouds retire, as if by magic.
Funny how you "forgot" to address magnet motors i linked which you claim "can't work".
Will you call these fakes too? Anyone intelligent can see they are real.
The second half of second video even gives instructions and demonstration how to replicate it. Sure, these are not high power output, but are proof of concept, magnet only motors that work + 1 gravity wheel perpetual motion device.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLS6CmWwu5VGl5al_O94rmKNiuSZs7Loz1
As for dark matter, parallel can be made, they admit...
"Based on current data, Adler estimates in the October 17 Journal of Physics A that at most some 24 trillion metric tons of dark matter lies between Earth and the moon. Such a dark matter halo might explain the anomalies seen in the orbits of the Pioneer, Galileo, Cassini, Rosetta and NEAR mission spacecraft, he adds."
But the thing is ether is of various kinds, and one particular type is interacting with light unlike what dark matter is "supposed to", not only that, these subtle types of matter are also carries of what we call vitality literally so etc. So mainstream terminology, even if we take dark matter as a kind of admission of ether is still but a crude and inaccurate approximation and for them it is theoretical, so they don't even say it definitely exists. Mainstream is a mockery calibrated to average Joe.
I made an instruction video how to measure resonant frequency of a coil,
with soundcard oscilloscope, in this case primary of a transformer.
It gave me pain to come to terms with it, but in the end it's simple.
I used to use 1kOhm resistor to protect the computer and i was firing
the LC tank with 1.5V battery, it turns out in the end both resistor and
the battery are totally not needed, internal resistance is so great it
cannot even be measured and it's enough to short the coil with a cap
attached across it to get nice damped resonant waves.
Setttings i found best
Amplitude CH1 1V
Time 1sec
Trigger normal - this means it will pick up for 1 sec and stop unless stronger signal comes
Measure cursors with time and voltage checkboxes on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvehhwBK1pk
Some other kind of Truth in between:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfyNgopB0Ig
As we wander in the forest of delicate solid state approaches, we sometimes
forget basic mechanical overunity principles have long been known and proven.
Spring overunity - mechanical resonance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDQ_lnUo0go
Precession gravity overunity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3kQN-71DCI
https://youtu.be/zBrnxadM1v8?t=4312
Pendulum gravity overunity. At 5:22 he shows how really really hard it is
to operate the pump directly on same length lever, he can barely do it with
one hand yet with pendulum attached he can literally operate it with a pinky.
Look at that beautiful monster in the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yheVAF-Zrvo
We can see resonance, be it em or mechanical is the way to go.
Mechanical being easier to make we can see how easy it is to
keep the oscillation/precession going, excess energy comes from gravity.
Quote from: alan on July 16, 2022, 03:11:50 PM
Some other kind of Truth in between:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfyNgopB0Ig
If that is supposed to refer to ether, you are in denial just like stivep.
Well, truth does not need defence, it already is, as time will tell.
Quote from: nix85 on July 16, 2022, 03:37:43 PM
If that is supposed to refer to ether, you are in denial just like stivep.
Well, truth does not need defence, it already is, as time will tell.
The truth and the Lord was manifest in the flesh.
Who cares about the ether. :) The 'natural medium' isn't empty according to science.
Quote from: alan on July 16, 2022, 03:46:56 PM
The truth and the Lord was manifest in the flesh.
Who cares about the ether. :) The 'natural medium' isn't empty according to science.
If you want to troll you have to do it >> intelligently <<. Like this it fires back at ya.
Who cares about ether? Who cares about truth then, bring on the disinfo of all kinds.
I suppose that is what you want :)
Quote from: nix85 on July 16, 2022, 03:59:23 PM
If you want to troll you have to do it >> intelligently <<. Like this it fires back at ya.
Who cares about ether? Who cares about truth then, bring on the disinfo of all kinds.
I suppose that is what you want :)
Define ether.
Is the earth a sphere?
Quote from: alan on July 16, 2022, 04:20:17 PM
Define ether.
Is the earth a sphere?
Didn't i say if you want to troll you gotta do it intelligently, otherwise you make yourself look stupid.
Ether is whirl/vortex of various kinds of usually undetectable matter swirling around the Earth to the edge of the vortex which is just beyond the orbit of Moon.
Try to leave this edge (without your own etheric envelope), this gravitational barrier
on a rocket and you will die instantly (that much about Elon's rocket to Mars).
Approach it from outside at any significant speed going against it's rotation and it will be just like hitting a solid wall.
And yet, while you are immersed in it, unless you know how, it appears to you as if it's not there at all. Yet it is as real as air you breathe but don't see, your very life depends on it. It has it's density, pressure and affects all known phenomena from gravity/weight to very life processes.
It is emitted mostly but not solely at the equatorial area, swirls to the edge of the formentioned vortex and siphons back into the poles just to be ejected again as if earth is but gigantic etheric pump.
You see, there are many secrets you are not yet in state of mind to understand.
..
Quote from: nix85 on July 16, 2022, 04:40:23 PM
Didn't i say if you want to troll you gotta do it intelligently, otherwise you make yourself look stupid.
Ether is whirl/vortex of various kinds of usually undetectable matter swirling around the Earth to the edge of the vortex which is just beyond the orbit of Moon.
Try to leave this edge (without your own etheric envelope), this gravitational barrier
on a rocket and you will die instantly (that much about Elon's rocket to Mars).
Approach it from outside at any significant speed going against it's rotation and it will be just like hitting a solid wall.
And yet, while you are immersed in it, unless you know how, it appears to you as if it's not there at all. Yet it is as real as air you breathe but don't see, your very life depends on it. It has it's density, pressure and affects all known phenomena from gravity/weight to very life processes.
It is emitted mostly but not solely at the equatorial area, swirls to the edge of the formentioned vortex and siphons back into the poles just to be ejected again as if earth is but gigantic etheric pump.
You see, there are many secrets you are not yet in state of mind to understand.
How do you know for sure if it is a secret?
Quote from: alan on July 16, 2022, 04:45:07 PM
How do you know for sure if it is a secret?
If it was a secret it would not be here, in public forum.
There are however secrets but even this much was too much for you.
Quote from: stivep on July 16, 2022, 04:44:16 PM
What it feels like to be naked in front of strangers
or feeling "naked in front of a crowd", is that humiliation,
or some paid trolls don't feel ashamed.?
https://youtu.be/Iy1_J7ZjP7M?t=399 (https://youtu.be/Iy1_J7ZjP7M?t=399)
in this video nix presents excellent Russian skills.
and very heavy accent in his English.
See what happens when you rush, if you just read the description
you would see it's not my video.
I am not Russian neither do i speak Russian.
Besides, it's irrelevant.
Quote
I do agree.
Some liars, duty might need to trash this forum with ether, overunity, anti-gravity, perpetual motion similar trash.
There is nothing wrong with being Russian or speaking Russian
I speak Russian too. Why did you lie to us?
Wesley
Your lies and disinfo have no end but, one thing at the time. You denied magnetic motors, are you saying videos i shared are "fake". Here they are again....
Let's in particular focus on the second video...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkcFRLQiVGk&list=PLS6CmWwu5VGl5al_O94rmKNiuSZs7Loz1&index=2&t=610s&ab_channel=overunitydotcom
Quote from: nix85 on July 16, 2022, 04:48:24 PM
If it was a secret it would not be here, in public forum.
There are however secrets but even this much was too much for you.
But how do you know? Through the occult? That is a channel of 100% lies.
.hr?
Quote from: alan on July 16, 2022, 04:53:34 PM
But how do you know? Through the occult? That is a channel of 100% lies.
"Lies" :) Just like contactees were telling "lies" when they said our moon has air, water,
life and planet-wide population. "Lies". Sure, for those not ready to deal with the truth.
Quote from: nix85 on July 16, 2022, 04:55:03 PM
"Lies" :) Just like contactees were telling "lies" when they said our moon has air, water,
life and planet-wide population. "Lies". Sure, for those not ready to deal with the truth.
yes, those are evil spirits from the kinkdom of darkness, one day it will become clear.
they are real so they must be speaking the truth, this isn't very smart.
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Quote from: alan on July 16, 2022, 04:57:08 PM
yes, those are evil spirits from the kinkdom of darkness, one day it will become clear.
Ok, now that it's clear you're a religious fanatic it all makes sense.
Quote from: nix85 on July 16, 2022, 04:58:16 PM
Ok, now that it's clear you're a religious fanatic it all makes sense.
naive.
occultism is for the pride/proud, it destroys the soul.
Quote from: alan on July 16, 2022, 05:00:06 PM
naive.
occultism is for the pride it destroys the soul.
Occult simply means secret, and nothing is really secret, it's just not common yet.
Within so called occult there is as in everything light and dark side. You naively and
foolishly, put it all in dark basket, as you were taught by your Vatican masters.
And you go to such fanatic extreme to also put ETs in basket of dark spirits.
The good teachings of the occultism are in line with teachings of Jesus, the very opposite of pride and any negativity.
Occult, mystical teachings existed since beginning of Christianity, they were called Gnostics, of course, satanic Vatican, always fought any such group that tried to elevate and liberate humanity. They removed the mystical teachings of one you call "Jesus" which is a title, not a name, all about space people, reincarnation etc was removed by the Roman Church during the councils of Nicein AD 325, Constantinople AD 381, Ephese AD 431 and Chalcedoine AD 451. There were others too, but of lesser significance. This satanic Vatican that has been ruled by Jesuits, their Dark Pope and his army, their near infinite wealth etc are the very center of luciferian forces on Earth. Yet you naively bow to these and swallow what they serve.
Who rules the Vatican, don't forget the present pope is a Jesuit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nKIN_eHYxw
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_General_of_the_Society_of_Jesus
You have naively sold your soul to the dark side.
I just believe the bible (KJV) to be truth and I accepted the redemption plan of the gospel. The vatican is antibiblical, the reformers identified in the pope the man of sin as written in the bible. The reformation gave light to the world and freedom from rome and papa pontifex, next the jesuit order was founded. The occult, hidden world, google saved from the occult.
aliens and spiritual masters are devils in disguise.
Look into the gospel of the grace of God and see if it makes sense, if you dare. :)
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Quote from: alan on July 16, 2022, 05:28:09 PM
I just believe the bible (KJV) to be truth and I accepted the redemption plan of the gospel. The vatican is antibiblical, the reformers identified in the pope the man of sin as written in the bible. The reformation gave light to the world and freedom from rome and papa pontifex, next the jesuit order was founded. The occult, hidden world, google saved from the occult.
aliens and spiritual masters are devils in disguise.
Nothing bad about believing in the bible altho it is sooo extremely limited belief system edited by Vatican as i said (does not appear to bother you altho i even named specific councils where editing was done) and so much is missing, reincarnation being just one example.... but callings ETs and spiritual masters devils...If it wasn't funny, it would be just tragical. You are stuck in dark ages mindset and that's where you apparently want to stay.
There is hardly anything lower than a religious fanatic who calls anything beyond his silly little belief system demonic.
How would you know there are people like us, in fact, better Christians than us, on planets around us and you called these people demons.
And yet most of them evolved into higher spheres beyond our visual range as Earth itself has 7 higher astral shells as well as 7 lower ones where dark spirits you foolishly identified with ETs and spiritual masters dwell.
And sure there is deception by those lower discarnated negative human spirits from lower astral levels trying to drag whole humanity down to self-destruction.
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Ephesians 6:12These are humans, not ETs and they are sometimes impersonating forces of light or ETs, but they are very easy to spot by their energy. That is of course tiny and insignificant part of overall contact experience happening on Earth.
It is pointless to recommend a great book of truth to a fanatic, but if you dare, read the truth spoken from other side of the grave about astral heavens and hells. :)
http://www.luminist.org/archives/Farnese%20-%20A%20Wanderer.pdf
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Look into the gospel of the grace of God and see if it makes sense, if you dare. :)
I read Bible multiple times since i was a kid and have long learned there is far more to the story than fanatics like you dare to think.
Read this book, read the word of ones you misidentified for God and learn who spoke behind the burning bush in the Bible, or who spread out the sea and who was the one you call Jesus etc if you dare. :)
Of course, you won't dare cause it's "demonic" :)
https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Michel%20Desmarquet%20-%20Thiaoouba%20Prophecy.pdf
Quote from: nix85 on July 12, 2022, 01:21:50 PM
//Altho he insists on me being a Russian shill //
Quote from: nix85 on July 10, 2022, 01:52:51 PM
Am not Russian neither do i speak Russian (except some (root) words considering it is also a Slavic tongue). Seems Putin is sending regular checks to New York (joke?)
What it feels like to be naked in front of strangers
or feeling "naked in front of a crowd", is that humiliation,
or some paid trolls don't feel ashamed.?
https://youtu.be/Iy1_J7ZjP7M?t=399 (https://youtu.be/Iy1_J7ZjP7M?t=399)
in this video nix presents excellent Russian skills.
and very heavy accent in his English.
Quote from: nix85 on July 16, 2022, 04:52:40 PM
if you just read the description
you would see it's not my video.
There is nothing in the description saying that.
Quote from: nix85 on July 10, 2022, 01:52:51 PM
//saying that this is disinformation is itself the worst kind of disinformation. Nothing new.//
I do agree.
Some liars, duty might need to trash this forum with ether, overunity, anti-gravity, perpetual motion similar trash.
There is nothing wrong with being Russian or speaking Russian
I learned in USA Russian too. Why did you lie to us?
Conclusion:It is not important who you are, but what you say.
You are manifesting in unpleasant form - not supported by science content ignoring to respond
exactly to the questions and not commenting on links attached by me.
I'm not your enemy.
I just want the value of this forum to grow up.
Wesley
Quote from: stivep on July 16, 2022, 06:01:29 PM
What it feels like to be naked in front of strangers
or feeling "naked in front of a crowd", is that humiliation,
or some paid trolls don't feel ashamed.?
https://youtu.be/Iy1_J7ZjP7M?t=399 (https://youtu.be/Iy1_J7ZjP7M?t=399)
in this video nix presents excellent Russian skills.
and very heavy accent in his English.
There is nothing in the description saying that.
I do agree.
Some liars, duty might need to trash this forum with ether, overunity, anti-gravity, perpetual motion similar trash.
There is nothing wrong with being Russian or speaking Russian
I learned in USA Russian too. Why did you lie to us?
Wesley
You are stupidly pushing same nonsense altho description clearly says not my video. If you are that blunt compare that guy's hands to my hands in the video where i show apparent same pole attraction or measuring res. freq. You are dodging the subject.
Now answer, are magnet motors in the playlist "fake" since you claimed such motor is impossible.
EDIT for EDIT
QuoteConclusion:
It is not important who you are, but what you say.
Then stop lying that i am Russian.
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You are manifesting in unpleasant form - not supported by science content ignoring to respond
exactly to the questions and not commenting on links attached by me.
So
You describe yourself again, it is indeed upleasant that you lie not just about science and technology but also personally.
It is exactly you not responding to questions about the subject but derailing to adhominems.
There is no end to your disinformation.
Now, answer finally, are magnet motors in the playlist fake.
every electric motor uses magnets or electromagnets - ( magnetic field.)
Every concept needs to be proven by
trials and errors, opinion of replicators and scientific explanation of a process
Wesley
There, you are dodging again, we are not talking electromagnets,
but clearly, magnet only motors as only such motors are in the playlist.
You said such motor cannot work. You did not say they may work but
it needs to be proven or disproven. You explicitly said cannot work.
You are a disinformer.
according to scientific links provided to you:
-ether,
perpetual motion machines, overunity machines,
antigravity
are rejected by science of physicsand in addition to it : God is also not recognized by science of physics
________________________________________Be precise and concise responding to links.
And respond to these links !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: nix85 on July 16, 2022, 06:43:43 PM
magnet only motors
You said such motor cannot work.
please provide me with quote of my statement saying exactly that.
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1. https://youtu.be/nBxQj-nn_fA?t=68 (https://youtu.be/nBxQj-nn_fA?t=68)
Why magnet motors can not work (part 1)
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_motor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_motor)
Magnet motor
QuoteA magnet motor or magnetic motor is a type of perpetual motion machine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion_machine),
Quote from: stivep on July 16, 2022, 06:41:57 PM
Every concept needs to be proven by
trials and errors, opinion of replicators and scientific explanation of a process
Wesley
Quote from: stivep on July 16, 2022, 07:05:57 PM
according to scientific links provided to you:
-ether,
perpetual motion machines,
overunity machines,
antigravity are rejected by science.
Dodging again.
They are rejected by fake "science".
Ether is a simple fact, it is what makes the gravitational field,
this substance is also present in interplanetary space, density is lesser there.
Perpetual motion / overunity machines are a simple fact, my big list of magnet only motors is proof by itself, not to go further.
On last page i gave few simple examples of mechanical power amplification showing clearly much greater work is being done through these mechanical oscillators.
Just the fact you totally dismissed, ignored all this shows how ultimatelly unscientific you are, not even paying attention where you should, for it is very important as these are the most basic, simplest to replicate OU devices, that is, energy amplifiers, another popular one is Milkovic's Two-Stage Mechanical Oscillator, time and time again proven to be overunity.
You love to refer to supposed "science", yet you embrace Kapanadze who is a kook according to same mainstream "science" (fake "science").
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________________________________________
Be precise and concise responding to links.please provide me with quote of my statement saying exactly that.
Here are your words from here https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg568440/#msg568440
Magnets can do free work,
No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm sorry magnet cannot work -at allQuote
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1. https://youtu.be/nBxQj-nn_fA?t=68 (https://youtu.be/nBxQj-nn_fA?t=68)
Why magnet motors can not work (part 1)
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_motor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_motor)
Magnet motor
Wesley
HA, despite all shown you still link to some guy in pajamas blabbing how magnets can't do free work as supposed "argument". Ok, enough. It's like talking to a broken record.
Now we'll focus on second video in the playlist. Forget all the rest for a moment. Address this clearly. You speak Russian (unlike me) so you can as well understand what he says.
https://youtu.be/vkcFRLQiVGk&t=163
Now, are you saying this guy is faking this, that this is not a working magnet-only motor.
Please provide the answer only and exactly to the points and questions. Quote from: nix85 on July 16, 2022, 07:31:01 PM
1. //They are rejected by fake "science".
2.//Ether is a simple fact,
3.//Perpetual motion / overunity machines are a simple fact,
4.//mainstream "science" (fake "science").
5. Here are your words from here https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg568440/#msg568440 (https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg568440/#msg568440)
magnet-only motor.
Please support your statements with links of official science of physics
to
points 1,2,3,4add 5.
I didn't talk about magnetic motors in quoted post.
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Quote from: nix85 on July 16, 2022, 07:31:01 PM
They are rejected by fake "science".
mainstream "science" (fake "science").
Please provide description of
your "not fake science" supported by link explaining it.
Please provide comparison between the two.
______________________________________________Quote from: nix85 on July 16, 2022, 07:31:01 PM
some guy in pajamas blabbing how magnets can't do free work
I didn't ask you about pajamas.
I ask you to respond to the links, and you didn't.
here:
1. https://youtu.be/nBxQj-nn_fA?t=68 (https://youtu.be/nBxQj-nn_fA?t=68)
Why magnet motors can not work (part 1)
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_motor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_motor)
Magnet motor
Please respond to point #2 in particular with scientifically valid comment.
Wesley
@stivep
"official science"...ha, again this bs. You know well all these things
are far removed from official so called "science". And yet you press
for "peer review". Are you a clown.
You linked some shmock in pajamas talking how magnet motor is "impossible".
Stop dodging with trash. Answer, is that a video of a real magnet only motor or not.
We'll take silence as admission that it's real unless stated otherwise.
It's ok to make mistakes, but not to persist in them stubbornly.
Quote from: nix85 on July 16, 2022, 06:22:43 PM
Nothing bad about believing in the bible
[...]
Read this book, read the word of ones you misidentified for God and learn who spoke behind the burning bush in the Bible, or who spread out the sea and who was the one you call Jesus etc if you dare. :)
Of course, you won't dare cause it's "demonic" :)
https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Michel%20Desmarquet%20-%20Thiaoouba%20Prophecy.pdf (https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Michel%20Desmarquet%20-%20Thiaoouba%20Prophecy.pdf)
John 7:17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
1Th. 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
Those are the Angel(s) of Jehovah/the LORD, Spiritual beings being ambassadors of God https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/4729/where-did-the-idea-that-the-law-was-administered-through-angels-come-from
If I test that book against the bible as the word and authority of God and testing standard, then we can conclude that the story is 'false'.
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
2 Thessalonians 2:19 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
Some passages to give a thought:
John 1:1-18
(1) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
(2) The same was in the beginning with God.
(3) All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
(4) In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
(5) And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
(6) There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
(7) The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
(8) He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
(9) That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
(10) He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
(11) He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
(12) But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
(13) Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
(14) And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
(15) John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
(16) And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
(17) For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
(18) No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
1 Corinthians 15:1-4
(1) Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
(2) By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
(3) For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
(4) And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Hebrews 1:1-14
(1) God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
(2) Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
(3) Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
(4) Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
(5) For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
(6) And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
(7) And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
(8) But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
(9) Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
(10) And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
(11) They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;
(12) And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.
(13) But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
(14) Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?
Romans 5:12-21
(12) Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
(13) (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
(14) Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
(15) But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
(16) And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
(17) For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
(18) Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
(19) For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
(20) Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
(21) That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.
Luke 24:6 He is risen
Quote from: nix85 on July 16, 2022, 07:31:01 PM
Now we'll focus on second video in the playlist. Forget all the rest for a moment. Address this clearly. You speak Russian (unlike me) so you can as well understand what he says.
https://youtu.be/vkcFRLQiVGk&t=163 (https://youtu.be/vkcFRLQiVGk&t=163)
Now, are you saying this guy is faking this, that this is not a working magnet-only motor.
lol @3:09 "self running".
velocity remains the same, i.e.: hidden motor.
Fake 100%
Quote from: alan on July 17, 2022, 06:06:20 AM
John 7:17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
1Th. 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
Those are the Angel(s) of Jehovah/the LORD, Spiritual beings being ambassadors of God https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/4729/where-did-the-idea-that-the-law-was-administered-through-angels-come-from
If I test that book against the bible as the word and authority of God and testing standard, then we can conclude that the story is 'false'....
A faithful witness does not lie, but a false witness breathes out lies. Proverbs 14:5 ESVLying is a sin and you are a liar. You lie and lie and lie and you have no regret or shame in it. Only thing that is false is you.
No they are not angels, in most cases they are what bible calls "hosts of heaven" which we are not supposed to worship cause they humans like us, usually of higher planes, since "there are many mansions in my father's house", flesh and blood. Of course, we are not really humans and there is no such thing as humans, there is only consciousness cognizing itself.
I am glad you made reference to Satan, master of lies, your master apparently. Then, if you think bible is the word of God, what are we gonna do with parts of the old testament which are FULL OF SATANISM where supposed "God" says it is ok to sell your daughter into slavery or sacrifice babies and infinitely more of most disgusting stuff spoken by supposed "God". Clearly this is not the same "God" who helped Noah and his people cause this "God" was a group of people from planet Thiaoouba (Jehovah).
So how many "Gods" are there in the bible. Surely not one, even the original it says Elohim (plural) created... Indeed it was the higher mental beings from what might be termed higher etheric realms that created this whole plane of existence for new experience. Of course, ultimately there is only One, but not as you think of It (not him), It in a sense not being male or female, not being a thing, of course. Pure consciousness, as far removed from your concept of "God" as day is from night.
Funny how it bothers you not that bible has been heavily edited and skewed by Roman councils in first 4 centuries AD. Mystical teachings were removed what is left was calibrated for dumbing down the Vatican's sheep, making them be "born in sin", in fear of vengeful "God" and eternal punishment and church as his supposed representatives to which money has to be payed regularly for "sin redemption", very cunning smart business.
You of course never addressed A Wanderer in the Spirit Lands, a true account from other side of grave of incalculable value just like books channeled by Chico Xavier and other Spiritist books. "Demonic", of course. :)
As for Thiaoouba (Jehovah) Prophecy you called "false". My my. If you only knew you are calling "false" those whom you deem to be "God". Time will show you.
Chapter from this great and true book has already been shared in this thread on subject of sunken continent of Mu, the greatest civilization on Earth so far (or at least one of).
https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg560893/#msg560893
As for the story of Adam and Eve, that is much older and goes back some 70 million years as revealed to the Rahma Group, Peru. Of course you think this is "demonic" too :)
But now you will know that original sin was not eating an apple but a fruit from a hallucinogenic tree inside gigantic mothership parked in the middle of the Pacific.
https://prophecyofanrrom.blogspot.com/2020/10/chronology-of-all-times.html
Then, the Pleiadian Geneticists established their great Laboratory-Ship in Lemuria - a continent that has now disappeared located in the Indian Ocean - bringing with them different species of insects and plants from other planets to install and expand the great range that existed in this world. . They also brought with them plants with hallucinogenic properties, which they used to cancel out the accelerated aging process that the Atmosphere of our Planet made them suffer. From relatively evolved primates, with a dose of Pleiadian genes, and through the use of the high genetic engineering of the latter, the first human race was created, whose aim would be to achieve a high evolutionary development, as contemplated in the Cosmic Plan .
Although there are those who believe they have received information that this would have happened a million years ago, others speak of 60 million years. And even, the information received by Talmir, suggests that this happened, not during the Tertiary Era, but at the end of the Secondary: 65 million years ago, or more. (According to scientific sources, at the end of the Secondary Era, the Purgatorius Ceratops, the oldest known primates, already existed - so called because they are contemporaries of the triceratops). Thus, as a result of the experiment, the Elohim obtained a variety of androgynous and hermaphrodite; that is, beings possessed by both sexes. However, this new race was not properly adapted to withstand the conditions on Earth at the time.
The instability of the planet, manifested in continuous and violent volcanic eruptions, added to the unbreathable sulfurous atmosphere and acidic waters, prevented these fragile beings - lacking, in addition, the much needed sense of survival, due to the peaceful life they led within the Lab Ship - could thrive when brought to the surface. For this reason they had to be reconditioned, separating the sexes by high surgery, and modifying their genetics again to make them more resistant.
GADREEL'S BETRAYAL
Once the base of the first Terrestrial Humanity was created, the 7 Genetic Engineers met with the groups of Lemurians in the Laboratory Ship - let us not forget that the gigantic extraterrestrial vehicle functioned as a greenhouse -, and told them:
—You will be able to eat any plant, fruit or seed without contaminating you, but for no reason will you taste the plants found in the Reserved Area, because those species of vegetables are Hallucinogenic Plants. And these could provoke to you visions and perceptions for which you are not yet prepared, and would prevent that in the near future, you develop the faculties that correspond to you to dominate and control, that which goes beyond your physical senses.
»In addition, consuming these Plants would bring about the deterioration of their neurons, initiating an irreversible process of cell death and destruction, which not even we could stop. Their Auras would be equally affected by being torn and would be at the mercy of Entities that are always lurking ... ».
The first Lemurians accepted the recommendation very disciplined not to approach these harmful plants. But one of the Genetic Engineers, an extraterrestrial doctor named Gadriel or Gadreel, had secretly joined Luzbel, and being true to his interests, he sought a way to boycott the program, inducing the first humans to use these forbidden plants.
He met apart with our ancestors and told them: "Try those plants, of which you were advised to keep a reserve." Ignore my companions who are fearful that you may quickly gain power and knowledge. Also, how would science advance without experimentation?
He endorsed them in secret, sponsoring the first experience of drug use by Humanity.
The first Lemurians had a very bad time: their pressure dropped, they felt cold, and when the other Engineers realized the problem, they thought that humans were definitely unpredictable beings, that their curiosity was very dangerous and that they could even put endangering their own safety.
Thus, they decide to abort Project Earth a second time and left in their gigantic Ship.In any case, truth is so different from your silly little narrow belief system you created by misinterpreteing the edited and skewed collection of fantahistory (mix of truth and fantasy) called bible that it will be a shock to you once you face it.
Quotelol @3:09 "self running".
velocity remains the same, i.e.: hidden motor.
Fake 100%
As if you have not spewed enough lies already you lie about this motor as well.
To all regarding the diagram below, do not think of it in linear sense, as if "physical" is big relative to other planes, higher planes are logarithmically larger, if whole spiritual creation with higher mental spheres can be describes as one gigantic sphere of light, let's say 100,000km wide, then all that is "physical" might be seen as finest dust on that gigantic sphere.
Ascension of the Soul, Part 3: The Third Heaven and Great Void (Maha Sunn)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOoLfHb1ZbQ
Nix
In these open source forums are many good builders trying to make magnet motors
Or self running devices of all kinds
They toil for years ... intuitively they know somewhere some day there will be success
As of this writing there are no perpetually running anything ( man made) that has been shared for replication
Unless you have imperial evidence to share with these builders
?
Your 3rd party video evidence holds zero weight "hearsay"
As do other claims which cannot be replicated by builders !
Obviously exotic claims (like Holcomb) are hopefully being sorted !
*to note Holcomb is shipping to happy customers (as members here have shared)
However posting theories of operation with no empirical or ?? Conceptual evidence ??
Is of little value ! ( especially given what you hold to be evidence here ( videos?? Of which there are
Millions !
And not one replication to be had open source!
Just one replication?
If you have no evidence of your own (a gain mechanism on your bench which can be replicated)
Then ,Please invite a builder here whose work or model you support
There will be many interested builders!
However
Most serious open source builders have strong opinions and little tolerance for "movie evidence "
Or "words "
Empirical evidence to support a gain mechanism is mandatory!!
Too much nonsense out there !
Respectfully
Chet K
QuoteYour 3rd party video evidence holds zero weight "hearsay"
It's not my video but your friend's, owner of this forum, video.
Most of those magnet only motors in my playlist altho real are small
power output, they are just proof that it works. I don't suggest
magnet only motors as a way to overunity, altho they can be
made very powerful as in case of Yildiz and Penderev,
there are better ways.
Nix
It is not his video
It is a presentation of another's claims
And this holds zero weight to replicators without disclosure of the gain mechanism!
As mentioned
No replications to date !
Also as mentioned
Hopefully that is going to change soon !!
Respectfully
Chet K
Ps
Your use of friends??
All who carry water for this open source cause are friends by association to same !
And most are not even casual acquaintances to each other
But this cause does bind us !
Edit for below
No I am not kidding ...such a simple arrangement?
I will send video to a few good builders here for opinion
I know it is not his video, but it is his video in a sense he uploaded it.
Zero value? Are you kidding. Guy shows clearly how to pass the sticky
point by putting two magnets at 90 degrees and stacking such pairs.
Or the next video, mechanism is also quite clear, one ring ferrite broken into
6 pieces spread out as stator and 16 small magnets, supposedly all same polarity
on the rotor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oten1viGbo&list=PLS6CmWwu5VGl5al_O94rmKNiuSZs7Loz1&index=3&t=221s
Etc
Please pick one you feel is simplest and undeniable evidence
I will solicit input from ten open source builders these next few days
And report back !
Many I have been wanting to touch base with anyway!
Respectfully
Chet K
Like i said i don't encourage anyone to build these, they work but they are toys.
I doubt they can be scaled up efficiently.
For high power what everyone wants as you know and as everyone here knows
you would need some kind of Perendev or Yildiz replica or something similar which
would be anything but easy to make.
As such
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VydeDvOOSQs&list=PLS6CmWwu5VGl5al_O94rmKNiuSZs7Loz1&index=9&ab_channel=HalimAbdul
Well I went to your link and it highlighted this one with "request of challenge to the engineers "
Problem is ... that one got prime time attention here few years back
And astute engineer observed spring connecting device to Erh... generator
Was indeed torquing spring the wrong way for claimed demonstration ?
Spring twist showed Generator was actually driving the device ( as motor)I believe TinselKoala was first to point that out!
Perhaps
You should pick another ?
I knew you're gonna jump at spring thing, it was the issue from day one
this video was published, some jumped at it claiming spring cannot convey
torque, which is ofc nonsense, but whoever made that observation i agree,
looking at the direction of the spring, it is going CCW from the supposed
generator toward the magnet motor, however, indeed, if magnet motor was
driving the supposed generator spring would be unwinding, so obviously fake.
Another thing, notice most of the magnets in the supposed motor are missing.
This one was just a side example, now removed from the playlist. I'm not gonna pick
another one, i already said as you know well that high power examples are Perendev
and Yildiz, both of which already have many many threads about them here.
And Luling ofc.
Since all this talk of magnet motors, i may also remind of Wankel motor with electromagnet to get past the sticky point.
Or Flynn motor
"A motion producing device using permanent magnets as the source of energy.."
https://patents.google.com/patent/US5254925A/en
https://youtu.be/Vo2-Qb3fUYs (https://youtu.be/Vo2-Qb3fUYs)
https://youtu.be/HOVcinQ-7TQ (https://youtu.be/HOVcinQ-7TQ)
Magnetic fields are conservative so good luck making a perpetual motion runner, it will find a balancing point and stop. Pushing it beyond the barrier costs energy, which is maybe more than what's delivered by going around
Nix
I did not pick that video
It was headliner when I went to your link
And yes obviously ( now once members comment was shared)
A big issue with credibility!!?
And here you present these things as evidence
Calling members who question....? defamatory names and such
Please remember this is global forum
With many members all over planet
We have offered ( still do) many times to witness claims in even very remote places
Members here volunteer to go to places close to them !
Actually the guy in link above ( spring issue guy)was approached for demonstration (was crickets as he had been caught)
Unfortunately many many many ( 3 many's still understatement (probably 1000milliion ?) of these guys try to get money from wishful ,hopeful ,desperate persons!
Or clicks/hits on YouTube
—-//—//::
You mentioned others above ( more famously presented..but still no ??
Independent replications
Yes we are the choir of believers
We need to be respectful of each other and not violate forum etiquette
And
AND
Also be aware it's not our first summer ...we have builders with decades
Of experience ( half century and more in some cases)
All sciences and fields Globally
Open source is a huge asset ...
We need tolerance...screaming ( or insults ,accusations ,etc ...makes no point Except ( assumed weak
Argument!
PLEASE!!
Respectfully
Chet k
Ps I will call some builders as mentioned
One even had some knowledge of Luling ( not sure spelling)
I picked it as example of high power one, now we know it's fake.
I don't know why you're pushing with magnet motors when all has been said,
and this is not a thread for it.
I said 3 times already, of high power ones i know of Perendev, Yildiz and Luling,
all have multiple threads here going back many years. I don't know of any replication.
The thing is they are very delicate as most OU systems, it's easy to fail.
On the subject if OU success is hard, i'd say it's either impossible or very simple.
It's always like that, someone fails and fails for years, clearly, it's impossible for him
then finally succeeds and says it's so simple. Yes, it is from that perspective of acquired
knowledge and experience. But before it it was not hard it was IMPOSSIBLE. So again
it's either impossible or very simple, no betweens.
Sure there are fakes, youtube is full of them and they are usually very easy to spot.
I'd ask you to stop pushing for magnet motor, there are Yildiz, Perendev, Luling and
other threads specifically for that.
I recommend the panel for supervision of moderator or moderation
of "posters" content creators ignoring to respond in format expected by the audience.
Wesley
Look look, disinfo agent dares to speak even after
his filthy lies and deceptions have been exposed.
Magnets can do free work,
No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm sorry magnet cannot work -at all
1. https://youtu.be/nBxQj-nn_fA?t=68
Why magnet motors can not work (part 1)
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_motor
Magnet motor
Wesley
That is the "format expected by the audience" :)
Oh the irony that he talks of ignorance and need for moderation.
Hypocrisy.
I was told this forum has gatekeepers.
Quote from: nix85 on July 17, 2022, 06:17:57 PM
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_motor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_motor)
Magnet motor
Wesley
That is the "format expected by the audience" :)
Oh the irony that he talks of ignorance and need for moderation.
Hypocrisy.
Please respond to this link and provide the prove that Wikipedia article is wrong.
This is one of final attempts to bring your comments to non offensive precise and concise
form of interaction.
Wesley
Quote from: stivep on July 17, 2022, 07:05:40 PM
Please respond to this link and provide the prove that Wikipedia article is wrong...
If you're a disinformer, at least don't be a hypocrite, your "posts" are the very opposite of "non offensive precise and concise form of interaction", full of sleazy adhominems, dodging with total bs like linking to wikipedia article claiming magnet motor is "impossible" or some random dude in pajamas saying the same. Are you kidding.
Ironically, here is another one using similar principle shown in wiki debunking article
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4N4TiOHc-g
And despite seeing all these motors work you still dare to declare 'em "impossible", how dare you spread lies here in this good forum.
Here it is running for 14min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sX_8WT1Ztw
Nix
Here some more
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jsxroTt9IhY (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jsxroTt9IhY)
For many years above movies were posted online by a teacher with no comment to validity
Then he too posted his intent ( to teach)
Unfortunately...many persons fell prey to these and started building to replicate
And when no success.. a new field emerged
Modify this or that
Wallah !!
Hits or views make money in the movie business!!
And yes your above example ( for which you prepare the torch and pitchfork to deniers)
Was also discussed in-depth here ( original one ) and guy had to admit battery drive
Something extremely strange with your path here !
How many will you remove ( after calling for deniers head on stick ?(disinfo etc etc?
Using you tube as evidence of ??
Like you truly are intentionally lowering the forum image to kindergartners status!
YouTube/movie producer FE evidence.... fell off the chart in proof of FE department
day one ( for true research/builders
Empirical evidence... reproducible on the bench
Across the board ( all fields
Gravity,magnet Aether/ ether etc etc
You are not in talking/ gossip club here ?
Persons in open source community invest tremendous efforts ( not talking about those typing copy paste or ??evidence !
Years of sincere scientific effort in all fields ...ON THE BENCH
Doing experiments!
Yeesh...
Note to Alan
Gatekeepers??
You heard there are Gatekeepers here ? ( in open source FE community?
Scientific method is our gate keeper "brutal honesty "
The open source builders and replicators are our "Gate keepers"
Or we can sit with toes in shallow end of FE pool throwing popcorn and gossiping like ...?
—-///—//......
The Talent pool is very deep in FE open source community ...has no limits
in persons ..skill set ...or ability
All fields of science !
On a global scale ..now more than ever !
And look ..we have a real FE device to market :Holcomb
Please keep the bar at similar contributions and
Scientific investigations of same
Not watching cartoon evidence with toes in shallow end of pool throwing popcorn at deniers...
While copy pasting hearsay ( that was so like
"yesterday " !!
pre Holcomb.
The Scientific method ..empirical evidence ( brutal honesty.. backed up on the builders benches !!
Is our gatekeeper!!
And I really do believe our planets health and future hang in the balance!
I also believe Holcomb should be open sourced
Selling to a few fellow passengers on the titanic ?
Won't save the ship ( that mindset went down with the titanic)
Get it out to the world
Open source
ASAP
That's why we're here !!
We might still be able to save her
Our home
Our atmosphere
Our Future!
.
https://www.kryonengine.org/
Quote from: ramset on July 18, 2022, 02:50:13 AM
Nix
Here some more
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jsxroTt9IhY (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jsxroTt9IhY)
For many years above movies were posted online by a teacher with no comment to validity
Then he too posted his intent ( to teach)
Unfortunately...many persons fell prey to these and started building to replicate
And when no success.. a new field emerged
Modify this or that
Wallah !!
Hits or views make money in the movie business!!
That is a well known fake channel, how sleazily you compared
these REAL motors to that faker.
QuoteAnd yes your above example ( for which you prepare the torch and pitchfork to deniers)
Was also discussed in-depth here ( original one ) and guy had to admit battery drive
Something extremely strange with your path here !
How many will you remove ( after calling for deniers head on stick ?(disinfo etc etc?
Oh, really. Why don't you link to that post where maker of this device admitted battery drive............................
Quote
Using you tube as evidence of ??
Like you truly are intentionally lowering the forum image to kindergartners status!
YouTube/movie producer FE evidence.... fell off the chart in proof of FE department
day one ( for true research/builders
Don't be stupid. Youtube, altho cluttered with obvious junk these days as well, was and is full of real OU videos since earliest days, it has helped
A LOT spreading the OU awareness, it is a great tool for builders from many forums sharing their benchwork including this one as well as people sharing their ideas. Then who is "intentionally lowering the forum image to kindergartners status", you are, with your useless rant and fake tears.
Quote
Empirical evidence... reproducible on the bench
Across the board ( all fields
Gravity,magnet Aether/ ether etc etc
You are not in talking/ gossip club here ?
Persons in open source community invest tremendous efforts ( not talking about those typing copy paste or ??evidence !
Years of sincere scientific effort in all fields ...ON THE BENCH
Doing experiments!
I have been a builder in this field for many years, have you built anything, ever, or are you just a blabber. Who then is "throwing popcorn and gossiping"...... you may be Greta Thunberg of OU, supposedly trying to help but really destroying the field.
Chet.
You did not receive any answer carrying essential progressiveness ( supporting move
into perspective direction)
Chet you got his worthless chaos, omitting your science based argumentation,
-as if it didn't exist or you never wrote it.
Nothing Revealed / Everything Denied
-nothing is confronted with counter evidence - but everything is denied with no evidence.
Typical , methods of DISINFORMATION.
Forum is being trashed with nonsense.
Years of my work to lift the value of the platform to the level of international recognition is easily wasted.
Stefan wouldn't be likely happy with the attempts turn it into the place for "lunatics."
recommendation:
The entire topic is to be removed or cleaned by moderator.
Wesley
Anyone intelligent here sees clearly who is a trolling
and spreading lies and unscientific worthless bs while
pretending to supposedly represent "science". Phhh.
His "science" is wikipedia article which says magnet motor
could never work :)
"Nothing Revealed / Everything Denied"
Says he who never revealed anything and DENIES EVERYTHING
from overunity, magnet motors to ether and antigravity.
Filth filth filth, phewww, disgusting.
And when confronted with evidence then as usual.....silence
Then he waits few posts and continues with PERSONAL ATTACKS.
He also keeps pushing that i am a Russian which i am not.
Ofc he did not forget to add those who see all these things are real are "lunatics"
All typical sleazy disinformation methods, nothing new.
"The entire topic is to be removed or cleaned by moderator."
Of course, he wants the thread deleted, why am i not surprized.
Nix and Alan
Presenting you tube vids as evidence with no personal confirmation
Except hunch or something someone claims ?
Or "looks good" ..with no personal investment to support presentation of posted movies?
Asking others to just believe ( like you are an expert ?( with zero proof or even simple bench test example?
Nix you bounce around like it's a game to you ?
Throwing out theories as if based on empirical evidence?
Or redacting on a moment's notice
What was previously a "hill to die on"
??
Here administrator made benches available to moderate builds !
You feel such simple devices work as advertised
Use the bench
Host a build
Or invite claimants to present in a moderated board
The old MIB excuse went out the door the day
Builders were allowed to moderate their own builds here !
Sorry I don't have time to play your games !
And for clarity
I will ask for more input on your topic and claims
At the moment it looks like a tantrum
Youtube videos sometimes are hard evidence when they are so transparent that possibility of fakery is practically zero.
So don't muddy the waters....
FOCUS ON THE CONCRETE
I am asking you now, is this video fake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkcFRLQiVGk&list=PLS6CmWwu5VGl5al_O94rmKNiuSZs7Loz1&index=2&t=639s&ab_channel=overunitydotcom
You know well it's real, but you will however, and i am CERTAIN of this, still pretend to be skeptical....why. If this is fake, then everything we ever saw on internet or read in any book must be fake, it does not get more concrete and real except the personal replication which i call everyone to do if they want to.
Guy clearly shows that key is to force magnets in L shaped pairs and stack them around. And this is just one method.
If anyone is bouncing around, playing games and on a tantrum it's you
with your useless Greta Thunberg like rants.
I just gave great examples that magnet motors are real as time will prove.
AND FUNNY HOW YOU "FORGOT" TO LINK TO THE POST WHERE MAKER OF THAT VIDEO SUPPOSEDLY ADMITTED USING BATTERY...........
I understand, I'll stop slowchatting ideas.
Flamebots: Let it go. :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkcFRLQiVGk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkcFRLQiVGk&list=PLS6CmWwu5VGl5al_O94rmKNiuSZs7Loz1&index=2&t=639s&ab_channel=overunitydotcom)
has a motor - or something else - this is clearly visible at 3:06
Quote from: alan on July 18, 2022, 11:46:21 AM
I understand, I'll stop slowchatting ideas.
Flamebots: Let it go. :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkcFRLQiVGk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkcFRLQiVGk&list=PLS6CmWwu5VGl5al_O94rmKNiuSZs7Loz1&index=2&t=639s&ab_channel=overunitydotcom)
has a motor - or something else - this is clearly visible at 3:06
Ha, rotor magnets are repelled by stator magnets on the left side
and attracted to stator magnets on the right side. No motor.
Nix
Search for topic here yourself
It's in a dedicated thread
And no
I don't except you tube vids as proof of anything
Thousands of hours spent by replicators chasing
??
If you have magnetic anomalies on your bench
SHARE THEM !!
Just one will do
You seem to have incredible amount of play time
I don't
Edit for Nix" lying again" comment below !
Now you play a more serious game of defamation !
And definitely just a fellow making flame wars to disrupt !!
Quote from: nix85 on July 18, 2022, 11:50:48 AM
Ha, rotor magnets are repelled by stator magnets on the left side
and attracted to stator magnets on the right side. No motor.
or that. lol, my bad, didn't notice that.
doesn't seem very high-tech, any replications?
Quote
"Search for topic here yourself
:D
Ramset ramset, did i just catch you lying again....
You made a defamatory claim, now BACK IT UP.
QuoteI don't except you tube vids as proof of anything
You should when they are real.
QuoteIf you have magnetic anomalies on your bench
SHARE THEM !!
You know well i am into resonant induction as i shared much
of my efforts here. And you never answered did you ever actually
build anything or you just rant like Gretta.
QuoteYou seem to have incredible amount of play time
I don't
You are known for your kilometer long rants,
seems you got more than enough play time.
I'm , speechless
Wesley
There, how nicely troll exposes himself, personal attacks is all he ever had.
Too bad he can't read
"i was OCD too" referring to far past, never a serious issue for me
Still preying on eastern European teen girls?
https://youtu.be/Uugr-ElDoMk?t=548
"it's ok, don't worry about it"..."i'm from NY, America"
(i got a lots of $$$, you know....)
If you say you're from NY one more time maybe they'll get interested too :D
Another possibly coincidental topic titled :
nix85's Achievements
Posted February 14, 2019
closed by administrator for its nonsense while overwhelmingly attended by person with nick name nix85
QuoteModerator Note
This is
(a) nonsense and
(b) off topic.
Thread closed.
If you want to make claims like this, do it in the Speculations forum and be prepared to provide evidence.
https://www.scienceforums.net/topic/118022-can-field-of-a-stronger-magnet-pass-through-the-opposing-weaker-magnet/?do=findComment&comment=1093350
(https://www.scienceforums.net/topic/118022-can-field-of-a-stronger-magnet-pass-through-the-opposing-weaker-magnet/?do=findComment&comment=1093350)Wesley
Just like magnet motor is "nonsense" :)
nix85
QuoteIf anyone is bouncing around, playing games and on a tantrum it's you
with your useless Greta Thunberg like rants.
Your analogy is telling...
Sure Greta may be young and a girl which is two strikes for many living in the dark ages but that doesn't mean she's wrong. Every year the evidence to support Climate Change grows with countless new records being set. This isn't even our most immediate problem and the documentary "Kiss the Ground" suggests most farmland will be depleted of carbon/nutrients and barren within 70 crop cycles.
So yeah, I also get a little annoyed when misinformed people try to suggest all is well and nothing is wrong. We could also point out almost all the naysayers are under educated, almost ready for the geriatric ward and have little too lose. So Climate Change isn't a "millennial" thing it's more of a misinformed people destroying the planet for profit thing.
A better question is why are so few people not alarmed at the direction were heading?.
So I think it's pretty cool that a little girl can walk into a room and make a bunch of entitled old men look like fools. You know she's on the right track by the fact all these populists get triggered and completely lose there mind. I mean, supposedly grown men getting all red in the face, hurling obscenities and portraying her as some kind of demon, wtf?. The fact remains that real men with any kind of integrity don't attack little girls. If you have a point to make, make it but demonizing children is a no fucking go zone in my opinion.
Regards
AC
To: onepower
Yes, absolutely true Thank you very much
Wesley
@onepower
And so is yours.
Firstly, i never said climate issue is not a real problem, altho, in reality, Earth and this whole solar system is passing through, let's call it, more energetic region of space and this will increase for following few thousand of years.
So of course she is telling the truth, obviously, they are polluting everything with fossil fuels and even worse nuclear etc, even worse is the psychic pollution, but that is again "too far out".
The point is, the way she goes hysterical about it only incites mockery in those low-awareness oligarchs she is supposedly trying to wake up, they are surely not gonna change anything cause of her.
Actual help is of course through standardization of overunity devices but that cannot happen yet cause of low level of public awareness and morality (and high selfishness of toilet paper grabbing populace).
I am surely not one of those demonizing her, i know her tantrums are pointless cause she aint gonna change them, they only laugh at her. Besides, altho it appears so, they are not really in power, Average Joe is.
And those who question the whole Greta story have better sight than those who fall for the obvious, poor little girl trying to save the world....or is it another control of the narrative like Alex Jones madness.
Those serious about eco issues see her as doing more harm than actually helping the issue.
Real men don't attack anyone unless first attacked, and before all, they read between the lines.
nix85
QuoteReal men don't attack anyone unless first attacked, and before all, they read between the lines.
Real men do not attack children in any sense of the word, period, end of debate...
We can disagree with the message which is perfectly acceptable. However demonizing any children which has been proven to incite psychotic MF's to go into our schools with automatic weapons and slaughter them is completely offside.
QuoteAnd those who question the whole Greta story have better sight than those who fall for the obvious, poor little girl trying to save the world....or is it another control of the narrative like Alex Jones madness.
Now your comparing a teenage girl who gets emotional about her future and the planet to Alex Jones?. My god this is exactly the thing I'm talking about. She's a little teenage girl from Sweden not some douche bag inciting people to overthrow the government so he can profit.
Leave our god damn children out of this and stop demonizing them.
Regards
AC
Nix85
QuoteFirstly i did not attack her, nor "demonize" her, i only used her example,
as an example of useless rant and POSSIBLY a controlled narrative.
Right, hold on a minute I need to grab the shotgun because a pig just flew over my house.
AC
Back to the topic. I believe RCL can give excess energy but only as a way of tapping unknown source of energy.
Quote from: onepower on July 18, 2022, 05:48:12 PM
Nix85
Right, hold on a minute I need to grab the shotgun because a pig just flew over my house.
AC
Right, be careful not to shoot the mirror. nix85
Quote from: forest on July 19, 2022, 10:23:35 AM
Back to the topic. I believe RCL can give excess energy but only as a way of tapping unknown source of energy.
Yes. absolutely true.
Resonant circuit can act as an interface.
Wesley
Quote from: stivep on July 19, 2022, 10:03:20 PM
Yes. absolutely true.
Resonant circuit can act as an interface.
Wesley
please show proof regarding the claim.
The method should resemble in a whole the process of getting heat by heat pump. Just the medium is different, like Tesla said :
Imagine a wire immersed in a medium, the conductivity of which would be some function of the frequency and potential difference but such, that the conductivity increases when either or bout of these elements are increased. In such a medium, the higher the frequency and potential difference, the greater wilt be the current which will find its way through the surrounding medium, and the smaller the part which will pass through the central portion of the wire: In the case of a wire immersed in air and traversed by a high-frequency current, the facility with which the energy is dissipated may be considered as the equivalent of the conductivity; and the analogy would be quite complete, were it not that besides the air another medium is present, the total dissipation being merely modified by the presence of the air to an extent as yet not ascertained.[/size]
I just noticed that the name of the biggest energy disinfo project in history
called ITER is pronounced same as ETHER. Coincidence you think.
I doubt, those who own the masses like to have fun, rare will understand
the full meaning of these words.
nix
Forest made a good analogy to heat pump, or as Tesla called it a "sink" for the ether.
So goal is to polarize this subtle medium, create inbalance in it, some kind of assymetry, to make it flow through our system.
Again reminds me of ATREE, such great principle, two paths for ether of different length/resistance along the same rod making the ether in one channel reach the bottom before the other and this imbalance creating induction in the secondary. Sadly no known replications.
What is ITER?
https://www.iter.org/proj/inafewlines
bi
Speaking of ITER, i read, i think it was in Suppressed_&_Incredible_Inventions
that fusion overunity (more out than in) was achieved in the 60s and immediately
classified top secret.
Dangerous and not needed.
Quote from: magnet1c on July 20, 2022, 01:44:47 PM
the biggest energy disinfo //in history
nix
nix, nix85 , nixx85 or whatever nick name you are using.
When I said I may start to moderate
disinfo , you called me with names and implementing me delusion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITER (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITER)Wesley
Quote from: stivep on July 20, 2022, 02:45:10 PM
nix, nix85 , nixx85 or whatever nick name you are using.
When I said I may start to moderate disinfo , you called me with names and implementing delusion.
It was so many times in the past I was contributing to "untrolling" efforts
You are not, taking total ban with supervision into consideration I assume.
Wesley
There's the troll again trying to destroy a good thread.
still deluded that he is a mod here when in reality he
needs to be permabanned.
I don't know why is this guy tolerated,
He claims that ether, magnet motors, overunity, antigravity etc are all "bs".Despite the fact that none of these are bs, despite the fact that magnet
motors work....
Now he dares attack me for saying ITER is disinfo. And what is ITER,
supposedly seeking energy solution for the world, if that is the case,
how come they overlooked all the next to free solutions. There is nothing
new about fusion research, it is but a smokescreen for the public, to
make it appear as if they're trying. They know well magnets are
source of energy, no need for expensive and dangerous fusion.
How come they don't invest 25 billion $ into Holcomb...
This forum really needs mods, what he is doing should not be allowed.
the original statement was:
Quote from: forest on July 19, 2022, 10:23:35 AM
Back to the topic. I believe RCL can give excess energy but only as a way of tapping unknown source of energy.
my response was:
Quote from: stivep on July 19, 2022, 10:03:20 PM
Yes. absolutely true.
Resonant circuit can act as an interface.
Quote from: alan on July 20, 2022, 09:13:02 AM
please show proof regarding the claim.
tapping unknown
source of energy doesn't talk about - unknown
form of energy.
But in any case if LRC circuit can sense it and couple into it ,than it becomes an interface between the energy from the source and that energy sensing apparatus( including loads)
Wesley
Even if we forget all other lies, just his claim that magnet only motors are impossible is enough.
Mister
N
Tomorrow I will email you when I get Email
Or you already have my Email
?
ChetKremens@gmail.com
Been in my profile since day one here!
PLEASE!!
Quote from: magnet1c on July 20, 2022, 03:19:27 PM
Even if we forget all other lies, just his claim that magnet only motors are impossible is enough.
Ken W. is saying the same, I believe in this video: https://youtu.be/xFLDsyrlTG4 (https://youtu.be/xFLDsyrlTG4)
Quote from: alan on July 22, 2022, 10:47:02 AM
Ken W. is saying the same, I believe in this video: https://youtu.be/xFLDsyrlTG4 (https://youtu.be/xFLDsyrlTG4)
Brilliant skills in formulating
total nonsense by mixing proven physical phenomena to the public that can hear and recognize words
like Tesla, Heaviside , Larmor frequencies , ether, .
example:
"Dielectric acceleration conventionally called gravity." - what is of course the total nonsense
here:
https://youtu.be/xFLDsyrlTG4?t=680 (https://youtu.be/xFLDsyrlTG4?t=680)Explanation
word:
conventionally= (traditional and ordinary) has nothing to do with physics
Physics is based on precised models,
Gravity is explained here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity)
Dielectric Wall Accelerator (DWA is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dielectric_wall_accelerator (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dielectric_wall_accelerator#:~:text=A%20Dielectric%20Wall%20Accelerator%20%28DWA%29%20is%20a%20compact,which%20is%20constructed%20mostly%20from%20a%20dielectric%20material.)
_______________________________________________________A guy who happen to be also "fat, tattoo, carrier," without use of teleprompter, talks to the typical "nonscientific" listener at twice speed of typical youtube video.
He makes some good statements about, overunity and perpetual motion , immediately mixing it with word "ether" and limiting his statement to " nonsense of overunity but for mechanical devices. only"
After watching this video most of you are possibly lazy to examine with internet his every sentence.
Without specifically directed education there is no solid base for listener to realize that :
most of ingredients of the salt are real but the mix is absolutely wrong, and essentially not healthy to your perception.
Wesley
Well, at least he agrees with you regarding PM magnet contraption.
He has invented this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9yzaoZh0nc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9yzaoZh0nc)
I didn't care about ether, but he made me wonder.
Continuation of my comment from above:
Hopers, dreamers, amateurs, half baked enthusiasts, professionals to be- but not yet.
All of you are value to this forum.
But you need to know that disinformation is spread by :
e.g Russian trolls, and paid by them real good English speakers.
Their agenda is often proven by old practice.
Uneducated and confused crowd is easy to convince and maneuver.
The educated one were
terminated in ,e.g Katyn
send to Gulag or Siberia
- individuals like nix, evolving to nixx85 and than to magnet1c.
can be a product of disinformation, or brainwash or paid to make you one.
"traveling" back in time is just fantasy and doesn't exist
overunity doesn't exist,
perpetual motion doesn't exist and doesn't make sense to earn nothing.
"anti-gravity" doesn't exist,
Ether/eather doesn't exist,
Magnet can't perform work
https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/661513/can-magnetic-field-do-work (https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/661513/can-magnetic-field-do-work)
God/gods "ideas", "concepts", ,
are in conflict with modern science and are rejected by means of being not recognized.
e.g geology, geophysics, natural history, paleontology, archeology, biology,
(Darwin, physics)
philosophy:
Science of physics - is not based on religion nor beliefs but solid models
But you have rights to believe in anything you want, including Hitler, Putin, Angles, Devils, heaven
and other nonsense ... from physics stand point.
I wish you the best.
Wesley
I disagree with nix but he isn't a russian troll. Are you?
God/gods "ideas", "concepts", ,
are in conflict with modern science and are rejected by means of being not recognized.
e.g geology, geophysics, natural history, paleontology, archeology, biology,
(Darwin, physics)
philosophy:
Science of physics - is not based on religion nor believes but solid models
lolol
all scientists of the day that laid the foundations were believers, especially Maxwell and Newton, and Maxwell believed in an ether.
Do you know who wrote the big book Tesla reads in front of his huge coil?
"anti-gravity" doesn't exist,
But is actively being researched, lookup quantum inertia, it's a darpa funded research.
Quote from: stivep on July 23, 2022, 11:26:10 AM
"anti-gravity" doesn't exist,
Why, when we get rid of the body. This will.
The body is like weights on the legs. Pulls us to the ground. :)
Quote from: alan on July 23, 2022, 11:56:26 AM
I disagree with nix but he isn't a russian troll. Are you?
I never said he is.
I'm nobody- I only exist as value in minds of these who finds value in me.
including my own wife :)
________________________________________
Quote from: alan on July 23, 2022, 11:56:26 AM
God/gods "ideas", "concepts", ,
are in conflict with modern science and are rejected by means of being not recognized.
e.g geology, geophysics, natural history, paleontology, archeology, biology,
(Darwin, physics)
philosophy:
Science of physics - is not based on religion nor beliefs but solid models
all scientists of the day that laid the foundations were believers, especially Maxwell and Newton, and Maxwell believed in an ether.
Do you know who wrote the big book Tesla reads in front of his huge coil?
Citizens of Russia aren't all good or bad nor educated or not- it is diversity like in any country.
But Russia exists in its
recognizable form.
Scientists aren't/weren't seen as believers or not but as physical value contributors to
conservative physics.their diversity was not important to
recognizable form of physics.Quote from: alan on July 23, 2022, 11:56:26 AM"anti-gravity" doesn't exist,
But is actively being researched, lookup quantum inertia, it's a darpa funded research.
Yes.
I was in DARPA programs as principal investigator and chief of scientific team.
That only says that someone designated monetary value to prove again that models in
physics are valid .
Wesley
..
Gravity.:
Quote from: kolbacict on July 23, 2022, 11:57:26 AM
Why, when we get rid of the body. This will.
The body is like weights on the legs. Pulls us to the ground. :)
mass is undeniable cause of gravity and
Quotegravity (from Latin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_language) gravitas 'weight'[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity#cite_note-1))
is a fundamental interaction (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_interaction) which causes mutual attraction
between all things with mass (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass) or energy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity)
Entire concept of
Big Bang is based on conversion energy to mass.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang)
Wesley
Over unity
Free Energy
Regardless the terms , the goal here is "WE"don't pay,
Our environment has certainly been paying
As well our planet ( extraordinary cost).
Well,
most builder /researchers here are paying attention,and regardless the source of FE
be it gravity , magnets
Or petunias or ?
If it's a claim that community can test on the bench...
So be it
Grab a bench like many others have ( and still are )
And rally the many open source builders
No fuzzy excuses about .....__?_...
—-//——-
Here we have something very few have to offer (only one other I am aware of is Overunity Research Forum)
Here You are builder and moderator if you chose to share a claim.
No interference ,
Only issue is the many builders here have tremendous amount of bench time ...
Some decades or half century ( or more in some cases)
And along with that comes a tremendous asset AND brutal honesty!
No excuses
And BTW
There is only one administrator here , who holds ability to regulate access to venue!
Stefan!
—///—///——-
IMO
All the walls are falling ( lack of understanding of this world we inhabit)
DNA code is the keys to the city of all living things
Nothing will be impossible in near future regarding this.
And similar with all things big and small and what manages that reality
What makes a stone a stone ...
Soon I believe we will crack that reality too (we are well on the way
IMO
There will come a time where here in this world
All things will indeed be possible!
It seems our path and destiny ..it is as if we play in someone's Tool box
unaware !
So
If You have a Free Energy claim ?
Share it in a dedicated / moderated builders topic for replication !
A topic which "You" moderate!
Any anomalous gain mechanism will do !
Respectfully
Chet K
Edit for below
Ps to captain Kolbacict
We already have that aging problem in the sights (DNA program)
Quote from: stivep on July 23, 2022, 12:54:06 PM
Gravity.:mass is undeniable cause of gravity and
Not. I meant when the soul is finally freed from the body, it will receive complete freedom, including from gravity.
But we all cling to our old, decrepit bodies, we are afraid of losing them. :D
Quote from: kolbacict on July 24, 2022, 12:01:57 PM
Not. I meant when the soul is finally freed from the body, it will receive complete freedom, including from gravity.
But we all cling to our old, decrepit bodies, we are afraid of losing them. :D
Science of physics has nothing to do with "soul"
and doesn't recognize "soul"
Moreover it don't understand what kind of specious,
misleading · deceptive · false · fallacious · unsound · casuistic · sophistic phenomena "soul" belongs too.
By that
zero of physicists in entire world can find physical model supporting it.I understand that it hurts your own and many other people feelings but
unfortunately your statement in physics world is just another twisted
nonsense.
for clarity:
Ether/Eather - is an old rejected and outdated concept
but
God and religion was never even qualified to the level of a concept nor a model in modern science of physics.
On the other hand
:) supported by me and my wife :) - LGBT scientists are rejected by Church
that uses made or designed by them cellphones. apps, condoms and other gadgets . 8)
Gay clothing brands, and
gay fashion designers are among most needed in Vatican.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:LGBT_fashion_designers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:LGBT_fashion_designers)
for clarity
I'm Jewish.
But physics doesn't care about it too.
So why care about physics that doesn't care about us?
Because physics is the only
verifiable truth pushing you up to advanced civilization for sure!~!!!!!!!!
Wesley
There is something more...
An unknown piece ,
here many give credence to Tesla's writings!
He wrote some odd things ...referencing a "spiritual "
Or unseen source of knowledge.
Where this "spiritual " part... he said "as yet not acknowledged by science"
Would advance science as never before ( in a very very short time)
Once this "connection " is made !
This is not a physics forum,
yes most all researchers who are serious
Utilize the scientific method !
However there is also this weirdness about our world,
This seeming intelligence as we look closer , an order
DNA the Mandelbrot set... this language of math and language of life "DNA" does taunt !
And our reality and very existence defies belief ( our green jewel of a life filled planet ...in the void and horrors of space !
It is the antithesis of all around us (in visible universe)
An itch that just can't be scratched comfortably with theories and bangs!
Even quotes from the most brilliant scientists who wrote these theories ..have written their own unsettled thoughts about such ..
Mysteries ?
IMO it is futile to dismiss all not seen as " just not there"
Science embraces things which seem more like a science fiction comic book ?
Things That I never imagined I would read in scientific journals ,string theories , multiverses , many dimensions etc etc
It's just not cut and dried !
However it does benefit us to use science to measure claims .
Unfortunately
I can't agree that the unseen or for lack of a better word
"Spiritual "should be dismissed !
It may someday become an "awareness""?" within humanity !
Just kicking things around
Outside the box ....
Here we're aloud to do that !
Just paying attention!!
Respectfully
Chet K
Edit
Gravity FE
Impossible?
https://overunity.com/19165/the-breakthrough-in-free-energy-a-system-that-cannot-be-debunked/msg569166/#new (https://overunity.com/19165/the-breakthrough-in-free-energy-a-system-that-cannot-be-debunked/msg569166/#new)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uTbIJnEOw8Y (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uTbIJnEOw8Y)
Wayne doesn't think so !
Where do thoughts come from, where does insight come from?
When you understand that it must be done this way, and these this way.
And then everything will work... When a new thing is born.
This is definitely was not written in the physics textbooks that we learned.
And in our previous life experience, this was not the case either.
stivep:
It is not scientists who reject God, they are opponents such as LGBT who are interrupted by God. Why are these people devastating the churches? because not out of boredom and not out of stupidity.
However, if he is a scientist, he probably says it on his own behalf, although it has already happened in history that people denied many things and then withdrew. A true scientist should not be limited to what he knows now.
As for the soul, science has long established by simply measuring body weight that it is 20 grams lighter at death. which suggests it is nothing physical.
dla dokładności:
To nie naukowcy odrzucają Boga to jego przeciwnicy tacy jak LGBT któremu Bóg przeszkadza. Dlaczego ci ludzie dewastują Kościoły ? bo nie z nudów i nie z głupoty.
Jeśli jednak jest to naukowiec to mówi to w swoim imieniu zapewne choć bywało już w historii, że ludzie negowali wiele spraw, a potem się wycofywali. Prawdziwy naukowiec nie powinien być ograniczony do tego co teraz wie.
Co do duszy to już dawno nauka stwierdziła przez prosty pomiar wagi ciała, że w momencie śmierci jest lżejsze o 20gr. co sugeruje, że nie jest to nic fizycznego.
Christianity teaches from the bible that we are a unity of body, soul and spirit. Body is the machine, soul is your personal being (comprises of thinking, emotions, feelings, personality), spirit is the invisible wind from God that makes the body a living soul.
Thank you for your comments.
All of it doesn't change a fact that :
1. PHYSICS IS DOING VERY WELL WITHOUT GOD (all the time)
2. RELIGION was always interfering with progress of physics' e.g Copernicus
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Nicolaus-Copernicus
3. nothing you are using today to communicate with me came from God/Gods.
- but we may believe to be the opposite.
4. Physical world exists around us without us.
God/Gods for us, can only exist in the inside of our minds as nonphysical value believed to be affecting physical world.
-and without believers becomes lost, unknown,
-and without written books become unrecoverable never existing value.
5. Rediscovering physics is normal, common, and natural without any external influence.
Rediscovering God and its historical facts can't be done,and is a value permanently lost forever if we
wake up tomorrow knowing nothing about it. - without an external influence.
Summary:
World without believers in God/gods can exist pretty well but
God without believers can't.
So despite /regardless of our approach to our spiritual values, and our comfort of being uniquely independent
in our emotional approach to God/Gods - it is Physics that makes you and your life verifiably (https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=d17267fa793e65deJmltdHM9MTY1ODc0ODAwOCZpZ3VpZD0yNjE3ZDI4ZS0zOWQxLTRjOWMtODgyYy1kNDc0YzkyOTM4MzImaW5zaWQ9NTQ5NQ&ptn=3&hsh=3&fclid=bd428b7f-0c0b-11ed-8c1c-dd47b5ae8b24&u=a1L3NlYXJjaD9xPXZlcmlmaWFibHkmRk9STT1BV1JF&ntb=1) more advanced.
You have your, toilet, birth control pills, cellphone, computer, Mars rovers and coronavirus vaccine
due to physical action of scientists and when you sick you go to hospital not to Church.
Please don't take it as my position pro or against the subject in question.
I don't take sides.
Wesley
Hi,
Read the attached file for Lunkster's thoughts about God.
Lunkster
Here it needs to stay on forum theme !
Flame wars cause issues
Religion politics and sports are always a brawl waiting to happen ..
And fortunately all who seriously search for FE have standards of brutal honesty ( scientific method "prove it"
If no Replication ?
Just hearsay or measurement errors or conceptual error!
Even Wayne Travis understands how ridiculous his
Gravity powered claim is to laws /theories of physics!
It's impossible!
https://overunity.com/19165/the-breakthrough-in-free-energy-a-system-that-cannot-be-debunked/msg569166/#new (https://overunity.com/19165/the-breakthrough-in-free-energy-a-system-that-cannot-be-debunked/msg569166/#new)
Maybe the customers will disagree?
Same logic must apply to Holcomb..
As it was with laws of physics and flight ( heresy/blasphemy to physics laws/theories of the day!
Until it wasn't....
Respectfully
Chet K
Science has become like a religion: just trust it and don't question the dogma's. ahaha
Vatican was called to reform for a reason, they didn't because they liked their power over the ignorant. The reformed Christians found freedom from the theological suppression and founded the ivy league.
Science is rediscovering the ether step by step by proof instead of by claim, but they give it different names.
Alan
IMO
Science is always open to new possibilities
Every university competes and hunts for new
Additions to knowledge base !
The competition is greater now than ever
Ultimately results (?reproducible verification)
Determine acceptance of new discovery/claims!
It's the Wild West out there ATM in science world!!
Respectfully
Chet K
I agree, but the community today isn't always interested in new possibilities and ideas, that's what this ZPE researcher experienced: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tGRhTXKh8A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tGRhTXKh8A)
Quote from: stivep on July 25, 2022, 07:35:19 AM
... when you sick you go to hospital not to Church.
If you believed so much in God you wouldn't need a hospital. However, God cannot work miracles all the time, and that is why he told us to build hospitals.
Where did physics come from? If the universe is 13.5 billion years old, why not 1000 billion? because it is still some number, that is, it was the beginning. Start out of nothing? come on.
If you are a Christian or a Jew, Museuman, your faith is God. There are some who don't believe but that's what they owe to God. How ironic that is.
Quote from: alan on July 25, 2022, 06:08:19 AM
Christianity teaches from the bible that we are a unity of body, soul and spirit. Body is the machine, soul is your personal being (comprises of thinking, emotions, feelings, personality), spirit is the invisible wind from God that makes the body a living soul.
here is an answer to your own statements contradicting you based on your own words.#1:
Quote from: alan on June 09, 2008, 08:56:24 AM
Burn this heretic! :P
If OU exists, then it will be proven, if not, then the proof will be wrong..
Only with proof the world will change, unless you enjoy getting a deep insight to the workings of the wheel an reinventing it.
#2
Quote from: alan on October 30, 2008, 09:40:42 AM
Incredible claims need incredible proof, until then it's based on believe.
I assume you talking about science here, throwing out any form of beliefs as
rejectable by its concept.#3
Quote from: alan on November 01, 2008, 12:15:46 PM
Smells like Jesuit propaganda ;)
#4
Quote from: alan on November 03, 2008, 10:10:44 AM
Good points.
To keep it short:
I see science as proving yourself (or your hypotheses being) wrong.
If you cant prove it wrong, it is correct, at least for the time being.
This demands discipline.
#5
Quote from: alan on March 09, 2008, 05:01:58 PM
just keep voting for Ron Paul 8)
Wesley
Nice hahaha. I didn't believe back then.
Jesuit propaganda, don't know why I mentioned that.
Body, soul, spirit isn't that mystical: flesh, self, animation energy.
Ron Paul is a missed opportunity for the US.
Quote from: alan on July 25, 2022, 02:41:29 PM
Jesuit propaganda, don't know why I mentioned that.
Body, soul, spirit isn't that mystical: flesh, self, animation energy.
Very in solidarity with you!
The soul is immortal, not everyone has!
Spirit is a program, speaking in engineering terms, an artificial self-learning intelligence for managing mental and physical actions. Actually, ROD is female and male, everyone has it.
The physical body or shell that the SPIRIT serves.
If there is no Soul, then the person is a zombie.
Ok guys go back to bench.
If you physically don't perform, and physically don't educate yourself
no physical gain will be ever possible for you.
and that's fact
I spend years enjoying science as the best entertainment, ever.
I was trying to attract you
to working concept, but you
the believers did nothing - expecting proof of the concept in form of IKEA bookshelf with manual.
Dr Hans was laughing from my effort.
quote:
QuoteStatistically "Converts," from one form of reality to the other (e.g into spirituality) , are physically these who gets older.
Because it is convenient to their fears.
There are no believers when it comes to money .
They will likely move their butts, if I give you OK to publish the device as integrated piece - solid and explained
yet easily replicable.
But many of them don't even understand all processes of coffeemaker.
Don't waste your time Wesley on believers,
they are likely the very core of disbelieve, likely disappointed in their previous experience.
78% of all inventions were done by young people.
They still see their future in education.
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560346/#msg560346 (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560346/#msg560346)2.
https://overunity.com/18913/in-russian-ekspierimienty-po-biesprovodnoi-pieriedachie-enierghii-doska-stroitieliei/msg560156/#msg560156 (https://overunity.com/18913/in-russian-ekspierimienty-po-biesprovodnoi-pieriedachie-enierghii-doska-stroitieliei/msg560156/#msg560156)As far as me:
I respect every value in every form that is important to you.
Wesley
r2fpl
QuoteWhere did physics come from? If the universe is 13.5 billion years old, why not 1000 billion? because it is still some number, that is, it was the beginning. Start out of nothing? come on.
We should be clear the known universe is theorized to be 13.5 billion years old. We don't know how big the actual universe is or how old it is.
QuoteIf you are a Christian or a Jew, Museuman, your faith is God. There are some who don't believe but that's what they owe to God. How ironic that is.
What's ironic is that the Sumerians, which was the first known civilization, invented the concept of god(s) to describe beings from the stars ie. Aliens. This was over 4000 years before Christianity or Islam were even invented. So in fact all religions are really based on ancient civilizations who worshiped aliens. However most believers don't believe in alien beings from other worlds, the very thing there actually worshiping...*facepalm*.
Regards
AC
Quote from: onepower on July 26, 2022, 01:12:00 AM
r2fpl
We should be clear the known universe is theorized to be 13.5 billion years old. We don't know how big the actual universe is or how old it is.
What's ironic is that the Sumerians, which was the first known civilization, invented the concept of god(s) to describe beings from the stars ie. Aliens. This was over 4000 years before Christianity or Islam were even invented. So in fact all religions are really based on ancient civilizations who worshiped aliens. However most believers don't believe in alien beings from other worlds, the very thing there actually worshiping...*facepalm*.
Regards
AC
There is no evidence of an alien civilization. Man has long been asking the question of where he came from.
If the aliens land in front of your house tomorrow, it still does not explain that God does not exist. The same question also applies to aliens where they came from.
Someone had to be first, but even he wonders where he came from.
Quote from: r2fpl on July 26, 2022, 03:08:58 AM
There is no evidence of an alien civilization.
onepower only talks about invention of "God" by Sumerians, who for whatever reason mentioned Aliens.
So Aliens didn't or don't have to exist.
By that
evidence or, no evidence of an alien civilization is not important.
and exactly the same is with concept of God:
there is no evidence that God exists apart from pure past and present speculation,fluctuating due to clergy convenience and money flow.
(e.g acceptance of LGBT and killings in wars by religious soldiers)
10 commandments ( "don't kill" ) but clergy ( Patriarch, Kirill head of Church in Russia )
says
~ "kill them good and we will bless it."
I hope r2fpl you understand it now.
here is the quote.
Quote from: onepower on July 26, 2022, 01:12:00 AM
r2fpl
Sumerians, which was the first known civilization, invented the concept of god(s) to describe beings from the stars ie. Aliens. This was over 4000 years before Christianity or Islam were even invented.
Regards
AC
Legal note: this post is my own opinion and interpretation only, according to constitution of USA.~ symbol means -"more or less"Wesley
Quote from: onepower on July 26, 2022, 01:12:00 AM
r2fpl
We should be clear the known universe is theorized to be 13.5 billion years old. We don't know how big the actual universe is or how old it is.
What's ironic is that the Sumerians, which was the first known civilization, invented the concept of god(s) to describe beings from the stars ie. Aliens. This was over 4000 years before Christianity or Islam were even invented. So in fact all religions are really based on ancient civilizations who worshiped aliens. However most believers don't believe in alien beings from other worlds, the very thing there actually worshiping...*facepalm*.
Regards
AC
Genesis 10 mentions this birth of sumeria, genesis 11 mentions briefly its growth, oneness and fall. They were the first that worshiped the heavens and heavenlies, anunaki.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/h8152/kjv/wlc/0-1/ (https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/h8152/kjv/wlc/0-1/)
Would you mind defining the word 'God' ?
Or are you using old Roman mythology or are you by any chance referring to the 'creator' ?
Sil
Yes the omnipresent Creator and eternal spirit of life and light.
"By the word of the LORD the heavens were made, their starry host by the breath of his mouth."
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. [...] And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us"
https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-study/topical-studies/15-amazing-attributes-of-god-what-they-mean-and-why-they-matter.html (https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-study/topical-studies/15-amazing-attributes-of-god-what-they-mean-and-why-they-matter.html)
r2fpl
QuoteThere is no evidence of an alien civilization. Man has long been asking the question of where he came from.
If the aliens land in front of your house tomorrow, it still does not explain that God does not exist. The same question also applies to aliens where they came from.
I think the comedian Ricky Gervais said it best...
QuoteThere have been nearly 3000 Gods so far but only yours actually exists.The others are silly made up nonsense. But not yours. Yours is real.
It's the best because he explains the nature of the problem. Many people judge others with one set of rules but themselves with a different set of rules. They believe all kinds of nonsense with no proof but demand irrefutable proof from everyone else. They break the rules every chance they get then condemn anyone else who does the same. The word hypocrite comes to mind...
Regards
AC
What a ton of BS on this thread.
It started with "aether" and now going on discussion regarding "gods" and "aliens" :o
If you want to believe in UFOs, you have the right to do so.
What is good for you from this?
Well you said it! read the book of Enoch that was a book originally in the bible in that it's all about Ezekiel and others
ascending in chariots of fire with thunderous noise emitted from them etc ext !
Or was it all american swamp gas ;D :D ;) :)?
Sil
PS on another note have you found any device that actually works yet
Quote from: alan on July 26, 2022, 06:53:11 PM
Yes the omnipresent Creator and eternal spirit of life and light.
"By the word of the LORD the heavens were made, their starry host by the breath of his mouth."
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. [...] And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us"
https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-study/topical-studies/15-amazing-attributes-of-god-what-they-mean-and-why-they-matter.html (https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-study/topical-studies/15-amazing-attributes-of-god-what-they-mean-and-why-they-matter.html)
I think God was like Jesus it came about when King James publishers his interpretation, before that it was Yashua and yawh sorry about spelling..
R2fpl
What good is believing in ufos?.
I don't need to believe in ufos or FE devices because I have seen both in action first hand for myself. Like Atheism, its not a belief but a lack of belief. Most compulsive believers have trouble wrapping there mind around this concept. I don't believe anything until there is some kind of evidence to support it. So it's not about good or bad, that's absurd, it's about evidence and facts.
I think some want to dismiss ufos because it contradicts there religious beliefs. It also implies intelligence and technology vastly superior to our own invoking fear. It could also prove much of our ancient history is a lie.
More important it's evidence that advanced technologies relating to free energy are real. This is a forum about advanced energy technology is it not?. How can they power a craft that accelerates to velocities we cannot even imagine?. It sure as hell isn't anything as primitive as fossil fuels. So ya I have a very keen interest in ufos and free energy because they must be related by the technology they use.
Who cares if you believe in one of the thousands of imaginary gods?...
You can't eat or drink it, it won't heat or cool your house, it won't power your lights or appliances, it doesn't reduce pollution or prevent climate change killing millions of people each year. It's time to grow up and start dealing with reality...
Regards
AC
Quote from: onepower on July 27, 2022, 11:33:11 AM
I don't believe anything until there is some kind of evidence to support it. So it's not about good or bad, that's absurd, it's about evidence and facts.
Regards
AC
Absolutely correct response
Thank You.
Explanation:
Dr James Corum technology of - sending
energy from point A to point B anywhere on the planet Earthand
my own technology using exactly the same Dr Corum patented process phenomena -
Extraction of energy from Schumann Waveguide -both can be experimented with to be accepted or rejected upon resulting outcome.
Quote from: onepower on July 27, 2022, 11:33:11 AMSo it's not about good or bad, of //rf2pl// absurd, - it's about evidence and facts.
Physics doesn't recognize, the unrecognizable values of believers.
And you are not asking your spiritual leaders : why your microwave suddenly refused to cooperate.?
Wesley
Quote from: stivep on July 27, 2022, 11:53:02 AM
Absolutely correct response
Thank You.
Explanation:
Dr James Corum technology of - sending energy from point A to point B anywhere on the planet Earth
and
my own technology using exactly the same Dr Corum patented process phenomena - Extraction of energy from Schumann Waveguide
-both can be experimented with to be accepted or rejected upon resulting outcome.
Physics doesn't recognize, the unrecognizable values of believers.
And you are not asking your spiritual leaders : why your microwave suddenly refused to cooperate.?
Wesley
One question:
What happened to VIZIV?
They were full ahead with developing that technology. Many notable people in directors board. They even built large Tesla-style tower in Texas.
Then it has been shut down/bankrupt and the only owner is some kind of "priest".
What Corums are doing now?
Cheers,
Pix
PS. Guys please stop BS about off-topic esoteric matters on that thread.
Any way i have no time for Corum's as Tesla did it first.
some way back in the Dally thread was a device from Eric Dollard it was called something like a
Analogue Tesla coil consisting of 8 coils all mached in a alder rung fashion there was a border land video
demo on the device as far as I could see his device was working, My point is has any one built one
and got it runner ?
Quote from: pix on July 27, 2022, 12:34:23 PM
One question:
What happened to VIZIV?
They were full ahead with developing that technology. Many notable people in directors board. They even built large Tesla-style tower in Texas.
Then it has been shut down/bankrupt and the only owner is some kind of "priest".
What Corums are doing now?
Cheers,
Pix
Dr James Corum is similar to me.
The only difference between us is that I'm not affected by money, that is why some Russians attempted to terminate me forever.
In age over 70 Corum brothers didn't have to create Viziv, but they did
because of temptation of using someone else money to experiment.
and now they are ~78
But
Dr Corum was not collecting gain/ profit knowing that he will become "obligated."Yes he was paid all of his expenses,( travel, food, hotels, meetings and - end operative cash)
But
he wasn't paid salary .That made my own experimenting much, much cheaper with my own money.
So here are similarities between us.
The two fascinated by science guys Dr James Corum and me.
We may use comparison that Putin doesn't need salary as everything is paid around him,
but he can't step down. And Dr Corum can.
__________________________________________
The difference between him and me is like between:
- watching movie that was interrupted, without ever seeing the end of it
and
- me easily using his own achievement and being unlimited to watch and interact with the movie all away many times.
and even write another chapter.
_____________________________________________
The goal of Viziv investors was to make money, so energy extraction was the biggest nightmare for them.
But if money comes from stooping technology (or movie) in the middle than it is also not bad for investors.
In that matter I'm independent and can go to every aspect of manifested phenomena visited or not by Corum
Brothers. including
energy extraction from Schumann waveguideQuote from: pix on July 27, 2022, 12:34:23 PM
PS. esoteric matters on that thread.
You'll complain till you'll find something to focus at.
Variety and chaos is the base for creativity- equilibrium is not!!!
Wesley
Quote from: stivep on July 27, 2022, 03:04:33 PM
energy extraction from Schumann waveguide
Wesley
Yes. Tapping into energy caused by 2000 lightings that happens all the time around the globe. In fact it is Sun energy converted in the atmosphere.
Tuning into exact Shumann frequencies might be a challenge, Corums work at VIZIV was focused at kHZ range, not at Hz.
All boils down to Tesla way of collecting ambient energy- trap it in tuned, high Q resonator.
In fact, every EM radiation might be collected this way.
Same technique is used in Stepanov resonant transformers.
Cheers,
Pix
onepower, stivep:
200 years ago, no one knew the radioactivity that kills. Radio waves and many other matters from today's life were not known, but that does not mean that they were not there then, right? Today we know all this, but we still do not know if God exists or not. Maybe in a few years and maybe more we'll find out, maybe not.
People see all sorts of strange things, especially at night :)
I don't know if this is relevant or not but Einstein proved things start to dilate at near light
speed E=MC 2 (E is energy, M is Mass and C is the speed of light squared) that's about 9.931x10-7 Mhz. However different materials are apparently light slowed down, so there is something to exploit or think about perhaps.
Sil
Sometimes things we knew for years but shoved away for whatever reason become so obvious we cannot ignore them anymore. It really is either very simple or impossible, no inbetweens.
Just wanted to add, you should also ban or moderate this one since this is my other account. Let disinfo fester, suppress anyone saying the truth. Way to go.
Nix
Quote from: ne0 on August 25, 2022, 08:47:22 AM
Just wanted to add, you should also ban or moderate this one since this is my other account. Let disinfo fester, suppress anyone saying the truth. Way to go.
Nix
you are just being given a chance
- some Rashists aggressors :) in Ukraine got it too. :)
Wesley
Quote from: stivep on August 27, 2022, 06:09:13 PM
you are just being given a chance
- some Rashists aggressors :) in Ukraine got it too. :)
Wesley
HA, you are still under delusion that you are a mod here. :) If anyone is given a chance it's you, after so much disinfo and aggression you spilled
AND BEEN CALLED OUT FOR BY MANY, Rashists aggressors seem like little babies in comparison :)
Stivep
QuoteDr James Corum is similar to me.
The only difference between us is that I'm not affected by money, that is why some Russians attempted to terminate me forever.
In age over 70 Corum brothers didn't have to create Viziv, but they did
because of temptation of using someone else money to experiment.
The Corum's work is interesting but the Correa's is more practical...
http://rexresearch.com/correa/correa.htm
Paulo & Alexandra CORREA
PAGD (Pulsed Abnormal Glow Discharges)
In fact, T.H.Moray's 20kW device and many other devices were based on this same technology. Which begs the question, why bother transmitting power when we could just generate it where it's needed?.
historically motivated role of physical phenomena - methods of explanation and application.
Quote from: AlienGrey on July 27, 2022, 10:19:44 AM
//the book of Enoch //originally in the bible // Ezekiel and others
ascending in chariots of fire with thunderous noise emitted from them etc ext !
Or was it all american swamp gas ;D :D ;) :) ?
Religion Is Based on
Fear and Naive Faith-You Just Have to Believe It, - Or else!!
-lucky one never introduced to it can't be punished, doesn't fear its unknown rules and goes straight to haven.
Fear based on Guilt is the greatest blockage there to
self-love and joy.For unfamiliar with "concept of God ": the word : "spirit"- becomes just and only (equal = to) a
particular way of thinking, feeling, or behaving,
-like the spirit of these uniquely talented LGBT's So:
-all "American"
swamp gas ;D :D ;) :) ? (book of Enoch)
-pre-
Flood patriarch Noah: the too-much of rain story (Bible)
why did he need to take to the Ark these two mosquitos and all of these diseases too?
-a
solar eclipse (
old Pharaoh trick; used also in attack on the Amorites at Gibeon,) (book of Joshua)
- Sodom and Gomorrah strong
lightning caused blindness and fire. They didn't know welding yet than. (Wisdom 19:17
[28] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodom_and_Gomorrah#cite_note-29))Floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, volcanic eruptions, earthquakes, tsunamis and other geologic processes, were good tools for miracles to be made.
for the Uneducated Crowd .Today "miracles" are made with Photoshop, video tricks on YouTube and SciFi movies .
-Tough times for clergy to make quick buck - such a bad luck...
and wine Thanks God is so
miraculously cheep now .
Wesley
This guy says the key principle, something i knew from other occult sources to be true, space is full of electron-positron pairs, from macroscopic perspective they appear to cancel out. So if one splits them apart momentarily as they bounce back more energy sinks in from the ambient. Method is ofc a resonant transformer. He mentions using multiple frequencies like Keely.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egdbJAWb2gI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5WKz_gf1u8
Sir
Very Recently this guy (your YouTube link above)
Was introduced to an open source scientist here who is most respected!
And
It all went into money ....( big requests for money)
And it was a much simpler device ...
I will contact that scientist later this week to see if he is still discussing this ?
As of this writing follow up conversations with others associated with your YouTube claimant
"By myself" said
"Not verifiable..."
and odd "large money " requests up front .
For clarity persons approaching your claimant above are only looking to open source
To the world
Not business people!
Also one person who lives in claimants area of world
Left open offer to visit to verify claim
Which he apparently has done before with very same claimant
And was dead end !
I will call him again about this !
Respectfully
Chet K
Ps I did send you Pm
Pps
I see you are adding more links from same claimant
Timothy Thrapp
Yes hot water heater would be nice if true
As I wrote above
All dead ends for open source community at this time
And honestly
Interactions of persons I spoke with about this man
We're adamant about big issues of ability to produce more independent
Replication!
Or anything that could actually be tested !
Just more money it seems ?
I saw on Witts website about month ago they are selling plans for this device for
about 300 or 400 $ and about 2000 if they send you coils, or was it just cores and
you have to wind 'em yourself. I don't see it anymore.
https://www.enlightenedtechnology.org/witts-ministries-gifts/
Anyway, similar device Flux Switch Transformer Plans is still there for donation of $300.
https://www.enlightenedtechnology.org/tt-gallery/flux-switch-transformer-plans/
Just cause he wants money for his work does not make him a scammer.
Here, found the screenshot, see how important it is to take screenshots.
This is not a short story
Here there are probably dozens of topics on Witts at this forum
And also some MEG thing that some "hopegirl" persona
Got from them
??
Years back ( maybe 10?)
And they went to Morocco with funds and ??
But zilch as far as working units
Internet is filled with plans
Better to do some diligence prior to endorsing a claim!
I will be calling persons again who were very recently in contact with claimant
Next few days when I get my voice back!
Personally
I always liked that heater ( worlds most efficient)
Chet
BTW
Your screenshot won't open for me on my phone
It is problem for me here
EDIT
Ps
You should search forum for plans Witts plans
Might get them cheaper ( half kidding but ??
Try it
(For some reason I can never find things here through forum search function ?
Always takes forever and often no results ( to things I know are here ??)
?
No one said it was, Witts go way back and have many devices under them.
Quote from: ramset on August 29, 2022, 02:06:57 PM
This is not a short story
No one said it was.
Quote
Here there are probably dozens of topics on Witts at this forum
And also some MEG thing that some "hopegirl" persona
Got from them
??
Years back ( maybe 10?)
And they went to Morocco with funds and ??
But zilch as far as working units
I know. As for hopegirl that reminds me of that QEG Hopegirl chick.
Possibly not related. There is a reason why these devices never hit the market.
Quote
Internet is filled with plans
Tell me about it, i got more plans than could fit your phone's memory.
Quote
Better to do some diligence prior to endorsing a claim!
If we shared only what we successfuly replicated this forum would have no posts,
is that what you want.
Quote
I will be calling persons again who were very recently in contact with claimant
Next few days when I get my voice back!
Personally
I always liked that heater ( worlds most efficient)
Chet
BTW
Heater is great
Quote
Your screenshot won't open for me on my phone
It is problem for me here
Must be the size.
QuoteEDIT
Ps
You should search forum for plans Witts plans
Might get them cheaper ( half kidding but ??
Try it
?
I don't care about his plans, they say it themselves in the screenshot plans are not enough for replication.
It's enough to see the word resonance. All else are nuances.
Yes
It was QEG ..hopegirl and company got all from WITTS
Much money changed hands ( towards WITTS from hopey crew)
And then tons of money went from community into
Hopegirl unsuccessful efforts
And they left for Morocco with ??
Nothing worked except Morocco vacation/retirement plan ??
This is key point
Pointing to such bad (historically bad) group as
Though it's credible with no evidence?
Desperate member ..hungry ..needy ..etc takes grandmas last dollars to help the family
And sends it off to these guys ??
Gets back bupkis !!
We have to be more responsible!
That being said
I do like that water heater ....
Sigh
I know QEG story since i been following it since beginning and how they took
donations, were supposedly starting series production in Morocco i think in China
too and then nothing, it all dwindled down and they started selling orgone pyramids.
I did not know her father got the plans from Witts it was always claimed he
stumbled upon the effect himself. Anyway, nothing strange, always the same
when attempting to commercialize an OU device. Again it does not mean it did
not work, he may have been threatened, we don't know.
As for money, simply don't invest your money in such 'startups', do it yourself.
THAT's being responsible.
Let us know when you find it
I obviously will do the same
I like water experiments
Tommy Reed at this forum is going to do some interesting experiments
On phase change driven gain
Sam leach
lithium nitrate 20ppm /water at 500 psi in ICE
Also many other experiments
Here perhaps related to a Witts water heater ?
From member MasterBlaster
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4246.0 (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4246.0)
I see he also just posted an older MIT document on magneti....
I already found it as did others, many many real devices have been shown here
over the years. Replications are delicate and those who succeed most often say
nothing in public for very understandable reasons.
Sorry
Not my first summer
You'll have to do better than "many many"
And fear as a reason ?
Same same
Send me a link I'll post it
Don't bother sending unreplicatable YouTube's
Not enuff hours in the year for that nonsense!
Just one
Pick an easy one off your "many many" bench
EDIT for below
👍
Your commitment to the tremendous world wide need
is underwhelming!
And yes it is as a "taunt" from a higher place ! !
No more from me ...
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EDIT for second comment below
Here you are at an open source forum filled with builders attempting
Replications for decades
Upto the very moment I am typing this !
The world facing an unimaginable time and future ahead of this war !
PLEASE share from this open source platform....
I do not have what you claim to have "many many" of !
Share your life saving work ( your own "many many"Suppressed FE inventions!
TEACH the many very skilled OPEN SOURCE builders toiling as I type this !
PLEASE!!
I won't have to. No one is trying to convince you.
Your skepticism, your problem.
"unreplicable" ha.
May those with eyes to see see.
EDIT for above
You talk about yourself, your commitment to the tremendous world wide need
is indeed underwhelming!
You are just bitching and crying while some of us actually do the work.
Stop whining and roll up your sleeves.
Stop calling real devices "frauds".
THAT'S a "taunt from a higher place".
Over
That response sums it all up. I have something that you do not and I will laud it over you. Ha Ha Ha. Seen it forever. You want to help? Then be the change you seek! :Ghandi: Do like Linus did with linux. Make it free. The masses will flock to you wanting you to work for them. He was given contract for IBM that all he had to do was fill in the Salary amount and sign and date. Wonder what the response if he did 1 mill?
Anyhow, he said no and is still rich man. Give a energy device, duck and run for a while. It will get better tho. Has to be free at first and then you will reap the rewards of it.
thay
I don't know what it is with some members here. Whatever one says they misinterpret it and
skew it and try to turn it against you. I never said i had an OU device and especially did not
"laud it over" anyone.
All i said is there are many real OU devices on youtube (and elsewhere) and i do not like that
some members here call all these real devices fakes, real inventors frauds, under pretext of (supposedly)
just being skeptical. Of course there are many obvious fakes too, these usually get most views
while real ones are sandboxed. They are promoted to balance the real ones, to discredit it all.
Sir
It is your arrogant assumptions that persons who question you suddenly become
Bad guys or worse
Here you write of thousands of devices!!
And share not one proof of your own !( independent replication)
And you are actually insulting many here that toil on the bench for decades !
also you submit as proof previous you tubes here which are known to be dubious!
Best you maintain a polite stance as those who have actually been continuously experimenting
really are the open source FE communities best resource for vetting these "thousands of YouTube " claims.
And without 3rd party independent replication ?
It is hearsay!
That being said
I really like that WITTs water heater...
And I am by no means a skeptic,I feel the only path forward is replication!
Independent replication
Or independent lab results!
Please don't rinse and repeat your position above on thousands etc etc !
Please "do " share a result from your bench!
Just one !
Respectfully
Chet K
Quote from: ramset on August 31, 2022, 11:35:50 AM
Sir
It is your arrogant assumptions that persons who question you suddenly become
Bad guys or worse
Eh the projections, it's exactly your arrogant assumptions that most of the devices talked of here
are "known to be dubious", arrogant assuption from someone who never even tried.
I don't assume anyone is a bad guy or worse, i only call out flat out LYING like your pal stivep who
calls E V E R Y T H I N G here "fake"...
1) overunity itself
2) ether
3) magnet motors
4) gravity control
....
He OPENLY claims all these things are "bs" and you are with him, you two are exactly the same.
QuoteHere you write of thousands of devices!!
And share not one proof of your own !( independent replication)
I shared much of my benchwork, what did you do but whine. I am at least trying.
QuoteAnd you are actually insulting many here that toil on the bench for decades !
Projections again. It exactly you insulting many here and elsewhere by calling honest inventors "frauds" and their devices "fakes". How dare you.
Quotealso you submit as proof previous you tubes here which are known to be dubious!
Only thing "known to be dubious" is you. GREAT MAJORITY of videos i shared are real as time will show. That you call 'em "dubious" only exposes your ignorance.
QuoteBest you maintain a polite stance as those who have actually been continuously experimenting
really are the open source FE communities best resource for vetting these "thousands of YouTube " claims.
And without 3rd party independent replication ?
It is hearsay!
Projections again. You, a non-builder who calls real devices fake, you who put shame on great
people/inventors of this field, tell me who have been building for 8 years to "take stance".
Oh the irony. I been building since 2014, 8 years of exprimenting with overunity, inertial propulsion
etc. I documented my efforts trying to replicate Don Smith etc... and am now at certain level of
experience and understanding in all these field i am most grateful for... what have you done, where
is your build-diary, pics....You have no right to say a word.
Firstly just cause someone "tried" and failed says nothing about the original device and the inventor.
I did not get DS to work (yet) like 99,9999% people, does that lead to conclusion DS was a fraud,
ofc not, it only means me and others did not do it right and it's a most delicate thing.
As Nelson Rocha wrote here
"
Like I already told many times ; Most of people are not interested in hard work ,
but instead want "baby food" in their own mouth ... Myself lose 2 years only study
some aspects of that circuit , and see people already give up just because some
Illustrious persons, Pout ..... In general i think this is a lost case. When happens
such behavior's, i could only say that is a waste of TIME to everyone!"
Rocha's demo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H3JMMKu-DM&
People usually want quick solutions and that only means 100% failure and frustration, on the other
hand some keep tinkering with it for decades but don't get themselves on proper energy level, of
course they also fail. Such are also not fit to vet any OU device on YT or anywhere, all they
really know is how to fail perpetually. Many of these people are humble and don't go calling devices
and principles fake just cause they fail, respect to them, they understand that it's delicate and
nuances make big difference. But some are not and become toxic bigmouths on forums, spreading
misinfo and skepticism, discouraging people from even trying.
QuoteThat being said
I really like that WITTs water heater...
You like that heater but you "know" all others are "duboius" probably that heater too. My my.
Quote
And I am by no means a skeptic,I feel the only path forward is replication!
Independent replication
Or independent lab results!
You are a skeptic and a non-builder.
Quote
Please don't rinse and repeat your position above on thousands etc etc !
Please "do " share a result from your bench!
Just one !
Respectfully
Chet K
Oh the hypocrisy, show me one thing you built ever.
Sideways .... off point arguments ....or lighting fires elsewhere?
To pull the view from "your " claim of thousands??
Just one Reproducible FE device (of the thousands) will do ?
Do you even look at where you post ?
It's not a knitting club , just one true reproducible
Anomalous gain mechanism!
Would have tons of builds here !
Just one !!
PLEASE!!
Sorry I don't have your free time to waste
Just be certain you stay within terms of service
I see you already make assumptions and troll for arguments
Not a good sign for a guy who has thousands of FE devices
TEACH
—-///——/////—-////
EDIT for below
You are in a house filled with builders
One very serious builder posted to you above !
And you danced ...finger pointed and waved your way off the opportunity
To actually help ...
There is nothing more important at this point in time
TEACH!!
Teach the hundreds- thousands of potential builders here !
///—-///—-/////——///
Final edit comment for below "YouTube proof"
"Movie Proof "??
Is like the person with a checkbook trying to convince bank that they
Must have money in bank
Because they still have checks in the book !!
LOOK Everyone it has a MOT !!
Proof ?
Your "other"dimension must be much nicer than my reality
A few microwave transformers
A hacksaw ... some wires and ....
Wallah
FE unit # 2002 !!
Easy peasy !
You keep going like this you'll need a bigger boat..
My formal training is in test lab ( many here who are builders also Test
Very very strict protocols for proof !
This is Why you can get on trains planes and automobiles and have little concern !
Industries where proof is a set of engineered plans that can traverse the internet
Arrive at a factory on the other side of the world
And a commercial aircraft leaves and flies back to sender !
That is proof
A replication actually!!
In this case of FE
Power in power out etc proof!
And of course looping or self running once a unit is to a certain level
Should be self evident!
IMO it would be much better you show parts of your build that explain your
Reasoning ( beyond the use of words)
8 years ?
There are thousands of years combined scientist EE's physicists etc etc in these open source forums
You post movies as proof and start flamewars ( even have prewritten and numbered this editions "word battles" above with numbers ?
For a guy with FE in sooo many sizes and flavors?
You chose word battles as a priority!
Your point in the multiverse sounds fabulously frivolous!
Yeesh
TEACH
FE Results and how to
Not FE thesaurus flame wars 101
At this time I chose to leave your reality
And return to mine where proof requires more than words and movies
Where people actually suffer for lack of these techs
As well our entire planet and ecosystem!
You live in a very separate or detached reality!
BTW
I love to build ...
Oh the hypocrisy, who is making "off point arguments ....or lighting fires"...
calling REAL devices "fakes".....
I look very well where i post, question is do you ever.
Your eternal skepticism and beggin for "just one real one" is worn out and
reminds of a bad script.
You clearly have much more free time than me, while i have been researching
and building you were writing those 7-8 thousand skeptical posts.
If someone is trolling for arguments it's you. You may remind yourself of TOS, saying device is fake when it's not is not allowed.
Stop begging, enough of bla bla, start building for a change.
EDIT for EDIT:
QuoteYou are in a house filled with builders
Of which i am one and have been for 8 years.
QuoteOne very serious builder posted to you above !
I seen how "serious" he is, posting uncalled for personal attacks,
and quick skip through his previous posts reveals he was exposed before.
I wonder if your "serious builder" would even know to
measure resonant frequency of a coil.
QuoteAnd you danced ...finger pointed and waved your way off the opportunity
To actually help ...
All you do is dance and finger point, never did you actually contribute or help.
Just with this thread i helped more than you and your pal combined
in all your posts, not to mention all the other threads.
Just in this thread i brought to attention and removed any doubt, contrary
to the claim of your pal stivep, that there can be power amplifcation in parallel
RLC as video i linked multiple times shows very clearly
105W in 2.34kW reactive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVgp-gOBqsg
200W in 3.5kw reactive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sfOKPIi6CM
Now google "parallel rlc" site:overunity.com
And it becomes clear except in 2 of my threads this term has been mentioned
only 3 times and none of those 3 talked of current or power amplification.
This is the key principle and i brought it to wide attention. Who helped more.
All you do is whine and dramatize, i go to the core of things are share for all.
QuoteThere is nothing more important at this point in time
More bla bla, empty words with no substance.
Quote
TEACH!!
Teach the hundreds- thousands of potential builders here !
I been doing exactly that for years, you have not been paying attention.
Researching, building, sharing......
If you only done 1/10 as much as me you would be
100 times more helpful to the community and the world.
Final edit for "Final edit".................
Quote"Movie Proof "??
Is like the person with a checkbook trying to convince bank that they
Must have money in bank
Because they still have checks in the book !!
LOOK Everyone it has a MOT !!
More stupid sarcasm, you just prove my point
Quote
Proof ?
Your "other"dimension must be much nicer than my reality
A few microwave transformers
A hacksaw ... some wires and ....
Wallah
FE unit # 2002 !!
Easy peasy !
And more stupid sarcasm...lame
QuoteYou keep going like this you'll need a bigger boat..
How ironic coming from someone so ignorant and detached from reality.
Quote
My formal training is in test lab ( many here who are builders also Test
Very very strict protocols for proof !
Your formal training is distracting people from simple truths.
Quote
This is Why you can get on trains planes and automobiles and have little concern !
Industries where proof is a set of engineered plans that can traverse the internet
Arrive at a factory on the other side of the world
And a commercial aircraft leaves and flies back to sender !
That is proof
A replication actually!!
In this case of FE
Bla bla bla, more empty words, distractions
Quote
Power in power out etc proof!
And of course looping or self running once a unit is to a certain level
Should be self evident!
How many have demonstrated looped devices,
......but ofc they are all "frauds" for you :facepalm:
Quote
IMO it would be much better you show parts of your build that explain your
Reasoning ( beyond the use of words)
I suppose Kapandaze and all those replicating him
did not convince you enough, or did they............
Quote
8 years ?
There are thousands of years combined scientist EE's physicists etc etc in these open source forums
"Scientist" "EE" :D When they are so great where are the solutions...
Since you got none by your own admission, you don't get to boast.
Thousands of years, yet no one even mentioned power amplification in parallel RLC,
the key to it all, before i did, interesting isn't it......
QuoteYou post movies as proof and start flamewars ( even have prewritten and numbered this editions "word battles" above with numbers ?
More useless personal attacks from you, intentional flaming and
distracting from the science/tech with garbage.
Notice how he always sleazily calls it "movies" to create the mental image
of something worthless, unreal......in vain are you efforts....
Is this a "movie" OR REALITY.....
105W in 2.34kW reactivehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVgp-gOBqsg
NO MATTER HOW MUCH DERAILING SPAM YOU POST
WILL NOT CHANGE THE FACT OF PARALLEL RLC POWER
AMPLIFICATION AND BASIS OF OU EXTRACTION
QuoteFor a guy with FE in sooo many sizes and flavors?
You chose word battles as a priority!
You describe yourself again, all you do is rant and personal attacks
while i share the key principles for enlightement of all.
QuoteYour point in the multiverse sounds fabulously frivolous!
And you desribe yourself yet again. Seems you're getting poetic too.
Quote
Yeesh
TEACH
FE Results and how to
Not FE thesaurus flame wars 101
Yeesh to you, hypocrite. Admit the OU reality
and stop "FE thesaurus flame wars 101"
Quote
At this time I chose to leave your reality
And return to mine where proof requires more than words and movies
Where people actually suffer for lack of these techs
As well our entire planet and ecosystem!
"My reality" :D YOU are living in a separate reality,
denying the obvious, how long, it's becoming ridiculous...
I don't even need resonant transformers to expose your lies
I can expose you with a simple Milkovic 2-stage pendulum,
proven to be 11-12x OU.
How much energy would he need to lift that
74 pound (33kg) weight
few inches and drop it
dozens and dozens of times, it is doing
work every time it drops.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC6Qlj1Mbo8
Are you denying this is OU, if you are you are CLEARLY lying....
So here we have PROOF of OU you been (supposedly) "looking for".
Why i got a hunch you're again gonna dodge and sleazily try to avoid
admitting the SIMPLE TRUTH i been saying all along, be it mechanical
or solid state.....
Quote
You live in a very separate or detached reality!
Very very ironic considering you are the one living in
"a very separate or detached reality"...denying simple,
obvious OU devices, as well as more complex ones.
Quote
BTW
I love to build ...
Only thing you build is useless rants...
Let's make it concrete, i wanna hear your official denial
that video above is showing 11-12X energy amplification.
Quote from: ne0 on August 31, 2022, 01:33:43 PM
200W in 3.5kw reactive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sfOKPIi6CM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sfOKPIi6CM)
You
nix85 didn't even want to read the comment below the video.
QuoteAzamat Farrakhov 5 years ago
// (параллельный резонанс) с парой дросселей от ЛДС. Замерял их начальную и конечную температуры, продолжительность нагрева, учёл массу железа, меди и тепловые потери (для подсчёта потерь достаточно замерить время остывания, остальные данные те же). Ток в контуре в 2,5 раза больше входного. Полученная после расчётов мощность нагрева с точностью 5% сошлась с потреблением по бытовому индукционному счётчику (20 Вт). Дроссели конечно мелковаты, всего ватт на 30, запаса по мощности нет, как говорил Андреев.
Translation: "parallel resonance) with a pair of chokes from LDS.
I measured their initial and final temperatures, the duration of heating, took
into account the mass of iron, copper and heat loss (to calculate losses,
it is enough to measure the cooling time, the rest of the data are the same).
The current in the circuit is 2.5 times greater than the input.
The heating power obtained after the calculations with an accuracy of 5%
coincided with the consumption of a household induction meter !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(20 W).
The chokes are of course shallow, only 30 watts,
there is no power reserve, as Andreev said." = there is no extra power there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is quite simple trick:
The household power meter should operate properly up to 400Hz but many Chinese power meters are not.
The "phenomenon" - (error in reading) is achieved in resonance outside of range of the meter.
The title of the video didn't claim any over- unity or energy from nothing.
QuoteЭкономный Резонансный Нагреватель
Economical Resonant Heaterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sfOKPIi6CM
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sfOKPIi6CM)
____________________________________________________________Quote
Ігор Козубаль 6 years ago
Вячеслав спасибо!! А при подключении нагрузки резонанс в контуре будет держаться???
Translation: Igor Kozubal 6 years ago Vyacheslav thank you!! And when the load is connected, the resonance in the circuit will hold???
Answer:
QuoteВячеслав
6 years ago
Но здесь нет съёмного контура, если в резонансный контур вмешиваться, то будет уходить резонанс...
Translation: Vyacheslav 6 years ago But there is no
load circuit, if you interfere with the resonant circuit, the resonance will go away...
QuoteЭто же схема похожа на старую Андреева, только без обратной связи и съёмного...
На мой взгляд здесь экономия есть против индукционного нагрева или тэнового, а коэффициент теплоотдачи меньше.
Translation:
This schematic is similar to the old of Andreeva, only without feedback and removable ...
In my opinion, there is savings against induction heating or heat transfer, and the heat transfer coefficient is less.
QuoteВячеслав 6 years agoещё как возможно ))
если вместо дросселя трансформатор поставить с съёмной обмоткой и обратной связью то это как раз схема Андреева... Я просто показал устойчивость резонанса при изменении в сети напряжения, как это происходит в схемах Андреева
Translation:
Vyacheslav 6 years ago is still as possible )) if instead of a balast a transformer is placed - with a removable winding and feedback then this is just andreev's scheme...
I just showed the stability of the resonance when the voltage in the network changes, as it happens in Andreev's schemes.
_______________________________________________________
for these interested with schematic of Andreev:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pEpbVs8-No (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pEpbVs8-No)
if he doesn't stop
bullying (https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=df843dc695387f62JmltdHM9MTY2MTk4OTc5NSZpZ3VpZD0xM2IxMjViNC1mODUyLTQzNTgtYTEzNS0wM2ZlZDhjNGIzYWImaW5zaWQ9NTY3MA&ptn=3&hsh=3&fclid=9cbe712f-2987-11ed-91d5-fcdbc4a9acd1&u=a1L3NlYXJjaD9xPWJ1bGx5aW5nJkZPUk09QVdSRQ&ntb=1). I will vote for his total ban.
Wesley
Quote from: stivep on August 31, 2022, 06:16:08 PM
You nix85 didn't even want to read the comment below the video.
Another false claim from you. I did read the description, that is where the
input output data comes from....
Did i ever claim that video shows overunity?
E-VER, ANY-WHERE? No, i did not. So what is all this bs you just posted.
Video is clearly linked as an example of POWER AMPLIFICATION in parallel RLC...
Something which you called impossible at the very beginning of this thread,
need i quote.... yet here we see two examples of 20 times more power oscillating
in the parallel RLC tank than is being input into it.
As for load affecting the resonance.......i spoke about that, as bolt said 11 years ago
and as Dan Combine wrote 16 years ago in RE-OU-v6_1.pdf (in attachment)......
everything affects resonance, that is where "
tuning for load" phrase comes
from, but load CAN be connected and powered by almost purely reactive power as
many reported over the years.....as same guy from first video i linked demostrated,
also posted here number of times already....
QuoteGuy i shared before who pumps 2.34kW in his big trans with 105W input.
Here he is looping it with UPS battery, battery starts at 13.69V.
Then he powers 280W of lights + charges the batter to 14.3V.
Reactive power is 1163W here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYWgcRB73bw
Quoteif he doesn't stop bullying (https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=df843dc695387f62JmltdHM9MTY2MTk4OTc5NSZpZ3VpZD0xM2IxMjViNC1mODUyLTQzNTgtYTEzNS0wM2ZlZDhjNGIzYWImaW5zaWQ9NTY3MA&ptn=3&hsh=3&fclid=9cbe712f-2987-11ed-91d5-fcdbc4a9acd1&u=a1L3NlYXJjaD9xPWJ1bGx5aW5nJkZPUk09QVdSRQ&ntb=1). I will vote for his total ban.
Wesley
Clearly troll is hurt badly by the truth and all he has left is personal attacks,
projections, calling me a "troll" when he is in fact a troll bullying and disinforming.
He knows well truth has been exposed here, the essence of it, he has only two
ways to destroy the truth, to defame me personally and/or the materials i post...
He of course cannot do this in the eyes of those who see, but he hopes he can
do it for the majority, if he only constructs his attacks sleazily enough to work
on their skepticism or should i say lack of sight, combined with massive amount
of bs content, he has high hopes that this wave of enlightenment will pass over
the heads of the most. But even if he (they) is successful in blinding the most, more and
more will see through the fog and when enough candles turn on, dark will seize.
The unfortunate is that posted by you nix85 video doesn't show any extra energy from RLC circuit.
Author of the video doesn't claim any extra energy.
Economical Resonant Heater
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sfOKPIi6CM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sfOKPIi6CM)
and:
LC circuit doesn't amplify as it is made from passive elements:
QUOTE:
You can apply whatever frequencies you want but, the further you are away from the natural resonant frequency,
the lower will be the resulting amplitude. – Andy aka (https://electronics.stackexchange.com/users/20218/andy-aka) May 3, 2020 at 9:47
3 Also an LC tank is made of passive components so amplification is not something that can happen.
You cannot get more signal power out than you put in. – Bimpelrekkie (https://electronics.stackexchange.com/users/77865/bimpelrekkie) May 3, 2020 at 9:59
Nature of your confusion is quote:
Yes, but not very effectively. This is a huge problem in RF receiver design because high level input signals near
(but outside) the tuned circuit bandwidth break through (attenuated, but still louder than the signals you want)
interfering with the wanted signal. – user_1818839 (https://electronics.stackexchange.com/users/16324/user-1818839) May 3, 2020 at 14:12
here is a link:
https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/497328/can-a-lc-tank-circuit-amplify-frequencies-beyond-the-bandwidth-region (https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/497328/can-a-lc-tank-circuit-amplify-frequencies-beyond-the-bandwidth-region)
Wesley
Again you copy paste the same nonsense and lies.
1) Power clearly is ampilfied since we can clearly measure current and voltage
in the circuit and calculate power P=IV which is 20 times (or more) the input
2) Some of the power clearly can be taken to power the real load as guy shows
280W of lights being powered WHILE CHARGING THE BATTERY that keeps the RLC
tank going
3) With fine tuning much bigger outputs are possible
Nix
I Strongly suggest you stop twisting your words and just
Host the claim!
The man in the video ( whom you also apparently taunt in comments at his video channel ( if it's the same one from above)
Seems you really have no evidence at all in these vids ( actual method to validate ?
Since "you" understand this easy 20 fold gain mechanism
Put it into a schematic
And just give a 2fold result for replicators!
Should be a much easier task!
Show us the easy 2 fold
Any fold of more out than in !
Or is it really just the flamewars you want ?
It is really looking this way!
2 fold please even .2 will do
And no batteries
Capacitors please , they are a much easier to model and measure in the circuit
And easy for replicators to follow along dependably !
Please?
TEACH
We don't need flamewars lessons !
Ps
I am sure it is late where you are atm
Please model the experiment
Not 20 times input
Just. 2 times will do!
And if that's to hard
Try .2
No more flamewars Over YouTube's with no evidential protocols ( circuits and expected results!
You Nix can believe all the theatre you wish
But slanderous actions which hold theatrical musings....? as evidence ...a basis for slander ??
HUH ?
Get your own forum and put your own assets on the line !
Or do the much simpler thing and post schematic, specs etc
For a cop greater than 2
Again the exact same bs....As if i did not predict EXACTLY
that he's just gonna dodge and sleazly avoid answering
and just repeat the same nonsense.....
Enough bs....stop twisting, dodging, demanding my replication
and pretending to beg for "2 fold", stop starting flamewars
(seems that's all YOU want).... stop the slandering.......
we all seen enough of your act
1) Answer CLEARLY
Are you denying that he very clearly shows 20x power amplification?
2) Answer CLEARLY
Are you denying other video very clearly shows 11-12X energy amplifcation?
Nix
Movies can show anything the presenter wants
Whether he actually understands what he is looking
At is a completely different story!
So you say he understands ( and then you actually yell at him in comments?
I think this conversation from my side is over
It would seem you absolutely do not have the ability to TEACH
Just fights
We don't need help in fighting department
It's not something We waste time with here
Flame wars are forbidden!
aa a man who picks multiple fights ( your list above) which have absolutely nothing to do with a successful replication!
When he could simply show he is right ?( about more power out than in )
Well ?
And you are not in a fight club here !
And our planet really does pay a huge price for burning our very thin atmosphere and poisoning our very precious water !
People really will freeze to death this year ( more than usual) or die do to cold side effects
And here you play a fight game ?
Your "fight flame" will go out here.... it's not what we do !
Read the sign on the door below!
That's our mission statement
You in or you out ?
Gonna fight ( somewhere else of course)
Or TEACH!
You say you have thousands of flavors of OU
Just one will do !
After over one year or more of this ?
You must have one test set up to show "more out than in "
On your bench !( amongst your mentioned thousands of FE device's)
And if it's just movie proof with no schematic or ?
Take that fight somewhere else !
Что вы на моего Веслика нападаете ? :(
There, he again repeats exactly the same bs with slighty
rearranged words.... again he calls it "movies".....impyling
"deception" and accuses me of "picking fights" while that
is exactly what he is doing, picking fights to derail from
the SIMPLE TRUTH.
Now he lies that i said they "understand"....i did not.
I don't care if they understand altho they clearly do
to a certain extent....all i care about is demonstration
of the principles.
Your post is quick few word dismissal of videos and then
ton of personal attacks....
WE ALL SEE ENOUGH OF YOUR ACT, CUT IT.
Not to mention what a hypocrite you are to call real,
key videos "deceptions", to attack me personally
and post that silly welcome page screenshot
implying how you supposedly "look for a solution".
Nothing stinks more than a hypocrite.
I am asking you a simple OBJECTIVE question, so focus
on that, not personal attacks and bs.
Since you claim these videos are deception, say in which way
what is deceptive about them, be objective, let's hear it.
105W in 2.34kW reactive, clear 20 times power amplification.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVgp-gOBqsg
Lifting 74 pounds (33kg) dozens of times with slight finger push
Clear 11-12 times energy multiplication.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC6Qlj1Mbo8
Nix
You don't need to jump around to all your flavors of over unity.
Pick one
Within skill set of forum ...which you know works ( works on your bench)
Start a new build topic !
The builders community will definitely get the message!
Just one you have had in your own hands !
And even .2 will do
BTW
I am going to try to contact someone you have mentioned this last year
and see if ?
Persons who build and share are life's blood of forum!
Please do!
Respectfully
Chet K
Ps noise to signal
Noise =random video evidence with no ability to replicate!
Signal = bench replication
BTW open source community skill set has few limits
Your tactique is
1) call it a deception or strongly imply so
2) insist on my replication or nothing
3) repeat repeat repeat
People are not stupid they see what you do.
I am showing concrete KEY principles while
you are jumping around, derailing with lies and bs.
You continue to pretend to beg for a solution, asking for a build
yet when shown clearly real obvious gain mechanims you call it
"deception" have you no shame.
Let's focus on the second vid, we can see the old guy lift this
74lb 33kg weight dozens of times with his pinky.
If that is not OBVIOUS ENERGY GAIN what is.
Are you calling video a montage, a CGI or what....
If not, how do you explain that he lifts that big weight so many times and he could
clearly do it for 20-30min cause input energy is so tiny while output is AT LEAST
11-12 times more.
Nix
There is a huge reason that you do not get enuff attention ( a following)
Of builders !
First the fights ... true builders here would prefer their fingernails pulled before engaging in such atmosphere!
2nd
Persons who build and share results get respect of open source community ,
Persons who see overunity at every YouTube?
And tell others to "build it " you'll see ?
It really is amazingly naive!
A rabbit hole which will consume years of life chasing ??( nothing OU at all)
I have not yet looked at any of videos you posted as it is your bench endorsement
The community seeks !
We have had years of lives wasted on such unproven assumptions
Do you have replication of any flavor?
Personal experience
"I did this it works"
Or is this where we end ?
I have no time for such bouncing around
Pick one
Anything
And I will be sure to get the needed input ( will bring hundreds of years combined experience to your bench !
Stop playing games !
It's not a game
And for clarity
It will be 100% transparent process !
Scientific rigor will apply !
Respectfully
Chet K
PS
Who has the captains paddle?
Kolbacict
Quote
Что вы на моего Веслика нападаете
End quote
Quote from: ne0 on September 01, 2022, 08:29:44 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC6Qlj1Mbo8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC6Qlj1Mbo8)
few things:
1. pendulum as lever action
2. resonance (will be covered later if needed)
3. energy concentration (will be covered later if needed)
re 1.
Quote from comment under video :
Quoteibpointless2
10 years ago
You have to push the counter weight over ten feet to move the heavy weight two inches, this is clearly use a lever action.
You can lift a car with a big enough lever but it does not mean its free energy.
Quote:
howsybee
14 years ago
Let's analyse this video a little closer.
If the 46-pound pendulum was released from a 90° angle the centrifugal force could lift a maximum weight 3 times the pendulum's weight
= 138 pounds. With the bar ratio of 1.41:1 the pedulum could still lift a weight of 98 pounds.
Now, with a max. angle of approx. 77° as shown in the video, the pendulum could lift 76 pounds at the bottom which is roughly the left weight.
https://youtu.be/X9zLgWfYcXI?t=167 (https://youtu.be/X9zLgWfYcXI?t=167)Wesley
Of course just the same sleazy filth, personal attacks, dodging, distracting, injecting skepticism...
He accuses me of "fights" yet all he does is fight,
while he avoids the concrete subject like a hot iron!!!Now he uses the idea of "community" against me, just same dirty tricks over and over again...
Look how SLEAZY this is....
Quote
Persons who see overunity at every YouTube?
And tell others to "build it " you'll see ?
It really is amazingly naive!
A rabbit hole which will consume years of life chasing ??( nothing OU at all)
So i am "naive" just cause i can see, as do thousands if not millions who know this principle is OU,
around the world......and he tries to make it look as if i am trying to make people waste their lives
on something which is "
nothing OU at all" (his words).
But it
IS OU no matter how that hurts you and i am not suggesting anyone to build this
relatively primitive OU device, i am just sharing for those who are still not aware of it
to SEE AND UNDERSTAND IT, to know that YOU ARE A LIAR, that OU has been proven
long ago, it is already used world-wide.
Question is WHY are you still denying this unquestionable OU principle, what is your agenda,
or rather, how much are 'they' paying you for this (no matter who 'they' is).
I am building other stuff, i don't have to build this one to know it is OU, so many already have
and confirmed it, they all agree you can keep the pendulum oscillating with your pinky,
while energy due to big falling weight is many many times the input beyond any doubt.
And STILL he refuses to admit, he calls it "deception". WHY, what is this.
It is not a game but it is a DIRTY DIRTY game YOU play.
Stop playing games, admit the obvious or explain CONCRETELY why you claim
this principle which has been proven to be at least 11-12x OU, which so many
of us world-wide know to be true, is "deception" according to you.
Look how stivep sleazily tries to confuse and distract people from the fact
that energy in is MANY times smaller than out.
Energy gain is due to combination of centrifugal force and gravity through lever action,
that is quite obvious. But input is definitely many times smaller than output.
There is
Force = Mass * acceleration
Work = force * distance moved unit: newton meter or joule or Work = Mass * Gravity * Height
Work = Change in Energy
Power = work / time = force * displacement / time = force * velocity
Power (hp,watt) = work(ENERGY)/time aka time rate of energy transfer
Energy = Power x Time
So work done is proportional to mass x g x height it drops from.
If you lift 74lb aka 33kg vertically say 5 or 10 cm and drop it energy you input lifting it
will be equal to energy released as it impacts the surface.
Now, how much energy do you have to invest to lift 74lb aka 33kg just once,
we all know that is significant weight, doing it just 5 times would start to tire anyone.
How bout doing it for half an hour non stop, every 2 seconds.
And here we have a device doing exactly that, yet input is literally just maintaining
the swinging pendulum with slight pinky pushes.
DO YOU SEE WHAT HE'S DOING; HE'S TRYING TO CONVINCE YOU ENERGY IN = ENERGY OUT.
He is literally calling you morons.
Nix
Nothing of your own experience?
Not looking at YouTube's of others which you hold as proof !
Over the years I have engaged hundreds of "open source "
Builders !
Still do ...
Not one would ever waste time here on your video evidence!
And all true builders always pay attention!
Got anything with plasma ?
Personally?
Rumors flipping around about some plasma work which maybhold evidence of provable gain ?
Would be surprised what people call plasma ...
Or
Keep playing Flame game
BTW I think your hairs on fire ( in the back a bit ....
Maybe less jumping and waving and pointing?
Do you have a mirror?
Sigh
Plasma ?
I'll make a few calls on that too ..
You happened to catch me slowly recovering from a pretty nasty illness last 10 days
More time than usual...but now I'm getting my voice back!
Honestly IMO you really do mean well ...
Just happens that your in a very deep talent pool here ...
EDIT
I see you added your new top of forum vitriol!!
So nothing of your own to show ?
BTW
That's all that matters!
Jump and stamp a bit more .... Good exercise at least!
There he admits it openly, he does not even want to look at it, i rest my case, drop the mic.
This reminds me of the LAETRIL when medical mafia told the doctor who was saving hundreds
of people "We don't care if it works" and same mafia to woman who was also saving hundreds
of people with indian herb potion "We can't let you do this to us".........
I love it when they expose themselves like this.
All i am doing is saying the TRUTH which obviously hurts you a lot...
You can keep "playing Flame game" and "jumping and waving and pointing"
as much as you like....................
but it ain't gonna change the fact that you are working against the Truth.
Just checked the mirror, nope, my hair is just fine, but you are completely consumed by the flames.
PLIEsma
Go go, edit some more, do some more jumpin' and stampin'
gotta keep your deception muscle in shape
as if you have not spilled enough of your venom, geee.
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Re: Microwave TL coax impedance (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/rf-microwave/microwave-tl-coax-impedance/msg2476335/#msg2476335)
« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2019, 11:45:51 pm »
Quote from: vk6zgo on June 10, 2019, 11:41:55 pm (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/rf-microwave/microwave-tl-coax-impedance/msg2476329/#msg2476329)
Do whatever you like, I give up!
Again, you try to make me look as if i am arguing with you while everyone sees i am respectful and just trying to learn.
All of the rest of quoted conversation is one big argument of a person with nick Nix85 with others.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/rf-microwave/microwave-tl-coax-impedance/msg2479140/#msg2479140 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/rf-microwave/microwave-tl-coax-impedance/msg2479140/#msg2479140)
From Administrator to a person with nick Nix85
That's not how forum's work. You don't get to tell people to stop providing their answers or opinions.
You won't make friends here with that sort of approach.
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« Reply #52 on: March 14, 2020, 02:52:20 am »
Can we please not feed the troll? (
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Wesley
The question has been tormenting for a long time, is this the whole Westernway of thinking ,
how is it presented on the Overunity website ? If so, then I'm not happy.
Kolbacict
You refer to mission statement?
Reason for being here ?( I hope)
Notice how troll sivep again resorts to personal defamation
attempts when he's exposed for LYING and has no arguments.
Here is that full thread from the beginning for anyone wanting to read
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/rf-microwave/microwave-tl-coax-impedance/
Remember just one post ago he was trying to deceive you all into
believing energy in = energy out in Milkovic double oscillator
altho energy out is obviously AT LEAST 11-12 times bigger.
Remember he also claims magnet motors are "impossible" "bs",
same for overunity, ether, antigravity.....e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g
we speak about here and strive to. What to say but my my.
EDIT for below...
As everyone here knows eevblog.com is 100% convetional, mainstream
forum OWNED BY GUY WHO CALLS FE "BS" and even made a 45min video
about it. >>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoqF3gjLIyI
And more of out of context pathetic defamation attempts, quoting guys who
would put their right hand in fire that free energy is "bs".
stivep has really hit the rock bottom, no arguments, only lies and ad-hominems.
Here is another example of EEVblog acting to a person using nick name Nix85
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/renewable-energy/zvs-mazzilli-driver-rectified/msg2490819/#msg2490819 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/renewable-energy/zvs-mazzilli-driver-rectified/msg2490819/#msg2490819)
QuoteQuote:
If you are going to pedal over unity BS I suggest you just leave.
If you have a serious question do feel free to ask.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/renewable-energy/zvs-mazzilli-driver-rectified/msg2490837/#msg2490837 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/renewable-energy/zvs-mazzilli-driver-rectified/msg2490837/#msg2490837)
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QuoteDid that just blow up? No? might work after all !!
Re: ZVS Mazzilli Driver rectified (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/renewable-energy/zvs-mazzilli-driver-rectified/msg2490837/#msg2490837) «
Reply #30 on: June 17, 2019, 11:56:00 am »
QuoteShow me the God that can ban you for 2 days to see if you can come to your senses and ban you permanently if you do not!
Sincerely God's deputy!
Wesley
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Quote from: stivep on September 01, 2022, 03:26:27 PM
No it is you who has a problem .
the response to video "Free energy overunity Rubbish"-
was formulated here by me.
look at it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6uPHxQVEgQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6uPHxQVEgQ)
Part 1 EEV blog criticism creates protest of FE community
Wesley
No it's YOU who has a problem, you are even now contradicting yourself,
in this video you protest and make fun of him, at the same time you use
him/his forum to supposedly defame me. HA.
Your defamation attempts are pathetic.
Your list of lies grows and grows.
This is just another of your attempts to distract from the subject, in this case
Milkovic 2 stage pendulum......which you claim is not OU........
Why are you lying
Evblog guy is definitely one of the fellows (Dave?)
Would get a demonstration in OZ
I know Jimboot would love to do that ...
Served up ......
Nix
you fight too much with paper sword and words
Empirical evidence which can be independently reproduced or replicated !
I bow out
Gotta get test bed to 3000 psi ( news for T Reed)
For acetylene experiments!
And water in ICE
..
for these interested with part #2 here is a link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He5xQOJHlrU&t=372s
Wesley
Obviously you love how Dave calls overunity "bullshit", "fake",
"frauds" just like you, he is at least sincere about it, while you
pretend to "look" for it while in reality work against it.
I got nothing against Dave in person, in fact i like him, but he
does not know what he makes fun of.
As for "fight with paper sword and words", look in the mirror.
You called Milkovic 2 stage oscillator "nothing OU" deception....
Yet it is undeniably and obviously OU and it has been
independently reproduced and replicated around the world
You claim you are "looking" for a simple gain mechanism....
Here it is, end to your seeking.....but you don't even wanna
open the video and you call it "nothing OU" (your words)
without even looking. You have no shame
Quote from: ne0 on September 01, 2022, 03:10:30 PM
As everyone here knows eevblog.com is 100% convetional, mainstream
forum OWNED BY GUY WHO CALLS FE "BS" and even made a 45min video
about it. >>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoqF3gjLIyI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoqF3gjLIyI)
No it is you who has a problem Nix85 using also nick name ne0
The response to video "Free energy overunity Rubbish"- by EEV
was formulated here by me.
look at it:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6uPHxQVEgQPart 1 EEV blog criticism creates protest of FE community
The video was recorded with one stereo channel so if you have problem with sound in that video
make sure you can switch to second channel.for these interested with part #2 here is a link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He5xQOJHlrU&t=372s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He5xQOJHlrU&t=372s)Wesley
Look guys, "free energy" is b.s. and theres plenty OF free energy b.s. all over the internet.
Why? Because people can make $ or publicity from their b.s.
All of this distracts from why we have come here to work together on a solution.
Thermodynamics is b.s.
i have seen all of its laws subjected to exceptions.
Monopole magnets now exist. What did we once say about what a monopole magnet could do?
Or why they couldn't exist?
What is energy?
Where is energy?
where is there a place accessible to humans that is not being bombarded by countably infinite energy?
Why is energy NOT free?
This is what we are fighting for, not against each other,
But WITH each other to make the earth a better place.
Thank you all for being here and helping push our efforts in the right direction.
let us consider the moment a set of parallel high-tension power lines are fired up.
The inductance climbs so high the cables are forces away from one another.
Now consider a situation where those were constrained, and that circuit condition were maintained for a duration of time.
2200v, 60hz
Time = x
Now plot the I-curve over time x
He reposted the same bs i already addressed 🡇
Quote from: stivep on September 01, 2022, 03:26:27 PM
No it is you who has a problem .
the response to video "Free energy overunity Rubbish"-
was formulated here by me.
look at it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6uPHxQVEgQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6uPHxQVEgQ)
Part 1 EEV blog criticism creates protest of FE community
Wesley
No it's YOU who has a problem, you are even now contradicting yourself,
in this video you protest and make fun of him, at the same time you use
him/his forum to supposedly defame me. HA.
Your defamation attempts are pathetic.
Your list of lies grows and grows.
This is just another of your attempts to distract from the subject, in this case
Milkovic 2 stage pendulum......which you claim is not OU........
Why are you lying
Quote from: sm0ky2 on September 01, 2022, 05:07:07 PM
...
Monopole magnets now exist.
...
Where might I buy these? I'd like 5 norths and 2 souths.
bi
https://www.london-nano.com/research/magnetic-monopoles-discovered-lcn-scientists
Is this it? Spin Ice City. Wonder if they take Visa.
Seriously, what does the magnetic field look like? I think it might be premature to call the object (if it is an object) a magnet.
Hmmmm
Nix
You got more company ...
( although it is late on the other side of the pond ....
Edit for below
Nix
You need some real material!!
And definitely better measurement protocols!
Have a good night
And for clarity
Stop with other people's movies ,
You said "you" had 1000's
Just one will do !
Aren't you gonna beg for "just one simple gain mechanism"
You're "looking for it" aren't you. XD
EDIT for edit
I gave you real material but you did not even wanna open it :D
......how many times can you lift 74 lb
aka 33kg 5cm without aid, 5? 10?
......and how come grandpa can do it for
half an hour if he wants with HIS PINKY
and not get tired.......
"Better measurement" you say :D
Right, right........it's just "other people's movies" :D
Why should you even open it, what matters is
that you keep "looking" for "Just one"..... :D
Quote from: ne0 on September 01, 2022, 03:10:30 PM
Remember just one post ago he was trying to deceive you all into
believing energy in = energy out in Milkovic double oscillator
altho energy out is obviously AT LEAST 11-12 times bigger.
Why then no one self-powered this device?
Quote from: kolbacict on September 02, 2022, 02:22:23 AM
Why then no one self-powered this device?
Who said they didn't.... And does looping it matter when gain is so obvious.
Looping obviously is not that easy, at such low speeds you need a very low
speed generator to extract electricity efficiently to keep the pendulum going.
There are claims of looping it, this one for example claims it runs itself
and generates up to 2kW, and one in India also claims to be looped.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6UaQxAU-PI
Also demonstration with flashlights, these are quite hard to squeeze, input
energy is so low one on the left often does not even light up, while 18 on
the right are on all the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHln0xczRk8
And look at this beast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk3MABMLa0k
Quote from: ramset on September 01, 2022, 06:26:22 PM
You said "you" had 1000's
Look how he sleazily tries to twist my words as shills alway do,
i never said anything like that. I said there ARE thousands.
All i did is show the obvious gain mechanism which has been known
here for years.
Why are he and stipev still furiously fighting against it, tooth and nail,
trying to make you believe it's "
nothing OU" (ramset's words)....
I never wrote the intent towards most of your twisted snips
However I totally agree with "your " often written
"there are thousands of FE devices "
Are just part of movie industry proof ( videos)
This is why your topic is just a slanderous flame war topic
And not one proof of your own !
A self looped
War Zone
How many years the 1 pound in 12 pounds out
Miracle machine keeps booting to the top of page here?
Most here could cobble a 100 pounds in 1200 pounds out device ?
Yet it won't even run itself ( in perpetuity)never mind the obvious
Applications ..for instance a friction disc to heat the home ( cook ?
Or boil water ?
Or obvious power generator !
Here a similar utilization of industry applications
And where the energy is actually manifested
( thanks to Jimboot for sharing)
https://insideevs.com/news/361095/edumper-largest-ev-world/ (https://insideevs.com/news/361095/edumper-largest-ev-world/)
So you do "not"have just one ?
Of your own bench devices ?
8 years of fights and you will also sit in the dark or freeze when the games begin!
Stop chasing movie theaters
And do something to keep us warm
Or ??
Enuff
That took a long time !!
Although honestly I do believe you might have written this before in cryptic..
Of course, just more of same sleazy projections, distractions, lies, bs.....
You wrote them all, i am quoting you >>literally<<
unlike you who twist my words and lie all the time.
In vain are your accusations everyone sees it is you doing
the "slandering, flaming, warring".....
See how he again tries to inject doubt into people's minds
calling it "movie industry proof"
How he lies it won't even run itself as if he knows it won't,
yet we see claims that it does, and looping in this case is
not necessary since gain is so unquestionable.
Let's remember
You called Milkovic 2-stage oscillator "nothing OU"
it's memorized for all to see for as long as this forum exists.
Since you claim it's "nothing OU", just tell me..........
......how many times can you lift 74 lb
aka 33kg 2 inches aka 5cm without aid, 5? 10?
......and how come grandpa can do it for
half an hour if he wants with HIS PINKY
and not get tired.......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC6Qlj1Mbo8
Of course he will yet again continue with same accusations
that i am "fighting/flaming" him calling it "movies" bla bla
and will not answer how is grandpa doing it if it's "not OU"......
He runs away from this one like devil from the cross.
And again he repeats the same bs that "i don't have one"
WHO CARES if i made one, grandpa made it for all of us to see
to appreciate and to study as did others but his example is
more than enough.
8 years of building, unlike you who built nothing, for how long,
15+ years you been here fighting against the truth, deceiving,
misleading people, calling honest good inventors "frauds".
When the games begin i will be scanning you from the orbit, warm
and cozy, while you will still be freezing and "looking" for "just one".
Stop denying the undeniable, admit the TRUTH and start building.
Enough of the silly act, stop recycling the same bs
I think I know how to make a perpetual motion machine.
If you make such an apparatus that will convert human anger and hatred into useful energy.
The issue will be resolved. This source on earth is inexhaustible. :)
I am working for Milcovich'two stage pendulum for a few years.
untill didn't get make it selfrunning. :(
However for this time was born many new myself own ideas.
The truth is that no one needs it. :(
People are busy hating each other. :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6pHcgtK5Os
Too bad you failed to loop it, it's easy to mess things up,
everything has to be right, weight ratio, lever ratio etc.
However principle is undeniably OU and looping it is not really important.
If anyone can lift 33kg 5cm and drop it every second for half an hour
i'll be more than happy to admit video above is not an OU device.
I'm not hating on anyone, but i also don't like lies that it's not OU. :)
Quote from: ne0 on September 01, 2022, 05:54:14 PM
You claim Milkovic 2-stage oscillator is not OU and now you try to distract from
the subject with this EEV .
Archimedes "Give me a place to stand,""and I will move the world."
Explanation of Seesaw with momentum is here:
Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL (https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg570374/#msg570374) «
Reply #735 on: September 01, 2022, 04:55:56 PM »
You are right that the system seems to have over unity , but do you know of any machine that shows it selfrunning and has been closing the loop ??
It seems it is really hard to make a closed Loop machine out of it, which runs itself...
Peter Salocher has shown it, that the Milkovic
Pendulum produces more output energy than input.
https://youtu.be/fEA6UPm_RZQ